1 day ago PLZ DONT READ THIS.YOU WILL GET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY EVER OF YOUR LIFE HOWEVER IF YOU DUNT POST THIS COMMENT TO THREE OTHER VIDEOS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS .NOW UV STARTED READIN THIS NOW DUNT STOPTHIS IS SO SCARY.SEND THIS OVER TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN YOUR DONE PRESS F6 AND YOUR CRUSHES NAME WILL APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS.THIS IS SO SCARY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS..so sorry
I can't say I'm playing 'real' music, or what label I should attach to it. I play pawn shop rescue flutes, I've never had a lesson, and have no idea how to read music. Even with no definitive or documented skills, I get people that enjoy the music... I make a living at it... ergo, even musicians that arent really musicians can create really nice 'real' music... Be it in a concert hall, or in front of a starbucks
You are amazing! I'm a flute player too but I haven't picked up my poor instrument in FOREVER. You had inspired me! Tomorrow I start playing again! :) Thank you so much!
I wholly agree with you on the expectation for perfection. Any time a musician performs live, there will always be variations on how a piece is played or sung. Part of being a musician is the opportunity to grow, learn and change every time you perform.
I totally agree. For too long I thought I was a bad musician because i couldn't get the sound I heard on recordings. Yet sometimes the best musical is inspired by a "mistake".
I agree with your viewpoint, it's an analogist to a fashion model on a magazine cover who was heavily edited and it becomes a false and impossible standard to match naturally.
Hi Nina! I just started a youtube account and was looking for flutist and I came across your channel. Thank you for the "Real Flute Project" i am sure I will learn a lot from your channel. I will post a video response of a live performance I had a few months ago. - Glaicy Kelly
Nina thank you for clarifying your statement. I hope RI realizes that what are putting out there is mastered. When I heard, that a well known flutist still alive records in segments. I totally lost all respect for that man even though I have taken Master Classes from this man. I was very disappointed.
Nina, I am in total agreement with you. I used to get so fustrated with myself when making recordings. I just could never seem to get the "perfect" recording. Now I just do what I call the "single take": I practice the piece for a bit, then record, and that's that. Now I'm much happier with my recordings.
I'm not a musician, but just as a listener, I agree totally with what you're saying. I don't want digitalized perfection, I want to feel I'm listening to an actual human :-)
Thank-you for placing yourself on line. Sharing your knowledge is so very appreciated and very kind of you. I appreciate your breath and hope you continue to share always. I am a novice and share a song I played for a friend of mine from my Anasazi Native American Flute. Peace-n-Love to you always
Great input Nina, I completely agree... I've recently been experimenting with different types of flute playing and also with some different flutes I've acquired over the years & I'll definitely share my video with you all =) My vid is very raw and unscripted, I was just experimenting with beatboxing flute and I had to take a chance somehow so I decided to put it up online... and this has got me going and I have been coming up with loads of ideas for future videos!
I believe that real music has a few mistakes. That is what makes it perfect, the little things that musicians do. When they force "perfection" they take the music out of the music(if that makes sense). And music is much better live as well. When you record(even without that forced "perfection") then so much of the emotion, so much of the power behind the art is lost. The only way to have the true music heard is to hear it in person.
I agree with you 100%. To me, live musical performances should be like everyday conversations - some slang, some uhs, and "you knows"...those kinda things. I believe it keeps this art honest.
while i DID edit a little, you must understand how hard it is to play 3 instruments at one time, so I'm entitled X__x the second half is raw though. And I did add reverb just because my room swallows sound. If I recorded in my bathroom it would sound exactly the same though (I've tried!) I'dd never add something un-natural!
Yes! this is so true. I couldnt agree with you more.. I feel that being over perfectionistic with music is sterilizing music of the wonderful rawness and honesty that is what really connects performers and their audience together. I have been studying the shinobue here in Japan, and I really enjoy the shinobue partly because it is played with such rawness, which partly comes from the material it is made of (bamboo) but also from the philosophy and playing technique. bravo! thanks
first of all is the fact that we are not machines so we can make mistakes even if we are not supposed to and sometimes what really matters is the performance...i mean the feelings and emotions that you can put in the music, if i played flute i would put a video response to this video surely ^.^
You are amazing! I wish i could be tht great of a floutist. so far i'm just working my way up . School band isnt professional but one dsay i hope to be noticed.You Inspire me.
amen to that. As someone who loves music, but is FAR from perfect in my playing, I agree with everything you have just said. the beauty of music is not in perfection achieved through video editing, it is in the performance of the musician who has worked to learn a piece and is brave enough to play it, even though it WILL have mistakes. good luck with this project!
Love you Nina!! I always learn so much from your videos....as I don't have a professor right now!! Look how popular your YouTubing has gotten!!! Props!!! Love to study with you in person sometime! - Ryan
Great idea Nina! I haven't played my flute since High School. Joethemusician, you, and some flute beatbox videos on youtube have got me really tempted to dig it out and learn it all over again!
You know, I find this a very interesting thing going on.
I actually enjoy live performances a lot more compared to perfect recordings.
To me, it just sounds a lot better, and even mistakes here and there I like because it shows that they're human and that a robot or computer didn't produce that sound.
Nina, I like the very concept of your realflute project; that is, music should not be "distorted" by digital techniques to make it sound perfect. However, I still think that the idea of "perfection" is a very strong motivation for all musicians to aspire and practice for. Some maestros do sound perfect in both live and recorded performances.
But again, I agree with the intention of your project and really like your idea. Thanks !!
Your idea here about perfection (and studio editing) makes a lot of sense.
This idea of perfection has kept me from playing for others a very long time! (okay, I play guitar/sing, not flute, but same concept ~ but my daughter plays flute!)
Again want to thank you for this great idea. Will listen to your flute shortly and also talk to my daughter about this.
I too could post more~ even ask for some feedback. I've posted, but that was more for fun.
I've always been such a perfectionist I've been terrified to put my playing on YouTube for fear of a mistake! I shake in front of judges, what about a camera? Not to mention I don't have the best flute in the world...
BUT...I think I'll give it a shot ;-) Look out YouTube, you've just met another flutist!
You're right, you're totally right. I'll bet there isn't a single musician out there that doesn't make at least one mistake every once in a while. Things like reeds buzzing and key clicks only enhance the music's beauty in my opinion. It gives it some humanity. Imperfection is good because there's no such thing as perfect, and the cleanliness that some try to force recordings cuts out a lot of the goodness that you rarely hear.
Nina, indulge me and consider the opposite end of the musical spectrum and the Grateful Dead. Every single live note they ever played was captured by countless soundboard feeds. Not a single show was without a sour chord, someone coming in too early, or time spent deciding what song to play next! "Real flute" from ANY form of professional live music has helped me forgive myself my own embarassing mistakes. Right-on, Nina!
I'm not a musician, but there is a similar debate going on in the guitar world - the techno-perfectionists like Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani who also do impossible speeds - and those who go for feel - Hendrix, Zappa, Gary Moore. Analogue imperfections create a different FEEL which seems to be what you are going for here - very interesting.
I couldn't agree more, strav. Technical perfection (and guitar shredding) has robbed the soul from rock, and in my opion, has ground Jazz to a standstill.
Paco de Lucia, Al di Meola and John McLaughlin have speed but so much fire, grace and, er, soul? Esp McLaughlin - tho he seemed to get tired after Shakti. But these three together are staggering. Another great impro trio is on an album called Rite of String, with Jean Luc Ponty, Stanley Clarke, and Di Meola. Which also makes me wonder about the concept of UNREAL FLUTE - ie Nina playing flute electronically with array of distort pedals? That would give Galway something to think about!!!
I like your message in this video. Just like all images get airbrushed, all music gets quantized these days to make things "perfect". Our food and drinks also contain dyes like Red #6, for the same reason, appearance over substance. Back to music I really like the live concert experience for the natural sound. Studio versions get cleaned to the point that they become sterilized as the expression that might come across from a slightly sharpened or delayed note is regulated/removed by a machine.
Yes, I agree to a certain extent... but we all should aspire to perfection. Those old recordings from the 60s were most definitely not edited. People back then were expected to do things in just one take. Heifetz, Milstein, Rostropovich, Rampal, Rubinstein... I can go on and on. They didn't have the luxury of making mistakes and editing them out, and they also didn't have recordings of their peers to listen to and copy off of. They were just THAT good. No one seems to be at that level anymore.
Yes! I play euphonium but I totally agree! My past director was talking to me about "The Art is in the Error" at Solo & Ensemble. I was so upset because I messed up a note here and there, but I still got superior. She told me I did good and she said she didn't hear me make one mistake even though I thought I did. She even cried while I was playing! She also said if she wanted to hear a perfect solo she would listen to a chessy computer instrument recording. I totally understand now. (=
I play the flute and I love it. Watching you is just an inspiratin. I am currently doing very well. I am in all these big things for flute and I would love to get as good as you. Thank you for posting these videos. You are amazing!
I taught myself flute after playing clarinet for 5-6 years, and within weeks of learning I've fallen in love (I started on a Gemeinhardt 50series open hole flute. Openhole came naturally from clarinet.) I TOTALLY agree with your view on music. I have seen so many bands play metrically and it's boring. I prefer to listen to something that is developed and emotional than stark and metric. Soloists make the mistake of playing like a robot, or saying... "well the recording I have is so much better!"
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Of course we try to play the best we can, but if we all had to be play perfectly, every single time we play, we'd all stop playing -- which I am sure is not the point of the amazing gift we call music!!
Great insights- especially coming from a Mac user :-P Ok, I'll stop now. But really, you make some very good points about professional musicians getting into the trenches and establishing an overall "real" picture of music. Plus, I wouldn't have a SINGLE video on YouTube if I made them perfect because NONE of mine are! Thanks for all your hard work- I'm a fan!
i've recently wiped the dust off of my flute. and i've realized i'm good but i wish i was better. but i am really missing music! do you know any good websites where i can get good flute music from easy to difficult to begin practicing again??
i play my wood flutes everywhere..i be no musician i just be a voice in the wind....sometimes i record song once sometimes i play and record same song several times...my favorite places are a silo,a cave,a creek.......one thing about wooden flutes no matter where i go i can get a different sound...
you are so inspiring and right!! you said "i dont think it matters if i get a note wrong in a video" but you get themm all perfect anyway! lol. but that'ss the kind of perfection we should be aiming for, not digital pefection, that's fake and a lie. why lie?? i will send a video in a reply to this when my camera is working again (soon hopefully)
I completely agree your words are very inspiring and I am going to post a nice christmassy "Dance of the snowman" from the snowman as my piece of "real flute" playing because I do make mistakes in it but I think it is a great song and a joy for anyone to play or listen to! Merry Christmas!
your words were an encouragement to me. Thank you so much! And I've tried all the methods that you taught in your teaching video, they're all works on me! i'm so happy to find your video on youtube since i don't have any flute teacher. Thank you very much! ^3^
Anyone who ever played live, whatever is their style of music, knows what you're talking about. No studio recording will ever beat a good live performance. The beauty of it is in the discrepancies between what you expect and the musician's version, with all its flaws and qualities.
Right on Nina. I was at a piano recital and a newspaper reviewer was sitting next to me. She wasn't watching the pianist at all! She was following the music from the score on her lap. Looking for mistakes in the playing, no doubt, which she would refer to in her review later showing how clever she was!
Wow, that's so true! I look up to you, because I am a flutist [or is it floutist?] also, and I want to become really good, but it's okay if I'm not perfect. Just like you said.
This is an inspiring thought and I'm excited to take part. There is a sense of perfection that I look for in all my music. If I'm not satisfied with a recording, then I'll merely redo the performance until I'm happy.
With live shows and video recording, there is a sense of freedom that is seldom captured in CD's. And that is what makes this project so valuable. Yes we can be perfectionists if we want to, but every musician has to feel free in their art, and this project is helping to capture it.
Being a great musician is not "recover from a mistake" or "not doing mistakes"... it's more "using music to share a message" than other thing. Doing it with or without mistakes surely influences the performance... and, as anyone probably do, I prefer to hear messages without mistakes.
omg i totallllly agree. oh yeh iv got a Q how can we stay in pitch because my pitch changes, oh yeh is it possible for u to play 'francis borne carmen fantasie' coz im tryin 2 get to the con with tat piece can u please...
At last a musician who is down to earth!:-) I love it that you are so encouraging for those of us who may not be the greatest musician on earth but still play for enjoyment. Thank you!
I found this linked to a jeff williams video and to be honest I really needed to hear it, thank you. :) I was having one of those 'what's the point' moments.
But you didn't play! I was looking forward to hearing you. :) thanks again.
Hi Nina, I'm learning alone for now and found your VLOG on making sound very helpful... my sound is more resonant now. I have another basic problem and I'm sure I'm not alone. Tension, in either fingers or arms, I'm not sure which. Causing me to 'jog' the flute continually, and move it around on my chin, ruining my sound. I have to keep stopping and re 'placing' the lip-plate. I wonder if you could make a VLOG to help? Thanks.
Lesleyfx: Hi, I'll add it to my request list. It sounds like you don't have solid hold with the right hand and chin and balanced on left hand forefinger. Galway has a video on holding the flute on his website.
All mistakes can be resolved (if you can "listen ahead"), usually by bumping the note up chromatically (semitone), so that the original mistake - sounds like a non-mistake. (I think I said that right). This is the jazz perspective anyway ...
Hi, I don't really have a cam to post a video response but I can refer you to a couple of recordings that I enjoyed. Tell me how you liked them. They're by someone named Helen Mcgarr...type her in the search area.
Hey Nina!! I must say that you are really a big inspiration for us youngsters!! I am a 24 year old flutist but I play the treble and descant recorders and been doin so for several years and I have to tell ya that your vids about doubletounging and other videos is very nice... Keep trillin girl!!
hey! i'm glad to find others flutists. I've seen a few videos of you and you play so good. when i'd buy a videocam, i'll send you my flutist videos! wait me, please^^
I like your thoughts, live, real music has really gone to to wayside, and it is truly sad. I shall post a video as a response to this one, as requested:)
Nina I agree with you 100%. It's a similar situation in other mediums, like film. Listen to how horrible pop music has become. What happened to actually songs with parts, actually played by bands. You don't even need to know how to play anymore--you just need to know how to run "protools" or one of the latest ditigal recording softwares.
Some of my favorite recordings are loaded with mistakes. It sounds human!
I have posted a video of my baroque flute playing which is very far from digital perfection! Hope your viewers enjoy the great variety of responses to your request!
thanks very much for teaching me through the videos... I´m a piano player from argentina.
I´ve been playing the flute sincea couple years ago because I like it.
I was learning by my self and my sound was not bad... but now with the singing and playing thing, rolling the flute out and everything I sound much better.
Nina, I agree and have also experienced people's warped sense of perfection. I find pianists suffer even harsher criticisms particularly from performing well-known pieces. You should read the comments on the video I posted of Amy Cheng performing Rachmaninoff's 2nd piano concerto. They're unbelievable!
Hi mariocast: I love your youtube project! It is funny how many make comments in an off handed way almost in an effort to incite or join in "mass negativism" which I frankly think is an epidemic in our profession---maybe I should vlog about that!
Why is it that some musicians feel that being positive or enthusiastic makes you less of an "expert?" It all seems really childish to me. I believe I can maintain a high standard and still be a supportive colleague. I am enjoying meeting other like-minded artists through this project.
Thank you, I love your channel concept. I posted a video tonight before coming across you. I have thought across similar lines for a long time and maybe that is why I stopped practicing. I know too many musicians who have ceased enjoying music because they listen only for the perfection and have forgotten about the soul. I sent a video response with my playing on it. Thanks again.
I totally agree with you. I will try to post a video of myself playing; hopefully soon, once I get the right equipment. Once I do, i can't wait to hear what people have to say about my playing :D.
I agree with you totally, I went to my idol Pahud's concert last year, at the beginning he droped an octave then made some mistakes again, my heart sunk, you are right, we have been trained by CDs to expecting perfection. We are only human.
I agree with you on this! I have noticed this, hearing a piece on a CD I'd notice a sudden difference, like it was cut a bit. Being perfect is really in my opinion imperfection, I don't know why but hearing mistakes in pieces make it more exciting, more perfect in my opinion :] thanks for this video!
Chère Amie, je suis totalement d'accord avec vous. Ce que vous voulez faire est magnifique. Mais pourquoi uniquement des flûtistes? Je trouve cela d'une extrême lourdeur. Cela dit, vous êtes véritablement merveilleuse... Merci d'exister, chère Nina...
You're absolutely right, Nina! To be perfectly honest, my lack of video editing skills is what has kept me from posting more playing videos. As a professional flutist, I feel the pressure to be "perfect" all the time...well, who can blame me, I was trained that way, right?! But I AM going to post a video response to this, and I want to thank you for taking the pressure off all of us as a collective and reminding us to just have fun and share our skills with each other! ~Marissa
That is it Nina! Some people are not professional and all we wnat is shar aour video playing a tune on flute. I have seen your videos and I think they are very instructive. I cannot understand all you say ( Iam not good at listening) but I have tried. See you!
I perfectly agree with you...on everything you have said! It's not the mistakes that truly determines your level of playing...But the true musicianship you prove.
I will try to post a video some day. If I am able to, then I will be very happy to receive any constructive criticism and advice!
You are so right. I've heard a lot of pop singers singing live and they sound just ordinary. The main thing is to encourage each other and to have fun making music. Even the people at the top of music make mistakes. Before a singer publishes a song on a CD or a DVD, that singer has had to do 30 or 40 "takes" before they have it down right. So, like you said, let's just have fun and make music naturally.
It is all about the fire!! I could play note perfect but I would have to go slow and it would take the fun out of the performance. (at least for me!) I would rather crank through the repertoire than spend a year perfecting a piece. It would be cool to have someone edit out the wrong notes, but I agree with you - it takes away from the authenticity and human aspect of the playing.
you bloody fuck shot...y dont u shutup and play the music...bitch
kgsyed 9 months ago
you didnt even play your flute..why carry it?..
asian0girlxd 11 months ago
4 hours ago
1 day ago PLZ DONT READ THIS.YOU WILL GET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY EVER OF YOUR LIFE HOWEVER IF YOU DUNT POST THIS COMMENT TO THREE OTHER VIDEOS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS .NOW UV STARTED READIN THIS NOW DUNT STOPTHIS IS SO SCARY.SEND THIS OVER TO 5 VIDEOS IN 143 MINUTES WHEN YOUR DONE PRESS F6 AND YOUR CRUSHES NAME WILL APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS.THIS IS SO SCARY BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS..so sorry
sosickoflav 1 year ago
SUPER MARIO IS COMING (yessss my music will be heard)
TheFinalMapler 1 year ago
i miss my flute!!!! thanks for the inspiration ma'am:)
domotastic1 1 year ago
I can't say I'm playing 'real' music, or what label I should attach to it. I play pawn shop rescue flutes, I've never had a lesson, and have no idea how to read music. Even with no definitive or documented skills, I get people that enjoy the music... I make a living at it... ergo, even musicians that arent really musicians can create really nice 'real' music... Be it in a concert hall, or in front of a starbucks
SJFLuteGuy 1 year ago
you gonna play the flute or just hold it
nicknotorious1 1 year ago
You are amazing! I'm a flute player too but I haven't picked up my poor instrument in FOREVER. You had inspired me! Tomorrow I start playing again! :) Thank you so much!
moviebuff878 1 year ago
Love the proyect! I'll be sending my Video very soon!
lucasdegennaro 1 year ago
I wholly agree with you on the expectation for perfection. Any time a musician performs live, there will always be variations on how a piece is played or sung. Part of being a musician is the opportunity to grow, learn and change every time you perform.
kittikatt007 1 year ago
Hey! that was great!
jgloninger 1 year ago
Fluteist? I thought the correct term was flautist? Anyways, I agree with every she says!!
oscarlovesimsgames 1 year ago
I totally agree. For too long I thought I was a bad musician because i couldn't get the sound I heard on recordings. Yet sometimes the best musical is inspired by a "mistake".
SoonerNotes 1 year ago
I agree with your viewpoint, it's an analogist to a fashion model on a magazine cover who was heavily edited and it becomes a false and impossible standard to match naturally.
svEscapeVelocity 1 year ago
fair enough for amateur musicians, but if anyone pays good money to hear a professional, and hear a bad performance, they're bound to be pissed off!
jamesjonesrocket 2 years ago
Hi Nina! I just started a youtube account and was looking for flutist and I came across your channel. Thank you for the "Real Flute Project" i am sure I will learn a lot from your channel. I will post a video response of a live performance I had a few months ago. - Glaicy Kelly
glaicykellymusic 2 years ago
Nina thank you for clarifying your statement. I hope RI realizes that what are putting out there is mastered. When I heard, that a well known flutist still alive records in segments. I totally lost all respect for that man even though I have taken Master Classes from this man. I was very disappointed.
You are awesome Nina thank you
TheFluteMeister 2 years ago
Nina, I am in total agreement with you. I used to get so fustrated with myself when making recordings. I just could never seem to get the "perfect" recording. Now I just do what I call the "single take": I practice the piece for a bit, then record, and that's that. Now I'm much happier with my recordings.
DwayneBSapling 2 years ago
I'm not a musician, but just as a listener, I agree totally with what you're saying. I don't want digitalized perfection, I want to feel I'm listening to an actual human :-)
wdashwor 2 years ago
Nina: Do you reccomend that I also take a look at Sir James Galway or is he trash like the people of expertvillage?
SuperCraigm 2 years ago
did she call expertvillage uploaders trash?
bagOprions 2 years ago
no but they are. if you are using their videos to learn the flute stop now
SuperCraigm 2 years ago
most exspurtvillage uploads are a joke.
ClueLou 1 year ago
Thank-you for placing yourself on line. Sharing your knowledge is so very appreciated and very kind of you. I appreciate your breath and hope you continue to share always. I am a novice and share a song I played for a friend of mine from my Anasazi Native American Flute. Peace-n-Love to you always
LOVE2Flute 2 years ago
i love this i completely agree
teddytyphoon 2 years ago
I like what you said ..100%agree !!
zuantuba 2 years ago
STFU your putting me to SLEEP
DragonKnight53 2 years ago
Great input Nina, I completely agree... I've recently been experimenting with different types of flute playing and also with some different flutes I've acquired over the years & I'll definitely share my video with you all =) My vid is very raw and unscripted, I was just experimenting with beatboxing flute and I had to take a chance somehow so I decided to put it up online... and this has got me going and I have been coming up with loads of ideas for future videos!
fluteloose 2 years ago
You're awesome. When I get my flute back I plan to make a response.
NecroBoxProductions 2 years ago
I believe that real music has a few mistakes. That is what makes it perfect, the little things that musicians do. When they force "perfection" they take the music out of the music(if that makes sense). And music is much better live as well. When you record(even without that forced "perfection") then so much of the emotion, so much of the power behind the art is lost. The only way to have the true music heard is to hear it in person.
DjingoRango 2 years ago
GREAT COMMENT!!!!!!
motormanish 2 years ago
I agree with you 100%. To me, live musical performances should be like everyday conversations - some slang, some uhs, and "you knows"...those kinda things. I believe it keeps this art honest.
guinnb 2 years ago
99,998 views, lol so close
PianoPlaya123 2 years ago
just a question..i know it has nothing to do with this video but im just wondering...are you the one that play in the youtube symphony orchestra?
thetruenotamonkey 2 years ago
thetruemotamonkey: yes that was me in the YTSO.
ninaflute 2 years ago
I added a response ^__^
while i DID edit a little, you must understand how hard it is to play 3 instruments at one time, so I'm entitled X__x the second half is raw though. And I did add reverb just because my room swallows sound. If I recorded in my bathroom it would sound exactly the same though (I've tried!) I'dd never add something un-natural!
Rodier1128 2 years ago
Hi Nina!!! I'm from Brazil and i love to hear you playing your flute. (:
I begun playing flute some months ago too. I love your the classical songs but they are really hard for a beginner to play hehe.
Do you think you could recommend some nice songs for us beginners to play? They don't really have to be veeeeery easy, i like challenges too (:
Thanks Nina!!
hugo0br 2 years ago
u are so right,,about real flute...thank you for your comments..your a wonderul flutist and im sure a really nice person..thanks
markmando333 2 years ago
Yes! this is so true. I couldnt agree with you more.. I feel that being over perfectionistic with music is sterilizing music of the wonderful rawness and honesty that is what really connects performers and their audience together. I have been studying the shinobue here in Japan, and I really enjoy the shinobue partly because it is played with such rawness, which partly comes from the material it is made of (bamboo) but also from the philosophy and playing technique. bravo! thanks
mafurock33 2 years ago
Watching your videos, especially this one, makes me really proud to be a floutist. Love your work! ♥
Algaex20x 2 years ago
You are an Awesome Musician Nina <:-)))
sugarpacketchad 2 years ago
I really agree with that
first of all is the fact that we are not machines so we can make mistakes even if we are not supposed to and sometimes what really matters is the performance...i mean the feelings and emotions that you can put in the music, if i played flute i would put a video response to this video surely ^.^
Mammonthdesu 2 years ago
C'est toujours extraordinaire de rencontrer une artiste qui accorde beaucoup d'importance à l'enseignement de son art - chapeau bas Madame!
yhlafon 2 years ago
great vid, I've always thought the same thing about music as you do! Il'' put this one on my favs, and I'm not even in to flutes usually :)
Figgzn2a 2 years ago
You are amazing! I wish i could be tht great of a floutist. so far i'm just working my way up . School band isnt professional but one dsay i hope to be noticed.You Inspire me.
greeneyesoflily 2 years ago
props. i'll withhold my MIDI flute submission!
schmoyoho 2 years ago
mucho wiri wiri
isauhm2 3 years ago
amen to that. As someone who loves music, but is FAR from perfect in my playing, I agree with everything you have just said. the beauty of music is not in perfection achieved through video editing, it is in the performance of the musician who has worked to learn a piece and is brave enough to play it, even though it WILL have mistakes. good luck with this project!
ikillurobot 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Love you Nina!! I always learn so much from your videos....as I don't have a professor right now!! Look how popular your YouTubing has gotten!!! Props!!! Love to study with you in person sometime! - Ryan
fluteman999 3 years ago
Comment removed
fluteman999 3 years ago
Great idea Nina! I haven't played my flute since High School. Joethemusician, you, and some flute beatbox videos on youtube have got me really tempted to dig it out and learn it all over again!
trachalio 3 years ago
You know, I find this a very interesting thing going on.
I actually enjoy live performances a lot more compared to perfect recordings.
To me, it just sounds a lot better, and even mistakes here and there I like because it shows that they're human and that a robot or computer didn't produce that sound.
whoryhobopowers 3 years ago
Thanks for sharing.
It is great ideal to share flute music~
simson99w 3 years ago
Greg patillo is pro ;)
zBatboyz 3 years ago
Nina, I like the very concept of your realflute project; that is, music should not be "distorted" by digital techniques to make it sound perfect. However, I still think that the idea of "perfection" is a very strong motivation for all musicians to aspire and practice for. Some maestros do sound perfect in both live and recorded performances.
But again, I agree with the intention of your project and really like your idea. Thanks !!
dodddd29383 3 years ago
Wow Nina,
Your idea here about perfection (and studio editing) makes a lot of sense.
This idea of perfection has kept me from playing for others a very long time! (okay, I play guitar/sing, not flute, but same concept ~ but my daughter plays flute!)
Again want to thank you for this great idea. Will listen to your flute shortly and also talk to my daughter about this.
I too could post more~ even ask for some feedback. I've posted, but that was more for fun.
U R changing lives! Cool. George
gbwealthy 3 years ago
Nice! I'v already post mi video response!!
vmsomma 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
are you depressed ( the girl in the video )
awsomeking5 3 years ago
You're so damn right!
prantare 3 years ago
Your so right, Nina!!
NYCindustries 3 years ago
thank you for the video, 5+++++!!!, awesome!
ANTICHITASCIPPA 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this video! :D I'm now going to post a video of me playing the flute!
stephie2319 3 years ago
now that i thing of it...i think you're right about perfection... i realize that perfection is not in everyone so why expect so much of one person.
SenakuAruno 3 years ago
Hi Nina!
I've always been such a perfectionist I've been terrified to put my playing on YouTube for fear of a mistake! I shake in front of judges, what about a camera? Not to mention I don't have the best flute in the world...
BUT...I think I'll give it a shot ;-) Look out YouTube, you've just met another flutist!
MTMewMew 3 years ago
my violin teacher would stress the same thing all the time!
cmrsl 3 years ago
i agree !!!
killerfemmess 3 years ago
I agree!! Music become the art of cold perfection and displaced the emotion and the passion of the music inside the musician!!
Unfortunately you're very right... I hope this will change!!
Chopin1986 3 years ago
You're right, you're totally right. I'll bet there isn't a single musician out there that doesn't make at least one mistake every once in a while. Things like reeds buzzing and key clicks only enhance the music's beauty in my opinion. It gives it some humanity. Imperfection is good because there's no such thing as perfect, and the cleanliness that some try to force recordings cuts out a lot of the goodness that you rarely hear.
Cumul0Nimbus 3 years ago
I concur. Amen to that!
FrenchieChan 3 years ago
Nina - how about some UNREAL FLUTE? - ref response to dillwankster's comment below?!
strav12 3 years ago
Nina, indulge me and consider the opposite end of the musical spectrum and the Grateful Dead. Every single live note they ever played was captured by countless soundboard feeds. Not a single show was without a sour chord, someone coming in too early, or time spent deciding what song to play next! "Real flute" from ANY form of professional live music has helped me forgive myself my own embarassing mistakes. Right-on, Nina!
dillwankster 3 years ago
I'm not a musician, but there is a similar debate going on in the guitar world - the techno-perfectionists like Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani who also do impossible speeds - and those who go for feel - Hendrix, Zappa, Gary Moore. Analogue imperfections create a different FEEL which seems to be what you are going for here - very interesting.
strav12 3 years ago
I couldn't agree more, strav. Technical perfection (and guitar shredding) has robbed the soul from rock, and in my opion, has ground Jazz to a standstill.
dillwankster 3 years ago
Paco de Lucia, Al di Meola and John McLaughlin have speed but so much fire, grace and, er, soul? Esp McLaughlin - tho he seemed to get tired after Shakti. But these three together are staggering. Another great impro trio is on an album called Rite of String, with Jean Luc Ponty, Stanley Clarke, and Di Meola. Which also makes me wonder about the concept of UNREAL FLUTE - ie Nina playing flute electronically with array of distort pedals? That would give Galway something to think about!!!
strav12 3 years ago
Hi Nina
One of my friend recommend me to watch your video on youtube.
I totally agree with you that audience is disappoited when they hear their performer's mistakes in live concert. As i did that too.
Maybe I subconsciously expected my favorite
performer to be perfect, OR i was so accustomed to listen to digitalized music which is helped by computer, or the result of
overplaying. Thank you for reminding me of what real music is. Music doesn't need to be technically perfect as you said
perfum1211 3 years ago
Hi Nina!
Thanks a million for sharing with us your heart and experience, delivering such a good speech.
Carlo, Brazil
kaduflutist 3 years ago
this video is VERY inspiring
thank you so much
i hear recordings of orchestras playing chamber music and its PERFECT and when i listen to myself play, i put myself down until i get better
thank u so much
i'm gonna try harder to play better
CornPi 3 years ago
I like your message in this video. Just like all images get airbrushed, all music gets quantized these days to make things "perfect". Our food and drinks also contain dyes like Red #6, for the same reason, appearance over substance. Back to music I really like the live concert experience for the natural sound. Studio versions get cleaned to the point that they become sterilized as the expression that might come across from a slightly sharpened or delayed note is regulated/removed by a machine.
jayleeds2006 3 years ago
Hey Nina, thanks for your comment on my video. I'm primarily a saxophonist and I really appreciate your kind words. :-)
eddierichmusic 3 years ago
your videos make me smile with flutey smiles!
jhudspeth1 3 years ago
What a great idea to bring flute players together, and share our experiences.
idasynco 3 years ago
Yes, I agree to a certain extent... but we all should aspire to perfection. Those old recordings from the 60s were most definitely not edited. People back then were expected to do things in just one take. Heifetz, Milstein, Rostropovich, Rampal, Rubinstein... I can go on and on. They didn't have the luxury of making mistakes and editing them out, and they also didn't have recordings of their peers to listen to and copy off of. They were just THAT good. No one seems to be at that level anymore.
neverland147 3 years ago
i believe she is referring to modern day musicians.
shadowace32 3 years ago
Sir James Galway doesn't make mistakes in concert. :)
ephektz 3 years ago
i reaaaally enjoyed watching your videos here.. veeeery helpfull... HELPS A LOT ! =) thankssss ;)
chovaum 3 years ago
HI Nina
Thank you for start such a import space for flutist to share and communicate and opening a format that demistifies the playing process
hugs
David Suarez
classyflute 3 years ago
I agree! I sometime play a song 70 times before I get it right on camera! We do expect purrfection! Love your truthfulness!
AaronShaunBrennan 3 years ago
You said the 'M' word that people get slaughtered for dare they mention it under anyone's video on youtube. LOL.
I'm glad to hear you talk about real playing. You're an inspiration!
jannokas85 3 years ago
Yes! I play euphonium but I totally agree! My past director was talking to me about "The Art is in the Error" at Solo & Ensemble. I was so upset because I messed up a note here and there, but I still got superior. She told me I did good and she said she didn't hear me make one mistake even though I thought I did. She even cried while I was playing! She also said if she wanted to hear a perfect solo she would listen to a chessy computer instrument recording. I totally understand now. (=
tromboneteen13 3 years ago
Totally agree with you . :)
TimothySun 3 years ago
i'm actually a guitar player and just now picking up flute. but you are so so right about "real" music.
jbell59 3 years ago
yeah you really are right, and someone thats a flute player should look up to, and everything you said is right. thanks
fp3shb 3 years ago
I play the flute and watching you is an inspiration! You are amazing!
xxcornycoryxx5 3 years ago
I play the flute and I love it. Watching you is just an inspiratin. I am currently doing very well. I am in all these big things for flute and I would love to get as good as you. Thank you for posting these videos. You are amazing!
xxcornycoryxx5 3 years ago
I taught myself flute after playing clarinet for 5-6 years, and within weeks of learning I've fallen in love (I started on a Gemeinhardt 50series open hole flute. Openhole came naturally from clarinet.) I TOTALLY agree with your view on music. I have seen so many bands play metrically and it's boring. I prefer to listen to something that is developed and emotional than stark and metric. Soloists make the mistake of playing like a robot, or saying... "well the recording I have is so much better!"
DigitalCyanide 3 years ago
I wish we had someone like you for the sax...I play alto, so I guess I'm left out here!:'(
glindasgal 3 years ago
Just did it! Great idea. Thanks.
manariwa 3 years ago
Nina you are awesome!
vegas2kc 3 years ago
spoken like a jazz musician
whywhenwhatwhere 3 years ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Of course we try to play the best we can, but if we all had to be play perfectly, every single time we play, we'd all stop playing -- which I am sure is not the point of the amazing gift we call music!!
amusinggrace 3 years ago
great speech!!plus I agree on that!!now i'm gonna try!!:)
lee2young 4 years ago
now im going to do this. of course i dont play FLUTE but a picc. will cut it right?
Rodier1128 4 years ago
Im so happy ty find your project! It really got a smile on my face <3
Rosanna from finland
lupoevelyn 4 years ago
Great insights- especially coming from a Mac user :-P Ok, I'll stop now. But really, you make some very good points about professional musicians getting into the trenches and establishing an overall "real" picture of music. Plus, I wouldn't have a SINGLE video on YouTube if I made them perfect because NONE of mine are! Thanks for all your hard work- I'm a fan!
BenChanViolin 4 years ago
Well, I posted one of my pieces on youtube, it isn't perfect and I can play it much better, but it is real ;)
flowertjeO 4 years ago
i've recently wiped the dust off of my flute. and i've realized i'm good but i wish i was better. but i am really missing music! do you know any good websites where i can get good flute music from easy to difficult to begin practicing again??
tabatharoutt 4 years ago
i play my wood flutes everywhere..i be no musician i just be a voice in the wind....sometimes i record song once sometimes i play and record same song several times...my favorite places are a silo,a cave,a creek.......one thing about wooden flutes no matter where i go i can get a different sound...
greyxwolf 4 years ago
how would you actually post a FAKE flute video?
thewontonman11 4 years ago
you are so inspiring and right!! you said "i dont think it matters if i get a note wrong in a video" but you get themm all perfect anyway! lol. but that'ss the kind of perfection we should be aiming for, not digital pefection, that's fake and a lie. why lie?? i will send a video in a reply to this when my camera is working again (soon hopefully)
yanpan16 4 years ago
dear yanpan16: I am glad you haven't noticed any wrong notes in my videos but to my ears there are always little things I think could be better!
ninaflute 4 years ago
i know what you mean, i was in a competition once and i ended up winning but i honestly thought there were 1 million things i could have done better!
everyone said i did really well and they couldnt hear the mistakes but i knew there was a lot to improve.
for me theres always something i must do better at.
i think your playing is wonderful though, you have a really warm tone which is something i admire.
yanpan16 4 years ago
I completely agree your words are very inspiring and I am going to post a nice christmassy "Dance of the snowman" from the snowman as my piece of "real flute" playing because I do make mistakes in it but I think it is a great song and a joy for anyone to play or listen to! Merry Christmas!
flutesmurf24 4 years ago
Yep, I agree with this too
it's more honest
yuanofcruxis 4 years ago
Dear Nina,
your words were an encouragement to me. Thank you so much! And I've tried all the methods that you taught in your teaching video, they're all works on me! i'm so happy to find your video on youtube since i don't have any flute teacher. Thank you very much! ^3^
Angel (from H.K.)
tseangel 4 years ago
oh i will post a video! nice concept!
xallthatJAZZ 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Could've at least played something quick.
LastTaboo 4 years ago
Excellent theory.
Anyone who ever played live, whatever is their style of music, knows what you're talking about. No studio recording will ever beat a good live performance. The beauty of it is in the discrepancies between what you expect and the musician's version, with all its flaws and qualities.
Great job.
Cheers from France.
Fred.
freddh2 4 years ago
Right on Nina. I was at a piano recital and a newspaper reviewer was sitting next to me. She wasn't watching the pianist at all! She was following the music from the score on her lap. Looking for mistakes in the playing, no doubt, which she would refer to in her review later showing how clever she was!
dickdona 4 years ago
wow Nina, you really inspire me. I agree with you.
Shirley2007 4 years ago
Wow, that's so true! I look up to you, because I am a flutist [or is it floutist?] also, and I want to become really good, but it's okay if I'm not perfect. Just like you said.
Kagome811 4 years ago
YAY FLUTES
Nightfang101 4 years ago 3
This is an inspiring thought and I'm excited to take part. There is a sense of perfection that I look for in all my music. If I'm not satisfied with a recording, then I'll merely redo the performance until I'm happy.
With live shows and video recording, there is a sense of freedom that is seldom captured in CD's. And that is what makes this project so valuable. Yes we can be perfectionists if we want to, but every musician has to feel free in their art, and this project is helping to capture it.
sandman0277 4 years ago
Being a great musician is not "recover from a mistake" or "not doing mistakes"... it's more "using music to share a message" than other thing. Doing it with or without mistakes surely influences the performance... and, as anyone probably do, I prefer to hear messages without mistakes.
HugoSax 4 years ago
omg i totallllly agree. oh yeh iv got a Q how can we stay in pitch because my pitch changes, oh yeh is it possible for u to play 'francis borne carmen fantasie' coz im tryin 2 get to the con with tat piece can u please...
freakyretriever 4 years ago
At last a musician who is down to earth!:-) I love it that you are so encouraging for those of us who may not be the greatest musician on earth but still play for enjoyment. Thank you!
flutemuso 4 years ago 2
I agree completly, Protools is making music aseptic.
daigle65 4 years ago
I tip my hat to you
SHITTINGDICKNIPPLES 4 years ago
I found this linked to a jeff williams video and to be honest I really needed to hear it, thank you. :) I was having one of those 'what's the point' moments.
But you didn't play! I was looking forward to hearing you. :) thanks again.
TheAngryPirateSings 4 years ago
Hi Nina, I'm learning alone for now and found your VLOG on making sound very helpful... my sound is more resonant now. I have another basic problem and I'm sure I'm not alone. Tension, in either fingers or arms, I'm not sure which. Causing me to 'jog' the flute continually, and move it around on my chin, ruining my sound. I have to keep stopping and re 'placing' the lip-plate. I wonder if you could make a VLOG to help? Thanks.
Lesleyfx 4 years ago
Lesleyfx: Hi, I'll add it to my request list. It sounds like you don't have solid hold with the right hand and chin and balanced on left hand forefinger. Galway has a video on holding the flute on his website.
ninaflute 4 years ago
I agree 100% the real skill of a performer is not how many mistakes he or she makes, its how well they can recover from them.
1812Productions 4 years ago
All mistakes can be resolved (if you can "listen ahead"), usually by bumping the note up chromatically (semitone), so that the original mistake - sounds like a non-mistake. (I think I said that right). This is the jazz perspective anyway ...
jazzflutist 4 years ago
I wish I could..... but, I don't have the equipment.. but when I do, I'll be sure to do this.
diKsuomynonA 4 years ago
Hi, I don't really have a cam to post a video response but I can refer you to a couple of recordings that I enjoyed. Tell me how you liked them. They're by someone named Helen Mcgarr...type her in the search area.
jonhpf07 4 years ago
johnpf07: I've seen Helen's videos. She plays very well for such a young lady!
ninaflute 4 years ago
I'm not a flutist but I love your ideas about music. Thanks for the inspiration.
dillwankster 4 years ago
Hey Nina!! I must say that you are really a big inspiration for us youngsters!! I am a 24 year old flutist but I play the treble and descant recorders and been doin so for several years and I have to tell ya that your vids about doubletounging and other videos is very nice... Keep trillin girl!!
Tweeny83 4 years ago
Wonderful idea Ms. Perlove! I love discovering new musicians and I especially love the flute. I will be sure to look around more!
AnyaAngie 4 years ago
hey! i'm glad to find others flutists. I've seen a few videos of you and you play so good. when i'd buy a videocam, i'll send you my flutist videos! wait me, please^^
mv219 4 years ago
This is very inspiring!!! It's nice to know you are "REAL"!!!
bbflutequeen 4 years ago
I've already seen your videos. I find them very interesting, for all level of flutist. Thx
topolinik 4 years ago
What? Music should be human? With human flaws? Heretic!
Are you sure you want to limit the video responses to just other flautists? I'm sure there's plenty of imperfection elsewhere.
Thank you for saying what needed to be said. Now if I could only figure out the flaws in your playing that you refer to ....
MichaelofPortland 4 years ago
I wanted to ask the same. :)
What do you think about other musicians responding to your video? I play the clarinet and I'm thinking of recording me playing. :)
I'm not a professional clarinet player but maybe that's interesting nevertheless.
Appearia 4 years ago
Appearia: Feel free to send me your video of your REAL MUSIC!
ninaflute 4 years ago
ok. :)
First I have to get a camera though. xD
Maybe I can borrow my sister's. :)
Appearia 4 years ago
YES!!!! You are sooo right! As I ever knew!
Your descrived goals have been my motivation to go on youtube long ago ;-)
I agree totally!
Even (our) amateur music can be fun ! HAhahahaha!
lietzen 4 years ago
I like your thoughts, live, real music has really gone to to wayside, and it is truly sad. I shall post a video as a response to this one, as requested:)
Audiomancer 4 years ago
i think you're wrong that the burdon of living up to digitally edited masterpieces lays in the lap of the classical musician.
think how disappointed rock fans are when they find out that some people they look up to just cannot play their instruments worth a damn.
...but your point is right on the money.
dickravis 4 years ago
Nina I agree with you 100%. It's a similar situation in other mediums, like film. Listen to how horrible pop music has become. What happened to actually songs with parts, actually played by bands. You don't even need to know how to play anymore--you just need to know how to run "protools" or one of the latest ditigal recording softwares.
Some of my favorite recordings are loaded with mistakes. It sounds human!
ColoradoBansuri 4 years ago
Hi Nina,
I have posted a video of my baroque flute playing which is very far from digital perfection! Hope your viewers enjoy the great variety of responses to your request!
mistymango 4 years ago
Hello Nina!
thanks very much for teaching me through the videos... I´m a piano player from argentina.
I´ve been playing the flute sincea couple years ago because I like it.
I was learning by my self and my sound was not bad... but now with the singing and playing thing, rolling the flute out and everything I sound much better.
so thank you very very much!!!
joaqui721 4 years ago
Cool vid :o)
sarahflute 4 years ago
Nina, I agree and have also experienced people's warped sense of perfection. I find pianists suffer even harsher criticisms particularly from performing well-known pieces. You should read the comments on the video I posted of Amy Cheng performing Rachmaninoff's 2nd piano concerto. They're unbelievable!
mariocast 4 years ago
Hi mariocast: I love your youtube project! It is funny how many make comments in an off handed way almost in an effort to incite or join in "mass negativism" which I frankly think is an epidemic in our profession---maybe I should vlog about that!
ninaflute 4 years ago
(to mariocast part 2)
Why is it that some musicians feel that being positive or enthusiastic makes you less of an "expert?" It all seems really childish to me. I believe I can maintain a high standard and still be a supportive colleague. I am enjoying meeting other like-minded artists through this project.
ninaflute 4 years ago
Nina, thank you!
sin4x 4 years ago
tank you very mcuh
saintdracula 4 years ago
Thank you, I love your channel concept. I posted a video tonight before coming across you. I have thought across similar lines for a long time and maybe that is why I stopped practicing. I know too many musicians who have ceased enjoying music because they listen only for the perfection and have forgotten about the soul. I sent a video response with my playing on it. Thanks again.
patineuse 4 years ago
I totally agree with you. I will try to post a video of myself playing; hopefully soon, once I get the right equipment. Once I do, i can't wait to hear what people have to say about my playing :D.
-cheers!
metaltwin320 4 years ago
I agree with you totally, I went to my idol Pahud's concert last year, at the beginning he droped an octave then made some mistakes again, my heart sunk, you are right, we have been trained by CDs to expecting perfection. We are only human.
JSBHK 4 years ago
I agree with you on this! I have noticed this, hearing a piece on a CD I'd notice a sudden difference, like it was cut a bit. Being perfect is really in my opinion imperfection, I don't know why but hearing mistakes in pieces make it more exciting, more perfect in my opinion :] thanks for this video!
MiyokoxClarinetti 4 years ago
Chère Amie, je suis totalement d'accord avec vous. Ce que vous voulez faire est magnifique. Mais pourquoi uniquement des flûtistes? Je trouve cela d'une extrême lourdeur. Cela dit, vous êtes véritablement merveilleuse... Merci d'exister, chère Nina...
art6000 4 years ago
You're absolutely right, Nina! To be perfectly honest, my lack of video editing skills is what has kept me from posting more playing videos. As a professional flutist, I feel the pressure to be "perfect" all the time...well, who can blame me, I was trained that way, right?! But I AM going to post a video response to this, and I want to thank you for taking the pressure off all of us as a collective and reminding us to just have fun and share our skills with each other! ~Marissa
Intermezzo411 4 years ago
That is it Nina! Some people are not professional and all we wnat is shar aour video playing a tune on flute. I have seen your videos and I think they are very instructive. I cannot understand all you say ( Iam not good at listening) but I have tried. See you!
jcosouza2007 4 years ago
This is amazing ! Gutzy video. I admire that. I'm in.
fluteman999 4 years ago
I perfectly agree with you...on everything you have said! It's not the mistakes that truly determines your level of playing...But the true musicianship you prove.
I will try to post a video some day. If I am able to, then I will be very happy to receive any constructive criticism and advice!
remnantpark 4 years ago
You are so right. I've heard a lot of pop singers singing live and they sound just ordinary. The main thing is to encourage each other and to have fun making music. Even the people at the top of music make mistakes. Before a singer publishes a song on a CD or a DVD, that singer has had to do 30 or 40 "takes" before they have it down right. So, like you said, let's just have fun and make music naturally.
johnny102marvin 4 years ago
It is all about the fire!! I could play note perfect but I would have to go slow and it would take the fun out of the performance. (at least for me!) I would rather crank through the repertoire than spend a year perfecting a piece. It would be cool to have someone edit out the wrong notes, but I agree with you - it takes away from the authenticity and human aspect of the playing.
Love your flute playing too - awesome!!!!
jillyflower88 4 years ago