What Oliver Stone Really Believes

[edge78a]

Believing the WC is believing in a conpiracy,its just a theory, the official theory, In a court of law the WC evidence would have been insufficient to prosecute Oswald.

[zigdan]

you do understand that the film was just to speculate and question what was written in the warren report.

[cullinane8888]

vinnyvoom444 i agree with your coment

[FGTFJT]

Chief Justice Earl Warren stated: "Never in our lifetimes would we know the entire truth of what happened in Dallas."

[Obelisk2290]

you got that right

[blinkzone1]

so if that women said something like this.. "they killed kennedy cause he did so much for native americans" would u make such an ignorant judgement? stupid asshole...

[larry1369]

Speaking of ends justifying the means check out the W/C report. Why did they not investigate the Military intelligence Unit not being called up from San Antonio. How about the actions of the Secret Service charged with Kennedy's protection. Read Echo From Dealey Plaza to find out about a similar plot 20 days earlier in Chicago. You will never get close to the truth because you don't want to. The evidence of this murder and cover up is overwhelming. Very powerful people were involved.

[pajasa62]

Thanks for pointing out the Lloyd's of London nonsense.

Released to the public by the London Times...know what happened? That story was RETRACTED! Apparently the retraction didn't hold the interest of anyone the way the initial story did. (no surprise there). Why retracted? It was a statistically joke. Instead of "these NAMED people out of the US population dying in a given period ", it's appropriate form would be "these UNNAMED people in the WC index dying in a given period"

[pajasa62]

"You will never get close to the truth because you don't want to. The evidence of this murder and cover up is overwhelming"

Then tell me. How many people do you think were part of this JFK conspiracy?

[FGTFJT]

@pajasa62 TELL ME WHY YOU KEEP ON KEEPING A CLOSED MIND. HE WAS NEVER CONVICTED.

[pajasa62]

This is whay is so laughable about dealing with a conspiracy theorist. mentality.

They talk about being "open-minded"...a concept that applies only to them and people that think like them.

Your entire post:

"TELL ME WHY YOU KEEP ON KEEPING A CLOSED MIND. HE WAS NEVER CONVICTED"

So I guess using your "open-minded" logic...

John Wilkes Booth - no trial - no conviction - innocent.

Adolph Hitler - no trial -no conviction - innocent.

Suicide bombers - no trial - no conviction - innocent.

[pajasa62]

Funniest thing about Oliver Stones stupid movie is not that he just ignores the earwitnesses of the people in Dealey Plaza...136 heard 3 shots and only SIX heard 4 shots, but his nonsense included 3 top-of the line expert hitmen "a turkey shoot" as he calls it, and in 6 shots (TWICE the overwhelming consensus) 2 miss the car completely and only ONE, yes ONE out of SIX shots, from the expert marksmen, hit the target, JFK's head....but that doesn't matter Stone has tons of customers for that crap.

[larry1369]

So what's your point? LHO a poor shot by military standards achieved a feat that couldn't be duplicated by the best snipers of four countries including the marine sniper school instructors in Quantico VA..

[pajasa62]

"So what's your point?"

Either you didn't see the movie "JFK" or you didn't read my post....my guess, you didn't do neither.

[pajasa62]

"LHO a poor shot by military standards"

Yeah? Do you know that he reached the level of sharpshooter? Hitting consistently 48/49 out of 50 in a rapid fire setting more than TWICE the distance of the head shot. Know the source? His Marine Score Handbook sold by his mother to Dr. Charles Lattimer.

"best snipers couldn't duplicate"?

watch: A CBS NEWS INQUIRY: THE WARREN REPORT" (1967)(PART 4) -which even uses 5.6 seconds instead of the 8+ now widely accepted, even by CTers! (Zapruder 160 to 313).

[Sjoverne]

It's a movie for christs sake. Oliver Stone doesn't have to proof everything in it.

[pajasa62]

Yes, I know it's just a movie, but you have TONS of people that think that the movie accurately reflects what actually happened....THAT'S the problem!

[Sjoverne]

Well theres "TONS of people that think" that the Warren commission says the truth - which is just as unlikely ;-) Hopefully Stone has made some people be more critical of things that they are being told ;-)

[pajasa62]

"Hopefully Stone has made some people be more critical of things that they are being told"

You think that the ends justify the means in any situation, go ahead...as long as you don't have to sweat the details or actually KNOW about it, your fine.

The Stone movie was based on Jim Garrison's prosecution of Clay Shaw. Who was Garrison's star-witness in the real-life case? Perry Russo, who repeatedly failed lie detector tests. How many times did you see a "Perry Russo" in this movie?......ZERO!

[FGTFJT]

what a douchebag. you only see what you want to see. Open your eyes. Doest add up when they seal up Evidence for 75 Years. HELLO !!!!!

[Obelisk2290]

the files were released in 1992 ironically called "The JFK Act"

[larry1369]

I just bought the movie and watched it twice. 85 witnesses have been killed. Lloyds of London said the odds of these people with info about this case dying randomly is 3 billion to one. If you want to believe the Warren Report go ahead. I believe someone like LBJ convinced the Chief Justice that the Soviets were involved and this could cause a nuclear war if this was revealed. He was a man of character and would never let scum like Dulles lead him by the nose. Dulles was and is a traitor!!!!

[pajasa62]

You can watch the movie in slow motion if you like, but to be impressed by the acting of Kevin Costner and Joe Pesci is one thing, to swallow the nonsense involved is another. From distorting Ealene Roberts having cops "signaling" Oswald to Oswald's record as a sharpshooter to the deceitful IGNORING the people that ID'd Oswald at the Tippet scene and ignoring the incriminating evidence against Oswald. Yeah, it's entertaining, yeah you can speculate till doomsday, but that's all you have.

[FGTFJT]

@pajasa62 OK...NOW YOU ARE CHERRY PICKING AT THINGS. THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT THE LONE NUTTER BELIEVERS. SO MANY IMPORTANT **KEY WITNESSES WERE NOT CALLED TO TESITFY. THERE SO MANY HOLES AND LOOSE ENDS IN THE **OFFICAL STORY**. JUST BECAUSE THE GOVT PUTS A STAMP ON SOMETHING DOES'T MEAN IT'S TRUE.

[pajasa62]

"KEY WITNESSES WERE NOT CALLED TO TESITFY"

Curious how you only speak in a vague generality. When someone with an argument would cite an example or 2.

If I were a CTers I wouldn't either.

Because then they have to be confronted with:

People that suddenly emerged YEARS after.

People that had a sudden resurgence of memory sometimes months and years after they gave their initial story.

People that profited from paid interviews & book deals.

People that drastically changed their story.

[chngdwrld]

Oliver Stone is a good American.I'm proud ta say he tells truth the way it should be told.The best way we can see it for everyone to make up their own mind.

[blackfeatherarchery]

What ever the reason for the assassination it should have never happend!

[olragblues]

Come on man...this wasnt the reason!yes,he was against the vile segregation that was prevalent in the country at the time,and wanted equal rights for black americans,but it goes far far deeper than that.The outright crap that was the warren report should be enough to convince anybody.

[LiberalDemocrat83]

perhaps one of the reasons.

[Obelisk2290]

Absolutely correct Arron

[VinnyVoom444]

What is absolute BS is the Warren Report, and sheeple like you who try to discredit anyone and everyone who contradicts it.

[Shogo5000]

What I really believe : this vid is Bull*#%&