You only need to watch Brian Lara's comparison of these two bowlers to know who the better one is. I enjoy watching them both, and they are the two greatest that ever lived, but one tops the other :)
it doesnt matter that murali got more wickets. warne managed to get 708 wickets even with other major wicket takers in the aus team like mcgrath, brett lee, gillespie and stuart clarke where as murali had only vaas to compete with who was nothing special.
warne was more magical to watch. plus leg spins is harder to bowl compared to offies. thats why there are lots of part time offies, coz its easy to bowl, easy to spin the ball.
what warne did was amazing. but kudos to murali, he is a legend of the game.
@RoheeeeCricket "plus leg spins is harder to bowl compared to offies."
It's not that simple. IMHO, you are selling the art of off-spin short. Also let's not forget that finger-spinners, wrist-spinners and knuckle-spinners (carrom-bowlers like Mendis) are vastly different types of the off-spinners. It's a very broad umbrella, if you ask me, and I wouldn't compare it to something as specific as leg-spin. Both are great arts, in their own right.
@Imrankniazi i agree with you about both arts being great. unfortunately, the art of spin bowling as a whole has been disarmed into an ugly, defensive art by captains and coaches. the only hope right now is swann, whose flair and agresiveness has captivated me. my opinion however, is that off-spin bowling, whatever branch of it may be, is much easier to grasp than leg spin bowling. as you said, leg spin is a specific art. it requires a special knack. no such knack is needed to bowl off spin.
@RoheeeeCricket That's a fair assessment. Leg-spin is a more elusive art. A lot of blokes I know can turn the leg-spinner well, but getting good drift (with sufficient revs), zip and bounce off the pitch is rather rare. When someone can do it with Warnesque control, that is mind-boggling.
I am also not so sure if the wrist-spinning off-spinner or the carrom-ball is that easy to spot. Lance Gibbs had one that he used to bowl with one finger over the seam and it used to jump up awkwardly!
@Imrankniazi and thats why warne was so damn good, that drift into the right hander then the sharp spin away. that bite he got from the surface. its true, there are people who can rip a leggie, but to be consistent is very difficult. there are a few like that at my club. as i said, it requires a knack. you can bowl one great delivery, but it's usually a fluke until proven otherwise. you're right, it's difficult for batsman to pick it up. thats why those variation should be used sparingly.
murali is a chucker and controversial spinner..warne is the real master..face it man...wisden rated warne as one of the 5 cricketer's of the century..murali is good but i think at the end of the day..he is a chucker man ..many ppl feel so..i feel so too..ur comments r right no doubt..and in terms of off spin bowling..saqlain mushtaq is rated as the best off spiner in odi history.
Clean ur own ass before u finger on others mate...! Warne is a DRUG cheat. what do u say about that??? After he got caught he even lied to the court and disgustingly try to put the blame on his mum!
End of the day what matters is Warne paid his penalty (got banned for a year) & got cleared to play cricket afterwards & nobody make a fuss about it. Likewise Murali got tested for his bowling action & got cleared by ICC as legal. So why a big fuss about him?
listen up u thick head..u dont seem to understand my point..no wonder ur such a dumb ass..im talking about controversy related to bowling not anyones life outside the cricket pitch u dumb shit..warne has no such controversy..he is the best spinner ever..not murali..murali is a chucker eventhough he got cleared by the icc..the no of times murali got into trouble for his bowling is probably more than the hair u have on ur head u prick!!
listen up u stupid idiot...! Which world are u living in...? Neptune..! I thought so. In this world in most of the civilized countries " U are innocent until u found guilty". ICC did the checking & they decided Murali's action as legal. So as far as I am & people with some sort of intelligence are concerned thats end off to that topic. But dumb ass like u will keep on moaning about it. Because u are burning with jelousy. Even u know deep down Murali is the best ever. & Warne is a cheating twat.
thers nothing to be jealous about..intellgence is what u do NOT have..,warne maybe a drug addict or might even fuck ur mom tonight..but that does NOT say anything about his ability when he balls got it u fucker??
Hey u little pussy, guess Warne fucked ur mum & the unfortunate outcome was u little prick...! U sounds like a complete looser. Is that what u got from ur dada, u unfortunate piece of shitt.
U cannever see what my point is..listen up u mistake of nature..im saying warne's ability and skill are much better than murali..warne has more creativity..he invented his special deliveries..murali cheated and got his doosra which he chucks from pakistani gr8 saqlain mushtaq..murali and harbhajan both are copy cats..wisden rated saqlain mushtaq as the best spinner in ODI history..so go fish somewhere..murali chucks the ball...according to me.whoeve bends the elbow while bowling is a chucker
@ayaazcyclops okay then, McGrath, Waugh, Ponting, Hayden, Gilchrist etc. are all copy-cats - they copied the shots that previous batsmen played. GG son.
It was jst a suspect. Suspecting is not enough to accused a person. As I know ICC officially stated it is not illegal (after investigation ). Then after only idiots are allowed to say that Murali has a suspect action.
You can't say mastering in off spring is easier. Off spring was the easiest way for Murali and leg spring was the easiest way for Warne.
I think its unfair to say Murali is better than Warne as offspin is easier to master than legspin and besides Murali has a suspect bowling action. Warne is the best!
no hes not, warne got wickets against way better teams, murali got a lot of wickets against minnow teams, and warne never had a question mark over his action like murali, so for me, murali is the 2nd best spinner ever
the question was raised in Australia, and it was cleared by the ICC . Then the Aussies tried again..so it was always an oz issue bcoz he was better than Warne.
@123AsimKhan Warne is better then murali. Let me explain how:
1. Warne took 708 wickets playing with quality bowlers like mcgrath, lee, gillespie, stuart clarke where as murali was the only wicket taker in the whole sri lankan team, no disrespect to vaas.
2. murali played the majority of his cricket in the sub continent, a spinners paradise, where as warne played mostly in fast bowler friendly environments.
3. Batting and fielding. Murali couldnt hold a bat to save his life and could not catch a cold. Warne scored over 3000 runs and had a high score of 99, he also scored two first class centuries.
4. Warne mastered the art of leg spin, which is much much harder then off spin.
5. Suspension and injury. Warne had two big stints on the side line, all in this time murali was managing to take wickets
Sadly people like you never appreciate the art of good bowling. Frankly i'd like to see you throw & spin the ball bigger than Murali. I don't see that happening soon.
What a dope you look, England won the Ashes for the first time in 18 years, who was captain at the time hmm? Who brought England back to winning ways against the West Indies? Clue: The answer is the same to both questions.
Murali has been tested by various people in the scientific community. Even with a steel rod and pot on his arm, holding it in place, he could still spin the ball just as much, and also still do the Dooshra.
As for Vaughan being shit; anyone with a Test Average of 40+ can't be considered shit. Form is temporary, class is permanent. People were calling Gilchrist shit back in 2005, and Lara back in the early Millenium.
Michael Vaughan has not made a decent score in a while. He and Andrew Flintoff are a waste of space in the England team and should play county level before they come back to the Enland team. When was the last time Flintoff made a test 50 or an ODI 50
fair enough, flintoff hasnt got runs in a while, but his bowling is still good, which is his specialty, and vaughan, well we know he's a class player and will bounce back from some bad form
Seeing by the comments no one here has ever played cricket.That was a legal ball and thats out racist or non racist.Your right Vaughan was good but not now.
Worst thing anyone ever said was 'He doesnt throw, he cant straighten his arm' When clearly he can and does. Otherwise he would be walking round with bent arm 24/7. Complete chucker but who cares. He's good to watch. 0/99 was beautiful against the aussies.
Btw Warne bowling strauss > this ball (vaughn is shit)
Murali is a poor dude from a 3rd world country who has beaten all odds to become what he is, he has gone out of his way to do test after test on his own will to prove that he does not chuck. If you still think so, then your saying the uni of western australia and the ICC is covering up a huge conspiracy. Do you also believe that elvis is still alive?
How has chosen to cheat? By a deformity from birth? Do you discriminiate the handicapped where you live? NO this is what's unfair, ignorace from people like you.
There is sufficeint eveidence boy. Please use google before you talk like you know. Murali has a deformity from birth the info can be freely found even on cricinfo. YOU do your research.
can u not read? were u dropped on ur head as a baby? HE DOESNT CHEAT. His hand jerk is a FUCKING ISSLUSION. u stupid dipshit if u knew anything about how eyes view and process images, u wud understand, u redneck dipshit. go fuck ur mom u whore, and btw ur moms was the worst fuck i ever had
You only need to watch Brian Lara's comparison of these two bowlers to know who the better one is. I enjoy watching them both, and they are the two greatest that ever lived, but one tops the other :)
perrotthill 8 hours ago
it doesnt matter that murali got more wickets. warne managed to get 708 wickets even with other major wicket takers in the aus team like mcgrath, brett lee, gillespie and stuart clarke where as murali had only vaas to compete with who was nothing special.
giam333 3 months ago
Just 1 Dislike!!. Probably was by Michael Vaughan!!! :-P
anushanush 8 months ago
warne was more magical to watch. plus leg spins is harder to bowl compared to offies. thats why there are lots of part time offies, coz its easy to bowl, easy to spin the ball.
what warne did was amazing. but kudos to murali, he is a legend of the game.
RoheeeeCricket 9 months ago
@RoheeeeCricket "plus leg spins is harder to bowl compared to offies."
It's not that simple. IMHO, you are selling the art of off-spin short. Also let's not forget that finger-spinners, wrist-spinners and knuckle-spinners (carrom-bowlers like Mendis) are vastly different types of the off-spinners. It's a very broad umbrella, if you ask me, and I wouldn't compare it to something as specific as leg-spin. Both are great arts, in their own right.
Imrankniazi 9 months ago
@Imrankniazi i agree with you about both arts being great. unfortunately, the art of spin bowling as a whole has been disarmed into an ugly, defensive art by captains and coaches. the only hope right now is swann, whose flair and agresiveness has captivated me. my opinion however, is that off-spin bowling, whatever branch of it may be, is much easier to grasp than leg spin bowling. as you said, leg spin is a specific art. it requires a special knack. no such knack is needed to bowl off spin.
RoheeeeCricket 9 months ago
@RoheeeeCricket That's a fair assessment. Leg-spin is a more elusive art. A lot of blokes I know can turn the leg-spinner well, but getting good drift (with sufficient revs), zip and bounce off the pitch is rather rare. When someone can do it with Warnesque control, that is mind-boggling.
I am also not so sure if the wrist-spinning off-spinner or the carrom-ball is that easy to spot. Lance Gibbs had one that he used to bowl with one finger over the seam and it used to jump up awkwardly!
Imrankniazi 9 months ago
@Imrankniazi and thats why warne was so damn good, that drift into the right hander then the sharp spin away. that bite he got from the surface. its true, there are people who can rip a leggie, but to be consistent is very difficult. there are a few like that at my club. as i said, it requires a knack. you can bowl one great delivery, but it's usually a fluke until proven otherwise. you're right, it's difficult for batsman to pick it up. thats why those variation should be used sparingly.
RoheeeeCricket 9 months ago
Murali is far more better than Shane Warne.
In Test Cricket Murali has better Average, Strike rate, Economy rate, Best bowling per Innings (BBI), BBM.
Murali has taken more wickets, more 5 fors & 10 fors than warne after playing less number of matches.
In ODIs Murali's record is again better than Warne in all above bowling catogories by a mile.
So Y on earth people even considering Warne is as good or better than Murali???
Warne is a good spinner. But Murali is the greatest spinner of all.
mcdelive 2 years ago
murali is a chucker and controversial spinner..warne is the real master..face it man...wisden rated warne as one of the 5 cricketer's of the century..murali is good but i think at the end of the day..he is a chucker man ..many ppl feel so..i feel so too..ur comments r right no doubt..and in terms of off spin bowling..saqlain mushtaq is rated as the best off spiner in odi history.
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
Clean ur own ass before u finger on others mate...! Warne is a DRUG cheat. what do u say about that??? After he got caught he even lied to the court and disgustingly try to put the blame on his mum!
End of the day what matters is Warne paid his penalty (got banned for a year) & got cleared to play cricket afterwards & nobody make a fuss about it. Likewise Murali got tested for his bowling action & got cleared by ICC as legal. So why a big fuss about him?
Seems like Total ignorance and jelousy
mcdelive 2 years ago
your probobly right
SuperFreddyKruger1 2 years ago
listen up u thick head..u dont seem to understand my point..no wonder ur such a dumb ass..im talking about controversy related to bowling not anyones life outside the cricket pitch u dumb shit..warne has no such controversy..he is the best spinner ever..not murali..murali is a chucker eventhough he got cleared by the icc..the no of times murali got into trouble for his bowling is probably more than the hair u have on ur head u prick!!
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
listen up u stupid idiot...! Which world are u living in...? Neptune..! I thought so. In this world in most of the civilized countries " U are innocent until u found guilty". ICC did the checking & they decided Murali's action as legal. So as far as I am & people with some sort of intelligence are concerned thats end off to that topic. But dumb ass like u will keep on moaning about it. Because u are burning with jelousy. Even u know deep down Murali is the best ever. & Warne is a cheating twat.
mcdelive 2 years ago
thers nothing to be jealous about..intellgence is what u do NOT have..,warne maybe a drug addict or might even fuck ur mom tonight..but that does NOT say anything about his ability when he balls got it u fucker??
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
Hey u little pussy, guess Warne fucked ur mum & the unfortunate outcome was u little prick...! U sounds like a complete looser. Is that what u got from ur dada, u unfortunate piece of shitt.
mcdelive 2 years ago
u still do not see what my point is..something is wrong wid u..ur not trying to understand ..i pity u..lol!
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
@ayaazcyclops he seems to know better than ICC.
ura0001 1 year ago
U cannever see what my point is..listen up u mistake of nature..im saying warne's ability and skill are much better than murali..warne has more creativity..he invented his special deliveries..murali cheated and got his doosra which he chucks from pakistani gr8 saqlain mushtaq..murali and harbhajan both are copy cats..wisden rated saqlain mushtaq as the best spinner in ODI history..so go fish somewhere..murali chucks the ball...according to me.whoeve bends the elbow while bowling is a chucker
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
@ayaazcyclops okay then, McGrath, Waugh, Ponting, Hayden, Gilchrist etc. are all copy-cats - they copied the shots that previous batsmen played. GG son.
TheReadingStudent 10 months ago
which mean harbhajan,kyle mills,shoaib akhtar,sreeshanth,botha are all chuckers
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
this is better than the gatting ball (ball of the 20th century). This should simply be known as the ball of the 21st century - "the Vaughan Ball"
Hitemup007 2 years ago 4
It was jst a suspect. Suspecting is not enough to accused a person. As I know ICC officially stated it is not illegal (after investigation ). Then after only idiots are allowed to say that Murali has a suspect action.
You can't say mastering in off spring is easier. Off spring was the easiest way for Murali and leg spring was the easiest way for Warne.
tttoyotaaa 2 years ago
I think its unfair to say Murali is better than Warne as offspin is easier to master than legspin and besides Murali has a suspect bowling action. Warne is the best!
lovejahama 2 years ago
totally agree widu
ayaazcyclops 2 years ago
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LOL I played at the weekend, only scored like 2 was bowled third ball lol some fool recorded it !!!!!! at Cric-tUBE (.COM)
murilox 3 years ago
Gotta say, even as an England fan, that's immense turn.
Slater582 4 years ago 4
murali is better than warne,get over it people
123AsimKhan 4 years ago 5
no hes not, warne got wickets against way better teams, murali got a lot of wickets against minnow teams, and warne never had a question mark over his action like murali, so for me, murali is the 2nd best spinner ever
bushman6363 3 years ago
shane warne has hardly ever got turn like that! n hu cares whether warne gets wickets against bigger teams!
Teabag9 3 years ago
your name obviously is your hobby as well mate. go and look at shane warnes top eight deliveries if you want to see some real turn.
imrepohl 3 years ago
Ha ha, well said mate!
frobishero 3 years ago
the question was raised in Australia, and it was cleared by the ICC . Then the Aussies tried again..so it was always an oz issue bcoz he was better than Warne.
RUcreates 3 years ago 14
No! Only because aussies had the GUTS to stand and report this CHEAT! We only did this for the good of the game!
All other cricket nations were gutless and bowed down to political correctness!!!!!!!
YouCvnt 2 years ago
@123AsimKhan no he's not you fuckin' sri lankan .. BLACK GUY hahaaha
TheMaster26454 1 year ago
@TheMaster26454 Warne was a real son of a bitch who had a threesome in england.
DonAbhilash 10 months ago
@123AsimKhan Warne is better then murali. Let me explain how:
1. Warne took 708 wickets playing with quality bowlers like mcgrath, lee, gillespie, stuart clarke where as murali was the only wicket taker in the whole sri lankan team, no disrespect to vaas.
2. murali played the majority of his cricket in the sub continent, a spinners paradise, where as warne played mostly in fast bowler friendly environments.
giam333 3 months ago
@123AsimKhan
3. Batting and fielding. Murali couldnt hold a bat to save his life and could not catch a cold. Warne scored over 3000 runs and had a high score of 99, he also scored two first class centuries.
4. Warne mastered the art of leg spin, which is much much harder then off spin.
5. Suspension and injury. Warne had two big stints on the side line, all in this time murali was managing to take wickets
giam333 3 months ago
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murali is a chucker he is going to break the test wickets record but he is nowhere near as gd as warnie
lainey1991 4 years ago
Sadly people like you never appreciate the art of good bowling. Frankly i'd like to see you throw & spin the ball bigger than Murali. I don't see that happening soon.
RyanBachoo 4 years ago
badly mistimed by vaughan bad play from England captain.
lawro04 4 years ago 2
i think vaughn reads it! deffo
twilly0909 4 years ago
read Vaughan's biography, the guy is crazy, he actually believes he has what it takes to be captain of england. He's a dope
mcpduk 4 years ago
What a dope you look, England won the Ashes for the first time in 18 years, who was captain at the time hmm? Who brought England back to winning ways against the West Indies? Clue: The answer is the same to both questions.
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago
He's a fecking waste of inconsistent space
mcpduk 4 years ago
Keep this line of arguement up if you want, but most cricket fans know better =)
AlonsoLegend 4 years ago
Murali has been tested by various people in the scientific community. Even with a steel rod and pot on his arm, holding it in place, he could still spin the ball just as much, and also still do the Dooshra.
As for Vaughan being shit; anyone with a Test Average of 40+ can't be considered shit. Form is temporary, class is permanent. People were calling Gilchrist shit back in 2005, and Lara back in the early Millenium.
shakeystephens 4 years ago 3
Michael Vaughan has not made a decent score in a while. He and Andrew Flintoff are a waste of space in the England team and should play county level before they come back to the Enland team. When was the last time Flintoff made a test 50 or an ODI 50
jambojumbo 4 years ago
The last time Flintoff made a test 50 was in his last test. Vaughan and Flintoff a 'waste of space'? Please. You've aptly described yourself though.
mymentor 4 years ago
fair enough, flintoff hasnt got runs in a while, but his bowling is still good, which is his specialty, and vaughan, well we know he's a class player and will bounce back from some bad form
bushman6363 3 years ago
Seeing by the comments no one here has ever played cricket.That was a legal ball and thats out racist or non racist.Your right Vaughan was good but not now.
SAMJE123456 4 years ago
thnx for the video! Can u post any matches of this series??? thnx
harleengrewal89 4 years ago
Worst thing anyone ever said was 'He doesnt throw, he cant straighten his arm' When clearly he can and does. Otherwise he would be walking round with bent arm 24/7. Complete chucker but who cares. He's good to watch. 0/99 was beautiful against the aussies.
Btw Warne bowling strauss > this ball (vaughn is shit)
ghaliboy 4 years ago
the whiteman cant stand to see themselves outclass.
chadsexinton 4 years ago
Why do non-whites always have to bring race into everything?
Anybody that calls themself Chad Sexinton really shouldn't do anything other than go and live in a hole.
virtuoushappydays 4 years ago
Surely Murali is the greatest chucker of the modern era.His throwing is always reaching new levels.He just throws it like noone else.
Teeranch 4 years ago
The ICC changed the rules so this guy could keep playing, he's a nice person and all, but his chucking should have been banned years ago.
dejardnich 4 years ago
stfu
totumdependeate 4 years ago
Murali is a poor dude from a 3rd world country who has beaten all odds to become what he is, he has gone out of his way to do test after test on his own will to prove that he does not chuck. If you still think so, then your saying the uni of western australia and the ICC is covering up a huge conspiracy. Do you also believe that elvis is still alive?
lankacricket 4 years ago
This is why Murali will never be considered one of the greats, unfortunate? yes, unfair? no - he has bought this on himself by choosing to cheat.
dejardnich 4 years ago
How has chosen to cheat? By a deformity from birth? Do you discriminiate the handicapped where you live? NO this is what's unfair, ignorace from people like you.
lankacricket 4 years ago
I don't think we can sufficiently call Murali "handicapped" as there is no evidence to support this, please get you facts right before posting.
dejardnich 4 years ago
There is sufficeint eveidence boy. Please use google before you talk like you know. Murali has a deformity from birth the info can be freely found even on cricinfo. YOU do your research.
lankacricket 4 years ago
hes already considered a living legend and ur opinion matters not
firoz85 4 years ago
can u not read? were u dropped on ur head as a baby? HE DOESNT CHEAT. His hand jerk is a FUCKING ISSLUSION. u stupid dipshit if u knew anything about how eyes view and process images, u wud understand, u redneck dipshit. go fuck ur mom u whore, and btw ur moms was the worst fuck i ever had
vegetto456 4 years ago
interesting point of view, thanks for sharing your life story.
dejardnich 4 years ago