Ignorance. Nobody ripped off black music. The music sung by slaves is as much a part of Americana as Yankee Doodle, Soldiers Joy, The Battle Hymn of the Republic, Dixie, Oh Susanna, Red River Valley, Rhapsody in Blue, Wake Up Little Suzie, and I Wish They All Could Be California Girls.
@martynspeck Your right with a main difference of the other songs being about America by free men, where as music sung by slaves was... by slaves taken against their will. Thats like if someone came and raped you, then took your voice and said it belongs to them. I'm not saying that taking black is exactly the same, but all I'm saying is that it would have been nice for them to acknowledged or dare I say even thanked them instead of just taking it and saying 'this is mine'.
@tigresuave11 How about saying, "This is ours." It's not about slavery. Nobody alive today was enslaved under the chattel slavery system of the antebellum south. We need to stop being black, or white, or mexican, or oriental, or native american, or whatever, and all be Americans.
@martynspeck Lol in a perfect world that would be awesome. Why don't we share wages, rights, and respect as well? I'd love it if some of the first words used to describe Obama wasn't "African American". We certainly didn't describe George Bush or any or the men in office by color. It would be awesome to just be accepted. For now, its kind of like being married to a gold digger, everything of mine is "ours." and everything that belongs to her is "hers". But I do look forward to that day :D
@tigresuave11 If we shared wages we really would be stealing.
Would it help if I said there is nothing in this world that I recognize as being the 'property' of whites, whatever that means? In your marriage analogy, there is nothing I consider mine. Actually, as I think about it that simple thought goes a long way towards domestic tranquility in both our families as well as our political lives.
@martynspeck I think you know what I mean about sharing wages.
I don't know you and you didn't do anything to me. I was simply stating a known fact. American history is American and I find it amusing that is the one thing people some people (not saying you in particular) refuse to own up to. If I may quote George Santayana "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
@tigresuave11 I actually don't know what you mean about sharing wages. I know what it means to me which is what prompted my statement.
Remember, but forgive.
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
@martynspeck Speaking of ignorance, nothing in America belongs to America, English, Slaves, even America itself, doesn't belong to Americans. Its funny how people just steal stuff and proudly claim it, and when someone ask for a little recognition, they're the "bad guy".
@tigresuave11 Can you 'own' a language? We have no slaves. I own my house. I didn't steal anything.
Also, who is being deprived the use of this song that you can say it has been stolen? Also, who ever said this song was not originally written by slaves?
@martynspeck I did not say you did anything. I'm saying that historically, nothing in America, is exclusively "American" and therefore I think some respect should be due to everyone. Not just to a select few. I know its a concept thats hard to understand unless that person is in that situation. I'm not saying you did something personally or expecting anything from you, I was simply stating something that you and I both know happened, or at least you should know.
@tigresuave11 We're the great melting pot. We need to remember that.
That is what is exclusively American and it's exactly what you highlighted too. That ability to bring together diverse cultures and make them one.
I'm afraid our current PC climate and emphasis on diversity hampers this by focusing on being diverse and not being one. e pluribus unum. Out of many, one.
it looks like nobody has pointed out how Garrison Keillor lifted the tune for his "rhubarb pie" commercials, not a big "copyright infringement" case, not in my book, so in this case, he's either payin' homage, or else surfin' on somebody else's coattails, u b da judge.
if only all folks, regardless of skin tone, would or could accept and appreciate what all people have brought to this country. even with the bad times, we never reflect on the greatness that came from it. we cant change that it happened but sans slavery, would we have blues? jazz? even in their pain 'colored' people gave us beauty. more people should appreciate that. just my two cents
@kenjdunbar 7 months ago... But these folks didn't borrow it, they did the exact same thing. Borrowing is like how Elvis borrowed from Chuck Berry. I don't really car for most rap but at least its not a direct copy, they just take a piece of the beat and loop it. I do see your point, its kind of like how jazz and blues were borrowed from black culture, right?
You just called Chinese "chinks" and I'm racist? All I'm saying is what happened. I didn't judge or call anyone out of their name unlike some racist people (you), I just said this is what happened. There is such a thing as black music, chinese music, ect, just like there is chinese, and black food, chinese and black culture, ect. Again, I'm not saying you can't use it, but you could at least acknowledge its roots instead of just taking it and saying its yours.
You may not not this but "Shortnin' Bread" was the basis for the Elvis song "Clambake" from the movie of the same title. The song was recorded February 23, 1967 in RCAs Studio B in Nashville.
On youtube you can find the movie which includes a heavily overdubbed version of "Clambake" which sounds nothing like the regular record - but you may get an idea of the song though.
WHAT ABOUT THE VERSION OF : THE READYMEN, THATS THE BEST OF ALL. TAPED IN THE SAME STUDIO AS SURFIN BIRD OF THE TRASHMEN !! YOU CAN QUESS THE SOUND OF READYMEN'S VERSION, TRY TO FIND IT,
YOU'LL AGREE, GREETINGS FROM RIP ED'S SKULL A TONES FROM ZWOLLYFORNIA (nl)
Best version ever recorded was by Uncle Omar and the Ablebodied Arabs, a group popular in Mobile, Alabama, just before WW2. It is very rare. Does anybody have a copy?
this song was written by Frank Roserfield and the New Dealers back in 1950. he sokld the song to Chang Ha Shjeik , famous Fromosa crooner. Chanmge sanf it at mao funeral in 1980.
MAMMY'S GONNA MAKE US SOME SHORTNiN' BREAD. AND THAT AIN'T ALL MAH MAMMY'S GONNA DO. SHE'S GONNA COOK US SOME COFFEE, TOO! GONNA MEHHH GONNA MEHHHHHHHYEAH.
the last time i herd this song it was 2001 at the end. i was viseting my Greandpa in Meadow Lake Canada 7 years B4 he died this song came on the radeo and his old radeo is from the '70's and it was turnd on at the time
I know that Burton Cummings was playing Paul Chaplain's when guesting on CKY Winnipeg around then. I don't suppose you heard that. He figured noone else plays that song.
Nelson Eddy did not sing this song in MAYTIME. He sang it on the Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Chase and Sanborn radio show in 1937/1938. Audiences loved Nelson`s charming rendition. Nelson recorded it and it became one of his trademark songs.Nelson sang a self-effacing rendition of this song as the voice of Willie The Operatic Whale in the 1946 Disney animated film 'Make Mine Music". Thanks for sharing with Us. I love this song and enjoyed this video. Lorraine
My Mother used to sing this song to me 70 years ago!
mloucks 6 months ago 2
Ignorance. Nobody ripped off black music. The music sung by slaves is as much a part of Americana as Yankee Doodle, Soldiers Joy, The Battle Hymn of the Republic, Dixie, Oh Susanna, Red River Valley, Rhapsody in Blue, Wake Up Little Suzie, and I Wish They All Could Be California Girls.
martynspeck 10 months ago
@martynspeck Your right with a main difference of the other songs being about America by free men, where as music sung by slaves was... by slaves taken against their will. Thats like if someone came and raped you, then took your voice and said it belongs to them. I'm not saying that taking black is exactly the same, but all I'm saying is that it would have been nice for them to acknowledged or dare I say even thanked them instead of just taking it and saying 'this is mine'.
tigresuave11 8 months ago
@tigresuave11 How about saying, "This is ours." It's not about slavery. Nobody alive today was enslaved under the chattel slavery system of the antebellum south. We need to stop being black, or white, or mexican, or oriental, or native american, or whatever, and all be Americans.
It's our music. It's part of our shared culture.
martynspeck 8 months ago
@martynspeck Lol in a perfect world that would be awesome. Why don't we share wages, rights, and respect as well? I'd love it if some of the first words used to describe Obama wasn't "African American". We certainly didn't describe George Bush or any or the men in office by color. It would be awesome to just be accepted. For now, its kind of like being married to a gold digger, everything of mine is "ours." and everything that belongs to her is "hers". But I do look forward to that day :D
tigresuave11 8 months ago
@tigresuave11 If we shared wages we really would be stealing.
Would it help if I said there is nothing in this world that I recognize as being the 'property' of whites, whatever that means? In your marriage analogy, there is nothing I consider mine. Actually, as I think about it that simple thought goes a long way towards domestic tranquility in both our families as well as our political lives.
martynspeck 8 months ago
@martynspeck I think you know what I mean about sharing wages.
I don't know you and you didn't do anything to me. I was simply stating a known fact. American history is American and I find it amusing that is the one thing people some people (not saying you in particular) refuse to own up to. If I may quote George Santayana "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
tigresuave11 8 months ago
@tigresuave11 I actually don't know what you mean about sharing wages. I know what it means to me which is what prompted my statement.
Remember, but forgive.
Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, “Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?” Jesus answered, “I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times.
martynspeck 8 months ago
@martynspeck Speaking of ignorance, nothing in America belongs to America, English, Slaves, even America itself, doesn't belong to Americans. Its funny how people just steal stuff and proudly claim it, and when someone ask for a little recognition, they're the "bad guy".
tigresuave11 8 months ago
@tigresuave11 Can you 'own' a language? We have no slaves. I own my house. I didn't steal anything.
Also, who is being deprived the use of this song that you can say it has been stolen? Also, who ever said this song was not originally written by slaves?
martynspeck 8 months ago
@martynspeck I did not say you did anything. I'm saying that historically, nothing in America, is exclusively "American" and therefore I think some respect should be due to everyone. Not just to a select few. I know its a concept thats hard to understand unless that person is in that situation. I'm not saying you did something personally or expecting anything from you, I was simply stating something that you and I both know happened, or at least you should know.
tigresuave11 8 months ago
@tigresuave11 We're the great melting pot. We need to remember that.
That is what is exclusively American and it's exactly what you highlighted too. That ability to bring together diverse cultures and make them one.
I'm afraid our current PC climate and emphasis on diversity hampers this by focusing on being diverse and not being one. e pluribus unum. Out of many, one.
martynspeck 8 months ago
Dowwnload the audio from this track at soundnabber doht cohm.
AllardFumerton69 1 year ago
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do you know kelly family cover? it is great!
flower87butterfly 1 year ago
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do you know kelly family cover? less jazzy, but great!
flower87butterfly 1 year ago
do you know kelly family cover? less jazzy, but greqt!
flower87butterfly 1 year ago
you forgot The Cramps! :)
IDidItSidsWay 1 year ago
This song was written by poor southern white people....contrary to popular belief. The poor white people had a house keeper named Mammy. ...
biskitlee 1 year ago 2
it looks like nobody has pointed out how Garrison Keillor lifted the tune for his "rhubarb pie" commercials, not a big "copyright infringement" case, not in my book, so in this case, he's either payin' homage, or else surfin' on somebody else's coattails, u b da judge.
brobearto 1 year ago
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death at a funeral...
whitedominic26 1 year ago
For What it is worth, James Whitcomb Riley, is credited with writing the song.
InternetGlove 1 year ago
Lmao this could also be renamed as the history of people capitalizing on black music. Thanks for the into though.
tigresuave11 1 year ago 4
@tigresuave11 Imitation is the best form of flattery?
GeoSilverAway 1 year ago 3
@GeoSilverAway
if only all folks, regardless of skin tone, would or could accept and appreciate what all people have brought to this country. even with the bad times, we never reflect on the greatness that came from it. we cant change that it happened but sans slavery, would we have blues? jazz? even in their pain 'colored' people gave us beauty. more people should appreciate that. just my two cents
FarmLifeDreamer 1 year ago
@tigresuave11 and no copyright fees to pay. Double brandies all round!
JohnBlaney 1 year ago
@JohnBlaney
lol can't argue with you on that. Its in the past anyways, time to keep it moving forward.
tigresuave11 1 year ago
@tigresuave11 Kind of like 80% of rap music borrows its beat from 70's and 80's rock songs
kenjdunbar 11 months ago
@kenjdunbar 7 months ago... But these folks didn't borrow it, they did the exact same thing. Borrowing is like how Elvis borrowed from Chuck Berry. I don't really car for most rap but at least its not a direct copy, they just take a piece of the beat and loop it. I do see your point, its kind of like how jazz and blues were borrowed from black culture, right?
tigresuave11 11 months ago
@tigresuave11 there's no such thing a black music...white music...chink/chinese music...etc, you fucking racist!!
Ponthie79 8 months ago
@Ponthie79
You just called Chinese "chinks" and I'm racist? All I'm saying is what happened. I didn't judge or call anyone out of their name unlike some racist people (you), I just said this is what happened. There is such a thing as black music, chinese music, ect, just like there is chinese, and black food, chinese and black culture, ect. Again, I'm not saying you can't use it, but you could at least acknowledge its roots instead of just taking it and saying its yours.
tigresuave11 8 months ago
The rock versions don't hold a candle to the Andrews Sisters original.
LibraryPervert 1 year ago
I got the Nelson Eddy 78rpm of this.
Vethraxx 1 year ago
You may not not this but "Shortnin' Bread" was the basis for the Elvis song "Clambake" from the movie of the same title. The song was recorded February 23, 1967 in RCAs Studio B in Nashville.
On youtube you can find the movie which includes a heavily overdubbed version of "Clambake" which sounds nothing like the regular record - but you may get an idea of the song though.
elVIs112 1 year ago
WHAT ABOUT THE VERSION OF : THE READYMEN, THATS THE BEST OF ALL. TAPED IN THE SAME STUDIO AS SURFIN BIRD OF THE TRASHMEN !! YOU CAN QUESS THE SOUND OF READYMEN'S VERSION, TRY TO FIND IT,
YOU'LL AGREE, GREETINGS FROM RIP ED'S SKULL A TONES FROM ZWOLLYFORNIA (nl)
RipEdZwollyfornia 1 year ago
Best version ever recorded was by Uncle Omar and the Ablebodied Arabs, a group popular in Mobile, Alabama, just before WW2. It is very rare. Does anybody have a copy?
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
Donald Duck and Lux Interior of the Cramps do my favorite versions
haller1929 1 year ago
@haller1929 DUH, Daffy Duck
haller1929 1 year ago
Haggard and Sweetwater were here.
baggedyman 1 year ago
this song was written by Frank Roserfield and the New Dealers back in 1950. he sokld the song to Chang Ha Shjeik , famous Fromosa crooner. Chanmge sanf it at mao funeral in 1980.
BrokenneckYgor 1 year ago
First time I heard this...was when Donald Duck sang it in one episode where he was making some pancakes and Chip n Dale tried to steal his pancakes.
KayKayEnd 1 year ago
compare this to the Charles Mingus version:)
nobanjono 1 year ago
EXCELLENT grouping! I just subscribed to your channel because I liked this set so much. Thank you for posting it!
velveteencurtain 1 year ago
and dont forget haggard and sweetwater's version of the song
edwin1161 1 year ago 7
Don't forget the great version by Cooksey and Leecan
shm7777777 1 year ago
the best version its the one from sweetwatter and haggard lol
141Zero 1 year ago
i like the jackson 5 version
7fire7ice7 1 year ago
MAMMY'S GONNA MAKE US SOME SHORTNiN' BREAD. AND THAT AIN'T ALL MAH MAMMY'S GONNA DO. SHE'S GONNA COOK US SOME COFFEE, TOO! GONNA MEHHH GONNA MEHHHHHHHYEAH.
runnersdialzero33 2 years ago
the last time i herd this song it was 2001 at the end. i was viseting my Greandpa in Meadow Lake Canada 7 years B4 he died this song came on the radeo and his old radeo is from the '70's and it was turnd on at the time
shaneinkster 2 years ago
I know that Burton Cummings was playing Paul Chaplain's when guesting on CKY Winnipeg around then. I don't suppose you heard that. He figured noone else plays that song.
GeoSilverAway 2 years ago
omg i love this haha
emmatheblondie18 2 years ago
The Cramps is my favorite....
icyustare 2 years ago
My Mom used to sing this to me when I was a wee boy. I shit myself when I heard The Cramps version
1motorcycleboy 2 years ago
You wouldn't think there would be so many versions of such an unusual song, but it's great fun, thanks!
videofan792 2 years ago
of course THE MAN takin' the song and makin' in popular. lol
sicilianotoronto 2 years ago
The Viscounts version is killer...love the backing vocals
joemgeek 2 years ago
i used to sing this song when i was a slave : )
xujessexa 2 years ago 18
@xujessexa
Day is never finished!
Master's got me workin'.
Someday master set me free.
baggedyman 1 year ago
At 4:42 Paul Chaplian's rockin' version of Shortin' Bread was the first No.1 song on The WLS Silver Dollar Survey Charts from October 10, 1960.
yogafan6500 3 years ago
this song needs to be on the radio...it's funky check out the brent lewis version
madchops82 3 years ago
Hey! You mentioned the Collins Kids version (available on Bear Records) then left it out!
Well done with the compilation though.
hebdag44 3 years ago 3
Ten minute limit on youtube you know. Hope The Viscounts mean something in England.
GeoSilverAway 3 years ago
Nelson Eddy did not sing this song in MAYTIME. He sang it on the Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy Chase and Sanborn radio show in 1937/1938. Audiences loved Nelson`s charming rendition. Nelson recorded it and it became one of his trademark songs.Nelson sang a self-effacing rendition of this song as the voice of Willie The Operatic Whale in the 1946 Disney animated film 'Make Mine Music". Thanks for sharing with Us. I love this song and enjoyed this video. Lorraine
Gemini730 3 years ago
yes nelson eddy recorded it in 2/1/42 acording to the album nelson eddy's greatest hits (CS 9481)
posaico 3 years ago