Cari ascoltatori, questa è una registrazione da studio, ....... sapete Voi che in studio di registrazione le note acute - SI bemolle, SI naturale, DO di petto - con moderni softwares, si possono "alzare" di 1/2 tono, anche di 1 tono e che gli stessi acuti si possono "allungare" a piacere ... ??? Diffidate delle registrazioni da studio, dove tutti i cantanti sono bravi, il vero valore di un cantante si misura solamente nelle "performances" dal vero, cioè in teatro, e lì molti diventano mediocri
I also wonder though, if classical tenors could sing above c? I think American Idol finalist james durbin even reached A which is so damn far from that C... but anyway, the technique is totally different so I cannot say that he does it better than pavarotti
@padillajoshua30 its not just that Pava could sing the high C but it is with the full support, ringing resonance, bell quality, and the seeming effortlessness of the note. Pava did have up to the F# but only sang it in the recording studio. He did sing the Db and high D live on occasion. For a high tenor to reach these notes is expected but for a lyric, and later in his life, a lyric/spinto, is amazing. Then to still be able to summon that ringing, high C well into his 50's
@appeace1 and even into his 60's is astounding! Even though, there are fine tenors today w/ loads of talent, there will never be; in my humble opinion, another to match Luciano Pavarotti;
@padillajoshua30 Pava did sing Db in live concert, and was from reports, the first tenor to sing F#, full voice, in recording an aria. However, due to his clarity, resonating, projection, even Pava's B sounded much higher than most other singers.
while I was listening to the end.. i checked the notes on a virtual keyboard application... and I'm pretty sure that the very last note was C#!!! check it
How do you know if your actually hitting C5 though? I'd think a reasonable number of people can sustain some sort of screech at that pitch; but what draws the line between singing high C and just making pitched sound at C5?
Again, excuse me all kinds of fanatics of other tenors. This is pure virile bel canto singing. This is as great as it gets. Those of you who don't hear , I really feel sorry for you. Can't hadle the role? Listen to his live renditions in San Francisco and Vienna during the seventies...
As to lowering, I know at least half a dozen recordings of Corelli, Del Monaco, lowering it by half and full step.What nonsense.
I'm curious, is it that rare for a tenor to be able to hit the C in full voice? (Or is it just the quality with which Pavarotti sings it that folks find remarkable?) I'd probably be known as a baritone and have never been satisfied with how high I can get in full voice since my voice changed around age 16, yet I can still do a solid G (only two and a half steps below the C)......
@kcmet79 It can't be said what voice you'll have, it depends how old are you, how you train and the teacher. Of course, it depends on you ability as well. Also remember, the voice keeps growing till 35 ;)
@kcmet79 There are a few baritone who can sing high C, too... It not exactly depends on what type your voice is. There are many tenors , who can't sing high C (or a few cant sing H) but despite it they are good. It depends on your timbre and in what height you can sing solidly. BTW I know personally a really good opera singer, who is mezzo-soprano, BUT... she sing alt and mezzo rules, and she sings high C, too.. :)
@kcmet79 - I would say that it is not rare at all for a tenor to hit a high C. It's what makes a tenor a tenor, the more developed and/or lighter voice will be able to do it easier than a tenor that has a big heavy weight to it. But Pavarotti was just a beaste. Hense the 14 second high C. Even for well trained tenors holding that note, that long, is an incredible challange.
@kcmet79 i think some voices just weren't meant to hit it in the pure chest voice. domingo doesnt, but he can still sing a c. he just sings the falsetto deep in his chest. my little brother can belt out a high c in his full voice in some sort of screaming/attempt at singing and hit the note clearly in what is definitly and unfortunately a "chest voice". and no he cant sing to save his life. im not even sure if florez does it in chest, since he has such a mix of registers from top to bottom
@viv3147 This isn't chest voice - it is full connected head voice. Don't confuse head voice with falsetto. For a more scientific description, look up vocal mechanisms M1 and M2. The full head voice high C to me, when I get it right, goes into a somewhat different 'space' (feeling wise). Little weight, but very resonant. Domingo really had no C in any way.
@kcmet79 The proximity of G to C is deceiving, my friend. A high C isn't all that rare for tenors, as most have to sing them at some point, depending on their repertoire. However, Cs as crisp and clear and uninhibited, and ultimately, beautiful, as Pavarotti's - they are quite rare indeed.
@ryaneffingbrock You are so right! Another thing that makes his high C's and recorded high D's and higher is to see this large man make those sounds with such a beautiful, round, resonating, brilliance---like the sun, as has been described repeatedly by others. One would expect the high C from Florez, or Brownlee since they are higher tenors, but from a lyric, spinto?? and to seemingly toss them off with ease, tho I think we all know its not, is absolute Pavarotti! There will never be another---
@kcmet79 It's very rare for any tenor to sing anything above a b natural in full voice. What tenors do above this area is use their head, or mixed, voice. They use both sets of vocal cords to blend the voices and hit higher notes. That being said, I'd say 50 percent of tenor arias require the high c. Almost all arias from the bel canto repertoire require high c's..and sometimes higher. Stuff by Puccini, Leoncavallo, Wagner, Verdi, Mozart..not necessarily.
How much poorer we'd all be if artists could not embellish the creative work of others for fear of tarnishing some abject notion of purity in the eyes and ears of fickle aficionados. The long C rocks my socks.
no wonder this singer is called the king of the high C's I mean this is really incredible !!!!!!!! What a breath control !!!!! What technique !!!!!! Phenomenal
tklogan11809... Verdi may not have meant it to be about a C he didn't (ostensibly) write, but the technique he displays by saying the 2nd syllable while holding that note is absolutely freakin' PHENOMENAL!
@puccinislarondine Not only to say the second syllable and retain the support and power of the note. but to close his mouth enough to roll the "R" also! He was the master!!
gorgeous and powerful of course, but Verdi didn't write that C and didn't intend to make the piece all about one single note, so I'm not sure about "if only could Verdi listen to him..."
Look who is talking! It seems you're an untainted idiot who also enjoys being a spelling Nazi. Time does wait for no man indeed. Read Puccinislarondine comment and learn something.
There's nothing to learn from either you or puccinislarondine, you two seem to know nothing about either Verdi or Il Trovatore but apparently LOVE to be thrilled by cheap notes, especially ones that don't belong in the pieces that they're being sung in.
The so-called single note in this particular aria happens to be the climax. So it does matter lots. If the tenor performs it poorly, nobody would care how well he sung what came before it. It doesn't matter much if it is a B or a C but it has to sound superb.
@tklogan11809 i enjoy the C but i dont think the aria is diminished at all by adding it. tenors never used to be able to sing Cs in full voice for one thing. i think the C actually suits the aria better anyway considering what its about. also i think verdi would have approved considering in most of the itialian music artistic license is permitted and encouraged. the time peroid and the style permit it even if the composer didn't expressly write it. by contrast you dont add to say mozart, etc. =)
@bigus I can sing a C in full voice and have seen it from all periods in classical music. Granted, I'm not usually called upon to do it, but I still train for the high C or D in my private course of study. In all honesty, the highest I usually sing is the B natural. Where tenors need work today is not really the high notes, but the lower notes. So many of my tenor colleagues lack energy in their chest registers. It's sad to hear a tenor sing NESSUN DORMA!......nessun dor.....and then fade out.
@ShamusMacGuffin i agree. the lower notes are the key to the higher notes, i can also sing them in full voice, but it wasn't until i learned to support the lower ones that these high notes came. vocalising up to G above high C is even possible now because of supporting the low notes, even though you never sing these notes. B is the best sounding note for any tenor i think even though i think it pays to have a solid C-D.
@ShamusMacGuffin I am technically what you'd call a baritenor or heldentenor. Because i never kept singing for years after my voice had broken, and i've only just discovered it at the last opportunity. i'm gonna have to spend years building up my higher range. I so wish that i sang earlier in high school, cause..who knows...i mighta been hitting Ds with you. I wonder if how you use your voice when you're little changes how it ends up? Or is it just predetermined?
Cari ascoltatori, questa è una registrazione da studio, ....... sapete Voi che in studio di registrazione le note acute - SI bemolle, SI naturale, DO di petto - con moderni softwares, si possono "alzare" di 1/2 tono, anche di 1 tono e che gli stessi acuti si possono "allungare" a piacere ... ??? Diffidate delle registrazioni da studio, dove tutti i cantanti sono bravi, il vero valore di un cantante si misura solamente nelle "performances" dal vero, cioè in teatro, e lì molti diventano mediocri
zuzzo7 1 month ago
@zuzzo7 Staresti davvero insinuando che Pavarotti sia un mediocre e usi in studio certi trucchetti? Smettila per favore, dai...
arcuz92 3 weeks ago
I also wonder though, if classical tenors could sing above c? I think American Idol finalist james durbin even reached A which is so damn far from that C... but anyway, the technique is totally different so I cannot say that he does it better than pavarotti
padillajoshua30 3 months ago
@padillajoshua30 Classical tenors can go upper than C, like D, E or F but it's very rare. Anyway, it happens.
zurriussII 3 months ago
@padillajoshua30 its not just that Pava could sing the high C but it is with the full support, ringing resonance, bell quality, and the seeming effortlessness of the note. Pava did have up to the F# but only sang it in the recording studio. He did sing the Db and high D live on occasion. For a high tenor to reach these notes is expected but for a lyric, and later in his life, a lyric/spinto, is amazing. Then to still be able to summon that ringing, high C well into his 50's
appeace1 2 months ago
@appeace1 and even into his 60's is astounding! Even though, there are fine tenors today w/ loads of talent, there will never be; in my humble opinion, another to match Luciano Pavarotti;
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@padillajoshua30 Pava did sing Db in live concert, and was from reports, the first tenor to sing F#, full voice, in recording an aria. However, due to his clarity, resonating, projection, even Pava's B sounded much higher than most other singers.
appeace1 1 month ago
while I was listening to the end.. i checked the notes on a virtual keyboard application... and I'm pretty sure that the very last note was C#!!! check it
padillajoshua30 3 months ago
His high C makes my ears orgasm.
Bremen25 3 months ago 3
How do you know if your actually hitting C5 though? I'd think a reasonable number of people can sustain some sort of screech at that pitch; but what draws the line between singing high C and just making pitched sound at C5?
LMaster1 3 months ago
@LMaster1 being able to do it with a beautiful and sustainable tone quality. that's why the whole world loves Luciano. :)
ryaneffingbrock 3 months ago
*chills*
iLuvTofu20 4 months ago
Again, excuse me all kinds of fanatics of other tenors. This is pure virile bel canto singing. This is as great as it gets. Those of you who don't hear , I really feel sorry for you. Can't hadle the role? Listen to his live renditions in San Francisco and Vienna during the seventies...
As to lowering, I know at least half a dozen recordings of Corelli, Del Monaco, lowering it by half and full step.What nonsense.
chaiter1 5 months ago 3
who r dose 2 dislikin idiotic suckers...
robinsamuel21 5 months ago
I'm curious, is it that rare for a tenor to be able to hit the C in full voice? (Or is it just the quality with which Pavarotti sings it that folks find remarkable?) I'd probably be known as a baritone and have never been satisfied with how high I can get in full voice since my voice changed around age 16, yet I can still do a solid G (only two and a half steps below the C)......
kcmet79 6 months ago
@kcmet79 It can't be said what voice you'll have, it depends how old are you, how you train and the teacher. Of course, it depends on you ability as well. Also remember, the voice keeps growing till 35 ;)
zurriussII 6 months ago
@zurriussII Do you know around when it's stops getting darker, or so?
MrAxSAP 4 months ago
@MrAxSAP Stops getting darker and becomes lighter? I suppose in 30-s or so.
zurriussII 4 months ago
@kcmet79 As a baritone, a G is relatively high for you.
Many don't get much higher than an Ab.
JulianComeau 4 months ago
@kcmet79 There are a few baritone who can sing high C, too... It not exactly depends on what type your voice is. There are many tenors , who can't sing high C (or a few cant sing H) but despite it they are good. It depends on your timbre and in what height you can sing solidly. BTW I know personally a really good opera singer, who is mezzo-soprano, BUT... she sing alt and mezzo rules, and she sings high C, too.. :)
bpetii1 4 months ago
@kcmet79 - I would say that it is not rare at all for a tenor to hit a high C. It's what makes a tenor a tenor, the more developed and/or lighter voice will be able to do it easier than a tenor that has a big heavy weight to it. But Pavarotti was just a beaste. Hense the 14 second high C. Even for well trained tenors holding that note, that long, is an incredible challange.
whatchamacallitful 4 months ago
@kcmet79 i think some voices just weren't meant to hit it in the pure chest voice. domingo doesnt, but he can still sing a c. he just sings the falsetto deep in his chest. my little brother can belt out a high c in his full voice in some sort of screaming/attempt at singing and hit the note clearly in what is definitly and unfortunately a "chest voice". and no he cant sing to save his life. im not even sure if florez does it in chest, since he has such a mix of registers from top to bottom
viv3147 3 months ago
@viv3147 This isn't chest voice - it is full connected head voice. Don't confuse head voice with falsetto. For a more scientific description, look up vocal mechanisms M1 and M2. The full head voice high C to me, when I get it right, goes into a somewhat different 'space' (feeling wise). Little weight, but very resonant. Domingo really had no C in any way.
colino72 3 months ago
@kcmet79 The proximity of G to C is deceiving, my friend. A high C isn't all that rare for tenors, as most have to sing them at some point, depending on their repertoire. However, Cs as crisp and clear and uninhibited, and ultimately, beautiful, as Pavarotti's - they are quite rare indeed.
ryaneffingbrock 3 months ago
@ryaneffingbrock You are so right! Another thing that makes his high C's and recorded high D's and higher is to see this large man make those sounds with such a beautiful, round, resonating, brilliance---like the sun, as has been described repeatedly by others. One would expect the high C from Florez, or Brownlee since they are higher tenors, but from a lyric, spinto?? and to seemingly toss them off with ease, tho I think we all know its not, is absolute Pavarotti! There will never be another---
appeace1 3 months ago
@kcmet79 It's very rare for any tenor to sing anything above a b natural in full voice. What tenors do above this area is use their head, or mixed, voice. They use both sets of vocal cords to blend the voices and hit higher notes. That being said, I'd say 50 percent of tenor arias require the high c. Almost all arias from the bel canto repertoire require high c's..and sometimes higher. Stuff by Puccini, Leoncavallo, Wagner, Verdi, Mozart..not necessarily.
incredulousG3 3 months ago
@operabeauty, you are absolutely out of your mind with that comment....
MrSammyscroll 7 months ago
he was a miracle.
allison9090 7 months ago
The only voice I ever want to hear singing this aria. Thank you.
shantibel 9 months ago
How much poorer we'd all be if artists could not embellish the creative work of others for fear of tarnishing some abject notion of purity in the eyes and ears of fickle aficionados. The long C rocks my socks.
Ursacke 1 year ago 2
Wow, I've been holding my breath without realizing it. Simply amazing.
Like a tsunami of warm honey.
LaughatNAZIs 1 year ago 2
@LaughatNAZIs Say that to the japanese... jajaja, sorry, no, I agre with you, it' amazing how he sang this piece
RAAMerisima 11 months ago
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StuartLou 1 year ago
whats the source of this recording ?
didiln 1 year ago
@didiln It was recorded commercially for Pavarotti. As for me, I bought a CD of him :)
zurriussII 1 year ago
this is a commercial recording. in person, Pav was simply too small for the role, with not enough heft, and also lowered this aria
operabeauty 1 year ago
@operabeauty I'd like everybody to have this kind of commercial arias.
zurriussII 1 year ago 3
@operabeauty too small? huhhh?
followthehatecrewild 1 year ago
@operabeauty Yes, the voice was too small, the body too big.
Melomondo 1 year ago
no wonder this singer is called the king of the high C's I mean this is really incredible !!!!!!!! What a breath control !!!!! What technique !!!!!! Phenomenal
thomassmile 1 year ago
Well, I want to hear it, and I'm glad it's there. Fantastic!!!!!
hornrimmedspectacles 1 year ago
He held the C because he could like no other and he brought Drama to it's knees!
Now, let's knock Brando for his ad libs... because he really distroyed the craft of acting.
Boy, the things people get hung up on.
starmanbridges 2 years ago
YES puccinislarondine,
Absolutely freakin' PHENOMENAL!
Bravo Maestro indeed!
Easy tklogan11809 Pavarotti brought joy.
starmanbridges 2 years ago
simply perfect
scafoidescafoide 2 years ago 6
tklogan11809... Verdi may not have meant it to be about a C he didn't (ostensibly) write, but the technique he displays by saying the 2nd syllable while holding that note is absolutely freakin' PHENOMENAL!
Bravo Maestro! :)
puccinislarondine 2 years ago 9
Agree.
zurriussII 2 years ago
you're making excuses for a note that wasn't written and sung by tenors just to show off, Verdi wouldn't approve.
tklogan11809 2 years ago
@puccinislarondine Not only holding the high C and adding the second syllable--but rolling the "R" while doing so!
What a man!
appeace1 4 months ago 2
@appeace1 lol
ThePuppysCookie 3 months ago
@puccinislarondine Not only to say the second syllable and retain the support and power of the note. but to close his mouth enough to roll the "R" also! He was the master!!
appeace1 2 months ago
gorgeous and powerful of course, but Verdi didn't write that C and didn't intend to make the piece all about one single note, so I'm not sure about "if only could Verdi listen to him..."
tklogan11809 2 years ago
Who gives a flying heck? Time waist or cares for no man.
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
Learn some English and some manners punk.
tklogan11809 2 years ago
Look who is talking! It seems you're an untainted idiot who also enjoys being a spelling Nazi. Time does wait for no man indeed. Read Puccinislarondine comment and learn something.
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
There's nothing to learn from either you or puccinislarondine, you two seem to know nothing about either Verdi or Il Trovatore but apparently LOVE to be thrilled by cheap notes, especially ones that don't belong in the pieces that they're being sung in.
tklogan11809 2 years ago
The so-called single note in this particular aria happens to be the climax. So it does matter lots. If the tenor performs it poorly, nobody would care how well he sung what came before it. It doesn't matter much if it is a B or a C but it has to sound superb.
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
@TheInquisitive4Ever agreed.
bigus 2 years ago
@tklogan11809 i enjoy the C but i dont think the aria is diminished at all by adding it. tenors never used to be able to sing Cs in full voice for one thing. i think the C actually suits the aria better anyway considering what its about. also i think verdi would have approved considering in most of the itialian music artistic license is permitted and encouraged. the time peroid and the style permit it even if the composer didn't expressly write it. by contrast you dont add to say mozart, etc. =)
bigus 2 years ago
@bigus I can sing a C in full voice and have seen it from all periods in classical music. Granted, I'm not usually called upon to do it, but I still train for the high C or D in my private course of study. In all honesty, the highest I usually sing is the B natural. Where tenors need work today is not really the high notes, but the lower notes. So many of my tenor colleagues lack energy in their chest registers. It's sad to hear a tenor sing NESSUN DORMA!......nessun dor.....and then fade out.
ShamusMacGuffin 1 year ago 2
@ShamusMacGuffin i agree. the lower notes are the key to the higher notes, i can also sing them in full voice, but it wasn't until i learned to support the lower ones that these high notes came. vocalising up to G above high C is even possible now because of supporting the low notes, even though you never sing these notes. B is the best sounding note for any tenor i think even though i think it pays to have a solid C-D.
bigus 1 year ago
@ShamusMacGuffin I am technically what you'd call a baritenor or heldentenor. Because i never kept singing for years after my voice had broken, and i've only just discovered it at the last opportunity. i'm gonna have to spend years building up my higher range. I so wish that i sang earlier in high school, cause..who knows...i mighta been hitting Ds with you. I wonder if how you use your voice when you're little changes how it ends up? Or is it just predetermined?
witness124 1 year ago
The best ever!!!!!!!!!!
andrejdimitrijevic 2 years ago
=] perfetto!
PallinaXD 2 years ago
Ufff...!!! The best!
QUESTANOTTE88 2 years ago 2