OL - Soldier 1/6

[SyzygyD]

Time displacement...oh, so that's what Dr Venkman meant when he said not to cross the beams in the proton packs...

[tyjohnston87]

Thanks for the video. I love re-watching some old favorite TV programs.

[URIZHEY]

2:43 In the future, weapons are useless, thats why they almost give a hug to each other? Why the hell they dont shoot???

[ProfPA]

The link between "Soldier" and "Terminator" is obvious, and it doesn't concern only the story. Even the opening of the episode with the laser beams in the sky over a desolated land inspired James Cameron.

[OutsideofTime]

I think it's funny how Harlan Ellison accused James Cameron of stealing his material and yet he did the same thing himself. Look up Robert Heinlein's story "Orphans of the Sky" and the failed TV show "The Starlost". Ellison created "The Starlost" and wrote the pilot episode, and it's basically a complete rip off of "Orphans of the Sky". Ellison was an asshole and a hypocrite.

[OutsideofTime]

I think it's funny how Harlan Ellison accused James Cameron of stealing his material and yet he did the same thing himself. Look up Robert Heinlein's story "Orphans of the Sky" and the failed TV show "The Starlost". Ellison created "The Starlost" and wrote the pilot episode, and it's basically a complete rip off of "Orphans of the Sky". Ellison was an asshole and a hypocrite.

[psychicwhoosh]

Nothing goes better with the burned out wasteland of the post-apocalyptic future than the smooth flavor of Lucky Strikes.

[kntshrm]

Possibly they used a theremin or some instrument like it to get those strange musical effects.

[pollywogA1]

This was made in 1964 an era where if a child in class giggled got slapped right across the face (corporal punishment in school was outlawed in 1967) so the slight strugglings and yelling of Quarlo, mundane by today standards, was very extreme when this show was aired. I saw SOLDIER in 1964 when it first came out and was horrified by it.

[federalwarhawk]

@pollywogA1 Would Quarlo be considered a U.S citizen, or an illegal alien ?

[pollywogA1]

@federalwarhawk Quarlo would be classified as a Non-Resident Alien by U.S. code 26 U.S.C. 7701 (b) (1) (B).

[federalwarhawk]

@pollywogA1 The part were Quarlo drew a map of  where his planet was, and the position of the stars, would be unlikely, since he was breed ,only to fight. his leaders would not waste time teaching him this,since his only purpose is to kill the enemy and obey orders.

[pollywogA1]

@federalwarhawk At first I thought the exact same thing, except that all soldiers are taught map reading, navigation, and how to navigate at night using the stars. So I since the ideal soldier is not stupid, Quarlo would have a sound basis in celestial navigation as well as land navigation; including position of the planets in the solar system.

[upwards11]

@pollywogA1 I don't know about a child getting slapped in the face, but I do know that the public school I went to in the 50's used swatting, not slapping. Also, I was in high school in the 60's and swatting was still used up until 1969. I don't know when it was outlawed, but it was still going on after l967. Maybe each state was different?

[pollywogA1]

@upwards11 The public schools in Boston up to 1967 used to swat kids in the hand with a 'rattan cane' which we kids called the "Rathand". But in Junior High School teachers threw books across class at kids, gym teachers took them down to the basement and 'beat them', and kids got slapped. Some kids were real punks and deserved what they got, other kids were victimized (and traumatized for life).

[upwards11]

@pollywogA1 Wow! that is awful! In Texas it was so different. Bad kids got swatted, but it was also a time that when you got in trouble in school, you got in worse trouble at home!!

[jpsocalol]

He already has sued you

[mauldune]

love the music at 4:22 sounds so creepy but nice

[jayfunk360]

the short story had a better beginning the subway was a better place to put it

[nwo2cool]

This episode and the "Demon With A Glass Hand" was a inspiration to the Terminator movie. That's where James Cameron got his ideas from.

[GreendayMcrAidenMsi]

@nwo2cool he's such a liar saying he dreamt it when it blatantly is from this. you're right

[ELO1138]

He dreamt the image of the Terminator coming out of fire.

In this story there is no cyborg nor is it intentional to travel back in time. In this story it just sorta happens.

Directors often use classic movies / shows / images in their film as homages. Lucas' Star Wars was homage to Flash Gordon, Western films, Kurosawa films, adventure serials, and much more.

[RaptureFilmz]

Really ? No kidding thanks for the news!

[64bolts]

Did any of you people ever see the original night stalker with darren mcgavin or night gallery with rod serling? Those shows were right up there with OL

[invincibleironman3]

i think they were bringing "Night Stalker" back with rebooted movie... but the TV series tanked, so they didnt do it.

[RaptureFilmz]

Rent them if you can. Well worth it.

[invincibleironman3]

Yeah, I will. Lots of good stuff on DVD that didnt make it as series, one of which was Jericho. looking forward to checking it out.

[delsol2lowz]

the beginning reminds me of terminator 2 the electrical disturbance

[invincibleironman3]

yeah, see the connection, the electrical disturbance....

[southlondonpimp]

OMG....The Terminator future war is plain for all to see. but at least james cameron got ellison's work to a much wider audience than ellison could have. respect to both.

[JessSayin]

..and he got sued for it by Harlen Ellison. As part of the settlement Cameron had to put an homage to Ellison on all media released at the time; Laserdiscs, VHS, etc.

[invincibleironman3]

Yeah, it was just that Cameron was so assinine about it, and Ellison was as well...I dont know if the two ever met, but Cameron was probably like; "What does this a$#hole want?" He tried to get over on him, but Ellison isnt very sympathetic. He harrassed some woman on stage ... neither of them looked good during that entire deal - Ellison always resented the fact Star Trek did well, and his series, Star Lost didnt get picked up. He's may be interested in writing the next Star Trek film in 2012

[phillydisco]

I finally saw this episode on DVD. I read so much about how it mirrored Terminator, yet I don't see much similarity at all. Terminator was about a soldier sent from the future (not accidentally) to protect a woman in danger of being killed by robots from the future. The only similarity was future combatants ended up in present day. That's it. If they had used two women in a cat fight, people wouldn't draw comparisons.

This is more of a fish out of water story, and perhaps even deeper...

[phillydisco]

...it asks whether someone trained to kill can be rehabilitated and become a useful member of society. Since this was aired early in the Vietnam era conflict, I don't know if the writer intended for that analogy. Anyway, that's how I see it. If all you know is killing from a young age, is that all you will ever be good at doing? Can you be turned back into a caring, compassionate person or is it too late once that killing threshold has been surpassed?

[invincibleironman3]

Philly disco, that was the hole point of Ellison's story line ... the Vietnam war ..

[invincibleironman3]

yeah, what happened was Cameron borrowed both elements, and made the really dumb mistake of saying; "I ripped off a couple of Outer Limits episodes" - not knowing that some people who were devotees to Ellison followed up that in a Starlog Magazine...it were elements taken from it ... Ellison just wanted him to ask permission to use it before moving forward with it....

[straker2]

This is one of the best things I've ever seen anywhere ever. If this had been made into a series, kids all over the Western world would've been saying "I peep" and "don't be dumb-drum" in next to no time. What a superb creation is the soldier, what a great performance by the great Michael Ansara! And I'm pretty sure Ansara's character in the Lost in Space episode The Challenge was inspired by this ep (with Kurt Russell as his son!).

Ade

[dafrog491]

really? wow, i guess kurt russel was probably a fan of michael ansara, thus "Soldier". I also remember Kurt saying that he wanted to have a self lit cigarette for snake plisken, very much like Quarlo whether he knew it or not.

[straker2]

I never knew he said that, but it makes sense. Russell and Ansara were macho alien warriors in that Lost in Space ep, so it makes sense that he might've picked up on the idea.

[dafrog491]

His name should've been ; Quarlo the badass Chlobrigney

[nogginzinc]

9:10 Ghostbusters - the early years

[Jackalman99]

Has anyone noticed this Michael Asgary and Tim 0'conner starred in several of these ep's? And some Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea thingys too.

[vividwatch47]

@Jackalman99, Michael Ansara also was in the original feature film version of "Voyage Of The Bottom Of The Sea" (which also featured his then wife, Barbara Eden), but this was the only episode of "The Outer Limits" he appeared in, though Tim O'Connor (along with Robert Culp) appeared in both seasons of "The Outer Limits".

[Jackalman99]

There were only two seasons? That's sad I love these. I was watching Richard Bull in the Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, then You Tube recommended I watch him in Little House on tyhe Praree too.

[vividwatch47]

"The Outer Limits" could've lasted longer if A.B.C. didn't leave well enough alone, and kept it at its original Monday night slot.

The second season they decided to put it up against "The Jackie Gleason Show" on Saturday night, which infuriated the show's producer Joseph Stefano, who left, and the show got a new producer (Ben Brady). As a result, "The Outer Limits" was gone by January 1965.

[Jackalman99]

Too bad. It was a cool show. I knew there weren't many ep's though.

[invincibleironman3]

i still cant believe that guy got Barbara Eden. Boy, she was a looker in her day. Looked like a cat...and had a body, too!

[vividwatch47]

Ansara played the Blue Djinn on "I Dream Of Jeannie" and a friend of Tony Nelson's (whose name I can't remember).

[invincibleironman3]

Tony Nelson would be Larry Hagman. He was terrific, and I thought he was a tad underrated.

[vividwatch47]

Hagman had appeared in the World War 2 epic "In Harm's Way" only five months before "I Dream Of Jeannie" premiered.

[grapes1950]

Michael was (& is) an extremely attractive man.....

[ancalites]

anti-smoking campaigns appear to have failed in the distant future

[sisyphusorianus9787]

yet they haven't failed on that oh-so-smooth and rich tobacco-ey flavor that won't stop deliverin'! Just strike the butt, and watch it light up!

[genrail1]

He's probably smoking Chesterfields - "fewer coughs per pack" and "recommended by doctors all over America".

[mauldune]

@ancalites hahaha

[imchim]

Some pretty badass costumes they got.

[rumpelcolin]

Has it occurred to anyone that maybe Ellison saw Terminator, then wrote teleplays for Soldier and Demon with a Glass Hand, hopped into his time machine 'Litigator 1' went back to the 60's and sold the scripts to the outer limits. It seems so obvious... Shit, he'll probably sue me now.

[dafrog491]

Imagine that.

[sodbuster925]

micheal ansara was married to barbara eden lucky guy

[stmk0]

Such battle-hardened soldiers. They had time to take smoke-breaks! hah

[xxdonaldqxx]

Check his watch.I did not know radioshack made watches

[MasterOhSo]

Very remniscent of the movie with Kurt Russell of the same name...atleast the first one. Excellent storyline, one can feel the cold war fever and the fear of it.

[youngfart08]

youngfart08

a classic episode, harlan ellison at his best.

[tvTrequer]

Michael Ansara was a klingon villain in a Star Trek episode.

[dieguiguar]

thank you, very much for this

[ari1234a]

Is that coinsidence that there is a actor named Tim O Connor ??? Hmmmmmm mm

[zimmy2525]

Thanks for the upload of this classic series

[bentouttashapemumby]

He doesnt even look like arnold!

[spacepatrolman]

they should go back in time and kill the people that make television and rap records today.

[akira187d]

notice at the end of the first terminator "special acknowledgment to Harlan Ellison" (the guy who wrote this)

[spacepatrolman]

Harlan when a playgerism lawsuit he gets a piece of the terminator.

[PIGSICK1]

Ahh they dont make TV like this anymore

[EGPcinematographer]

Are you serious!? The writer of this episode thought The Terminator bit off this?

[liyon316]

It''s well-known in the sci-fi fanboy community that the only person with a bigger ego than James Cameron is Harlan Ellison.

Cameron had said in an interview that Soldier was one of his inspirations when he was coming up with The Terminator. Ellison heard about it and then sued him and the studio for all he could namely a credit at the end of the movie.

[liyon316]

Maybe the guy who created Flash Gordon should have sued George Lucas when he did Star Wars and so on to the infinity! It's pretty stupid all around. Just a case of battling egos.

[wookie72]

Star Wars in not nearly as close to Flash Gordon as this is to Teminator. Plus, Lucas wasn't dumb enough to say "I got the idea from an old Outer Limits," which Cameron supposedly did.

Ellison has a reputation as a hardass, but he's not that bad. He makes a good point that it was the acknowledgement, not the money.

[nigel101]

but hes proably not a milti millionaire like James is so if it was anyone youwould be pretty pissed off

[voidforpurpose]

"...where ignorant armies clash by night..."