Geerup is one of those guys who seems to seethe rather than offer any logic or even a nice, civil argument. He's just got a bug up his behind about atheists.
That was like watching a lion stalking an injured sloth, you know what's going to happen but you're not prepared for just how brutal the take down will be.
"Destroying your own art is considered artistic suicide. A brutal punishment. The worst." - Simon Schama, art historian. Yeah, real smart, God.
"Art is the Queen of Sciences, communicating knowledge to all the generations of the world." - Leonardo da Vinci. Essentially, Science is King and Art its Queen.
"Art completes what nature cannot bring to a finish." -Aristotle
Sorry for replying to old stuff but his comment about God destroying his art pissed me off. Art history would rape his faith.
"I love it,it's fantastic actually,it's like you're trapped and we all get to watch you"
What's left to say, your Sadistic tendencies are hanging out on stage, and we all get an insight! It helps us realise exactly why the arrogance of the Anglo-Saxon mindset has been a disaster for Western civilisation ;1000yrs of tyranny from the largest empire the world has ever seen, yet you could never quell : 'The Lion in The North'
"My foot is on my native heath, and my name is MacGregor."- Walter Scott
04.10 to 04.20 I could SERIOUSLY have done without!
Geerup in fishnets & lipstick is to much to expect a person to visualise at any time of day or night.
Pissed out of ones head, overdosed on Ecstasy, or stranded on a desert island for all eternity, (any one, or the three combined) its simply to much, to expect a person to entertain.
So thanks for the imagery phill! ... ever considered doing a 'Shed those unwanted pounds / loose weight fast!' video? ... As I for one, may never eat again!!!
The bible says that very few will make it into heaven (even amongst believers). Could this be because they theists got their god wrong? I reference the beliefs of the Masons in my next comment.
@bakkerrich1979 It (Satan) is that Angel who was proud enough to believe himself God; brave enough to buy his independence at the price of eternal suffering and torture; beautiful enough to have adored himself in full divine light; strong enough to still reign in darkness amidst agony, and to have made himself a throne out of this inextinguishable pyre.
About the SALT! Salt at that time was worth more than it's weight in GOLD. The moral of that story was that her desire, love for the material (the city) was greater than that for God and so her punishment was to become the very thing she desired more than GOD... SALT. It's still the jealous God that we find primitive, but I just wanted to make the story more understood. The SALT did have a meaning, a rather pointless one, but there is a point none the less. From 9:46 I completely agree.
Wait... when I said moral of the story, what I meant to say, or should have said, is the meaning behind the use of salt. I'm not really sure if there is a moral to that story, other than do what I say or pay a consequence worse than death!
"Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all pissed off about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so long as it makes us sad. God gives us life and love and help, just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. It's our tears that give God his great power."
I like the analogy of religious freaks and hypnotised stage performers. They're both very entertaining in the short term, but they start to annoy people after a while.
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mystical non existant God?
I'd like you to prove that bit there but you won't because can't .
Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny your not, your more like Elmer Fudd .
The mystery of God whether he exists or not is not at all possible to prove one way or the the other. Those that want to believe in God or not is a matter of
faith. For you to act like you know for sure there is no God is proof positive that you are a raving lunatic and belong in an asylum .
Look at Geerup's video. Then look at this video. Who is the raving lunatic here? Also, God cannot be disproved - true, but even so there is no inklings to believe Jehovah. :P After all he should be still going around throwing lighting bolts and demanding sacrifices, considering that the Bible is supposedly his word and then making the conclusions about his personality. I am agnostic about the concept of a philosophical God, but to believe in that Jehovah character IS raving lunacy.
Nice try mate. But you haven't got the necessary credentials to argue with the likes of geerup. His sensationalism will give him the appearance of besting you every time. Better to leave this sort of thing to the likes of Thunderf00t or AronRa who will, with minimal effort, utterly destroy geerup and his ilk every single time. Look at how quickly geerup responds to you...compare that to how rarely he responds to AronRa. He deeply fears AronRa, with very good reason.
I agree that Geerup's response was rediculous, but your comment about the subscriber whoring... How does Blunty having more subscribers and Geerup less make Geerup the subscriber whore? Geerup was making the argument that Blunty performs cheap tricks to gain subscribers, which is true. The fact that Geerup has less subscribers than Blunty supports his claim rather than discredits it...So you sounded a bit stupid there. In closing, both Geerup and Blunty are retarded.
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"...the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed THEM is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore, as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather OUT of His Kingdom ALL things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the lake of fire. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
"...and it came about that the spamming of the bullshit Bible passages did plague the land of Youtube, and the district of Phillhelles did suffer from the proliferation of spammers.
And, yeah, did the mighty Phillhelles unlimber his mighty banhammer, for to smite the morons..."
Geerups and Sablechicken have unleashed a straggling band of mindless little creatards to troll my videos and harrass me. So far I've managed to recruit about half of them without even trying. Good one, G& S!
JCRReality. I think this show the standard wich he tries to keep.
No.1:"make earth better...GET THE FUCK OFF IT !....YOU WORTHLESS PILE OF DOG SHIT"
No.2: "You attack religion for one simple reason..YOU'RE A BIG FAT PILE OF STEAMING DOG SHIT AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY A UGLY SON OF A BITCH LIKE YOU CAN GAIN ANY ATTENTION... I think that pretty much sums it up."
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I'd like to be around when you are choking on your last break reaching into nothingness to grab nothing. The only garbage around here are you atheist queer, rump ranger,cocksuckers.
Oh no, mummy, mummy, he insinuated I was gay! *crys like a bitch* lol
I'd like to be around when you're choking on YOUR last breath, reaching out to your god and realising at last that there's no one there. The only garbage around here is your pathetic attempts at gaying us out, as though we are so insequre.
1) Explain why you use so many of life's failures to spread your delusions
2) For fucks sake stop the kiddies getting buggered by the priests!
3) Why would the Romans kill someone who could turn water into wine? If he could have actually done that he would have become emperor of Rome instead of decorating 2 lengths of hardwood on some hill
4) You don't even exist so why am I wasting my time.... Oh thats right to laugh at ChariotOfFuck
"GeerUp" is Arnie, a failed community theatre actor and aspiring evangelist. I don't like referring to him as "GeerUp" because it enables the mystique he is desperately trying to conjure, as his everyday persona is so dull and dumb he must pose and posture as this "GeerUp" character to gain influence. I like to just call him by name. Arnie. It keeps it simple, as simple as his 5th grade education.
He sounds exactly like and is a dead ringer for a guy encountered in community theater, who was arrogant, but insecure(hence the overblown smokescreen of confidence), and who was often overheard talking to women about his desires to be a preacher, and how much of a rush it was to talk to a crowd of people about god. He also uses the same hollow caricatures in his videos as he did on stage.
Yes, I encourage you, call him by name. Arnie. Diffuse any and all "power" he seeks as "GeerUp."
Ha...GEERUP, what a douche. He is perfectly willing to spew his religious bile all over YT, but when it comes down to his being able to receive any ridicule or mockery counterattack...GEERUP will block whomever retaliates against his stance. Needless to say, he has blocked me from his channels. "You really got me good, huh, GEERUP?"
"GEERUP, you are a pussy. You can dish it out, but you cannot take it...can you? Alas, you are the perfect ambassador for christian fundamentalism."
if u were god that existed wy wouldn't u torture people for ure own amusment, it would bore you but still, its a way christians could meazzle out of this accusation.
because so called god would be to high to be caring about human life, although he is alcaring....interresting:P
Sodom & Gomorrah what a mythical lie, right? Youtube search The Physical Ashen Remains of Sodom & Gomorrah and watch. You know this is the one the atheist and scientist have a lot a difficulty with, can't explain it. You know you people are so biblically illiterate it is sad! Lots wife was told not to look back and she did anyway, guess she didn't believe God huh? Kinda like you guys. there is more of a reason, but why bother explaining it.
Hey I watched that The Physical Ashen Remains of Sodom & Gomorrah and frankly I have no idea how this happened, you said you know full well know what happened. Could you tell everyone your opinion? A rational one please?
@philhellenes, YT christians make me laugh I like this idea: if one takes the biblical details and runs them through modern refrencing, you can deduce that this city of sodom and gomorrah were tactically nuked (melted sand etc) and Lots wife looked back exposing her self to the flash whilst the others duck n covered with shields of brass & lead, now who's got the IQ to make nukes back then? thats a question, considering around the same time in india a similar Nuking happened...
This is how Christians can get away with death threats.
The "repent or burn" comments are arguments based on zero evidence and sheer threat of violence exceeding any death threat.
They try to strike fear into people as a method of persuasion- they just invoke someone who would be much better at killing. This is how they can pretend to "care" about their opponents, while at the same time promising infinite vengeance.
Hon, just like all of the retarded Christians before you, you resort to death threats instead of making rational arguments against Atheism.
Don't get me wrong, I am an Atheist, but I am pretty open-minded. If you want me to believe in the Christian God, then show me proof for his existence, or at least debunk the mountains of evidence disproving his existence.
"BELIEVE IN THE LORD JEZUZ CHRIST OR YOU WILL BURNz IN HELL 4EVERz!!!!11"
Spot on. That guy, geerup, makes me laugh in every video. He always gets things just slightly wrong. Like calling Carl Sagan an 'astrologist' and referring to evolution as random chance. I thought he might be a parody of a creationist (not that a creationist needs parody) but then I found out he blocked me. I had never even met the guy in a comments section, or a forum, hadn't watched any of his videos. And I've never disrespected someone that didn't disrespect me first. Still don't get it.
I tried to leave a comment on his 'Atheists won't believe' video, but couldn't. I tried to subscribe to check if I was blocked and I was. But no matter. socksonthemoon1 left my comment for me.
That's odd. I've done about 3 vids to him, all highly critical, and insulting in places, and he's never blocked me. Your experience adds weight to my suspicion that he likes negative, mocking attention (martyr complex?).
He has been told MANY times that evolution is NOT random chance. He doesn't care. He just spouts the same crap over and over, even when he KNOWS it's scientifically incorrect. That's also why he mentioned Sagan. He wants people to bite, and he HATES the "light" of science.
Diseases originated from God as he made everything. Also, as heis all powerful it is also his fault for not stopping it, it's his fucking universe. I wouldn't be proud of a hospital rife with MRSA.
bravo bravo this is intellegent i turned atheist due to plain common sense and my whole family was against me ppl like geerup scare me they really do i hear storys about grown men in american suicide for there god i find that amazing i use a diff example i dont say hypnotized i more say brainwashed seems like a better analogy but thank you u really are helping the world no matter what n e one says and believe it or not so is geerup him looking like an idiot is just giving u more gas for the fire
philhellenes.. your thinking is shewed. God does not send someone to Hell for all eternity because they failed to believe in Him. Man sends Himself to Hell for failure to follow God's 10 Commandments. Google them. If you've kept ALL TEN...you, your mom, your friends..they're all good to go. Break one and your journey will take a nasty turn.
Your thinking is skewed. You are apologizing for a "people-burner". ALL people break some of the commandments. They ARE animals - they just can't help it! All fail to meet the commandments over their lifetime. So your God could "legitimately" burn all. I know YOU have broken commandments. Why aren't YOU going to Hell?
philhellenes...YOU ARE CORRECT. I have personally witnessed to many people who claim they have kept the 10 Commandments. You and I both know it's not possible. That's why God sent His Son to die on the cross. It is God's ONLY acceptable sacrifice for breaking the Commandments. If we refuse God's gift of salvation we are in effect refusing eternal life.
bornagain001 - So you admit you are wrong in your original argument, that keeping the commandments is largely irrelevant, AS LONG AS YOU ACCEPT (believe in) JESUS???
So God DOES send people to Hell for not believing in Him through the Son. We atheists do NOT refuse God's salvation. We just don't, CAN'T, believe it. My "skewed" thoughts seem 100% accurate.
"We atheists do NOT refuse God's salvation. We just don't, CAN'T, believe it. My "skewed" thoughts seem 100% accurate."
Of course they do. Just like the alcoholic that will not admit they have a drinking problem, the unbeliever will not admit they have a SIN problem. NO ONE can be helped until they admit their problem.
bornagain001 you are a fool. If I say believing in fairies is your only chance of survival, can you believe it? No.
We CANNOT believe what you believe. You're too dumb to even understand that simple concept. OR you're pretending to be dumb so you don't have to admit you're worshiping a "people burner". You're sick.
Of course you can. You are just making excuses. Seach (Lee Strobel). He was an avowed atheist who became a Christian. If he can believe, YOU CAN BELIEVE.
bornagain, again, you are simplifying our lack of belief as if we can do something about it!
YOU try believing, say, Santa is real. You TRY that.
Maybe because I know too much science and history and basic human psychology, I simply CANNOT believe what you say you believe. I'm almost convinced NO ONE can really believe it. You just say you do for psychological reasons.
Nobody can be helped until they admit their problem? Exactly. The Christian can't be helped on the path to reason until he admits that he is believing things which are based on no evidence and on decidedly faulty logic.
Never forget that Hitler burned Anne Frank to death because she was Jewish. We call Hitler evil. God burned Anne Frank for eternity because she was Jewish. Christians call God loving.
You need to bone up on your bible if you think God only sends people to hell because they didn't follow the 10 commandments.
"God burned Anne Frank for eternity because she was Jewish."
Unbelievers are under the false assumption that everyone receives the same punishment in Hell. This is NOT SO. Burning in Hell is reserved for the very worst society has to offer.
Not just looked over her shoulder when she was told not to but looked over her shoulder at a city that was being destroyed and that still had people in it that she knew and cared about as the story goes that only Lot's family was spared. Who wouldn't look?
...Yet another video proverb by the insanely righteous philhellenes... :o)
...Hey Mates come and get your hate for thousands of Subscribers are hungry for more bloody-self-righteous-chaste... :o)
...If it wasn't for geerup and lucas you'd all have no complaints just hedonism' gone amuck and all the while not realizing you all are just passin' the stupefied buck... :O)
Seeing as you just defend Lucas on my other vid, and Geerup here, and YOU call ME "insanely rightwous", AND having looked at your channel, I realise I ain't getting through to you and I never will. Some people are too far gone. You're one of 'em. I won't waste another second on you.
First of all: Well done for sticking up for yourself :)
Secondly: I must admit, I am tempted to swing towards believing in the existance of G-d, but even if I was a very strong believer for definite I wouldn't say that anyone who created something so valuable as human life would just destroy it.
But I do love how you stood up for yourself so valiantly :)
I suspect that geerup does not deserve much more attention than you have already given him. Arguing with His disillusionment with rationality is analogous to explaining geological dating to a chimpanzee.
A: Some people out there actually find Geerup funny and seemingly elightening (?)
B: Some people (such as Geerup) wouldn't believe a fish is a fish even if you slap them in the face with it.
To any Geerup-ites reading this, That last one, by the way, is a methaphor... *Just* in case you take that literally and argue that he actually would know if he was being slapped by a fish or not. You know exactly what I mean by it. ;)
Notice, in GEERUP's response video, how he implies that challenging or critiquing GEERUP, is the equivalent of "sleeping" with the Devil. IOW, if you are against GEERUP, you are in league with the devil. I'm sure he actually believes that crap. What a fruitcake.
"you couldn't counter my points using logic, rationality, or evidence"
Of course he couldn't. He's not able to, and he knows it. And, his tactic of responding with "humor" is beginning to wear thin.
Phil, I'm replying here, to your above quote, in the comment section of GEERUP's response video, only because(surprise, surprise) the pussy has me blocked.
At 7:08ish. You made a mistake. Infinite, when referring to time means no beginning OR end. You are think eternal, which is basically the reverse of the mistake that WOTM made in their absolutely terrible debate.
Infinite can pertain to things such as wisdom, presence, etc. as well, which I think is what GEERUP was getting at. In that case, we still are not infinite.
One more problem. You seem to be addressing the plausibility of the Biblical stories rather than the actual question, which was actually God changing from the old to new testament. Admittedly GEERUP didn't do that either, but if you really want to rise above him, you may want to point that out rather than what you did here.
rozeboosje (8 seconds ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Hey, Geerup. When one first loads this video it doesn't show the longwinded description. It just shows "I'm blunt". How apt. You certainly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Wait a minute GEERUP believes that he was created by a master creator! You're the one that believe that you come from apes and chimps, so in this line up on stage of a master in an illusionist, you're the one that looks and acted more like the monkey becasue that where you think you have come from.
First, learn english. Then study ethics and morailty in philosophy to understand why actions can be determined through logic. Our primative ancestos have nothing to do with how we behave when thinking clearly. Only when we're not thinking do we resort to animalistic behavior. Just look at your own actions.
Geerup believes without any evidence that here's a bearded man in the sky that scrutinizes his every move, and will torture 95% of all human beings in a scary dungeon after the day of judgment.
Philhellenes believes in a scientific theory that is backed up by mountains of objective evidence, and is responsible for many technological advancements that prolong our lives today.
it has nothing to do with telling people to not be curious. it hs to do with obedience, can anyone see the difference? lots wife KNEW the results of not doing what she knew she should be but she chose to ignore God's warning.
But why was there a need for such a warning? What method of destruction was God using on Sodom and Gamora that would turn an observer into salt? Seems like God did it for kicks and not neccessity. If it's about obedience, the order was not to be curious.
why was there need for such a warning? He didn't HAVE to give warning, but because He didnt want anyone to suffer and for all to have a chance He allowed them that and they STILL denied Him! How much more do you want? No, It wasn't just for kicks, it was just punishment, and he held off as long as he could...
Geerup looks like your twin brother.
saamohod 4 months ago
Geerup is one of those guys who seems to seethe rather than offer any logic or even a nice, civil argument. He's just got a bug up his behind about atheists.
bartonim 10 months ago
Overkill much?
That was like watching a lion stalking an injured sloth, you know what's going to happen but you're not prepared for just how brutal the take down will be.
MrAudiovideodisco 10 months ago
@MrAudiovideodisco LOL, injured sloth
Yourfrontallobe 10 months ago
Phil you are the boss!!!! Keep making videos mate, the quality is first class.
TheHillsman09 10 months ago
"Destroying your own art is considered artistic suicide. A brutal punishment. The worst." - Simon Schama, art historian. Yeah, real smart, God.
"Art is the Queen of Sciences, communicating knowledge to all the generations of the world." - Leonardo da Vinci. Essentially, Science is King and Art its Queen.
"Art completes what nature cannot bring to a finish." -Aristotle
Sorry for replying to old stuff but his comment about God destroying his art pissed me off. Art history would rape his faith.
glacierlily 1 year ago
You are so right!!
SupeHero00 1 year ago
Wow, that's his analogy?
Seems more like, god has the right to destroy his creations, as a mother has the right to kill her children if she is not satisfied with them!
and I SUGGESTED that analogy! that's disgusting!
oeruli 1 year ago
I'd give you 5 stars out of 5 if I could, but I can only 'like' this. It feels inadequate.
I might just click 'like' 5 times, for psychological effect. :)
musli4brekkies 1 year ago
Fact: Geerup thinks the Texas Spiny lizard is a dinosaur.
mmmmmarcus 1 year ago
Wow talk about self esteem issues.
slicingwater 1 year ago
"I love it,it's fantastic actually,it's like you're trapped and we all get to watch you"
What's left to say, your Sadistic tendencies are hanging out on stage, and we all get an insight! It helps us realise exactly why the arrogance of the Anglo-Saxon mindset has been a disaster for Western civilisation ;1000yrs of tyranny from the largest empire the world has ever seen, yet you could never quell : 'The Lion in The North'
"My foot is on my native heath, and my name is MacGregor."- Walter Scott
DastardlyDawkins 1 year ago
04.10 to 04.20 I could SERIOUSLY have done without!
Geerup in fishnets & lipstick is to much to expect a person to visualise at any time of day or night.
Pissed out of ones head, overdosed on Ecstasy, or stranded on a desert island for all eternity, (any one, or the three combined) its simply to much, to expect a person to entertain.
So thanks for the imagery phill! ... ever considered doing a 'Shed those unwanted pounds / loose weight fast!' video? ... As I for one, may never eat again!!!
M0THERKN0WSBEST 1 year ago
MMmm nibbly treats.... nom nom
ChristiansTheory 1 year ago
The bible says that very few will make it into heaven (even amongst believers). Could this be because they theists got their god wrong? I reference the beliefs of the Masons in my next comment.
bakkerrich1979 1 year ago
@bakkerrich1979 It (Satan) is that Angel who was proud enough to believe himself God; brave enough to buy his independence at the price of eternal suffering and torture; beautiful enough to have adored himself in full divine light; strong enough to still reign in darkness amidst agony, and to have made himself a throne out of this inextinguishable pyre.
bakkerrich1979 1 year ago
Great vid, thumbed +
DARTHMOBIUS 1 year ago
Does an artist have a right to destroy his children?
Zekkron 1 year ago 2
wow! Anyone else just have a flashback to the Venomfang argument: "If youre an atheist life has no more value than a CD"?
Apparently to GEERUP human life has the same lack of value that VFX baselessly accused us of having.
GallusSapien 2 years ago 3
About the SALT! Salt at that time was worth more than it's weight in GOLD. The moral of that story was that her desire, love for the material (the city) was greater than that for God and so her punishment was to become the very thing she desired more than GOD... SALT. It's still the jealous God that we find primitive, but I just wanted to make the story more understood. The SALT did have a meaning, a rather pointless one, but there is a point none the less. From 9:46 I completely agree.
RyRyVids 2 years ago
Wait... when I said moral of the story, what I meant to say, or should have said, is the meaning behind the use of salt. I'm not really sure if there is a moral to that story, other than do what I say or pay a consequence worse than death!
RyRyVids 2 years ago
It's like they made a really bad investment.........Lost thousands of dollars, and they don't have the guts to tell the wife.
They know it's wrong, but they can't face the truth.
It's the Concorde fallacy.
Google that.
bigboy45454545 2 years ago
geerup and philhellenes look alike heehehe like brothers
tbcslayer 2 years ago
@tbcslayer but only Phil had the brain...
Acrimonator 1 year ago
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"Sometimes God takes those closest to us, because it makes him feel better about himself. He is a very vengeful God. He's all pissed off about something we did thousands of years ago. He just can't get over it, so he doesn't care who he takes. Children, puppies, it don't matter to him, so long as it makes us sad. God gives us life and love and help, just so that he can tear it all away and make us cry, so he can drink the sweet milk of our tears. It's our tears that give God his great power."
elreynate08 2 years ago
The artist can destroy his artwork... I guess in the same way that a mother can destroy her foetus. Oh, wait...
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Christheatheist1 2 years ago
Excellent analysis. But then I WOULD say that, as you have voiced my thoughts with almost spooky precision. ;)
philhellenes 2 years ago
Not so spooky sinceyou brought this idea up to me first :D.
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
I really enjoyed... Thank... ^^
This Geerup is really fucked up... : /
Acrimonator 2 years ago
You don't exactly need a medical degree to see geerup is completely psychotic.
SmoothInstigator 2 years ago
I like the analogy of religious freaks and hypnotised stage performers. They're both very entertaining in the short term, but they start to annoy people after a while.
toelesshoe 2 years ago 3
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mystical non existant God?
I'd like you to prove that bit there but you won't because can't .
Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny your not, your more like Elmer Fudd .
The mystery of God whether he exists or not is not at all possible to prove one way or the the other. Those that want to believe in God or not is a matter of
faith. For you to act like you know for sure there is no God is proof positive that you are a raving lunatic and belong in an asylum .
dave777blaster 2 years ago
Look at Geerup's video. Then look at this video. Who is the raving lunatic here? Also, God cannot be disproved - true, but even so there is no inklings to believe Jehovah. :P After all he should be still going around throwing lighting bolts and demanding sacrifices, considering that the Bible is supposedly his word and then making the conclusions about his personality. I am agnostic about the concept of a philosophical God, but to believe in that Jehovah character IS raving lunacy.
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Osoz3 2 years ago
Nice try mate. But you haven't got the necessary credentials to argue with the likes of geerup. His sensationalism will give him the appearance of besting you every time. Better to leave this sort of thing to the likes of Thunderf00t or AronRa who will, with minimal effort, utterly destroy geerup and his ilk every single time. Look at how quickly geerup responds to you...compare that to how rarely he responds to AronRa. He deeply fears AronRa, with very good reason.
lukeatmadik 2 years ago
Fucking Theists, quoting shit from your fairytale book won't ever prove God exists. Idiots.
SecularSaracen 2 years ago 3
Calm down
YahyaSnow 2 years ago
I agree that Geerup's response was rediculous, but your comment about the subscriber whoring... How does Blunty having more subscribers and Geerup less make Geerup the subscriber whore? Geerup was making the argument that Blunty performs cheap tricks to gain subscribers, which is true. The fact that Geerup has less subscribers than Blunty supports his claim rather than discredits it...So you sounded a bit stupid there. In closing, both Geerup and Blunty are retarded.
Hey13251 2 years ago
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"...the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sowed THEM is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. Therefore, as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather OUT of His Kingdom ALL things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the lake of fire. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Matthew 13: 36-42
TheShiningLamp 2 years ago
"...and it came about that the spamming of the bullshit Bible passages did plague the land of Youtube, and the district of Phillhelles did suffer from the proliferation of spammers.
And, yeah, did the mighty Phillhelles unlimber his mighty banhammer, for to smite the morons..."
The Book of Humor 1:1
Kieranfoy 2 years ago 12
LMFAO!!
coolbeens21 2 years ago
No, no, no! Don't laugh your ass off!
Such a pretty thing should be cherished, not laughed off at the drop of an incredibly witty comment.
Kieranfoy 2 years ago
You are worth losing my pretty ass over ;)
coolbeens21 2 years ago
I am flattered, sweet lady.
Kieranfoy 2 years ago
Geerups and Sablechicken have unleashed a straggling band of mindless little creatards to troll my videos and harrass me. So far I've managed to recruit about half of them without even trying. Good one, G& S!
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
Sigh, of course it's an Englishman that proves us wrong again...
338dmac 2 years ago
i am god.
gloverage 2 years ago
I want to share some comments from
JCRReality. I think this show the standard wich he tries to keep.
No.1:"make earth better...GET THE FUCK OFF IT !....YOU WORTHLESS PILE OF DOG SHIT"
No.2: "You attack religion for one simple reason..YOU'RE A BIG FAT PILE OF STEAMING DOG SHIT AND IT'S THE ONLY WAY A UGLY SON OF A BITCH LIKE YOU CAN GAIN ANY ATTENTION... I think that pretty much sums it up."
Yes, I think that pretty much sums it up. :)
BelieveNoGod 2 years ago 2
Oh ?
Are you a believer ?
Then I guess you don't want to listen.
You don't want to open your eyes, and see what garbage the bible contains.
BelieveNoGod 2 years ago
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I'd like to be around when you are choking on your last break reaching into nothingness to grab nothing. The only garbage around here are you atheist queer, rump ranger,cocksuckers.
JCRReality 2 years ago
Oh no, mummy, mummy, he insinuated I was gay! *crys like a bitch* lol
I'd like to be around when you're choking on YOUR last breath, reaching out to your god and realising at last that there's no one there. The only garbage around here is your pathetic attempts at gaying us out, as though we are so insequre.
AnimaRaptor 2 years ago 3
My my you are an angry little closet dweller jcrr... I thought you liked the whole cocksucking thing.
myrmecia1977 2 years ago
That was a WEIRD name for a bible thumper.
'Reality' ?
No no. queer, and cocksucker ?
Go visit 'father' Ted Haggard mister. There you will get excactly what you want.
Where your mother and father cousins ?
BelieveNoGod 2 years ago
hahaha, nice man, good answer...:)
Khuntastik 2 years ago
Only because you have yet to master the art of thinking.
myrmecia1977 2 years ago
Hypotheitcally speaking
if you were to face God and you wanted to prove his existence to the whole world...what evidence would you ask him give you in order to prove it?
ChariotOfFaith 2 years ago
1) Explain why you use so many of life's failures to spread your delusions
2) For fucks sake stop the kiddies getting buggered by the priests!
3) Why would the Romans kill someone who could turn water into wine? If he could have actually done that he would have become emperor of Rome instead of decorating 2 lengths of hardwood on some hill
4) You don't even exist so why am I wasting my time.... Oh thats right to laugh at ChariotOfFuck
myrmecia1977 2 years ago
woah dude relax no need to get abusive.
I was merely opening the hypothetical question to philosophical debate.
As I'm sure all Athiests would agree with me
Some common courtesy and mutual respect is appreciated, even as an athiest you would promote peace and tolerance to all religions.
I'm not shoving anything down your throat or making you believe anything you don't want to.
The choice is yours what you want to believe.
ChariotOfFaith 2 years ago
You asked a hypothetical question and got an hypothetical answer. Deal with it
myrmecia1977 2 years ago
...didn't believe in little old tantrum throwing goddy...
Watchdis44 2 years ago
"GeerUp" is Arnie, a failed community theatre actor and aspiring evangelist. I don't like referring to him as "GeerUp" because it enables the mystique he is desperately trying to conjure, as his everyday persona is so dull and dumb he must pose and posture as this "GeerUp" character to gain influence. I like to just call him by name. Arnie. It keeps it simple, as simple as his 5th grade education.
Arnie, if you're watching, you SUCK !
By the way, great video !
Informitron 2 years ago 3
Inforitron...is Arnie his real name? For real? If so, that's what I'm calling him from now on.
Funny how theater and evangelism go together, no disrespect to theater, mind you.
Hey, Arnie...evangelism isn't working for you either, ya douche. Pvssy.
otherether 2 years ago
He sounds exactly like and is a dead ringer for a guy encountered in community theater, who was arrogant, but insecure(hence the overblown smokescreen of confidence), and who was often overheard talking to women about his desires to be a preacher, and how much of a rush it was to talk to a crowd of people about god. He also uses the same hollow caricatures in his videos as he did on stage.
Yes, I encourage you, call him by name. Arnie. Diffuse any and all "power" he seeks as "GeerUp."
Informitron 2 years ago
Informitron- Thanks dude. I'll call him Arnie from now on. :)
Christheatheist1 2 years ago
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Ha...GEERUP, what a douche. He is perfectly willing to spew his religious bile all over YT, but when it comes down to his being able to receive any ridicule or mockery counterattack...GEERUP will block whomever retaliates against his stance. Needless to say, he has blocked me from his channels. "You really got me good, huh, GEERUP?"
"GEERUP, you are a pussy. You can dish it out, but you cannot take it...can you? Alas, you are the perfect ambassador for christian fundamentalism."
otherether 2 years ago 3
Your absolutely right. That's religions motto. Don't think. OBEY!!!
MegaTruthLover 2 years ago 2
Daffy Duck is no more believable than Bugs Bunny."
You are priceless Phil !
Keep 'em coming.
nolobede 2 years ago
Epic
EpochOfReason 2 years ago
If Geerup actually said that, that IS NOT good.
NotYourTypicalNegro 2 years ago
Beautifully put, hat off to you sir.
gabonicabitis 2 years ago
Sometimes a good pwnage can set a motherfucker straight.
krankenshaft 2 years ago 3
It's like Homer Simpson said Phil "It was a loooong time ago Lisa"
eurabio 2 years ago 2
I love the look of shock on your face at 5:35
krankenshaft 3 years ago 3
I have watched a ton of youtube ownage videos, and this one by far takes the cake.
It was a privilege sir.
lazyconquistador 3 years ago 25
Ya know what you and Geerup look kinda alike!
TheAgnosticAspie 3 years ago
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Hmmmm. Do you WANT to be blocked???????
:)
philhellenes 3 years ago
Middle-aged British pwnage! Absolutely oved it!
Fisch71 3 years ago 21
Strap yourself in! Incoming!
krankenshaft 3 years ago 4
The pwange in this vid is priceless philhellenes.
ComradeAgopian 3 years ago 7
Good vid
paulie1982 3 years ago 5
lawl
if u were god that existed wy wouldn't u torture people for ure own amusment, it would bore you but still, its a way christians could meazzle out of this accusation.
because so called god would be to high to be caring about human life, although he is alcaring....interresting:P
robindesade 3 years ago
what a great video! 5/5
kalsolarUK 3 years ago 6
I could say that about every one of yours I've watched. :)
philhellenes 3 years ago
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Sodom & Gomorrah what a mythical lie, right? Youtube search The Physical Ashen Remains of Sodom & Gomorrah and watch. You know this is the one the atheist and scientist have a lot a difficulty with, can't explain it. You know you people are so biblically illiterate it is sad! Lots wife was told not to look back and she did anyway, guess she didn't believe God huh? Kinda like you guys. there is more of a reason, but why bother explaining it.
jesusrules2012 3 years ago
Seeing as we know full well what destroyed Soddom there is no need to go to a Christian crackpot video for an explanation.
Nice to meet another loon who actually believes Mrs Lot was turned into bubblegum. Spread your bronze-aged fear elsewhere. You will NOT do it here.
philhellenes 3 years ago 7
Hey I watched that The Physical Ashen Remains of Sodom & Gomorrah and frankly I have no idea how this happened, you said you know full well know what happened. Could you tell everyone your opinion? A rational one please?
1983scooter1983 3 years ago
@philhellenes, YT christians make me laugh I like this idea: if one takes the biblical details and runs them through modern refrencing, you can deduce that this city of sodom and gomorrah were tactically nuked (melted sand etc) and Lots wife looked back exposing her self to the flash whilst the others duck n covered with shields of brass & lead, now who's got the IQ to make nukes back then? thats a question, considering around the same time in india a similar Nuking happened...
DARTHMOBIUS 1 year ago
YOU need to look into things on a deeper level, if you are to understand the word of God.
Blegemoth 3 years ago
Or you could look into it on a deeper level, and see it for the load of shit it is:)
captainmutiny 3 years ago 8
Almost too easy no?
nice job.
Shaggadelic99 3 years ago
That doesnt look like a Marlboro : |
loveualatte 3 years ago
Brilliant.
5*
cosa59 3 years ago 2
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philhellenes >>> sadly you're going to find out the hard way how wrong you are.
at your appointed time of death, you'll discover your so, so wrong.
unless of course, the Lord has mercy on you & brings you to repentance prior to you taking your last breathe in this mortal life.
YBigRay 3 years ago
Come talk to me one second after I flatline. I suspect that is the only circumstance in which I COULD care less.
philhellenes 3 years ago 5
I only wish I was as brilliant as you! You are an inspiration. Thank you.
tecnoblix 3 years ago 3
This is how Christians can get away with death threats.
The "repent or burn" comments are arguments based on zero evidence and sheer threat of violence exceeding any death threat.
They try to strike fear into people as a method of persuasion- they just invoke someone who would be much better at killing. This is how they can pretend to "care" about their opponents, while at the same time promising infinite vengeance.
SeenAndNotSeen 3 years ago 6
Hon, just like all of the retarded Christians before you, you resort to death threats instead of making rational arguments against Atheism.
Don't get me wrong, I am an Atheist, but I am pretty open-minded. If you want me to believe in the Christian God, then show me proof for his existence, or at least debunk the mountains of evidence disproving his existence.
"BELIEVE IN THE LORD JEZUZ CHRIST OR YOU WILL BURNz IN HELL 4EVERz!!!!11"
How pathetic.
MattressGallery 3 years ago 2
you Look like geerup. same face, same mouth, especially, same eyes, same hair, etc., etc.
hmmm. i suspected him (him/you?) of being a brilliant performance artist doing an ironic thing.
people, we may be being seriously played with.
PickUsername 3 years ago
this guy is scary
sicilianmontrealer29 4 years ago
Spot on. That guy, geerup, makes me laugh in every video. He always gets things just slightly wrong. Like calling Carl Sagan an 'astrologist' and referring to evolution as random chance. I thought he might be a parody of a creationist (not that a creationist needs parody) but then I found out he blocked me. I had never even met the guy in a comments section, or a forum, hadn't watched any of his videos. And I've never disrespected someone that didn't disrespect me first. Still don't get it.
riversonthemoon 4 years ago 2
I tried to leave a comment on his 'Atheists won't believe' video, but couldn't. I tried to subscribe to check if I was blocked and I was. But no matter. socksonthemoon1 left my comment for me.
riversonthemoon 4 years ago
That's odd. I've done about 3 vids to him, all highly critical, and insulting in places, and he's never blocked me. Your experience adds weight to my suspicion that he likes negative, mocking attention (martyr complex?).
He has been told MANY times that evolution is NOT random chance. He doesn't care. He just spouts the same crap over and over, even when he KNOWS it's scientifically incorrect. That's also why he mentioned Sagan. He wants people to bite, and he HATES the "light" of science.
philhellenes 4 years ago
You're awesome. Great video, and great arguments.
... What brand?
bigalisme 4 years ago
you're my fucking hero.
frisbeesANDflipflops 4 years ago
Self-humiliation is an art? Lol.
Not much to say on this. Just hoorah for common sense I guess ^-^
Sarahykinz 4 years ago
People kill people, not God. Diseases kill people, not God. Heck, bad luck even kills people. Peace.
Songbottle 4 years ago
Diseases originated from God as he made everything. Also, as heis all powerful it is also his fault for not stopping it, it's his fucking universe. I wouldn't be proud of a hospital rife with MRSA.
StephenJHeaton 4 years ago
Fantastic! The stage hypnotist analogy is absolutely spot on. Hope you don't mind if I borrow it. ^_^ I can see that getting across to a few people.
pinkfloydpirate 4 years ago
bravo bravo this is intellegent i turned atheist due to plain common sense and my whole family was against me ppl like geerup scare me they really do i hear storys about grown men in american suicide for there god i find that amazing i use a diff example i dont say hypnotized i more say brainwashed seems like a better analogy but thank you u really are helping the world no matter what n e one says and believe it or not so is geerup him looking like an idiot is just giving u more gas for the fire
knife98 4 years ago
little old tantrum-throwing goddy
this coinage ought to be preserved! great
albuseverus 4 years ago
I LOVE the beginning of this, "Geerup, you nasty little man..." Christian apologists have to be challenged. They are simply looking for power.
quammski 4 years ago 3
Beautiful video!!! (sob) I loved it!!! So crystal clear and precise. Well done!
Domzdream 4 years ago
philhellenes.. your thinking is shewed. God does not send someone to Hell for all eternity because they failed to believe in Him. Man sends Himself to Hell for failure to follow God's 10 Commandments. Google them. If you've kept ALL TEN...you, your mom, your friends..they're all good to go. Break one and your journey will take a nasty turn.
bornagain001 4 years ago
Your thinking is skewed. You are apologizing for a "people-burner". ALL people break some of the commandments. They ARE animals - they just can't help it! All fail to meet the commandments over their lifetime. So your God could "legitimately" burn all. I know YOU have broken commandments. Why aren't YOU going to Hell?
philhellenes 4 years ago
philhellenes...YOU ARE CORRECT. I have personally witnessed to many people who claim they have kept the 10 Commandments. You and I both know it's not possible. That's why God sent His Son to die on the cross. It is God's ONLY acceptable sacrifice for breaking the Commandments. If we refuse God's gift of salvation we are in effect refusing eternal life.
bornagain001 4 years ago
bornagain001 - So you admit you are wrong in your original argument, that keeping the commandments is largely irrelevant, AS LONG AS YOU ACCEPT (believe in) JESUS???
So God DOES send people to Hell for not believing in Him through the Son. We atheists do NOT refuse God's salvation. We just don't, CAN'T, believe it. My "skewed" thoughts seem 100% accurate.
philhellenes 4 years ago
"We atheists do NOT refuse God's salvation. We just don't, CAN'T, believe it. My "skewed" thoughts seem 100% accurate."
Of course they do. Just like the alcoholic that will not admit they have a drinking problem, the unbeliever will not admit they have a SIN problem. NO ONE can be helped until they admit their problem.
bornagain001 4 years ago
bornagain001 you are a fool. If I say believing in fairies is your only chance of survival, can you believe it? No.
We CANNOT believe what you believe. You're too dumb to even understand that simple concept. OR you're pretending to be dumb so you don't have to admit you're worshiping a "people burner". You're sick.
philhellenes 4 years ago
"We CANNOT believe what you believe."
Of course you can. You are just making excuses. Seach (Lee Strobel). He was an avowed atheist who became a Christian. If he can believe, YOU CAN BELIEVE.
bornagain001 4 years ago
bornagain, again, you are simplifying our lack of belief as if we can do something about it!
YOU try believing, say, Santa is real. You TRY that.
Maybe because I know too much science and history and basic human psychology, I simply CANNOT believe what you say you believe. I'm almost convinced NO ONE can really believe it. You just say you do for psychological reasons.
philhellenes 4 years ago
Nobody can be helped until they admit their problem? Exactly. The Christian can't be helped on the path to reason until he admits that he is believing things which are based on no evidence and on decidedly faulty logic.
It's okay to admit it. We're here to help.
BrianTheGoldfish 4 years ago
Never forget that Hitler burned Anne Frank to death because she was Jewish. We call Hitler evil. God burned Anne Frank for eternity because she was Jewish. Christians call God loving.
You need to bone up on your bible if you think God only sends people to hell because they didn't follow the 10 commandments.
Rantandreason 4 years ago
"God burned Anne Frank for eternity because she was Jewish."
Unbelievers are under the false assumption that everyone receives the same punishment in Hell. This is NOT SO. Burning in Hell is reserved for the very worst society has to offer.
bornagain001 4 years ago
Really? Please show me the verse in the bible which says this. Or are you just making that up and assuming you know the mind of god?
Rantandreason 4 years ago
atheists are the worst?
hakamashi 4 years ago
Thank you. Thank you, brilliant. You have said what I feel so much more eloquently than I could.
kiriaka1972 4 years ago
Not just looked over her shoulder when she was told not to but looked over her shoulder at a city that was being destroyed and that still had people in it that she knew and cared about as the story goes that only Lot's family was spared. Who wouldn't look?
msphatgrll 4 years ago
Small critique: I thought "farce of a religion" was redundant.
XP
BoozyBeggar 4 years ago
...Yet another video proverb by the insanely righteous philhellenes... :o)
...Hey Mates come and get your hate for thousands of Subscribers are hungry for more bloody-self-righteous-chaste... :o)
...If it wasn't for geerup and lucas you'd all have no complaints just hedonism' gone amuck and all the while not realizing you all are just passin' the stupefied buck... :O)
Lockmanship 4 years ago
Seeing as you just defend Lucas on my other vid, and Geerup here, and YOU call ME "insanely rightwous", AND having looked at your channel, I realise I ain't getting through to you and I never will. Some people are too far gone. You're one of 'em. I won't waste another second on you.
philhellenes 4 years ago
First of all: Well done for sticking up for yourself :)
Secondly: I must admit, I am tempted to swing towards believing in the existance of G-d, but even if I was a very strong believer for definite I wouldn't say that anyone who created something so valuable as human life would just destroy it.
But I do love how you stood up for yourself so valiantly :)
distant2sun 4 years ago
Never confuse my anger at religion with your beliefs. YOU are NOT the problem. I grant you immunity from any of my criticisms. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
thinking living breathing feeling human beings you say that just apply to the atheist for the religious its just living breathing feeling
Jamie321R 4 years ago
We're all just human. That's kind of the problem. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
These arguments don't help anyone grow.
wythie 4 years ago
No? Debate always helps.
kiriaka1972 4 years ago
Wow, am I ever glad we're civil. Scathingly beautiful. Not that I encourage this sort of thing...
;)
Have a great new year by the way!!
godlesswonder 4 years ago
You too. Have a riot if you can. Bring on 2008. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
Awesomeness!!
xJediHowieX 4 years ago
He did another video reply to THIS video.
Can't...resist. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
well spoken. funny that the guy didn't reply yet.
smiley290max 4 years ago
"No degrees of absurdity" - Well said.
mconn2112 4 years ago
very, very, very good stuff right here! nice
Deathless2288 4 years ago
I suspect that geerup does not deserve much more attention than you have already given him. Arguing with His disillusionment with rationality is analogous to explaining geological dating to a chimpanzee.
vintijborn 4 years ago 3
Agreed, but my words were never for him. They were for those who watch his vids (those few in the mood to think).
philhellenes 4 years ago
Hey Phil. What I can't believe is that,
A: Some people out there actually find Geerup funny and seemingly elightening (?)
B: Some people (such as Geerup) wouldn't believe a fish is a fish even if you slap them in the face with it.
To any Geerup-ites reading this, That last one, by the way, is a methaphor... *Just* in case you take that literally and argue that he actually would know if he was being slapped by a fish or not. You know exactly what I mean by it. ;)
razeezar 4 years ago 2
Notice, in GEERUP's response video, how he implies that challenging or critiquing GEERUP, is the equivalent of "sleeping" with the Devil. IOW, if you are against GEERUP, you are in league with the devil. I'm sure he actually believes that crap. What a fruitcake.
SecularNATION 4 years ago
Yeah I noticed I'd slept with the devil again. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
sad!
but thanks for giving me a lead to geerup.
4life2day 4 years ago
"you couldn't counter my points using logic, rationality, or evidence"
Of course he couldn't. He's not able to, and he knows it. And, his tactic of responding with "humor" is beginning to wear thin.
Phil, I'm replying here, to your above quote, in the comment section of GEERUP's response video, only because(surprise, surprise) the pussy has me blocked.
SecularNATION 4 years ago
geerup's reply to this is pretty funny actually.
quannump 4 years ago
At 7:08ish. You made a mistake. Infinite, when referring to time means no beginning OR end. You are think eternal, which is basically the reverse of the mistake that WOTM made in their absolutely terrible debate.
Infinite can pertain to things such as wisdom, presence, etc. as well, which I think is what GEERUP was getting at. In that case, we still are not infinite.
ThatChristian 4 years ago
One more problem. You seem to be addressing the plausibility of the Biblical stories rather than the actual question, which was actually God changing from the old to new testament. Admittedly GEERUP didn't do that either, but if you really want to rise above him, you may want to point that out rather than what you did here.
ThatChristian 4 years ago
Man turned to salt by a God who is all powerfull or a monkey ancestor turning into man by sheer mutations over and over... Hmmmm
Your right, Christians are unbelievable
knightswrath000 4 years ago
No Butchering in the NT? And what of Revelation?
5y54y6h 4 years ago
There is no 'butchering' in the new testament.
matros22 4 years ago
that last comment was to roevswade. The one before that was to parymich777.
bu1ckgnx 4 years ago
no worries bu it came in the right place :P
parymich777 4 years ago
Couldn't resist:
rozeboosje (8 seconds ago) Show Hide Marked as spam Reply | Spam Hey, Geerup. When one first loads this video it doesn't show the longwinded description. It just shows "I'm blunt". How apt. You certainly aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
rozeboosje 4 years ago
Wait a minute GEERUP believes that he was created by a master creator! You're the one that believe that you come from apes and chimps, so in this line up on stage of a master in an illusionist, you're the one that looks and acted more like the monkey becasue that where you think you have come from.
roevswade 4 years ago
Are you 5?
philhellenes 4 years ago
First, learn english. Then study ethics and morailty in philosophy to understand why actions can be determined through logic. Our primative ancestos have nothing to do with how we behave when thinking clearly. Only when we're not thinking do we resort to animalistic behavior. Just look at your own actions.
bu1ckgnx 4 years ago
Geerup believes without any evidence that here's a bearded man in the sky that scrutinizes his every move, and will torture 95% of all human beings in a scary dungeon after the day of judgment.
Philhellenes believes in a scientific theory that is backed up by mountains of objective evidence, and is responsible for many technological advancements that prolong our lives today.
So who's the "monkey" here?
MattressGallery 3 years ago 4
Oh man, you're right! The Lot story is telling readers not to be curious... I always new there was something off about the fate of his wife.
bu1ckgnx 4 years ago
it has nothing to do with telling people to not be curious. it hs to do with obedience, can anyone see the difference? lots wife KNEW the results of not doing what she knew she should be but she chose to ignore God's warning.
parymich777 4 years ago
But why was there a need for such a warning? What method of destruction was God using on Sodom and Gamora that would turn an observer into salt? Seems like God did it for kicks and not neccessity. If it's about obedience, the order was not to be curious.
bu1ckgnx 4 years ago
why was there need for such a warning? He didn't HAVE to give warning, but because He didnt want anyone to suffer and for all to have a chance He allowed them that and they STILL denied Him! How much more do you want? No, It wasn't just for kicks, it was just punishment, and he held off as long as he could...
parymich777 4 years ago