Inside Information - Native Dancer / Sagamore Farm

[horseeeeGirl]

my horse is related to him he is called forrest gump father zilzal mum mish mish :)

[bennyandhorses]

He is one of my racing hero. Thanks for sharing this video. I have also collected some great horse video in my favorites list.

[gmwwc]

He ran in first .

His get ran in first.

His grand babies ran in first.

What is no to to like?

The reason the babies break is because they are babies.

[skittlzandpotatos]

Hello. I'd like to add my two cents into this. Well, i'm gonna start by saying that Native Dancer DID NOTNruin Thoroughbreds. Yes, his blood's in 75% of 'em, but also are his relatives. So, maybe it's Geisha, his dam who ruined it?! And why do you pick him? He has really good bones, from what i know. So, lets say his dam has bad bones but his sire has good bones. Natve Dancer has good bones, also. But, since his dam didn't, it carried on in his blood. Now i don't believe that was true, but itn

[snnyjcbs]

Native Dancer is not to blame for the idiots that drank his line almost to death. As a Race Horse there were None better, had a ton of speed from his Mama and could carry it over a distance of ground. As a Sire?, hell he is the SIRE OF SIRES, so Limy, learn a bit about what you write so you do not make a FOOL out of yourself.

[MiriamFaye]

Native Dancer was a great racehorse and sire. Most of today's graded stakes winners have him in their pedigree. When one speaks of the great sire lines of Mr. Prospector & Northern Dancer, the "Gray Ghost" is there. He was the grand sire of the brilliant Ruffian.

I visited his son, Kauai King, winner of the 1966 Derby & Preakness at Sagamore Farm. Thank you, Kevin Plank, for restoring Sagamore to its former glory.

Again, Native Dancer is one of thoroughbred racing's greastest.

[MiriamFaye]

Native Dancer was a great racehorse and sire. Most of today's graded stakes winners have him in their pedigree. When one speaks of the great sire lines of Mr. Prospector & Northern Dancer, the "Gray Ghost" is there. He was the grand sire of the brilliant Ruffian.

I visited his son, Kauai King, winner of the 1966 Derby & Preakness winner at Sagamore Farm. Thank you, Kevin Plank, for restoring Sagamore to its former glory.

Again, Native Dancer is one of thoroughbred racing's best

[englishhorndude]

This horse is the kiss of death for the breed. The day he started to breed was the day the Thoroughbred began to die. He wasn't special in the least.

[LeeAnne151]

The founder of Under Armour, Kevin Plank, now owns Sagamore Farm and is restoring it. One of his horses won a Breeder's Cup race. Glad the old farm is being restored to it's former glory.

[crazyymac101]

I have native dancers grandson!!! and i miss native dancer so very much <3

[terrorizerr1]

like she is the only one!

[josbrighteststar]

@terrorizerr1 i never said she was. i was just commenting. jerk. :P

[terrorizerr1]

@josbrighteststar then u should said, i got one of his grand daughter, basic eng, jerk!

[josbrighteststar]

i have his great grand daughter! =)

[techblitz1]

the 2 stud champions native dancer and nothern dancer both decend from the most important sire of last century phalaris (b1913)

[mpeindms]

@techblitz1 --- Native Dancer wasactually sired by Polynesian out of Geisha (hence, his name - a name that was originated at a Bennett Cerf party). I am not at all sure that Phalaris was a sire of either Polynesian OR Geisha. My source was the Trainer of Native Dancer AT Sagamore Farms. I don't remember his name exactly but I think the Trainer's name was Winfield or something like Winfield. Northern Dancer came along later in the Native Dancer stud line.

[GBeret83]

Native Dancer, 22-21-1-0, only loss was a nose in the 1953 Kentucky Derby. Went on to win the Preakness, Belmont, Travers, Wood Memorial and many other big Grade 1 wins. And he is absolutely the most influential race horse ever as far as breeding goes. No horse has turned out more winners. A great many stakes winner's to date have Native Dancer somewhere back in their bloodlines. He's, without a doubt, one of the top 5 thoroughbred's in racing history. imo.

[mpeindms]

@GBeret83 I was priveledged to watch Native Dancer mated to some Broodmare. What a production. The "teaser" first ascertained that the Broodmare was ready and then dragged away unfulfilled (the Teaser was very unhappy with that). Then Native Dancer was led down to the Breeding Barn. Native Dancer was huge (big) in every conceivable sense of the word. I wish I had the foresight to write down the Broodmare's name so I can see what came out of the 1964 or 1965 mating.

[GBeret83]

@mpeindms, Rarely do you ever see a horse that's as equally effective in the breeding shed as he was on the racetrack, or vice-versa. Native Dancer was one of those rare specimens. Had he not been knocked around by Dark Star in the 53' Kentucky Derby. I'm convinced he would've been retired unbeaten. And what he went on to accomplish in the breeding shed speaks for itself.

[mpeindms]

@GBeret83 I was privileged to watch Native Dancer mated to some Broodmare. What a production. The "teaser" first ascertained that the Broodmare was ready and then dragged away unfulfilled (the Teaser was very unhappy with that). Then Native Dancer was led down to the Breeding Barn. Native Dancer was huge (big) in every conceivable sense of the word. I wish I had the foresight to write down the Broodmare's name so I can see what came out of the 1964 or 1965 mating.

[SnowFire337]

Native Dancer is in the bloodlines of a lot of great horses that went down. Ruffian, who was grand-daughter of Native Dancer broke down and recently I found that Eight Bells lineage show that she has Native Dancer blood on both sides of her family tree.

[viking1938]

Zenyatta also has 'The Dancer' in her bloodline. So good, so far. I'll bee watching her in the Breeders Cup. either one.

[drfager01]

his blood travels via mr. prospector ala raise a native. very prolific

[ksmsbballer14]

Native dancer was my horse's grandfather and we miss him very much and we are so thrilled about what a diffrence he made in your family's life

Thank you for taking care of him

[danielrpotter]

I have several horses who have Native Dancer on their pedigree's. And several years ago I was working on the east coast for a month and had planned to visit Sagamore Farms but it snowed that weekend. I never got another chance.  But I have as my computer wallpaper a picture of a beautiful gray mare, Geisha, dam of Native Dancer.

[kmnmiamisax]

That was a very nice video. I'd love to see Sagamore returned to its old form. It's a beautiful facility.

Too bad the Native Dancer line produces more horse injuries than any other.

[DANCERS1FAN]

The Native Dancer line "may" have more injuries than any other (have you researched this-do you have statistics to back your statement?) but if so it is likely only because his line represents at least 75% of ALL horses racing today. Therefore more injuries would stand to reason. He himself was NOT unsound if you read the history about him. There are also plenty of very durable descendants therefore it seems that statement is pure heresay...! He was a GREAT champion!

[techblitz1]

actually it would be 75 percent if you combine nothern dancer AND native dancer........the other 25 percent descend from the minor but still surviving lines of buckpasser,djebel,hyperion and the great man o war and some others on the verge of extinction

[VictorsChick4ever]

That's an awesome farm. O.o Believe it or not, I have one of Dancer's great-great grandsons. :)

If I got a hold of that place, it'd be a TB and mustang rescue. *wishful thinking* lol

[JetfireK]

Thank you, how delightful to listen to this young man talk about his family, his father's farm and the new owner restoring Sagamore Farm. Thank you....

[doggiesarus]

Good News for once!