come on guys, "Gneisenau" main battle turret - gneisenau had triple-turrets, not twin turrets, so i guess the rest of the story is equally fake as this entry. hopeless nazi-dreamers ....
there would have been no hiding this beast from the eyes of the air forces and mosquitos would find this a beautiful and easy target indeed. they would have all been knocked out pretty quick.
whats sad is that people still don't realize the effectiveness of naval ARTILLERY GUNS not tank cannons, this is a moving artillery base, not a battle tank and the bomber problem... check out the back of that monster all those AA would kill an entire squadron of bombers in a few seconds, but Thankfully the Germans of the time didn't have the fuel or time to make this monster. good video by dah way.
@Altec492 AA armament was only 8 20mm cannon and from 2 - 4 15mm machine cannon. This thing would have been dead fast from medium bombers at low level or fighter bombers like the Typhoon or Thunderbolt. Didn't stand a chance.
there is... in an open battle is where this tank would excel. assuming it has all the parameters needed to compete with enemy forces then yes this tank would serve its intended purpose in an open area battle.
aircraft is the bane of any tank, there are many ways to counter this, one way was to extend the range of the anti-aircraft guns to a range where the attacking aircraft weapons would not deal any major damage. Another way is to fortify the armour of the tank so that the aircraft's weapons would be made useless.
The Rat, unfortunatly, is a solution with no problem. Nothing the Allies possesed would justify a 2x8 inch armament, considering a tiger gun could knock out any allied tank. Fortifications are better attacked with artillery. Plus there would undoubtably be a 'Project TomCat' that would knock this thing out with 1 mosquito. Think about the logistical train. And this thing would wreck any road it travelled on. As for Kursk, this tank would carry at max 20 shells for its main armament. No worry.
i think the its not a fact if it would have worked or not just seeing the thing on the battlefield would make commanders think twice before going in plus the fear of the tank crews who would have to face it...so just like most german "super weapons" it was meant to scare more than anything
There are people here that actually think this tank would work? *facepalm*
Overlooking the fact that the Germans couldn't even make the JadgTiger work (something about one 10th the size), this thing would be dead the moment the RAF found it.
@haduwolff sheared bolts in the suspension were solved? Excessive fuel consumption was solved? Inability to handle thick mud or weak bridges was solved?
@soundslave it was a prototype and thats why no one knew if it even was able to work btw JagdTiger did work it was too expensive so it was re made to be able to be affordable but then it never worked
Well, if there is one thing I hate to be, it would be the logistical/maintence officer for this deathtrap. Sure, you got heavy cannons, but good god, I can only imagine how painful it would be to load shells into the tank. Then there is the matter of repairing it and protecting it will all sorts of anti air. Then there is the matter of construction. I bet it would take at least half a year to produce this thing without the cannon.
soo, this illconieved monstrocity is basically a land battleship, ie would suffer from the same vulnerabilities as battlesips, the biggest of which is armour piercing bombs. this thing would probably get as much priority to be taken out as the Yamato, and the allies especially the russians would have thrown everything at it, providing it lasted more than 5 minutes successfully functioning, which i doubt it could.
Some of the most important questions I'd like to ask.
1) Suppose this monstrous vehicle sheds a track or breaks down in battle? What then? What can the crew do? Repairing or towing a small vehicle under fire is hard enough.
2) Due to the enormous size, slow speed, etc. it's just a question of time before enemy infantry starts climbing over the cruiser, placing explosives, etc. Can the crew inside just trust their armor? Having enemies sitting on your vehicle can panic even the best crew.
@monsterzeroJr i read about a tiger got stuck in sandy woods.crew had order to stay in until next morning until other tigers would come to pull him out.in night russians came,crawled around and on the tiger,crew still in there,staying silent....nthg happened..next day tiger got pulled out :P
@MrWilhelm76 Have you got a source i would like to read about this is sounds really interesting i done a very quick Google search but pulled up nothing :( Thanks
Very nice model. I like to see the bigger P1500 "Monster" version armed with 800mm "Dora" gun. I did a story about it in one of the Luftwaffe:1946 comics series over a decade ago.
We should make a tank 3x as large as the ratte would have been, give it a nuclear reactor so the damn thing wouldent have to have a gasoline refinery hitched to the back, give it anti-air ground-to-air missiles so that it wouldent get fucked up by some $500 dummy bomb, and you would actually have an amazing conventional weapon.
The problem is, if it was ever really made, it would probably sink through the ground, and get stuck. The suspension would break the moment it started driving, the tiger II already had large suspension problems due to it's weight.
And when it got stuck in some random placer for the 12556855th time, allied airforce would have it as a snack.
Hi, why should it sink through the ground??? The Panther had a groundpressure from 0,85 kg/cm² , and this is very good, better than the most modern tanks!
The MAUS will have a groundpressure 0,476kg/cm² (30mx7m=210m²) with 1000ts.
Maybe she is heavier, the groundpressure will not be more than Panther,Tiger & Co...
@13Psycho13 Because buldings are built in places that are suitable. Same as train rails. And you can't always choose your battlefield. Tigers were sinking in the Russian mud oftenly... True problem is that this kind of vehicle, wouldn't be useful in II World War maneuver battles, it can be easily targeted and disabled by airplanes. Also the resources needed to build it, could be used much better (producing normal tanks for example).
The problem of ground pressure can be addressed by lengthening the hull and widening the tracks. However, even with a low ground pressure most of the problems are unsolved.
If you want to see the operation of an enormous tracked vehicle see the tracked transporter that delivers the American space shuttle to its launch pad. This enormous lumbering vehicle travels up and down a specially prepared road, but there's no question of going cross-country.
@kaloan999 That will not really matter a lot. Fighter-bombers with rockets will attack it in a fast dive-motion sweep, preferrably out of a cloud, all against the AA guns. And IF the 8 AA guns are enough, artillery will cripple it, not even mentioning carpet-bombing, which on a target that large probably would have been accurate enough.
@RoranHawkins i don't think official blueprints would have been made without calculating if the tank would break the suspension, but yeah, a totally impractical but badass idea.
building a modern day p1000- Armor= Dorchester Level 2 on all sides top & under = too 1000mm Rh vs ke and 1700mm vs He in RH. ERA on open area of that armor. electric engines 20khp, with a sub nuke reactor. Replace the 2x 280 mm with 2x 32-megajoule elector-magnetic rail guns 200 mile range. replace the 1x 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 8x 20 mm Flak38 2x 15 mm MG 151/15 with a patriot MIM-104F (PAC-3) missile system. 2x Phalanx CIWS on both sides of turret and 2xSeaRam off rear end.
@starknight97 4x corner trophy active kill system. then 2 boxes of NLOS-LS XM501 on top of turret total of 30. Make her a mobile command center with sat up link too target objects 200 miles away like the FCS was originally was meant too. She be almost unstoppable. you need Icbm or a hole fighter wing too kill her.
@deathprize88 THen alex makes sure his P 1500 arty get built with the cannon dora a 800mm gun with 7 tons rounds it's start loaded and one shot the enemy team. when it hits the P 1000. Dora --> watch?v=xF8JhXJ8Aio&feature=player_embedded
haha which funny guythought "hey,we need to spray it in camo!!" did he think that would be effective? or is it just a tanks-have-these-colours-thing :D
war sucks but watchin tanks is sick sometimes.. was this really built and why did i never hearabout this purely idiotic hitlereske-megalomaniac thing in history lessons.....
This is an interesting question. The Rat is an kind of moving heavy battery, nearly like the heavy railroad-guns.
The DORA was never attacked from air, the Anzio-Annies (2x28cm K5) Leopold and Robert where never attacked. The two guns firing into Huertgenwald, the guns in the Normandy...all of them where not attacked during firing.
They fired day and night without camo.
Carpet-bombing was not very effective on small targets. I see the danger in fighterbombers and their rocket-bombs...
@haduwolff the DORA was never attacked by air because it had a whole anti air regiment with it with 2 ground regiments for ground support with a squad of planes for air cover. that's why DORA never got hit by planes because planes were suicide against DORA.
If I saw one of these things coming at me I would shit myself and run. The weapons and armor on this beast could conquer almost any situation. That being said, this thing would have had serious problems. It couldn't cross bridges, it would tear up roads, it'd be even slower than the Tiger II, almost unmaneuverable in combat, and if you could take out its escorts and get in close you could destroy it with explosive charges from the inside, not to mention it would be a bomber's dream target.
if it was actually created it would have been devastating, but it would only be able to participate in field/desert warfare since it would have been too large too go into cities/towns.
Hitler was realy crazy
Aliboy024 31 minutes ago
These are no "hopeless nazi-dreamers"-stories. These are enough facts about this monster, The middle-gun is extractet because the weight.
Crazy nazi-dreamers think about UFOs and other silly stuff....
haduwolff 3 days ago
come on guys, "Gneisenau" main battle turret - gneisenau had triple-turrets, not twin turrets, so i guess the rest of the story is equally fake as this entry. hopeless nazi-dreamers ....
lusankayasteaua 3 days ago
there would have been no hiding this beast from the eyes of the air forces and mosquitos would find this a beautiful and easy target indeed. they would have all been knocked out pretty quick.
mrisor892 4 days ago
НИХРЕНА СЕБЕ ТАНЧИГ
Zmejka13 6 days ago
If you can't beat it from land, bomb the fuck out of it from air. ;D
xCh34pShOtx 1 week ago
It's like Hitler's equivalent of the Death Star!!
monkeyattic 1 week ago
HITLER KAPUT !!!
imon421 1 week ago
whats sad is that people still don't realize the effectiveness of naval ARTILLERY GUNS not tank cannons, this is a moving artillery base, not a battle tank and the bomber problem... check out the back of that monster all those AA would kill an entire squadron of bombers in a few seconds, but Thankfully the Germans of the time didn't have the fuel or time to make this monster. good video by dah way.
Altec492 1 week ago
@Altec492 AA armament was only 8 20mm cannon and from 2 - 4 15mm machine cannon. This thing would have been dead fast from medium bombers at low level or fighter bombers like the Typhoon or Thunderbolt. Didn't stand a chance.
0341MarineInfantry 1 week ago
The final battle: Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte vs Chuck Norris.
TentacoloSquiddi 1 week ago
эм че за ебизм
Vadik1807 1 week ago
this needs to be a boss battle in some WW2 game
Slyzors 2 weeks ago
there is... in an open battle is where this tank would excel. assuming it has all the parameters needed to compete with enemy forces then yes this tank would serve its intended purpose in an open area battle.
TheLinuxteo 2 weeks ago
"That's no bunker...."
HAHA it has CAMO!
PinchySkree 2 weeks ago
I think if this had been made it'd be a target of heavy bombing, but then it'd be kept as a support/arty.
Riotmakertk 2 weeks ago
aircraft is the bane of any tank, there are many ways to counter this, one way was to extend the range of the anti-aircraft guns to a range where the attacking aircraft weapons would not deal any major damage. Another way is to fortify the armour of the tank so that the aircraft's weapons would be made useless.
TheLinuxteo 2 weeks ago
@TheLinuxteo
If they maybe could miniaturize the Wasserfall technology it would stand better against aircraft?
Imagine it having a guided rocket battery on the back.
melis256 2 weeks ago
Imperial Guard Baneblade, anyone?
Communismcomrade 2 weeks ago
ахринеть вот это заебись танк
anonimnyiable 2 weeks ago
I think, this monster is wellplaced at the eastern-front against Stalins troops. Endless wide open plains. Woods from horizont to horizont.
Only here the gun-range and the mobilitiy of this rolling fortress make sens. If...IF there are the romanian oilfields in german hands.
haduwolff 2 weeks ago 2
@haduwolff There is no place in REALITY where this tank makes any SENSE!
slitor 2 weeks ago
i would like to see this thing invading the welsh countryside! have you see how narrow our roads are between our steep hills?
RowanTaylor 2 weeks ago
Possible precursor to the Apocalypse tanks?
foamyfan211 3 weeks ago
железный капут бля.
BigGeorge237 3 weeks ago
are these real pics of a prototype or something?
XxSubZero13 3 weeks ago
The Rat, unfortunatly, is a solution with no problem. Nothing the Allies possesed would justify a 2x8 inch armament, considering a tiger gun could knock out any allied tank. Fortifications are better attacked with artillery. Plus there would undoubtably be a 'Project TomCat' that would knock this thing out with 1 mosquito. Think about the logistical train. And this thing would wreck any road it travelled on. As for Kursk, this tank would carry at max 20 shells for its main armament. No worry.
Debbiebabe69 3 weeks ago
this would have had so many mechanical problems.
Hitthat69 3 weeks ago
but guys think about this What if hitler did producted die ratte how would the war be??
choastech7 3 weeks ago
ja ja ist klar
7656ghost 3 weeks ago
I belive ,the main problem for this thing is the Engins. Moveing this thing is ..... + suporting it with fuel whoud be almost inposible .
mowtow90 4 weeks ago 2
@mowtow90
Yes, the support with fuel is it! But the engins? Slow running u-boat-dieselengines have enough power!
But the fuel..yes, thats the question.
haduwolff 4 weeks ago
i think the its not a fact if it would have worked or not just seeing the thing on the battlefield would make commanders think twice before going in plus the fear of the tank crews who would have to face it...so just like most german "super weapons" it was meant to scare more than anything
Gutenburg100 1 month ago
"Mammoth Tank assembled!"
tachikoma747 1 month ago
There are people here that actually think this tank would work? *facepalm*
Overlooking the fact that the Germans couldn't even make the JadgTiger work (something about one 10th the size), this thing would be dead the moment the RAF found it.
soundslave 1 month ago
@soundslave
The Jagdtiger works. In January 45 thea get new gearboxes, and then they work and do their job!
haduwolff 4 weeks ago 3
@haduwolff sheared bolts in the suspension were solved? Excessive fuel consumption was solved? Inability to handle thick mud or weak bridges was solved?
soundslave 4 weeks ago
@soundslave it was a prototype and thats why no one knew if it even was able to work btw JagdTiger did work it was too expensive so it was re made to be able to be affordable but then it never worked
walshi555 3 weeks ago
@soundslave The Jadg Tiger worked very well.
FusionCicada 4 days ago
nicely painted models btw..
LeLyonnais207 1 month ago
made out of paper???! nice work dude
Incubated81 1 month ago
Still can't believe those Panther Model F tanks were just mice compared to the Ratte...
RenerDeCastro 1 month ago
Well, if there is one thing I hate to be, it would be the logistical/maintence officer for this deathtrap. Sure, you got heavy cannons, but good god, I can only imagine how painful it would be to load shells into the tank. Then there is the matter of repairing it and protecting it will all sorts of anti air. Then there is the matter of construction. I bet it would take at least half a year to produce this thing without the cannon.
ForlanceAbice 1 month ago
soo, this illconieved monstrocity is basically a land battleship, ie would suffer from the same vulnerabilities as battlesips, the biggest of which is armour piercing bombs. this thing would probably get as much priority to be taken out as the Yamato, and the allies especially the russians would have thrown everything at it, providing it lasted more than 5 minutes successfully functioning, which i doubt it could.
bh5496 1 month ago
Some of the most important questions I'd like to ask.
1) Suppose this monstrous vehicle sheds a track or breaks down in battle? What then? What can the crew do? Repairing or towing a small vehicle under fire is hard enough.
2) Due to the enormous size, slow speed, etc. it's just a question of time before enemy infantry starts climbing over the cruiser, placing explosives, etc. Can the crew inside just trust their armor? Having enemies sitting on your vehicle can panic even the best crew.
monsterzeroJr 1 month ago
@monsterzeroJr i read about a tiger got stuck in sandy woods.crew had order to stay in until next morning until other tigers would come to pull him out.in night russians came,crawled around and on the tiger,crew still in there,staying silent....nthg happened..next day tiger got pulled out :P
MrWilhelm76 1 month ago
@MrWilhelm76 Have you got a source i would like to read about this is sounds really interesting i done a very quick Google search but pulled up nothing :( Thanks
BlueMoneyBalls 1 month ago
Wow, like a battleship on land, where can I buy?
Cyberwwwizard 1 month ago
ahahahhahahha.... yes toys fail.
Neyooostar 1 month ago
Very nice model. I like to see the bigger P1500 "Monster" version armed with 800mm "Dora" gun. I did a story about it in one of the Luftwaffe:1946 comics series over a decade ago.
CaptainNomura 1 month ago
We should make a tank 3x as large as the ratte would have been, give it a nuclear reactor so the damn thing wouldent have to have a gasoline refinery hitched to the back, give it anti-air ground-to-air missiles so that it wouldent get fucked up by some $500 dummy bomb, and you would actually have an amazing conventional weapon.
2142Unknown 1 month ago
see these then we well know why german lost the war? becuse they waste steel resources so much to make these shit!!
pzb1937 1 month ago
wow it is fake i didnt notice XD
gugugu133 1 month ago
The problem is, if it was ever really made, it would probably sink through the ground, and get stuck. The suspension would break the moment it started driving, the tiger II already had large suspension problems due to it's weight.
And when it got stuck in some random placer for the 12556855th time, allied airforce would have it as a snack.
RoranHawkins 1 month ago
@RoranHawkins
Hi, why should it sink through the ground??? The Panther had a groundpressure from 0,85 kg/cm² , and this is very good, better than the most modern tanks!
The MAUS will have a groundpressure 0,476kg/cm² (30mx7m=210m²) with 1000ts.
Maybe she is heavier, the groundpressure will not be more than Panther,Tiger & Co...
haduwolff 1 month ago 9
@haduwolff
Also, if the Ratte was supposed to sink, why haven't most buildings or large trains done that?
13Psycho13 1 month ago
@13Psycho13 Because buldings are built in places that are suitable. Same as train rails. And you can't always choose your battlefield. Tigers were sinking in the Russian mud oftenly... True problem is that this kind of vehicle, wouldn't be useful in II World War maneuver battles, it can be easily targeted and disabled by airplanes. Also the resources needed to build it, could be used much better (producing normal tanks for example).
Florek112 1 month ago
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monsterzeroJr 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@RoranHawkins
The problem of ground pressure can be addressed by lengthening the hull and widening the tracks. However, even with a low ground pressure most of the problems are unsolved.
If you want to see the operation of an enormous tracked vehicle see the tracked transporter that delivers the American space shuttle to its launch pad. This enormous lumbering vehicle travels up and down a specially prepared road, but there's no question of going cross-country.
monsterzeroJr 1 month ago
@RoranHawkins Not if the Germans really had control over the gravity.
Shredass 1 month ago
@RoranHawkins Yes they will get it as a snack if it didn't have 8 FLAK GUNS
kaloan999 1 month ago
@kaloan999 That will not really matter a lot. Fighter-bombers with rockets will attack it in a fast dive-motion sweep, preferrably out of a cloud, all against the AA guns. And IF the 8 AA guns are enough, artillery will cripple it, not even mentioning carpet-bombing, which on a target that large probably would have been accurate enough.
RoranHawkins 1 month ago
@RoranHawkins i don't think official blueprints would have been made without calculating if the tank would break the suspension, but yeah, a totally impractical but badass idea.
MrLOLTRAKTOR 1 month ago
Holy damn, nice job on the model.
Imagine this beast on the battlefield. Kaboom, frontline gone.
Grottgreta 1 month ago
Absolut grandios!!!!!
Amazing!!!!
EggiHL 1 month ago
The history Chanel called... they want their tank back.
r3darkness 1 month ago
Great Vid !
MP44StG44Page 1 month ago
I will make one of those my home someday. Best RV ever.
frobie54 1 month ago
building a modern day p1000- Armor= Dorchester Level 2 on all sides top & under = too 1000mm Rh vs ke and 1700mm vs He in RH. ERA on open area of that armor. electric engines 20khp, with a sub nuke reactor. Replace the 2x 280 mm with 2x 32-megajoule elector-magnetic rail guns 200 mile range. replace the 1x 128 mm KwK 44 L/55 8x 20 mm Flak38 2x 15 mm MG 151/15 with a patriot MIM-104F (PAC-3) missile system. 2x Phalanx CIWS on both sides of turret and 2xSeaRam off rear end.
starknight97 2 months ago
@starknight97 4x corner trophy active kill system. then 2 boxes of NLOS-LS XM501 on top of turret total of 30. Make her a mobile command center with sat up link too target objects 200 miles away like the FCS was originally was meant too. She be almost unstoppable. you need Icbm or a hole fighter wing too kill her.
starknight97 2 months ago
what happen when it appears on world of tanks?
deathprize88 2 months ago
@deathprize88 world of tanks teir 20 tank
punkhunter2 2 months ago 2
@deathprize88 THen alex makes sure his P 1500 arty get built with the cannon dora a 800mm gun with 7 tons rounds it's start loaded and one shot the enemy team. when it hits the P 1000. Dora --> watch?v=xF8JhXJ8Aio&feature=player_embedded
starknight97 2 months ago
@ Rachenwut no they wouldnt, allied planes would easilly destroy it and no mobility on certain places.....its a moving target
KiPKayfanatic 2 months ago
@KiPKayfanatic remember the p1000 had anti air cannons though so 100 would be enough. that with the Nazi airforce
starknight97 2 months ago
i like those toys!
300spartan0 2 months ago
100 of this tanks would destroy the whole soviet and allied army together!
Rachenwut 2 months ago
the picture at 1:40 really stands out
edike 2 months ago
I still see no point in putting battlecruiser guns on wheels
7ilvs 3 months ago
Great video -- but, in reality, why bother camouflaging it? Where the hell is it gonna hide???
Bravo22G 3 months ago 7
@Bravo22G Even aircraft carriers and ships are camouflaged. A large target can still blend in if its being seen a long distance away.
MrSkywalker113 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
Beautiful.
mojodevirus 3 months ago
Its funny because air raids would decimate it easily.
rsspartanz 3 months ago
men that is toys :)
wiebe1997 3 months ago
woulda been so badazz
PhildeKilla 3 months ago
Good photo set, dude!
adamantane1985 3 months ago
this Tank in France by D-Day. To fight again the Fleet
Karlowl67 4 months ago
this is one terrifying tank O_O i bet this was so hard to kill for the allies
batangyagit101 4 months ago
haha which funny guythought "hey,we need to spray it in camo!!" did he think that would be effective? or is it just a tanks-have-these-colours-thing :D
war sucks but watchin tanks is sick sometimes.. was this really built and why did i never hearabout this purely idiotic hitlereske-megalomaniac thing in history lessons.....
somehow it is AT-AT like
kotZe1337 4 months ago
@kotZe1337 haha yes you are right, its kinda like an at-at :P. No it was never build, that would be a ridicilous idea :)
Jur2225 4 months ago
the ratte rules ! they should still build one today
creativeprojects720 4 months ago
this is model lol fucking Deutsch
MrMilhard 4 months ago
This is an interesting question. The Rat is an kind of moving heavy battery, nearly like the heavy railroad-guns.
The DORA was never attacked from air, the Anzio-Annies (2x28cm K5) Leopold and Robert where never attacked. The two guns firing into Huertgenwald, the guns in the Normandy...all of them where not attacked during firing.
They fired day and night without camo.
Carpet-bombing was not very effective on small targets. I see the danger in fighterbombers and their rocket-bombs...
haduwolff 4 months ago 11
@haduwolff the DORA was never attacked by air because it had a whole anti air regiment with it with 2 ground regiments for ground support with a squad of planes for air cover. that's why DORA never got hit by planes because planes were suicide against DORA.
killer8479394 1 month ago
@killer8479394
Thats right,the DORA was very god protected, but in fact, the russians never FOUND the gun.
They attacked a fake-gun made of wood and canvas, but they never found the real DORA.
Captured russians told later, that they thought, the massive blows are coming from planes...
haduwolff 1 month ago
@haduwolff Thank you for knowing the correct answer, so rare on YT.
0341MarineInfantry 1 month ago
The main problem was that it would be super vulnerable to Carpet Bombers
RocketHarry865 4 months ago
The guns oft this type can fire every 17 seconds! The turret is from the battlecruiser "Gneisenau" ...
haduwolff 5 months ago 6
it would take forever to reload the rats guns
airplanef22 5 months ago
If I saw one of these things coming at me I would shit myself and run. The weapons and armor on this beast could conquer almost any situation. That being said, this thing would have had serious problems. It couldn't cross bridges, it would tear up roads, it'd be even slower than the Tiger II, almost unmaneuverable in combat, and if you could take out its escorts and get in close you could destroy it with explosive charges from the inside, not to mention it would be a bomber's dream target.
natopower1 5 months ago
Why bother even camouflaging it? You could probably see it from space!
Finkie147 5 months ago
@Finkie147 guess that was the point, to make the enemy shit their pants.
topperheartramada 4 months ago
Hi,
the monster must not go into cities, these guns can fire on the point 24 km (sea).
Remember the terror of the 28cm grenades in Anzio (same calibre on railway). If there is one "rat" at Kursk, the situation will be very different.
Thank your for your comment!
haduwolff 6 months ago 8
@haduwolff the picture is real?
delta72882 2 months ago
if it was actually created it would have been devastating, but it would only be able to participate in field/desert warfare since it would have been too large too go into cities/towns.
oh btw, first comment XP
GoldenEagle520 6 months ago