There are lots of groups of terrorists. Some from the west, others from the east. Asian, white, hispanic, they come in all shapes and colors.
Terrorists basically want what they want. And get it through an extreme manner. Basically bullying to a higher level. The most well known of all are radical muslims
The 'radical muslims' are victims of media. After 9/11 uptil now, there were more kills by any other religious terroriststhan radical muslims. but for some reasons media shows more abt radical muslims.
A Terrorist is a terrorist nomatter whta religion, they should be dealt equally...and should be DIMINISHED
They should be diminished. But if you look at all these giant attacks, where do they seem to stem from. Also note as captainoawesome once said: "Peaceful muslims" are the minority, to a majority which are the radical/fanatics/extremists.
I don't know who captainawesome is . there are 1.4 billion muslims in the world. And mostly they are defending themselves. Israel palestine, India Pakistan, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq and recently Iran, not to talk about LEbenon.
population of Muslims only in these areas is almosthalf of the muslim population. if they would have attacked other nations first. you'd have seen different results and u gotta keep in mind that Pakistan and India are nuclear powers
do u know about Samjhotha express attacks by hindu fanatics?160 ppl burnt alive(muslims). Gujrat incident in india, 300 christians burnt alive by same hindu fanatics BJP.
no one talks about those incidents.
26/11 was done by BJP(a hindu extremist party) and its public. they were involved in those attacks. They haven't proven it otherwise. They were blaming Pakistan for that and yet after 10 months they are unable to prove it, coz its not done by Mus
BJP, Bharatia Janata party, these wre the hindus who were involved in destroying Babri mosque back in 90s.
The attackers in Mumbai Hotel killed the police investigators who were investigating the "SAMJOTHA EXPRESS BURNT ALIVE" case and were going to hand over the prooves that BJP did the killings. and guess what 26/11 happens and 3 police investigators at 3 different positions are BULLETED in head by TERRORISTS. Target killing.
all the attackers were wearing YELLOW BANDs and talking indian
Oh no no, the 2008 Mumbai attacks were indeed by islamic fanatics known as the Lashkar-e-Taiba. A fanatical group who of course knew how to speak indian to negotiate to their demands met. Also these men believe in ethnic cleansing and extinction of Jewish and Hindu. They also believe in an entirely Islamic controlled Asia as well as control over India.
They don't sound like heroes you make them out to be.
Dear Mr Dmasterman. I think u don't know, Indian and Pakistani language is the same/similar. But the way words are pronouned is different. So no matter how a person practices he's caught while talking. Same thing happened.
They were talking to each other in GUJRATI language which is spoken in BJP controlled area.The only terrorist caught was Ajmal Kasaab who was caught in nepal by indian army 3 years ago, got disappeared since then and suddenly came out from India. He has no links to pakistan
He indeed did have links to Pakistan and revealed it. In fact, the pakistani interior minister found out who funded them and had that guy (Javed Iqbal) arrested.
I agree with that totally agree...what aboutothers? don't they also have groups who kill people?
if yes,,then whta's the difference , why media is escillating MUSIM GROUPS,,,its u to think coz i know why!! the fear of a rising religion Islam everywhere in the world.
If "NO" , please educate me what religion which doesn't have a single group which kills. Thanks
with islam becoming the world's largest religion I think the focus on them would be large. I don't care for other religions either, But right now those are sleeping wolvse while the islamic ones are wolve scratching at the door
Can't agree anymore, you are right any religions which once is under the process of big has a big focus on it, just like christianity and they were under the pressure of 'crusades'.
Trust me, there is no threat to western world from Islamic FANATICS.
Western islamic population is increasing coz of 3 rasons ( i think)
1- increased number of Muslim immigrants
2-Straight forward simple teachings of Islam
3- Forced conversions(doesn't happen in west but in muslim populated countries, it do)
I think any fanatic (Even Islamics) are threats, because of fanaticism. Fanatics are can come in any form or any believe. There are some earth loving fanatics who harm others.
Anyway Even if it's not to the West, It would still be bad if they are harming anyway.
And still immigration will be a pain for any muslims. That want to go to the US
The last thing this guy is is a dumb f***, he is organized and informed he brings proof and good open argument to the room. Find contradictions to what he says and come back. Want truth whatever it is, and not comfortable false security beliefs.
what Dave says is his problem. Many people say like that so i'm not gonna say anything regarding that except that it's his own BLUNDERs.
1:59:00, You misunderstood again. Shabbir was trying to make a connection that none of the DISCIPLES were present at the time of Jesus's Alleged death. , so we can not confirm through bible that jesus actually died and his ressurrection would be hard to proof.
and regarding 2:10:27. he said benefit from both, no doubt abt that, but i don't think he said later
"so we can not confirm through bible that jesus actually died and his ressurrection would be hard to proof"
If there is one certainty in history ... the Romans back then knew death.
They were masters at killing, torture & what the body could withstand at its very limit. Even to checking a body if it were dead by thrusting a spear in the side. John 19:34 Blood & water gushed forth. Dead.
As Dave contends, there is NO witness in the quran & Shabir knows this whichs why he still uses the bible 2
crucifixion was meant to disgrace and insult people. So a person dying in less than 4 hours would be really an issue to raise eye brows.
and the one who wrote John 19:34, was he there at the moment? no certainly not. because the same gospel says, that disciples were scared and fled away(imagine fled from the master). so it's all story writing listened from others.
shabbir and I would use bible just to take good things, like the sermon of jesus on hte Mountain. no doubt abt good things in it
of course. It's whatever we like we can pick from any book. WOULD YOU PICK ANY OF THE VERSES FROM BIBLE WHICH ASK YOU TO KILL PEOPLE?
why and why not?
So it's true that whatever 'we' like we chose...
in case of Muhammad PBUH, he didn't copy anything from the Bible. If u think he copied show me a few verses which are similar to bible abt diety of jesus/crucifiction/ressurrection, or even God's attributes....
"crucifixion was meant to disgrace & insult people"
Of course, it was!
Why do u think Jesus was put into that particular situation?
The fact remains, in the quran there are no prophecies or witnesses in regards to Muhammed. Muhammed hadnt even performed a miracle that other prophets had done!
There were many prophecies that told of Jesus' upcoming death.
For the covenant with us to be good, blood(from Jesus) had to be spilt!
Hebrews 9:22 Without the shedding of blood there is NO forgiveness
what kind of prophecy is that?? disgusting i guess, blood??? doesn't blood mean violence? can u talk any thing other then violence? inspired by ur book i guess...
Who said Muhammad didn't perform any miracles? send me ur reference on what basis u said that. and tell me who SAID to you that Muhammad didn't have prophecies? Qu'ran talked abt future and prophecies became true. so i have many reasons to believe in my book...
'leave out the crucifixion'. There are no violent verses in Qu'ran when you understand them with the reference of context. So I don't agree that Muhamad has copied anything VIOLENT from the Bible. It's unique, Bible's violence within the reference and out of reference is violence.
Muhammad did perform Miracle, his biggest miracle is the book Qu'ran.
crucifiction did happen but it wasn't the Prophet Jesus PBUH on the cross. It was made to appear to the jews,
-Muhammed exposed to Christianity, Judaism & Paganism
-Muhammed 'chose' NOT to include verses of violence when he plagiarized the bible
-Shabir says that the quran is less violent than the bible. The crucifixion IS violent! Thus it is common sense to say that Muhammed chose NOT to include that in the quran!
-but the fact remains, that IF the quran is NOT as violent as the bible, why historically then, have Islam killed more people than christians? At least 30:7?
-there was no ARABIC Bible during the time of Muhammad, and Muhammad did not have knowledge about other languages,
-stick on one thing u r changing statements, first u said didn't copy from bible, then you said copied from bible and now you are again saying NOT,
-same as above
-Hitler stands alone the world's top killer as a christian with 6 million kills on his neck what to talk about crusades, so i doubt your ratio, well if 30 is to christians and 7 to Muslim, then i make sense
"there was no ARABIC Bible during the time of Muhammad"
True, no arabic bible then.
I have always maintained that Muhammed copied/plagiarized the bible. But somehow he seemed to have left out selected verses which Shabir thankfully noted. Shabir says he prefers the quran b/c it is less violent but to understand the quran better, he & other educated muslim scholars must go to the bible for further background information, making the bible the only original manuscript & quran its incomplete copy
So if there is no Arabic bible then!, then your all the argument becomes false, because Muhammad didn't know other languages like Greek.
And even then if we agree that Muhammad might have got knowledge from SPOKEN X_STIANs. Then you have to come up with the similarities with Qu'ran and Bible. And you won't see much.
"So if there is no Arabic bible then!, then ur all the argument becomes false, b/c Muhammad didn't know other languages like Greek."
We both know, Muhammed was illiterate. Muhammed, therefore spent his younger days listening to Christians & Judaists argue over their beliefs. While the arab pagans lived nearby w/their customs & traditions, which muslims today emulate.
Muhammed had his wife, Khadijah & her friend, Waraquah, write down his thoughts & storytellers over hundreds of yrs did the same
hahaha...look at your silly arguments. And now you have changed again. Now you agreed that Muhammad didn't COPY anything from BIBLE because you coudn't find similarities in Bible and QU'ran(apart from the message which is plagarised b Paul in ur N/T), message of Mosses and Message of Muhammad is the same.
And we totally agree that PEOPLE wrote for Muhammad, and the book which contains science,laws,way of life,guidness can not be written by an illeterate, it is Word of God.
"And we totally agree that PEOPLE wrote for Muhammad, & the book which contains science,laws,way of life,guidness can not be written by an illeterate, it is Word of God"
Bible has these as well but the quran has some' science' comments that are too silly to be taken seriously.
U trying to say that people who took 'notes' & 'memorized' Muhammeds HOLY utterances R better than Muhammed? IN that, Muhammed may have overreached himself in blasphemous rhetoric so they 'changed' his words? Whats real?
i think u don't understand Muslim point of view at all. We believe that Bible 'has' the word of God. But as it is written by MEN mostly so it has been changed and altered according to their own will.
and you know that's true as well, this is the reason catholics have 72 books, and protestants have 66, mormons 69. Anything WRITTEN and DIRECTED by 'man' would hvae these results.
ALl of the above claim to be Xtians and have their own WORD OF GOD.
i'm surprised that you are not using the 'false language' anymore. I guess you were inspired by Shabbir Ally, hehehe but that's a good sign, maybe Allah has shown you the way to respect other religions.
There is ONE Qu'ran in the whole world. You can go anywhere in the world and get a Qu'ran and you'll see that the Arabic Qu'ran is the same all over the world, 114 chapters in 30 volumes.6,666 verses. So it's not same with your case of Bible , which doesn't have original menuscripts at all. 72 books in Catholics and 66 in protestants, and they don't talk the same even abt the 'diety' of Jesus Christ. So certainly one of them is not a true religion or both.
"guess you were inspired by Shabbir Ally, hehehe but that's a good sign"
Thanks.
But heres ur problem.
Whoever copied the bible, Muhammed or whoever was inspired to do his own thing from' free will' & write differing verses & adding their own has damned his soul forever!
You & a billion muslims are complicit in this false religion of Islam because all of you, especially the first to copy the bible have violated Revelations 22:18-19!
As i already told ye, that we believe Qu'ran is the last revelation of God, Torah,Zaboor and Injeel contain word of God, But it is fabricated and altered and you see the proof by different versions of Bible and even within Christianity you have a lots of differences about Jesus himself.
So your claim that your book is word of God, i'll ask you WHICH ONE?
So God sent Muhamad to clarify the differences among even your religion. about Jesus's Christ's real status and things.
if for the sake of argument if we believe that 22:18 revelation is true, then I should see MUSLIMS or MUHAMMAD dying of PLAGUE, but it didn't happen. But a lot in London died of Plague, and England is a christian based state i guess. So those died who did alteration to the holy book i guess?
There is one HEAVEN i believe, what it contains WE'll know when we'll b there,
So you and I if went to heaven we will get the same thing, right? so no point of arguing on that....
so he still a 'loving' god? coz for me taking someone's tongue is not a sign of love, it's 'revenge' for a person talking about it.(assume that im christian for a while)
yeeh why not. deedat was spreading evil and lies about christianity, possibly representing satan, there for God defeated satan just as God defeated death by rising from the dead after being crucified
but a "loving' God would never do that, He loves the 'world' more than his son, He sacrificed his son for the sins of this world, so how can he still be so cruel???
hahaha deedat, you just go round and round and round but end up lost. i guess the quran taught you that. my christian GUY?? what are you talking about. i was looking at your coments and like my GUY were still waiting for you to answer but you can not. your a laugh. chill out Deedat, no need to copy a Liar!!
and BTW Deedat's questions are not answered yet. you belive jesus was a god and a man, so when at night he used to sleep , did he get a hard on???if not , why not? if yes,,,wow..who he was dreaming about ? Mary Magdalene?
I'll ask u more questions once i get the answer of this one!
deedats questions are not answered because he was a manupilator of the holy texts whos innapropriate monkey chants from his followers only encouraged him in his lies becayse he had to keep feeding them what they wanted to hear.God reveiling himself in a human body, please ive been there done it and i accept it. if you dont and dont understand it then i cant help you.
your picking up a verse luke 13:27 lol and muslims tell christians to read before and after a verse so not to take out of context
wow, 2 in 1, defending false religion Christianity...go ahead. Deedat was a great person who always spoke using Bible.
and the people who don't have concept of God like you try to avoid these questions. Because in the begining some people made a mistake and you have to follow them because of your blind faith, i feel pity on you guys.
and you have to come up with silly 'explanations' to PROVE your false religion...u throw stones at others while u urself sit in glass room...
you can feel what you like, what you think makes no difference. you see thats the point, Muslims are so up on giving judgement when its God who gives judgement but you see...by following Muhammad PBUH who also clearly laid judgement on people, you have it in your line to follow a man and copy what he did. Did Jesus have a hard on...quite the perversion! you can ask him. you will be pulling porn quotes out the bible soon. 'thowing stones while....'lol im telling you its deedat back from the dead
FORZAITALIA2...I'm sorry for asking you stupid question. You know whatever you say I'd have a proper dialogue with you without vulgarity. You know why? because you gave respect to my prophet. I really appreciate that. I don't know whether you did it on purpose or just unintentionally but it means to me a lot. Thanks a lot for that
your words are kind. keep teaching about Islam. muslims go about it the wrong way. forget deedat. you know shabir ally? he is Muslim scholar. listen to him...hes wonderful. he explains why HE things Islam is truthful and allows listeners to judge for themself but backing up his thoughts with credability. Shabir is a gentleman, you should listen to his debates.
Nazzam44 has all the videos of Shabbir Ally. And I have watched almost all. I deal differently with different people. The person i'm talking with at the moment is JEFEISDGUARD, look at his language, you can see from the history of the comments. I told him 3 times not to bring this issue here because I haven't accused any religion for Terrorism. but he didn't listen to me and kept on showing/expressing his bad language towards me. I thnk the best thing to be on common grounds and discuss them
"you have to follow them because of your blind faith, i feel pity on you guys"
Ahhh, my deluded cuz, please, please DO NOT feel pity for us christians, whY?
When we go to heaven our bodies will be like angels, but when you go to your Islamic heaven you will be in a family orgy forever! Remember, Muhammed had said you canT have sex w/mother or daughter, guess this means ur sister, aunts, nieces, cousins & grandmothers are ok, ehhh?
I canT imagine standing next to my male cousins 4ever, can you?
well,,,u'll be like FALLen ANGELS who came to earth and found earthly women very attractive had babies with them. so what are you talking about???
You keep on following BIBLICAL DAVID who had sex with his son's wife, keep on following BIBLICAL ABRAHAM who married to his SISTER from the same father.
coz 2Timothy 3:16 tells you to use every verse of bible for teaching/profitting/training and preaching purposes. Teach your kids about David/Abraham(biblical)
I can only give you one piece of advice, the original copy is better than the copy Muhammed made up for the billions going to that great family orgy in the sky.
I don't need to prove it you...you tell me, WOuld you have or not? if you won't have than hahhahha you'd be a hermaphrodite...and if you will have...then WHAT FOR???
hahaha...reader of Ezekiel 23 is accusing me of sex.reader of th book in which David incesting with his dauther in law is accusing me of SEX. The person who claims to be like an angel(fallen angel) is accusing me of sex, the person who reads the book in which Abraham is married to his SISTER is accusing me of SEX...hahahaha...can you come out of th BOX???i don't think so...
I asked you would you have DICK their or not? and what would FEMALS angels would have in your heaven, simple question,
"I asked you would you have DICK their or not? and what would FEMALS angels would have in your heaven, simple question"
You ask this after I answered you about males?
I have already answered this.
Ur a muslim. Proud of your 1400 yr old religion. Plagiarized no doubt, but you seem NOT to care, in fact, you are trying very hard to override the original copy that Muhammed used to create Islam.
Your allah, simply a rock w/3 daughters, from a hi-jacked pagans tradition & rituals
My dear when you started to use abusive language about my Prophet, then you didn't think that language was abusive? and i haven't disgraced anyone of yours YET. I have just asked the female angels in your heavens , would they have vagina or not???simple question. and why i'm asking because fallen angels when they came to earth they married to women, means they were very well equiped , so what about female angels???answer me please, i really want to know about christian heaven this view.thanks
The fallen angels are the demons that control the domain of earth. What proof do you have these married or had sex w/any human?
There isnT any?
You failed again, but of course are trying to make up things while ignoring how lascivious & concupiscent your 'holy' messeneger was as a pedophile. Your are risking your eternity for this murderer, liar, bigot & intimidator.
You have put all your eggs in one basket for the greatest conman in history
DoesnT fly. Sorry. Here, let me help explain it to you. When God 1st made man He didnT say this is my greatest invention, no, He loved us so much He called us His sons!
Thus we, humans, are simply God's sons, not His greatest invention!
There were NO FALLEN ANGELS.
The angels in heaven that were conned by Lucifer became demons on earth.
Men who were 1st created had extremely long life spans, b/c they were very healthy. The air was plentiful & that produced giants among men
But it is pretty easy to understand Islam at this point, your crazy hadiths say men in your Islamic heaven will have penis's one mile long!
Guess how wide your females vaginas will be?
Only in your Islamic heaven is SEX EMPHASIZED so well! Why?
B/c Muhammed had an infatuation w/SEX! Before death & after death, which is why he had sex w/dead woman! Islam is all about the giving great sex to men. ArenT you lucky to be born a man?
Yes, Islamic homosexuals would love ur Islamic heaven. While conning the Bedouins to join him(Muhammed), he noticed many were boy-lovers. He told them there will be beautiful Ghilman boys serving wine in your Islamic heaven. These boys will do other things if one does not prefer women.
Ahmadinejad once told the congregation at Columbia University there are NO gays in Iran. He was right. He hangs them all. Islam's hypocrisy rearing its ugly head again, ehhh?
so DO you have any problems in hanging of gays???Bible says clearly STONE THEM TO DEATH if a a man sleeps with another man....
oh yeah, our heaven is great...it's better to be in a heaven where people can actually enjoy have fun...unlike YOURS!!! where WOMEN would have dicks...oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dickless men and dickful women...ur biblical triune god need to learn Geometery o fBiology..hahahah
So you dont mind having sex with your grandmother, great grandmother, great great grandmother, great great great grandmother, great great great great grandmother, great great great great great grandmother & so on forever, ehhh?
Well, at least it will be a fun family reunion!
Lots to talk about!
But on the dignity side, wont it be embarrassing to see all your male cousins doing your mom? Or doing it next to you?
it shows how ignorant you are, so i'll keep your comments here and show it to others...hahaha...they should see how much "KNOWLEDGE' their christian(i don't know which jesus u follow,hahha)...
I'll follow abraham(biblical), david and jesus with mary magdalene, my dear...if they didn't have problems why should you ore i have problems???
good question,,,right?
so follow them...and live happily with your SISTER...how would your other brother feel???
"it shows how ignorant you are, so i'll keep your comments here and show it to others" Wheres ignorance, when its true? But good idea, show everyone! Ur hadiths, oops, Muhammed had said so! Cant count out the hadiths, after all, they're part of ur quran. Interesting that the same Jesus u speak of, ur quran praises Him! Same words quran uses, the bible does too! Al Haq = TRUTH Al Baeth = RESURRECTION Al Awal = FIRST Al Akher = LAST Al Malek = KING OF KINGS Al Hadi = GUIDE Al Nur = LIGHT
oh...the above things were said to ELIJAH as well in old testament...THe first, the LAst the King of Kings, the GUide, the LIght, the first one to be lifted in to heavens....
hahahaha...SO >>>>he's god too???
give me a break...jesus was a man just like you and me , who used ot dream 'mary magdalene' and maybe had WET DREAMS...did he or not??? if he didn't then he's not PERFECT MAN...if he did...hahahahathen congratulations...he was SEXIST as well...
John 1:14, yes he was made flesh like us, but other than that you cant prove he was a pervert like us, b/c He was w/o sin.
All sinned except Jesus.
Saying Jesus is NOT a perfect man is like saying Muhammed NEVER EVER tortured, murdered, raped, lied, is bigoted, intolerant, a kidnapper who ransomed, burned people alive, cut off peoples heads,etc.
Yup, Muhammed was quite a saint, ehhh?
Which's why Islam uses this man as an example of peace? Ha, ha, ha
Although you try to put down Jesus(from the bible) in a sexual way, He is , nevertheless, using you whether you like it or not.
Muhammed on the other hand, killed those who mocked him, which makes him narcissistic & introverted. Raped all of his female slaves, even the baby girls. & of course the common criminal, he kidnapped & ransomed for money.
I just asked you to show me the qualities of a 'perfect man' and put up a few questions. if a man doesn't have 'wet dreams' and doesn't get himself discharged properly we call him an 'ill' person. check the medical dictionary.
So jesus(biblical) had it or not? it's not about sex. it's about being 'perfect' or not 'perfect'...
did he have twice a month wet dreams or not? if not then he's not perfect, and if yes? who he was dreaming???hahaha
so that means HE DIDN'T HAVE SEX DREAMS and never got laid, and you call him a perfect man???
give me a break, he'd have gone to a gay bar and became a 'drag queen' if ur biblical jesus(which we think was the thomas who got hanged on the cross). was alive today...
because your GOD-MAN (hahahaa,,that's a very good terminology for your god) did play with a anal-vagina and his pussy-dick never got erected so he lived in a house of circular square dreaming about 'hot icecream"...God with E-D
ur god is the production of sex, what r u talking abt??? god having sex with mary and producing another god while the third one was on the 'watch' hahhahaha...
so if ur god didn't have sex with mary then how come your little god came out?
why ur god got circumsized? that means he had DICK but din't know how to use it...did ur god pee??? i don't think so..hahahahahe doesn't know how to use it
Now, that is a question for someone in grade school.
But then again, I should remember all of your relatives could've been suicide bombers & you never experienced an older person around you, ehhh? Living past 25 for you must be too old!
Have a great life! If you're lucky, while you're doing ur grandmother she just might be bisexual! What a show, ehhh?
oh shit!!! so even in YOUR churches they TEACH and SHOW you how wrinkly grandmothers are??? good...i'd love to join your church for that...to see your grandma's wrinkly ass....
did ur jesus(biblical) after circumcision had a shorter dick?
I never experienced an older person, coz i'm not a BIBLICAL WOMAN....hahaha...
and fuck your holyghost right in the arese, i think that'd be wrinkly? does it have an ass?
Ahh, my deluded anti-christian kuffir & infidel. In re: to ur eternity & possible salvation 4 the truth if u ever decide to leave Islam, will be put on notice.
B/c once you read this & say, believe & write what you wrote about the HOLY SPIRIT you will be lost 4ever!
shut the fuck up ...your religion is based on plagirization and stupidities...3 in one gods...god-man,,,holyghost(a pigeon)...more than a fairy tale ...i don't care abt ur fuckin' holyghost(it's not spirit, there is no fucking word in hebrew of spirit) it's SPOOK or GHOST....this shows how much you alter ur shitty things in translation...
who cares abt rev 22:18???or Matthew 12:31 who's authors aren't the people who you say...get a life..leave the pagan religion and follow the 1st commandment
"shut the fuck up, your religion is based on plagirization and stupidities" Hmmm, made u swear 1st, I see! But PLAGIARISM? Are u kidding me? You think Islam is ORIGINAL? You think Adam & Abraham considered themselves MUSLIMS? Now THAT IS STUPID! DoesnT matter, on your judgement day you will know & you will be forced on your knees wherever you are as will I when the name of Jesus is called out. Phillipians 2:10-11 U think Muhammed was a SAINT? Now THATS STUPID thinking. Uv been warned
hahaha...what were u doing since the begining? swearing my dear!!! and now you have problem with me?? fuck off and get a life from holyghost the pigeon the 3rd god of urs..hahahaha...
before asking me if i think ADAM AND ABRAHAM CONSIDERED THEMSELVES AS MUSLIMS...i ask you 'did jesus considered himself as a christian"? what was his religion? a JEW///ok, let's go back to the root, did MOSES considered himself as a JEW?
answer me these...thanks n kiss the ass of holgyghost from myside..hahahh
"i ask you 'did jesus considered himself as a christian"?
Nope! Jesus never considered himself christian.
Christians did. Jesus hated religions.
Moses was never a muslim.
If anything, back in those days, muslims were PAGANS! They worshipped 360 gods or more! They came by hundreds, if not, thousands of different names. Which is why Muhammed brought this whole scam of Islam together 1,400 yrs ago.
Islam then, is fairly new & NOT AS OLD AS YOU THINK IT IS!
F'words are the only part of SWEARING? Disgracing somebody's personal beliefs is also 'swearing' you started it. i"m just crossing my limits. so actually there is no difference, Thanks.
Stick to this one that Jesus was never christian but YOU ARE CHRISTIAN, so you are not following jesus's religion, u should follow his religion.
Mosses wasn't a JEW(u admitted),,,jews should follow his RELIGION...
we on the other hand follow Muhammad's because he was a Muslim...
I'm NOT a good christian just as ur NOT a good muslim.
Moses was NOT a muslim, PERIOD!
But u follow Muhammed until when?
When you cut off someones head?
Shoot them? Hang them? Could you actually burn someone alive? Could you kill your sisters in an honor killing? Even if the rape wasnT her fault? WouldnT you instead want to kill her rapist?
Islam always ends in death, as in the case of husband beheading wife at Bridges TV, 3 days ago.
you admitted you are not a good christian( i wonder where are good christians, hardly see one). thank you . about me being a NOT-GOOD-MUSLIM. I don't make you judge to do that.
moses was not a JEW as well. jesus was not a christian as well...what's ISLAM? submitting will to God's will. This is Islam. now check back your bible and tell me if jesus and moses didn't submit their will to God?
U r accusing me of doing all the things above. prove it that i do them. if u can't then stop bullshting
hmmm...What about RED ARMY in states? can i blame you for what they do? IRA, conflict b/w protestants and catholics? can i blame you for that? why don't/do you do that? there is nothing in teaching, that's why. but if people modify it for their personal use, of course they are wrong.
Abrahamic GOD didn't have son/sons...first commandmant,,my dear!!! first one...Allah/God(Allah is only the arabic name for God , check your chrisitian bibles in Arab)didn't beget nor get begotten...
ask your arabic christian friends and tell me 'what do they call go in their language'? there are 20 million arab christians in middle east...this is your homework. and then if the answer is ALLAH(which is the answer by the way)...then tell me do they also worship the god with three daughters????
You see here you have the misunderstanding. And which is obvious coz you have never consulted to any of the muslims(because of your hate spreading style).
there are two kinds of gods, one with upper case g, God. and one with lower case g 'gods'. so the one who's the creator of this universe, the cause of all the causes but himself is causeless, the uncreated one, is ALLAH(God) , and all others just like u mentioned are "ila". check ur arabic bible n u'll know the difference,
CONTD:- read the first commandment in arabic. which says in english,'Thou shall not have any gods before me".: "3لاَ يَكُنْ لَكَآلِهَةٌ أُخْرَى أَمَامِي .
the word used for other gods(with lower case in christian bible) "ILLA" the word used for ALmighty, ALLAH. So Allah is only a word for the TRUE GOD(whosoever he is).
only you have problems whether to call your god. A God, Elijah, manuel, jehovah,or whatever.
if your God's the true God, he's ALLAH, if jewish God's the true he's ALLAH.
so i repeat again whosoever is the TRUE GOD is ALLAH in arabic. so if you deny that then you are actually telling me that 20 million christians in middl
You are ignorant. For your kind information we worship only ONE TRUE GOD 'Allah".
Not the production of 3some god which you worship...now you are bashed because you didn't know the difference b/w Allah and Illa...hahahahahaha..ignorant piece of shit!!!
explain why you celeberate X-Mas on 25th of December. Was ur christ born on that day? no..pagan gods were born on that , so why you have issues on that?
This is the time to celebrate NOT ur 'allah' but Jesus & His 'gifts' of eternal bliss, happiness, peace, family, honesty, beauty & wholesomeness in spirit.
Guess the violence & Al Tekayya in Islam kind of takes away just about everything there, ehhh?
The only things associated w/Islam is violence, fear, death, bigotry, intolerance, lies & torture.
maybe th ignorant like you don't know. i tell you the meaning . Christ's Birthday.
was it 25th of december?
bullshit...it wasn't..he wasn't born on 25th of december and it wasn't even A.D O...
but u still celeberate it on that day. THat means you are following pagan gods birthdays and associate it with yours...now disprove it..you have all ur time
25th of december was the celeberation of 'birthday of the SUN". so in 330A.D they changed it to 'birthday of SON" and followed the old Roman Pagans tradition of Birthday..simple......becaue it's hard for the new converters to quit their habits for hundereds and thousands of years. so pagans were happy that they are still celeberating the birthday of SUN/SON...so using paganism to induce your beliefs is common in christianity.
You are trying very hard to convince yourself that Jesus is not a valid diety.
But at the same time you fail to convince me thru any type of argument that Muhammed was even a nice guy! Much less that your 'allah' was NOT simply more than a moon rock picked out by Muhammed amongst the 360 he destroyed.
You see how 'beautifully' you run away from the things which you don't have answers too. SIGN OF JONNAH, INCEST, SEX in BIBLE, And now running away from PAGAN FOLLOWERS ...
when you'll stop 'copying paste' from 'anti islam' websites and ask me a 'moral' question i'll definitely answer you. Because to every Anti Muslim website there is another Muslim website. And i'm very well prepared to not only defend my religion but also attack others when they forget that they have the same things in their religion. It's up to the people how they understand the things. I'll b judged by my actions after my death.
and again you ran away from the pagan worshiping of Sun of God
Yeah, It's nothing like Christianity. Barbarians during crusades killed millions of muslim. But they will remember the name of Tariq Bin Zayyad forever. And I guess the whole jealousy you have developed is because of the TRUTH in this video, That terrorism was actually started by your PROPHET Mosses from the Bible. I should have mentioned that in my video.
and yeah...when you fuck holyghost do ask ur god jesus the gay-man stay there to witness it
hahaha...nice cover to the barbarian acts of christians throughout the history. ...Hitler the great was a Roman Catholic church Believer, and guess what how many Jews did he exterminated? u tell me...so violence is there and big proofs i have given you.
and trust me, i have never even killed an ant in my whole life. and my religion doesn't support killing of innocent people."u killed one innocent u killed the whole generation, u save one and u save a generation(Holy Quran)
"so violence is there and big proofs i have given you[...]and trust me, i have never even killed an ant in my whole life. and my religion doesn't support killing of innocent people"
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them
2:191-2
War is ordained by allah, & all muslims must be Willing to fight, whether they like it or not
2:216
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.
4:89
If you refuse to fight, allah will inflict you with a painful doom
hahahaha...If i ask you to give me the context of these verses. I"m sure you won't be able to do it. Because these are copypaste production. So i won't ask you for the context of these verses.
But I'll ask you politely to produce me 2:190. Would you please quote the verse 2:190. As you have quoted 2:191-2.
And of course step by step i'll come down to 2:216, 4:89 and 9:39 of Noble Quran. Trust me I won't ask the explanation for the VIOLENCE and TERRORISM in Bible from you. Coz i know you'll say one thing,'Look at the context". So i'll show you the 'context' of above verses you quoted, and then come to your bible.
The point is the quran is full of doom& gloom for everybody. I have proven, nevertheless, your hypocrisy & the fact you will have no choice but to hate & kill me, b/c you'll be killed too by your bretheren & your 'allah'.
Also, as Satan hated Jews & Christians, so too are there many verses in ur Quran, on Jews & Christians! DoesnT mention Hindu, Buddhist, etc. Think about it.
Gabriel is Satan & Muhammed was seduced by this evil spirit. But for Satan, Muhammed was the perfect subject, ehhh?
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"
"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"
"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
Muhammed was peaceful when he was in the minority & had no help from any warrior pagan friends like the Bedouins. Things changed when Muhammed had help, then Islam became powerful, allahs eternal message changed. Islam could now "call people by the sword" that is, compel conversion & accordingly "verses of the sword" were conveniently revealed to the Prophet, verses that sanction & indeed command conversion of the Infidel by armed violence, which historically would be Islam's preferred method.
hahahah answerislam (.) com...you think i haven't been to this site? but it's ok, it's ur right to make your RELIGION better while putting the other in to bad impression, i'd request u to visit answering-christianity (.) com and see the real side of your religion...LOL!!! by the way i've gone through the website and the website owners are not even updating it anymore because they have been PAWNED by Muslims so hard that they can't find the way go out, Sam Shamoun!!hahahhhahaha
"Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush" (Sura 9.5). This "verse of the sword" not only abrogates 2.256, but also abrogates well over a hundred earlier verses that formerly taught peace and tolerance toward non-believers.
Even to family members, Muhammed wanted them to convert & some didnt feel like it, ehhh?
Where is the freedom in Islam now?
"Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him R ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Sura 48.29)
"May the hands of Abu Lahab [Mo's uncle, who refused to embrace Islam] perish! Nothing shall his wealth & gains avail him. He shall be burnt in a flaming fire & his wife, laden w/firewood, shall have a rope of fiber around her neck!" (Sura 111.1-5)
What is so NOBLE about abrogated verses & contradictions? Hypocrisy!
As I've stated, Satan like Muhammed hated Jews & Christians, isnt it funny how ONLY THESE TWO R found continually in ur Quran?
"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers." (Sura 5.51)
"If you do not go to war, He will punish you sternly, and will replace you by other men." (Sura 9.39)
Please find me a verse in Bible which allows christians to marry non christians? you can't find anything like this. Because christianity is only for christians...no one else, "those who don't accept me as a king , bring them in front of me and SLAUGHTER them,"
we are told to marry jews and christians so you above verse is an abrogation by Sam Shamoun(ur apostle), hahaha...we are told not to be an ALLY with jews and christinas, which is true,,as u can see in PALESTINE...christians n jews togeter
This is THE VERSE in the bible that ALL muslims think they have over christianity, but again, all muslims fail to understand the parable involved with this verse.
Dont know Sam or answerDOTcom. But thanx, i'll look them up.
YT has removed Luke 19:27 but have found the explanation bettern I can give out in a debate!
ht tp : / / w ww. muhammad tube. com / video / 2888 / OJSMOKE - destroy - Christianity - BY - ONE - VERSE
2:37 freudian slip...
SelectedHandfull 1 year ago
man, i apreciate ur video. end respect ur beliefs, but put it out faster.
zuj1984 2 years ago
There are lots of groups of terrorists. Some from the west, others from the east. Asian, white, hispanic, they come in all shapes and colors.
Terrorists basically want what they want. And get it through an extreme manner. Basically bullying to a higher level. The most well known of all are radical muslims
Dmasterman 2 years ago
The 'radical muslims' are victims of media. After 9/11 uptil now, there were more kills by any other religious terroriststhan radical muslims. but for some reasons media shows more abt radical muslims.
A Terrorist is a terrorist nomatter whta religion, they should be dealt equally...and should be DIMINISHED
sabeershah 2 years ago
They should be diminished. But if you look at all these giant attacks, where do they seem to stem from. Also note as captainoawesome once said: "Peaceful muslims" are the minority, to a majority which are the radical/fanatics/extremists.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
I don't know who captainawesome is . there are 1.4 billion muslims in the world. And mostly they are defending themselves. Israel palestine, India Pakistan, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq and recently Iran, not to talk about LEbenon.
population of Muslims only in these areas is almosthalf of the muslim population. if they would have attacked other nations first. you'd have seen different results and u gotta keep in mind that Pakistan and India are nuclear powers
sabeershah 2 years ago
one good example is that muslim attack on that hotel in India. I think it happened in 08
Dmasterman 2 years ago
on 26th of November, they call it 26/11.
do u know about Samjhotha express attacks by hindu fanatics?160 ppl burnt alive(muslims). Gujrat incident in india, 300 christians burnt alive by same hindu fanatics BJP.
no one talks about those incidents.
26/11 was done by BJP(a hindu extremist party) and its public. they were involved in those attacks. They haven't proven it otherwise. They were blaming Pakistan for that and yet after 10 months they are unable to prove it, coz its not done by Mus
sabeershah 2 years ago
So you're saying Hindus attacked that hotel?
Dmasterman 2 years ago
BJP, Bharatia Janata party, these wre the hindus who were involved in destroying Babri mosque back in 90s.
The attackers in Mumbai Hotel killed the police investigators who were investigating the "SAMJOTHA EXPRESS BURNT ALIVE" case and were going to hand over the prooves that BJP did the killings. and guess what 26/11 happens and 3 police investigators at 3 different positions are BULLETED in head by TERRORISTS. Target killing.
all the attackers were wearing YELLOW BANDs and talking indian
sabeershah 2 years ago
Oh no no, the 2008 Mumbai attacks were indeed by islamic fanatics known as the Lashkar-e-Taiba. A fanatical group who of course knew how to speak indian to negotiate to their demands met. Also these men believe in ethnic cleansing and extinction of Jewish and Hindu. They also believe in an entirely Islamic controlled Asia as well as control over India.
They don't sound like heroes you make them out to be.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Dear Mr Dmasterman. I think u don't know, Indian and Pakistani language is the same/similar. But the way words are pronouned is different. So no matter how a person practices he's caught while talking. Same thing happened.
They were talking to each other in GUJRATI language which is spoken in BJP controlled area.The only terrorist caught was Ajmal Kasaab who was caught in nepal by indian army 3 years ago, got disappeared since then and suddenly came out from India. He has no links to pakistan
sabeershah 2 years ago
He indeed did have links to Pakistan and revealed it. In fact, the pakistani interior minister found out who funded them and had that guy (Javed Iqbal) arrested.
So apparently Pakistan hates these guys too. :)
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Hindus are not circumsized but muslims are!!!
there were people arrested in Pakistan who claimed to have ties with 'lashkar0e0tayaaba" were NOT circumsized even.
So who were they? simply RAW agents working in pakistan.
So I have many reasons to believe that it wasn't a RELIGIOUS war rather it was a political war in which BJP was involved and it is involved.
They wanted to win the elections during that time and win the vote on declaring war against pakistan. But they failed and lost the elec
sabeershah 2 years ago
You're missing the point, you keep leaping away from the facts that there are muslim groups who kill people. Those are the facts.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
I agree with that totally agree...what aboutothers? don't they also have groups who kill people?
if yes,,then whta's the difference , why media is escillating MUSIM GROUPS,,,its u to think coz i know why!! the fear of a rising religion Islam everywhere in the world.
If "NO" , please educate me what religion which doesn't have a single group which kills. Thanks
sabeershah 2 years ago
with islam becoming the world's largest religion I think the focus on them would be large. I don't care for other religions either, But right now those are sleeping wolvse while the islamic ones are wolve scratching at the door
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Can't agree anymore, you are right any religions which once is under the process of big has a big focus on it, just like christianity and they were under the pressure of 'crusades'.
Trust me, there is no threat to western world from Islamic FANATICS.
Western islamic population is increasing coz of 3 rasons ( i think)
1- increased number of Muslim immigrants
2-Straight forward simple teachings of Islam
3- Forced conversions(doesn't happen in west but in muslim populated countries, it do)
sabeershah 2 years ago
I think any fanatic (Even Islamics) are threats, because of fanaticism. Fanatics are can come in any form or any believe. There are some earth loving fanatics who harm others.
Anyway Even if it's not to the West, It would still be bad if they are harming anyway.
And still immigration will be a pain for any muslims. That want to go to the US
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Besides, any group that believes in Ethnic cleansing, I do hope they get shot up and killed. They're no better than Hitler.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
there is only one god and mohammad was his messangerand jesus was his messanger. Jesus was a man not a god
muslim22630 2 years ago
Happy Ramadan to everyone> Wish everyone will learn the patience and love during this month. Allah O Akbar
sabeershah 2 years ago
are you part of em u dumb fuk
i dont like ur ugly face
stop spreadin ur fukin religion u fukin faggot
xBlaCkXSteElx6 2 years ago
YOUR WRONG AND ITS PRETTY COOL
susy2510 2 years ago
The last thing this guy is is a dumb f***, he is organized and informed he brings proof and good open argument to the room. Find contradictions to what he says and come back. Want truth whatever it is, and not comfortable false security beliefs.
Fantacyshroom 2 years ago
dude..no need to put ur 'last name' in *...let the people know it....
sabeershah 2 years ago
1- Sign of Jonnah,
2-Killings in Bible.(jafeisdguard agreed on that)
3-Incest in Bible,
4-Marry the rapist in Bible.
5-Xtianity is derived from a pagan religion(X_mas is the biggest example)
6-pedophilia profiles in bible
7-violence in bible
sabeershah 2 years ago
1:53:50 Dave did say Quran had no witnesses, no prophecies & quran was relying on Muhammeds inspired words from 'allah' alone
1:59:00 Shabir says on Jesus death, his disciples were his only witnesses
2:00:53 Dave said(ur right) 600 yrs after the event & no witnesses(referring to the quran)
2:10:27 Shabir admits muslims can benefit from both & that he & other muslim scholars use the bible to fill in the 'rest of the stories'.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
what Dave says is his problem. Many people say like that so i'm not gonna say anything regarding that except that it's his own BLUNDERs.
1:59:00, You misunderstood again. Shabbir was trying to make a connection that none of the DISCIPLES were present at the time of Jesus's Alleged death. , so we can not confirm through bible that jesus actually died and his ressurrection would be hard to proof.
and regarding 2:10:27. he said benefit from both, no doubt abt that, but i don't think he said later
sabeershah 2 years ago
"so we can not confirm through bible that jesus actually died and his ressurrection would be hard to proof"
If there is one certainty in history ... the Romans back then knew death.
They were masters at killing, torture & what the body could withstand at its very limit. Even to checking a body if it were dead by thrusting a spear in the side. John 19:34 Blood & water gushed forth. Dead.
As Dave contends, there is NO witness in the quran & Shabir knows this whichs why he still uses the bible 2
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
crucifixion was meant to disgrace and insult people. So a person dying in less than 4 hours would be really an issue to raise eye brows.
and the one who wrote John 19:34, was he there at the moment? no certainly not. because the same gospel says, that disciples were scared and fled away(imagine fled from the master). so it's all story writing listened from others.
shabbir and I would use bible just to take good things, like the sermon of jesus on hte Mountain. no doubt abt good things in it
sabeershah 2 years ago
"shabbir & I would use bible just to take good things, like the sermon of jesus on hte Mountain. no doubt abt good things in it "
Sabeershah, let's say ur in the hospital.
U dont know what's wrong & u ask the doctor whats wrong w/u.
The doctor doesnt want to hurt ur feelings & tells u 'the good things' about ur life or lies maybe.
Wouldnt this make u mad?
Wouldnt u rather have the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth?
So, u can make plans?
Cant just pick out what u want from the bible
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
of course. It's whatever we like we can pick from any book. WOULD YOU PICK ANY OF THE VERSES FROM BIBLE WHICH ASK YOU TO KILL PEOPLE?
why and why not?
So it's true that whatever 'we' like we chose...
in case of Muhammad PBUH, he didn't copy anything from the Bible. If u think he copied show me a few verses which are similar to bible abt diety of jesus/crucifiction/ressurrection, or even God's attributes....
Muhammad cleared the wrong concepts among Xtians
sabeershah 2 years ago
"crucifixion was meant to disgrace & insult people"
Of course, it was!
Why do u think Jesus was put into that particular situation?
The fact remains, in the quran there are no prophecies or witnesses in regards to Muhammed. Muhammed hadnt even performed a miracle that other prophets had done!
There were many prophecies that told of Jesus' upcoming death.
For the covenant with us to be good, blood(from Jesus) had to be spilt!
Hebrews 9:22 Without the shedding of blood there is NO forgiveness
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
what kind of prophecy is that?? disgusting i guess, blood??? doesn't blood mean violence? can u talk any thing other then violence? inspired by ur book i guess...
Who said Muhammad didn't perform any miracles? send me ur reference on what basis u said that. and tell me who SAID to you that Muhammad didn't have prophecies? Qu'ran talked abt future and prophecies became true. so i have many reasons to believe in my book...
YOU CAN'T CONVERT ME>>>hahahha
sabeershah 2 years ago
"what kind of prophecy is that? disgusting i guess, blood? doesn't blood mean violence?"
Hebrews 9:22 W/o the shedding of blood there is NO forgiveness
Matthew 26:28 This is my blood, sealing the new covenant. It is poured out to forgive the sins of the mulitudes
ht tp : / / w ww. faith freedom. org / Articles / sina / miracles _ of _ Mo. ht m
Did Muhammed perform any miracles? NO!
Think about it. Why wouldnT Muhammed copy all the violent verses & intentionally leave out the crucifixion?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
'leave out the crucifixion'. There are no violent verses in Qu'ran when you understand them with the reference of context. So I don't agree that Muhamad has copied anything VIOLENT from the Bible. It's unique, Bible's violence within the reference and out of reference is violence.
Muhammad did perform Miracle, his biggest miracle is the book Qu'ran.
crucifiction did happen but it wasn't the Prophet Jesus PBUH on the cross. It was made to appear to the jews,
that's why not in Qu'ran
sabeershah 2 years ago
-bible was written before quran
-Muhammed exposed to Christianity, Judaism & Paganism
-Muhammed 'chose' NOT to include verses of violence when he plagiarized the bible
-Shabir says that the quran is less violent than the bible. The crucifixion IS violent! Thus it is common sense to say that Muhammed chose NOT to include that in the quran!
-but the fact remains, that IF the quran is NOT as violent as the bible, why historically then, have Islam killed more people than christians? At least 30:7?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
-agreed
-there was no ARABIC Bible during the time of Muhammad, and Muhammad did not have knowledge about other languages,
-stick on one thing u r changing statements, first u said didn't copy from bible, then you said copied from bible and now you are again saying NOT,
-same as above
-Hitler stands alone the world's top killer as a christian with 6 million kills on his neck what to talk about crusades, so i doubt your ratio, well if 30 is to christians and 7 to Muslim, then i make sense
sabeershah 2 years ago
"there was no ARABIC Bible during the time of Muhammad"
True, no arabic bible then.
I have always maintained that Muhammed copied/plagiarized the bible. But somehow he seemed to have left out selected verses which Shabir thankfully noted. Shabir says he prefers the quran b/c it is less violent but to understand the quran better, he & other educated muslim scholars must go to the bible for further background information, making the bible the only original manuscript & quran its incomplete copy
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
So if there is no Arabic bible then!, then your all the argument becomes false, because Muhammad didn't know other languages like Greek.
And even then if we agree that Muhammad might have got knowledge from SPOKEN X_STIANs. Then you have to come up with the similarities with Qu'ran and Bible. And you won't see much.
Although the message is the same
sabeershah 2 years ago
"So if there is no Arabic bible then!, then ur all the argument becomes false, b/c Muhammad didn't know other languages like Greek."
We both know, Muhammed was illiterate. Muhammed, therefore spent his younger days listening to Christians & Judaists argue over their beliefs. While the arab pagans lived nearby w/their customs & traditions, which muslims today emulate.
Muhammed had his wife, Khadijah & her friend, Waraquah, write down his thoughts & storytellers over hundreds of yrs did the same
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
hahaha...look at your silly arguments. And now you have changed again. Now you agreed that Muhammad didn't COPY anything from BIBLE because you coudn't find similarities in Bible and QU'ran(apart from the message which is plagarised b Paul in ur N/T), message of Mosses and Message of Muhammad is the same.
And we totally agree that PEOPLE wrote for Muhammad, and the book which contains science,laws,way of life,guidness can not be written by an illeterate, it is Word of God.
sabeershah 2 years ago
"And we totally agree that PEOPLE wrote for Muhammad, & the book which contains science,laws,way of life,guidness can not be written by an illeterate, it is Word of God"
Bible has these as well but the quran has some' science' comments that are too silly to be taken seriously.
U trying to say that people who took 'notes' & 'memorized' Muhammeds HOLY utterances R better than Muhammed? IN that, Muhammed may have overreached himself in blasphemous rhetoric so they 'changed' his words? Whats real?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
i think u don't understand Muslim point of view at all. We believe that Bible 'has' the word of God. But as it is written by MEN mostly so it has been changed and altered according to their own will.
and you know that's true as well, this is the reason catholics have 72 books, and protestants have 66, mormons 69. Anything WRITTEN and DIRECTED by 'man' would hvae these results.
ALl of the above claim to be Xtians and have their own WORD OF GOD.
so i don't think you should follow that reglion.
sabeershah 2 years ago
"it is written by MEN mostly so it has been changed & altered according to their own will."
True. Written by men. Inspired by God.
There are, as you say, different number of books from various 'christian' religions. Each, funny enough, not believing in the other.
However ur argument against them, is the same 4 Islam & quran.
Muhammed, muslims contend, was inspired by 'gabriel'? Muhammed, a witness all to himself. Muhammed words written by 'men'
hundreds of years after his death? Who's will?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
i'm surprised that you are not using the 'false language' anymore. I guess you were inspired by Shabbir Ally, hehehe but that's a good sign, maybe Allah has shown you the way to respect other religions.
sabeershah 2 years ago
There is ONE Qu'ran in the whole world. You can go anywhere in the world and get a Qu'ran and you'll see that the Arabic Qu'ran is the same all over the world, 114 chapters in 30 volumes.6,666 verses. So it's not same with your case of Bible , which doesn't have original menuscripts at all. 72 books in Catholics and 66 in protestants, and they don't talk the same even abt the 'diety' of Jesus Christ. So certainly one of them is not a true religion or both.
Quran was written in MoHammaD's time
sabeershah 2 years ago
"guess you were inspired by Shabbir Ally, hehehe but that's a good sign"
Thanks.
But heres ur problem.
Whoever copied the bible, Muhammed or whoever was inspired to do his own thing from' free will' & write differing verses & adding their own has damned his soul forever!
You & a billion muslims are complicit in this false religion of Islam because all of you, especially the first to copy the bible have violated Revelations 22:18-19!
Thus u should realize theres NO 72 virgins.
Uv been conned
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
As i already told ye, that we believe Qu'ran is the last revelation of God, Torah,Zaboor and Injeel contain word of God, But it is fabricated and altered and you see the proof by different versions of Bible and even within Christianity you have a lots of differences about Jesus himself.
So your claim that your book is word of God, i'll ask you WHICH ONE?
So God sent Muhamad to clarify the differences among even your religion. about Jesus's Christ's real status and things.
That was th eneed
sabeershah 2 years ago
if for the sake of argument if we believe that 22:18 revelation is true, then I should see MUSLIMS or MUHAMMAD dying of PLAGUE, but it didn't happen. But a lot in London died of Plague, and England is a christian based state i guess. So those died who did alteration to the holy book i guess?
There is one HEAVEN i believe, what it contains WE'll know when we'll b there,
So you and I if went to heaven we will get the same thing, right? so no point of arguing on that....
sabeershah 2 years ago
your arguments r rly bad man...i wouldnt even subscribe for the entertainment.
ryanmail2004 3 years ago
i am asking yuuu eengleeesh speekers wat is this 1+1+1 = 1? wat is theeez lol. poor limited deedat. its no wonder God took away his tongue!
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
I didn't see this comment before ...so your God took his tongue away? is ur god still LOVING which you claim about all the time???
sabeershah 2 years ago
God took deedats tounge? yes indeed.
forzaitalia2 2 years ago
so he still a 'loving' god? coz for me taking someone's tongue is not a sign of love, it's 'revenge' for a person talking about it.(assume that im christian for a while)
sabeershah 2 years ago
yeeh why not. deedat was spreading evil and lies about christianity, possibly representing satan, there for God defeated satan just as God defeated death by rising from the dead after being crucified
forzaitalia2 2 years ago
So god is not loving, he loves those who love him, if somebody doesn't love him he's a gonner,,,
sabeershah 2 years ago
deedat wasnt a gonner. he just has his tongue taken from him
forzaitalia2 2 years ago
but a "loving' God would never do that, He loves the 'world' more than his son, He sacrificed his son for the sins of this world, so how can he still be so cruel???
sabeershah 2 years ago
"He sacrificed his son for the sins of this world, so how can he still be so cruel???"
Cruel? This was part of prophecy 4 the new covenant. Its NOT cruel, it was a necessity for blood to be spilt for our salvation, including urs.
Hebrews 9:18-28 Without shedding of blood
1 John 1:7 The blood cleanses us from sin
Matthew 26:28, "This is my blood, sealing the new covenant. It is poured out to forgive the sins of the mulitudes"
Jeremiah 31:33 This is the new contract I will make with them
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
u have no idea what we are talking about, so stick to your own thread, and this is a decent converstaion going on b/w me and this christian sister.
SO you don't poke your nose here
sabeershah 2 years ago
hahaha deedat, you just go round and round and round but end up lost. i guess the quran taught you that. my christian GUY?? what are you talking about. i was looking at your coments and like my GUY were still waiting for you to answer but you can not. your a laugh. chill out Deedat, no need to copy a Liar!!
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
and BTW Deedat's questions are not answered yet. you belive jesus was a god and a man, so when at night he used to sleep , did he get a hard on???if not , why not? if yes,,,wow..who he was dreaming about ? Mary Magdalene?
I'll ask u more questions once i get the answer of this one!
sabeershah 3 years ago
deedats questions are not answered because he was a manupilator of the holy texts whos innapropriate monkey chants from his followers only encouraged him in his lies becayse he had to keep feeding them what they wanted to hear.God reveiling himself in a human body, please ive been there done it and i accept it. if you dont and dont understand it then i cant help you.
your picking up a verse luke 13:27 lol and muslims tell christians to read before and after a verse so not to take out of context
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
wow, 2 in 1, defending false religion Christianity...go ahead. Deedat was a great person who always spoke using Bible.
and the people who don't have concept of God like you try to avoid these questions. Because in the begining some people made a mistake and you have to follow them because of your blind faith, i feel pity on you guys.
and you have to come up with silly 'explanations' to PROVE your false religion...u throw stones at others while u urself sit in glass room...
HARD ON!did he have?
sabeershah 3 years ago
you can feel what you like, what you think makes no difference. you see thats the point, Muslims are so up on giving judgement when its God who gives judgement but you see...by following Muhammad PBUH who also clearly laid judgement on people, you have it in your line to follow a man and copy what he did. Did Jesus have a hard on...quite the perversion! you can ask him. you will be pulling porn quotes out the bible soon. 'thowing stones while....'lol im telling you its deedat back from the dead
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
FORZAITALIA2...I'm sorry for asking you stupid question. You know whatever you say I'd have a proper dialogue with you without vulgarity. You know why? because you gave respect to my prophet. I really appreciate that. I don't know whether you did it on purpose or just unintentionally but it means to me a lot. Thanks a lot for that
sabeershah 3 years ago
your words are kind. keep teaching about Islam. muslims go about it the wrong way. forget deedat. you know shabir ally? he is Muslim scholar. listen to him...hes wonderful. he explains why HE things Islam is truthful and allows listeners to judge for themself but backing up his thoughts with credability. Shabir is a gentleman, you should listen to his debates.
forzaitalia2 3 years ago
Nazzam44 has all the videos of Shabbir Ally. And I have watched almost all. I deal differently with different people. The person i'm talking with at the moment is JEFEISDGUARD, look at his language, you can see from the history of the comments. I told him 3 times not to bring this issue here because I haven't accused any religion for Terrorism. but he didn't listen to me and kept on showing/expressing his bad language towards me. I thnk the best thing to be on common grounds and discuss them
sabeershah 3 years ago
"you have to follow them because of your blind faith, i feel pity on you guys"
Ahhh, my deluded cuz, please, please DO NOT feel pity for us christians, whY?
When we go to heaven our bodies will be like angels, but when you go to your Islamic heaven you will be in a family orgy forever! Remember, Muhammed had said you canT have sex w/mother or daughter, guess this means ur sister, aunts, nieces, cousins & grandmothers are ok, ehhh?
I canT imagine standing next to my male cousins 4ever, can you?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
well,,,u'll be like FALLen ANGELS who came to earth and found earthly women very attractive had babies with them. so what are you talking about???
You keep on following BIBLICAL DAVID who had sex with his son's wife, keep on following BIBLICAL ABRAHAM who married to his SISTER from the same father.
coz 2Timothy 3:16 tells you to use every verse of bible for teaching/profitting/training and preaching purposes. Teach your kids about David/Abraham(biblical)
sabeershah 3 years ago
"no the ones who casted devils on his name, the ones who performed many miracles on his name would be told to DEPART from him"
You still fail to understand this, donT you?
Try Matthew 7:20-23 & let's see if this helps.
I can only give you one piece of advice, the original copy is better than the copy Muhammed made up for the billions going to that great family orgy in the sky.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
ORIGINAL COPY???hahahahaha...It's just like your GOD-MAN...why you use this type of strange language which you have no way to explain???
like CIRCULAR SQUARE!!! woooosh...
copy??? hahaha...ok that makes sense, but original copy doesn't make sense...
and i'm sorry the vulgarity there,i think Muhammad did not want to copy that book.
sabeershah 3 years ago
"FALLen ANGELS who came to earth and found earthly women very attractive"
Uhhh, heaven WILL NOT BE ON EARTH.
So, how can anyone fall if GOD will NOT allow sin or diseases in heaven?
That's the difference, you expect there to be sin & lust in yours, we donT.
Heaven s/b pure clean & holy.
But that description does not fit your Islamic paradise. Sex fills Islam's daily life before death & after death.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
no you are not following me...when you say you 'd be in heaven in the form of angels, you still will have DICK and BALLS.
SO all your FEMALE christians would contain a DICK i guess...coz that's what meant by fallen angels, woh contained DICKS...
so what are you gonna do with your DICK there in heaven???
or imagine someone female from your christianity having a DICK//hahaha
sabeershah 3 years ago
"no you are not following me, when you say you 'd be in heaven in the form of angels, you still will have DICK and BALLS"
Prove it.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
I don't need to prove it you...you tell me, WOuld you have or not? if you won't have than hahhahha you'd be a hermaphrodite...and if you will have...then WHAT FOR???
sabeershah 3 years ago
Prove it to you?
Why are you still thinking like your religion, sex?
This is after death & beyond, what need has a body for human bodily functions?
Cant you think outside the box?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
hahaha...reader of Ezekiel 23 is accusing me of sex.reader of th book in which David incesting with his dauther in law is accusing me of SEX. The person who claims to be like an angel(fallen angel) is accusing me of sex, the person who reads the book in which Abraham is married to his SISTER is accusing me of SEX...hahahaha...can you come out of th BOX???i don't think so...
I asked you would you have DICK their or not? and what would FEMALS angels would have in your heaven, simple question,
sabeershah 3 years ago
"I asked you would you have DICK their or not? and what would FEMALS angels would have in your heaven, simple question"
You ask this after I answered you about males?
I have already answered this.
Ur a muslim. Proud of your 1400 yr old religion. Plagiarized no doubt, but you seem NOT to care, in fact, you are trying very hard to override the original copy that Muhammed used to create Islam.
Your allah, simply a rock w/3 daughters, from a hi-jacked pagans tradition & rituals
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
"what would FEMALS angels would have in your heaven"
Get off the drugs & think, have already answered this question.
Your language is becoming vulgar.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
My dear when you started to use abusive language about my Prophet, then you didn't think that language was abusive? and i haven't disgraced anyone of yours YET. I have just asked the female angels in your heavens , would they have vagina or not???simple question. and why i'm asking because fallen angels when they came to earth they married to women, means they were very well equiped , so what about female angels???answer me please, i really want to know about christian heaven this view.thanks
sabeershah 3 years ago
"and why i'm asking because fallen angels when they came to earth they married to women"
Your prophet, if alive today, would be in prison for 100 consecutive life sentences for murder. DoesnT deserve the time of day & s/b executed.
I've quoted your statement above & have answered it, yet you need more of the same?
HINT: "when they came to earth"
Are they still going to earth after death?
Yikes! Too simple, ehhh?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
don't talk to me in parables..talk straighforwardly? why are you hesitating in answering a simple question. now i give you options and chose one.
Fallen angels(according to my understanding) of course already had dicks that's why they married to women not to men.
so all angels in heavens will have dicks, what would happen to FEMALE ones going in to heaven? what would they have:-
Choice A: a dick implanted
Choice B: a vagine
Choice C; None of the above.
i made it easier for u, save your thanks
sabeershah 3 years ago
"Fallen angels(according to my understanding)"
The fallen angels are the demons that control the domain of earth. What proof do you have these married or had sex w/any human?
There isnT any?
You failed again, but of course are trying to make up things while ignoring how lascivious & concupiscent your 'holy' messeneger was as a pedophile. Your are risking your eternity for this murderer, liar, bigot & intimidator.
You have put all your eggs in one basket for the greatest conman in history
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Genisis 6:1-2...that's the proof, check the footnotes, FALLEN ANGELS...
here is the proof,,now live with it..and again you are running away from the question...
A, B or C...thanks
sabeershah 3 years ago
"Genisis 6:1-2"
DoesnT fly. Sorry. Here, let me help explain it to you. When God 1st made man He didnT say this is my greatest invention, no, He loved us so much He called us His sons!
Thus we, humans, are simply God's sons, not His greatest invention!
There were NO FALLEN ANGELS.
The angels in heaven that were conned by Lucifer became demons on earth.
Men who were 1st created had extremely long life spans, b/c they were very healthy. The air was plentiful & that produced giants among men
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
oh...got it...so who were the DAUGHTERS of MEN they married to??? aren't daughters, daughters of God? why this discrimination?
so the angels that were conned by lucifer became demons on earth...hmmm...so they had dicks, right?
hatetospreadhate 3 years ago
"oh ... got it"
Ha, ha, ha, I donT think so, ha, ha, ha
But it is pretty easy to understand Islam at this point, your crazy hadiths say men in your Islamic heaven will have penis's one mile long!
Guess how wide your females vaginas will be?
Only in your Islamic heaven is SEX EMPHASIZED so well! Why?
B/c Muhammed had an infatuation w/SEX! Before death & after death, which is why he had sex w/dead woman! Islam is all about the giving great sex to men. ArenT you lucky to be born a man?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
HAHAHAHA...imagine you'd love to go to MUSLIM's HEAVEN then...coz GAYS would love it....hahahaha
hatetospreadhate 3 years ago
"coz GAYS would love it"
Yes, Islamic homosexuals would love ur Islamic heaven. While conning the Bedouins to join him(Muhammed), he noticed many were boy-lovers. He told them there will be beautiful Ghilman boys serving wine in your Islamic heaven. These boys will do other things if one does not prefer women.
Ahmadinejad once told the congregation at Columbia University there are NO gays in Iran. He was right. He hangs them all. Islam's hypocrisy rearing its ugly head again, ehhh?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
so DO you have any problems in hanging of gays???Bible says clearly STONE THEM TO DEATH if a a man sleeps with another man....
oh yeah, our heaven is great...it's better to be in a heaven where people can actually enjoy have fun...unlike YOURS!!! where WOMEN would have dicks...oh my god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dickless men and dickful women...ur biblical triune god need to learn Geometery o fBiology..hahahah
sabeershah 3 years ago
"oh yeah, our heaven is great, it's better to be in a heaven where people can actually enjoy have fun"
There'll be NO need for sex unlike ur Islamic heaven.
On earth is & was strictly for procreation & for men's lascivious tendencies.
Ur women? Too bad. They were sex objects & to have babies. No enjoyment of sex, why uv female circumcision.
It is clear, ur eagerness in looking forward to sex wall ur grandmothers, sisters, cousins, nieces s/b FUN!
Gay? Abomination.
Muhammed hi-jacked this 2
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
I don't think so your heaven is great...
and regarding marrying cousins,,,well,,,you can't say any thing against it...because your abraham married his sister!!!
your david FUCKED his daughter in law!!!
and produced TWINS who were the grand grand parents of jesus christ according to Matthew's geneology of YOUR jesus...
so dude,,,go and get laid with ur daughter in law or your sister, beacase 2timothy 3:16 allows you to do taht..hahaha
sabeershah 3 years ago
"I don't think so your heaven is great ...
and regarding marrying cousins[...]because your abraham married his sister!!!
your david FUCKED his daughter in law!!!
and produced TWINS [...] according to Matthew's geneology of YOUR jesus"
Maybe so, but for shits & giggles, let's pretend it is true ok?
This all happened, ready(?), on earth!
A temporary situation! Not even worth a 2nd look!
BUT IN YOUR CASE?
You know, Islam's case? IT IS FOREVER!
You R going to a family orgy, when u die, FOREVER!
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
WHy pretend it's true??? IT is true..do you read your bible???
the person you are believing as your GOD is production of INCEST>.imagine god , a product of INCEST???hahahah...
and then two BASTARDS in the geneology of the perosn you WORSHIP??? oh my GOd!!!
God bless you guys on this blasphemous beliefs...
keep on doing that.. for ever!!! stay like HERMAPHRODITES...i';d chose my heaven which is the best...yahoO!!!!
u follow your bastard-incest- production god...good luck
sabeershah 3 years ago
"i';d chose my heaven which is the best"
So you dont mind having sex with your grandmother, great grandmother, great great grandmother, great great great grandmother, great great great great grandmother, great great great great great grandmother & so on forever, ehhh?
Well, at least it will be a fun family reunion!
Lots to talk about!
But on the dignity side, wont it be embarrassing to see all your male cousins doing your mom? Or doing it next to you?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
it shows how ignorant you are, so i'll keep your comments here and show it to others...hahaha...they should see how much "KNOWLEDGE' their christian(i don't know which jesus u follow,hahha)...
I'll follow abraham(biblical), david and jesus with mary magdalene, my dear...if they didn't have problems why should you ore i have problems???
good question,,,right?
so follow them...and live happily with your SISTER...how would your other brother feel???
sabeershah 3 years ago
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Bible says;
John 14:6 "I am the ... truth ... "
John 11:25-26 "I am the resurrection "
Isaiah 41:4 " I, the Lord, am the first; & with the last I am HE."
Revelation 22:13,16 "I am the Alpha & Omega, the first & last, the beginning & the end."
Revelation 17:14 " the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of Lord, King of Kings."
John 10:9 "I am the door(guide) "
John 8:12 "I am the light of the world. He who follows me shall not walk in darkness, but have the Light of life."
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
oh...the above things were said to ELIJAH as well in old testament...THe first, the LAst the King of Kings, the GUide, the LIght, the first one to be lifted in to heavens....
hahahaha...SO >>>>he's god too???
give me a break...jesus was a man just like you and me , who used ot dream 'mary magdalene' and maybe had WET DREAMS...did he or not??? if he didn't then he's not PERFECT MAN...if he did...hahahahathen congratulations...he was SEXIST as well...
or he might b GAY...ur biblical jesus
sabeershah 3 years ago
"jesus was a man just like you and me"
John 1:14, yes he was made flesh like us, but other than that you cant prove he was a pervert like us, b/c He was w/o sin.
All sinned except Jesus.
Saying Jesus is NOT a perfect man is like saying Muhammed NEVER EVER tortured, murdered, raped, lied, is bigoted, intolerant, a kidnapper who ransomed, burned people alive, cut off peoples heads,etc.
Yup, Muhammed was quite a saint, ehhh?
Which's why Islam uses this man as an example of peace? Ha, ha, ha
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
so jesus(biblical) never had a 'hard on"
so if he couldn't have a hard on, how can he rape?
he wasn't a 'perfect man' he was suffering from E-D...
that's why your biblical jesus is known as gay in atheist society...because he had 12 male disciples...hahahhahahahahahahaha
ur biblical jesus never got a chance to be like MOSSES and MUHAMMAD, that's why he's a little under confident.
But check the muslim Jesus,,the king of Kings, the prophet of Prophets. Great Man, and yeah, PERFECT ONE!!!
sabeershah 3 years ago
'hard on'? rape? E-D? gay?
Now, that is more like it!
Islam is all about sex!
See?
Even YOU comment on it every time we talk!
Although you try to put down Jesus(from the bible) in a sexual way, He is , nevertheless, using you whether you like it or not.
Muhammed on the other hand, killed those who mocked him, which makes him narcissistic & introverted. Raped all of his female slaves, even the baby girls. & of course the common criminal, he kidnapped & ransomed for money.
This is a prophet?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
turning around and around and around,,,
I just asked you to show me the qualities of a 'perfect man' and put up a few questions. if a man doesn't have 'wet dreams' and doesn't get himself discharged properly we call him an 'ill' person. check the medical dictionary.
So jesus(biblical) had it or not? it's not about sex. it's about being 'perfect' or not 'perfect'...
did he have twice a month wet dreams or not? if not then he's not perfect, and if yes? who he was dreaming???hahaha
sabeershah 3 years ago
"did he have twice a month wet dreams or not? if not then he's not perfect, and if yes? "
Just like a muslim male, thinking about sex, again.
Too bad u werent born female. To be used & discarded.
God used sex for procreation(1 Corinthians 6:12-20 ), ur using it for ur perverted answers.
In this, I can tell u that anything 'perfect' regarding sex is in your mind. Not Gods.
Roman 8:5-9 "carnally minded is death"
1 Corinthians 6:9,10 "neither fornicators ... shall inherent the Kingdom of God"
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
so that means HE DIDN'T HAVE SEX DREAMS and never got laid, and you call him a perfect man???
give me a break, he'd have gone to a gay bar and became a 'drag queen' if ur biblical jesus(which we think was the thomas who got hanged on the cross). was alive today...
because your GOD-MAN (hahahaa,,that's a very good terminology for your god) did play with a anal-vagina and his pussy-dick never got erected so he lived in a house of circular square dreaming about 'hot icecream"...God with E-D
sabeershah 3 years ago
"HE DIDN'T HAVE SEX DREAMS and never got laid"
Are you even getting any? It doesnt appear so.
You must be pretty hard up b/c that is all you ever talk about now.
Guess, your perfect example of a god is one that has sex a lot? Like Muhammed?
Where a man's penis is a mile long, in ur Islamic heaven?
Having orgies with family members alongside side all ur male relatives 4ever?
Guess if u get bored & need a different type of sex, there are always those beautiful Ghilman boys serving wine to DO!
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
beating around the bush again!!!...did ur god-man had SEX DREAMS or not??? simple question my dear...
YES or NO//// if not ,,why didn't u take him to the hispital for proper treatment???
and abt sex.......'what's the meaning of begotten son'? hahahaha..your god (according to ur bible) OVERSHADOWED marry and produced, jesus....
that's not sex???? fuck off,
tell me th meanig of "OVERSHADOW" and "BEGOTTEN"....shitthole ur god is having sex!!!how can u pretend abt TRUTH
sabeershah 3 years ago
"did ur god-man had SEX DREAMS or not?"
Sex is important, obviously to all muslims.
Muslim can rape women & arenT punished. Raped women? Killed. Fair, ehhh?
Only women go thru the female circumcision & honor killings. Only women marry at 6 yrs old.
Cant recall a boy getting married 6!
Sex 4 procreation. No use 4 sex in our heaven.
Muhammed made sure there'll be sex 4 u & ALL OF UR GRANDMOTHERS!
'Sabeershah', tell me, did u like ur grandmother? ArenT u glad she wonT be so wrinkly when u do her?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Question: Are Grandmas WRINKLY???
I didn't know that...How do you know that???
ur god is the production of sex, what r u talking abt??? god having sex with mary and producing another god while the third one was on the 'watch' hahhahaha...
so if ur god didn't have sex with mary then how come your little god came out?
why ur god got circumsized? that means he had DICK but din't know how to use it...did ur god pee??? i don't think so..hahahahahe doesn't know how to use it
sabeershah 2 years ago
"Question: Are Grandmas WRINKLY???
I didn't know that ... How do you know that???"
Now, that is a question for someone in grade school.
But then again, I should remember all of your relatives could've been suicide bombers & you never experienced an older person around you, ehhh? Living past 25 for you must be too old!
Have a great life! If you're lucky, while you're doing ur grandmother she just might be bisexual! What a show, ehhh?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
oh shit!!! so even in YOUR churches they TEACH and SHOW you how wrinkly grandmothers are??? good...i'd love to join your church for that...to see your grandma's wrinkly ass....
did ur jesus(biblical) after circumcision had a shorter dick?
I never experienced an older person, coz i'm not a BIBLICAL WOMAN....hahaha...
and fuck your holyghost right in the arese, i think that'd be wrinkly? does it have an ass?
sabeershah 2 years ago
"and fuck your hollyghost right in the arese"
Ahh, my deluded anti-christian kuffir & infidel. In re: to ur eternity & possible salvation 4 the truth if u ever decide to leave Islam, will be put on notice.
B/c once you read this & say, believe & write what you wrote about the HOLY SPIRIT you will be lost 4ever!
Matthew 12:31-32
You & all Islam will be judged on the deeds of Muhammed.
1,400 yrs ago, Muhammed plagiarized other religions besides christianity & the bible.
Violated Rev 22:18-19
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
shut the fuck up ...your religion is based on plagirization and stupidities...3 in one gods...god-man,,,holyghost(a pigeon)...more than a fairy tale ...i don't care abt ur fuckin' holyghost(it's not spirit, there is no fucking word in hebrew of spirit) it's SPOOK or GHOST....this shows how much you alter ur shitty things in translation...
who cares abt rev 22:18???or Matthew 12:31 who's authors aren't the people who you say...get a life..leave the pagan religion and follow the 1st commandment
sabeershah 2 years ago
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
hahaha...what were u doing since the begining? swearing my dear!!! and now you have problem with me?? fuck off and get a life from holyghost the pigeon the 3rd god of urs..hahahaha...
before asking me if i think ADAM AND ABRAHAM CONSIDERED THEMSELVES AS MUSLIMS...i ask you 'did jesus considered himself as a christian"? what was his religion? a JEW///ok, let's go back to the root, did MOSES considered himself as a JEW?
answer me these...thanks n kiss the ass of holgyghost from myside..hahahh
sabeershah 2 years ago
"i ask you 'did jesus considered himself as a christian"?
Nope! Jesus never considered himself christian.
Christians did. Jesus hated religions.
Moses was never a muslim.
If anything, back in those days, muslims were PAGANS! They worshipped 360 gods or more! They came by hundreds, if not, thousands of different names. Which is why Muhammed brought this whole scam of Islam together 1,400 yrs ago.
Islam then, is fairly new & NOT AS OLD AS YOU THINK IT IS!
BTW, prove I ever said the 'f-word' 1st!
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
F'words are the only part of SWEARING? Disgracing somebody's personal beliefs is also 'swearing' you started it. i"m just crossing my limits. so actually there is no difference, Thanks.
Stick to this one that Jesus was never christian but YOU ARE CHRISTIAN, so you are not following jesus's religion, u should follow his religion.
Mosses wasn't a JEW(u admitted),,,jews should follow his RELIGION...
we on the other hand follow Muhammad's because he was a Muslim...
SUBMIT WILL TO GOD
sabeershah 2 years ago
"so actually there is no difference"
There is a difference.
I'm NOT a good christian just as ur NOT a good muslim.
Moses was NOT a muslim, PERIOD!
But u follow Muhammed until when?
When you cut off someones head?
Shoot them? Hang them? Could you actually burn someone alive? Could you kill your sisters in an honor killing? Even if the rape wasnT her fault? WouldnT you instead want to kill her rapist?
Islam always ends in death, as in the case of husband beheading wife at Bridges TV, 3 days ago.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
you admitted you are not a good christian( i wonder where are good christians, hardly see one). thank you . about me being a NOT-GOOD-MUSLIM. I don't make you judge to do that.
moses was not a JEW as well. jesus was not a christian as well...what's ISLAM? submitting will to God's will. This is Islam. now check back your bible and tell me if jesus and moses didn't submit their will to God?
U r accusing me of doing all the things above. prove it that i do them. if u can't then stop bullshting
sabeershah 2 years ago
"U r accusing me of doing all the things above. prove it that i do them"
How can I prove that unless I know you?
What if you did, would you tell me the truth or use ur Al Tekayya, b/c in either case you have permission to lie, therefore ur word isnT credible.
Jesus submitted to the will of His Father & Moses did to the will of God NOT allah.
B/c as you said, allah didnt have any sons ... but did have three daughters, according to allahs pagan beginings!
Islam is a cafeteria-type religion.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
hmmm...What about RED ARMY in states? can i blame you for what they do? IRA, conflict b/w protestants and catholics? can i blame you for that? why don't/do you do that? there is nothing in teaching, that's why. but if people modify it for their personal use, of course they are wrong.
Abrahamic GOD didn't have son/sons...first commandmant,,my dear!!! first one...Allah/God(Allah is only the arabic name for God , check your chrisitian bibles in Arab)didn't beget nor get begotten...
sabeershah 2 years ago
"Allah/God(Allah is only the arabic name for God , check your chrisitian bibles in Arab)didn't beget nor get begotten"
Ilah, the general term for "god", became Al-Ilah, "The God", or Allaah, the "Supreme Being"
Muhammed had to destroy 360 gods at the K'aaba.
He chose one & said it was allah!
This pagan god HAD NO SONS BUT HAD THREE DAUGHTERS!
The Red Army doesnt have the tenets, as does Islam, to kill kuffirs.
Conflicts usually die down, but w/Islam is everlasting until all convert or die.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
ask your arabic christian friends and tell me 'what do they call go in their language'? there are 20 million arab christians in middle east...this is your homework. and then if the answer is ALLAH(which is the answer by the way)...then tell me do they also worship the god with three daughters????
sabeershah 2 years ago
Ok, then.
God is allah in arabic
Just like amigo is friend in spanish
India has over 300 million allahs, the world has millions of 'allahs' worshipped thru-out its history.
Muhammed happened to destroy 360 'allahs' the pagans were worshipping & settled on the moon god w/NO sons BUT three daughters!
Al-Lat ... mother goddess(like semiramis)
Al-Uzzah ... Venus (morning star)
Manat ... Good fortune or fate
Muhammed declared "allah" to be the only true god & himself as allah's prophet.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
You see here you have the misunderstanding. And which is obvious coz you have never consulted to any of the muslims(because of your hate spreading style).
there are two kinds of gods, one with upper case g, God. and one with lower case g 'gods'. so the one who's the creator of this universe, the cause of all the causes but himself is causeless, the uncreated one, is ALLAH(God) , and all others just like u mentioned are "ila". check ur arabic bible n u'll know the difference,
sabeershah 2 years ago
CONTD:- read the first commandment in arabic. which says in english,'Thou shall not have any gods before me".: "3لاَ يَكُنْ لَكَآلِهَةٌ أُخْرَى أَمَامِي .
sabeershah 2 years ago
the word used for other gods(with lower case in christian bible) "ILLA" the word used for ALmighty, ALLAH. So Allah is only a word for the TRUE GOD(whosoever he is).
only you have problems whether to call your god. A God, Elijah, manuel, jehovah,or whatever.
if your God's the true God, he's ALLAH, if jewish God's the true he's ALLAH.
so i repeat again whosoever is the TRUE GOD is ALLAH in arabic. so if you deny that then you are actually telling me that 20 million christians in middl
sabeershah 2 years ago
east are following a false God because they also call him Allah..
Thanks. any questions feel free to call me back...
sabeershah 2 years ago
"there are two kinds of gods, one with upper case g, God. and one with lower case g 'gods'"
Your god, allah, remains small case b/c it is part of the pagan gods of 360.
Muhammed chose the moon god as the GOD for his religion & yours.
There wasnt just one god, in regards to Islam.
Its beginnings were up to 360, now down to one.
Lets NOT forget where ur god came from or who ur worshipping.
But not to worry tho, Muhammed worshipped other gods(idols), besides ur 'allah'.
Ur free to do the same
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
You are ignorant. For your kind information we worship only ONE TRUE GOD 'Allah".
Not the production of 3some god which you worship...now you are bashed because you didn't know the difference b/w Allah and Illa...hahahahahaha..ignorant piece of shit!!!
sabeershah 2 years ago
explain why you celeberate X-Mas on 25th of December. Was ur christ born on that day? no..pagan gods were born on that , so why you have issues on that?
sabeershah 2 years ago
"now you are bashed"
Bashed or blocked?
How can I be ignorant when you worship a pagan god?
Muhammed is to blame for your ignorance, I merely am pointing out the truth.
Sorry, if your brain matter can NOT fully sift out the misconceptions of your cultish politcal religion of sex.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
so what's your opinion on X-Mas my dear...be quick,,i'm listening
sabeershah 2 years ago
It is NOT x-mas but Christmas.
This is the time to celebrate NOT ur 'allah' but Jesus & His 'gifts' of eternal bliss, happiness, peace, family, honesty, beauty & wholesomeness in spirit.
Guess the violence & Al Tekayya in Islam kind of takes away just about everything there, ehhh?
The only things associated w/Islam is violence, fear, death, bigotry, intolerance, lies & torture.
Muhammed's life mirrored these exact same traits!
Islam henceforth mimics Muhammed.
Save urself & get out!
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
"IT is NOT X-mas but CHRISTMAS"
i know but the short for Christmas is X-Mas.
what's the meaning of Christmas?
maybe th ignorant like you don't know. i tell you the meaning . Christ's Birthday.
was it 25th of december?
bullshit...it wasn't..he wasn't born on 25th of december and it wasn't even A.D O...
but u still celeberate it on that day. THat means you are following pagan gods birthdays and associate it with yours...now disprove it..you have all ur time
sabeershah 2 years ago
"he wasn't born on 25th of december"
Ohh, come now, is that all you have?
Who cares when Jesus was born as long as his birth is symbolized by His love, forgiveness, beauty & peace of spirit?
There were quite a few 'gods' that were supposedly born on Dec. 25th. Take your pick & this argument has been thrown at me before.
I give them this link below.
ht tp : / / br. you tube. com / watch? v = JMhkTBbgwwE
Say, what exactly do you think Muhammed symbolized?
Opposite of everything I've said?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
i guess my previous message didn't reach to you .
sabeershah 2 years ago
25th of december was the celeberation of 'birthday of the SUN". so in 330A.D they changed it to 'birthday of SON" and followed the old Roman Pagans tradition of Birthday..simple......becaue it's hard for the new converters to quit their habits for hundereds and thousands of years. so pagans were happy that they are still celeberating the birthday of SUN/SON...so using paganism to induce your beliefs is common in christianity.
tell me if your BISHOPS were wrong in doing that?
sabeershah 2 years ago
Your message was received loud & clear.
You are trying very hard to convince yourself that Jesus is not a valid diety.
But at the same time you fail to convince me thru any type of argument that Muhammed was even a nice guy! Much less that your 'allah' was NOT simply more than a moon rock picked out by Muhammed amongst the 360 he destroyed.
WHY?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
You see how 'beautifully' you run away from the things which you don't have answers too. SIGN OF JONNAH, INCEST, SEX in BIBLE, And now running away from PAGAN FOLLOWERS ...
sabeershah 2 years ago
Beautiful?
Ahhh, but you give me too much credit!
While I am like 'grasshopper' in the movie, "Shaolin", yo are my teacher!
You are the MASTER AT RUNNING AWAY FROM ISLAMIC COMMENTS!
Its been fun.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
when you'll stop 'copying paste' from 'anti islam' websites and ask me a 'moral' question i'll definitely answer you. Because to every Anti Muslim website there is another Muslim website. And i'm very well prepared to not only defend my religion but also attack others when they forget that they have the same things in their religion. It's up to the people how they understand the things. I'll b judged by my actions after my death.
and again you ran away from the pagan worshiping of Sun of God
sabeershah 2 years ago
"when you'll stop 'copying paste' from 'anti islam' websites & ask me a 'moral' question i'll definitely answer you"
It is virtually impossible to derive anything 'moral' from Islam.
This decadent, violent & death-only political cult of yours is the worst in the world.
In history, between Islam & Christianity, Islam has killed more people 30:7 than Christianity.
Why?
B/c ur holy pedophiling prophet demanded it lusted after it.
Islam to death is like bread to butter, it goes together that well.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
Yeah, It's nothing like Christianity. Barbarians during crusades killed millions of muslim. But they will remember the name of Tariq Bin Zayyad forever. And I guess the whole jealousy you have developed is because of the TRUTH in this video, That terrorism was actually started by your PROPHET Mosses from the Bible. I should have mentioned that in my video.
and yeah...when you fuck holyghost do ask ur god jesus the gay-man stay there to witness it
sabeershah 2 years ago
"when you fuck holyghost do ask ur god jesus the gay-man stay there to witness it "
I do feel sorry for you now. I warned you.
The difference between Islam & me is simple.
If I was in a heated debate with someone else over another religion, we would simply get frustrated with each other.
But if you & I were in the same room debating Islam & its decadence, violence & death ... wouldnT be too long before you would kill me, eventually.
Make fun of Muhammed & off goes ur head!
SMO of Islam
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
hahaha...nice cover to the barbarian acts of christians throughout the history. ...Hitler the great was a Roman Catholic church Believer, and guess what how many Jews did he exterminated? u tell me...so violence is there and big proofs i have given you.
and trust me, i have never even killed an ant in my whole life. and my religion doesn't support killing of innocent people."u killed one innocent u killed the whole generation, u save one and u save a generation(Holy Quran)
sabeershah 2 years ago
"so violence is there and big proofs i have given you[...]and trust me, i have never even killed an ant in my whole life. and my religion doesn't support killing of innocent people"
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them
2:191-2
War is ordained by allah, & all muslims must be Willing to fight, whether they like it or not
2:216
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.
4:89
If you refuse to fight, allah will inflict you with a painful doom
9:39
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
hahahaha...If i ask you to give me the context of these verses. I"m sure you won't be able to do it. Because these are copypaste production. So i won't ask you for the context of these verses.
But I'll ask you politely to produce me 2:190. Would you please quote the verse 2:190. As you have quoted 2:191-2.
Please quote 2:190. Thanks.
sabeershah 2 years ago
And of course step by step i'll come down to 2:216, 4:89 and 9:39 of Noble Quran. Trust me I won't ask the explanation for the VIOLENCE and TERRORISM in Bible from you. Coz i know you'll say one thing,'Look at the context". So i'll show you the 'context' of above verses you quoted, and then come to your bible.
So be ready!
sabeershah 2 years ago
The point is the quran is full of doom& gloom for everybody. I have proven, nevertheless, your hypocrisy & the fact you will have no choice but to hate & kill me, b/c you'll be killed too by your bretheren & your 'allah'.
Also, as Satan hated Jews & Christians, so too are there many verses in ur Quran, on Jews & Christians! DoesnT mention Hindu, Buddhist, etc. Think about it.
Gabriel is Satan & Muhammed was seduced by this evil spirit. But for Satan, Muhammed was the perfect subject, ehhh?
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
LOL@Hypocrite calling someone else a hyporcite.
That's why I asked you to send me the 2:190. But you can not. the only reason you can not, but it gives you the criteria of 2:191...
But i'll still explain because there are many people reading this. So that they should know your cheap tactics here, CUT PASTE theory.
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)"
sabeershah 2 years ago
"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"
"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"
sabeershah 2 years ago
"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"
sabeershah 2 years ago
"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"
"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"
sabeershah 2 years ago
Muhammed was peaceful when he was in the minority & had no help from any warrior pagan friends like the Bedouins. Things changed when Muhammed had help, then Islam became powerful, allahs eternal message changed. Islam could now "call people by the sword" that is, compel conversion & accordingly "verses of the sword" were conveniently revealed to the Prophet, verses that sanction & indeed command conversion of the Infidel by armed violence, which historically would be Islam's preferred method.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
hahahah answerislam (.) com...you think i haven't been to this site? but it's ok, it's ur right to make your RELIGION better while putting the other in to bad impression, i'd request u to visit answering-christianity (.) com and see the real side of your religion...LOL!!! by the way i've gone through the website and the website owners are not even updating it anymore because they have been PAWNED by Muslims so hard that they can't find the way go out, Sam Shamoun!!hahahhhahaha
sabeershah 2 years ago
"Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush" (Sura 9.5). This "verse of the sword" not only abrogates 2.256, but also abrogates well over a hundred earlier verses that formerly taught peace and tolerance toward non-believers.
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
did i mention Surah 2.256??? beforeo COPY PASTING , first examin that you've used that VERSE before...exposed!!!hahahhahahaha
sabeershah 2 years ago
Even to family members, Muhammed wanted them to convert & some didnt feel like it, ehhh?
Where is the freedom in Islam now?
"Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him R ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Sura 48.29)
"May the hands of Abu Lahab [Mo's uncle, who refused to embrace Islam] perish! Nothing shall his wealth & gains avail him. He shall be burnt in a flaming fire & his wife, laden w/firewood, shall have a rope of fiber around her neck!" (Sura 111.1-5)
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
What is so NOBLE about abrogated verses & contradictions? Hypocrisy!
As I've stated, Satan like Muhammed hated Jews & Christians, isnt it funny how ONLY THESE TWO R found continually in ur Quran?
"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers." (Sura 5.51)
"If you do not go to war, He will punish you sternly, and will replace you by other men." (Sura 9.39)
jefeisdguard 2 years ago
Please find me a verse in Bible which allows christians to marry non christians? you can't find anything like this. Because christianity is only for christians...no one else, "those who don't accept me as a king , bring them in front of me and SLAUGHTER them,"
we are told to marry jews and christians so you above verse is an abrogation by Sam Shamoun(ur apostle), hahaha...we are told not to be an ALLY with jews and christinas, which is true,,as u can see in PALESTINE...christians n jews togeter
sabeershah 2 years ago
"accept me as a king [...] SLAUGHTER them,"
This quote is from Luke 19:27
This is THE VERSE in the bible that ALL muslims think they have over christianity, but again, all muslims fail to understand the parable involved with this verse.
Dont know Sam or answerDOTcom. But thanx, i'll look them up.
YT has removed Luke 19:27 but have found the explanation bettern I can give out in a debate!
ht tp : / / w ww. muhammad tube. com / video / 2888 / OJSMOKE - destroy - Christianity - BY - ONE - VERSE
jefeisdguard 2 years ago