Jeff Novick MS RD on being vegetarian

[DJsonnyANTWERPEN]

end weggies forget how much is our fruit end wegetables sprayed with pesticides !! end they think they can just wash it off onder water?!! wery stupid thing to say...... today NOTHING is healthy so eat what you want BUT in normal quantites.. grown person needs 300gramm complet meal...

[82Bdog]

@DJsonnyANTWERPEN WTF u saying?

[AFFIRMATIONS1]

THANKS SO MUCH !

[krisdoce]

Stop spreading lies about olive oil and do some research on true extra virgin olive oil. I'm sure your going to tell us that coconut oil is bad too! Stop spreading lies based on inferior products that are considered poison here in Greece. No one would argue with you if you stated the fact that the studies done were made with bad olive oil.

[shtewart]

@krisdoce That's ignorant. Olive oil is not healthy or not based on quality. It's not the quality. It's the fact that it is entirely fat, 14% of it saturated fat, with no nutrients other than fat. No vitamins or minerals beyond the smallest trace. Fat and only fat. And it is not needed and is bad for you. Even the finest most cold pressed extra virgin olive oil--all fat, unneeded fat, with no nutritional value.

You're a parrot.

[valgez1]

@shtewart You are dumb for saying this, HAHA!!! Typical american OMG FATS!!!

[valgez1]

@krisdoce Greece is one of the Olive Oil countries! I live in Israel and drive to an arab town to buy home made olive oil - so pure and authentic! Sure, the Americans base their research on bad olive oil - after all, how can US produce anything good in a food industry?, HAHA!!! It'd be correct to say that any "Made in US" food is poison, whatever it is.

[Lipitorforall]

A very un-scientific analysis. An American researcher found that in 1958, Crete (near Greece) had very healthy population. They only ate 3 tablespoons of Olive oil then, now they eat more - and it shows. Crete now is a more obese nation than the USA, and the mortality rates from heart disease is also greater. Do your research. Moreover, I take offense to your rather malicious and ignorant statement. Shalom!

[valgez1]

@Lipitorforall Do your research instead of taking offense. I do mean it, really, do your research, :-), the conclusion you brought is of a kind "Eating McDonalds hamburgers is bad, therefore red meat is bad" or "All people born in year 1852 and eaten cucumbers are by now dead, therefore cucumbers are deadly food". You really have to do your research better, and not just pick headlines, hehe...

[Lipitorforall]

A straw man fallacy? Gee, I've never seen that one before. Look, if you'll re-read my previous statement, you'll find research. Something you have yet to offer in rebuttle. My apology for being crude, I always take offense to ignorance. There is a direct link between high fat consumption and heart disease. Offer your own research to the contrary. Oh yes, you have...you aquire "pure" olive oil. Not the "bad" olive oil others eat-which has exactly what in it? oh yes, Olive oil. no diference

[valgez1]

@Lipitorforall Dude/s, I don't really give a fuck about your opinion, I just stated mine - you had a chance, now you either take it or miss it. If you wanna be a "mainstream" mob living in the world of mainstream dogmas, then be it - good for you as long as you feel good, the majority is almost always wrong, - either find your own away or go with the mob, you're obviously going with the mob. Paleo was never meant to be for everyone, and those who take it - win, you're not really obliged to.

[Lipitorforall]

And I don't give a fuck about yours either, I just stated mine :) goes both ways pretty easily - doesn't it? Now you make an another logical fallacy. If it's main stream , it's almost always wrong. Isn't your theory mainstream in most circles now? Don't really know what the fuck you were trying to say at the end, but it doesn't matter. You still appeal to no evidence for your assertions and your petty come backs are still lacking any substance. Public forum, free country "dude". get over it

[valgez1]

@Lipitorforall OK, if you don't give a fuck about my opinion, then why do you engage in the argument? Practicing "Logical fallacy" ? - Youtube is quite a "low end" environment for this, find the better one. I truly believe that you're dumb.

[Lipitorforall]

It's sad I have to explain this to you but, in a public forum the purpose is not to be concerned with convincing you of anything...it's to keep the novices from being duped by your error. I am was not aware that a public environment was supposed to be void of facts and logic. Your pseudo science health information is dangerous to the public and should not go un-challenged in a public forum. And I truly believe that you should return to school and take a class in nutrition and biology.

[Lipitorforall]

@valgez1 Because your statements are erroneous and I don't want others to be led astray by such un-qualified, outlandish claims. It's said I have to explain that to you - and as such you are not qualified to dictate who is or is not dumb. This is further vindicated by your lack of logic and scientific evidence. A public forum discussion is not necessarily to convince the opponents, but of the readers reading these comments. Understand now?

[82Bdog]

@krisdoce How bout you give some facts to back up your claim that olive oil is healthy instead of just saying he's wrong. He gives facts on why olive oil isn't healthy (it's just fat with barely if any vitamins and minerals). Stop being in denial. This guy(jeff novick) showed me alot of what I once thought was wrong too and he backs up everything he say with credible studies.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog FYI, there's no such thing as "Just fat", fats is an essential source of energy that kept people warm for millions of years. Animal fats is a product from which testosterone is produced. Olive oil when it is cold pressed and unrefined is a source of natural fats of highest quality with vitamin E, - there's low cancer incidence in Arab countries (they drink olive oil). I trust a thousands years old opinions and not some ignorant "Scientist" whatever university degrees he has .

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 So what? Just because "they drink olive oil" (if they do) doesn't mean that is why they have low cancer lol. What if they ate horse ass too would you think that horse ass is good because they ate some of it?? The truth is still that all the longest-lived and healthy populations ever studied all had starch as the base of their diet whether it was rice,potatoes,corn,etc. Oils are not necessary and can be a problem if the total fat in the diet gets too high as shown in studies...

[valgez1]

@82Bdog Wow! You surprise me big time. Actually, the studies show that the healthiest populations are those whose diet is the closest to the Paleo diet. I bet, you research is very biased, you picked (intentionally or unintentionally) the researches that were probably sponsored by the US agricultural lobby. Use cool, unbiased approach, find studies that researched primitive tribes, incl Eskimos, find anthropological evidence on the health of ancient people - you'll be surprised how wrong you're

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 No bias studies just the peer-reviewed ones. Example: okinawans-65-69% of calories came from sweet potatoes. LOL you paleo people are predictable and bring up the eskimos which if you look up "unbiased studies" you will see they had a very low life-expectancy and in the 30's. And don't bring up the Masai as their life-expectancy was in the 50's and they were shown to have artherosclerosis. You should look at actual peer-reviewed studies instead of cherrypicked studies of paleo crew.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog How many and what Eskimos studies have you actually read ??? Either stop trying to bullshit me and let's have an argument or just fuck off.

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 No bullshit the real peer-reviewed studies show that the eskimos had a short life-expectancy. Do some research on your own and stop listening to the bullshit coming outta these paleo gurus. Either way the longest-lived populations ever studies had starch as the base of their diet. Meat was a very very small percentage of their diet.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog Take into account high infant mortality, lack of medical services, and harsh living conditions in general, you will see what difference it makes. Do your research, look at anthropological studies. If you aim is to argue then let's leave it here, if you want to find the truth - do more research than just "reading headlines"

[valgez1]

@82Bdog And, also, Eskimos life expectancy is NOT 30 years old. Even 19th century studies show life expectancy above 40 years(incl child mortality) and remarkable examples of longevity (80 years). Also, it's a fucking scientific fact that human teeth and bones began to deteriorate some 10,000 years ago with the start of agriculture development. Also, there are studies done in respectable universities that define best human food as nuts, meat, and fish. Why don't you just do you research?

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 Really what studies? Sounds like your just parroting what you heard or read from someone else. Fact: the eskimos were not one of the longest lived populations or healthiest.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog Just do your research, do it diligently, without prejudice. You will find that starch based diets are, in fact, quite deteriorating for human health. Life expectancy is very tricky thing, very often misinterpreted. For example, stone age people life expectancy was low, but wait, so was the life span!!! 15 - years boy was a grown up man - hunter, unlike today's sissies. Their physical toughness and health was much better then that of the modern man, though they lived less.

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 Follow your own advice lol. You are just spewing more this primal paleo propoganda (b.s) that's all over the internet. Once again something you can't debunk is the longest-lived populations where diseases like heart disease and cancer were almost non-existent(the two biggest killers in the western world) all ate starch based diets. You clearly aren't reading independent peer-reviewed studies on the subject.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog Well, I'll tell you one last time - saying that Starch based diets are the healthiest is a complete scientific heresy. Paleo is what people ate 99% of their history, they were much healthier than all modern people (incl Japan, Hong Kong, etc...) If you compare modern USA vs Japan, then you're looking in the wrong direction. Compare in historical perspective. DON'T use life expectancy - it's irrelevant and here's is why, I'll show on the example of ancient people (see next) :

[valgez1]

@82Bdog 1) High children mortality 2) Harsh living conditions 3) No medical care 4) Scarce food (especially in the winter) etc... However, they were much healthier than modern people - don't take my word, find out yourself. You say Paleo is a propaganda ? How can it be? Agriculture was started just some 10,000 years ago (1% of the history) - Find anthropological studies on the quality of bones and teeth. I know i won't convince you, but you say is a total BS.

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 Yes until they got westernized they were much healthier. The okinawans had the centenarians ever studied (65-69% of diet-sweet potatoes). Yes you're right you can't convince me because the things you say I have heard before and is very weak and not evidence of anything. You still can't debunk that the longest-lived pop. all ate starch based diets.

[82Bdog]

@82Bdog had the Most centenarians ever studied.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog As i said, Life expectancy is irrelevant, you just cannot compare life now and some 30,000 years ago. So, would you just stop using it ??? Also, using Japan as an example of high life expectancy is not in your favor - they eat lots of raw seafood and raw fish - which is a .... Paleo ! raw fish and seafood are contributed to their health and longevity - do your research! The Japanese are not Net Rice eaters! Look further, start questioning what seems obvious to you - because it's not.

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 there you go again stating b.s. The okinawans before the 1950's at their healthiest (before becoming westernized) ate very little seafood meat was 5%or less of the diet. You clearly have not looked into this, and yes many japanese are rice eaters, but the okinawans chose mostly sweet potatoes. Yes I can compare life expectancy when the two biggest killers (heart disease and cancer) were almost non-existent in these people.

[valgez1]

@82Bdog And, again, you stubbornly put forth your BS ideas. Do you understand English ??? I am telling you NOT about Japan pre and post 1950, I am talking about the historical change in the diet, when humans started developing agriculture. Stop, think it over and them come back with fresh ideas.

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 LOL you have no real evidence that man ate "paleo style" either. Their has been more evidence coming out that shows grain consumption went back much further than 10,000 years. I get it though you read a couple of "paleo" books and now you think you got it all figured out. You still don't know of a population studied that had the lack of disease and lif-expectancy of the okinawans and that's just one example. The fact that you brought up the eskimos as an example shows your ignorance

[valgez1]

@82Bdog Well, then you have brain constipation because of eating too much rice, hehe...

[valgez1]

@82Bdog That guy, Jeff Novick is a stupido, just like you.

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 Wasn't sure,but now I know you are just another youtube troll since this argument was over 2 months ago and you came back to say something that makes you sound like a 5th grader. You're not thinking clearly you should eat some more carbs. Pathetic...

[valgez1]

@82Bdog You discovered that I am a troll ? Very high achievement for a carb eater like you ! May be we'll have a brand new evolution path - intelligence development based on carbs consumption :-)

[82Bdog]

@valgez1 yawn... another lame comment

[valgez1]

@82Bdog Of course, it sounds lame to you - anythings that doesn't deal with rice eating sounds lame to you you :-))

[Pitinginatay]

Hope this could be spread. 

[nEWwORLDhOARDER]

Jeff, this experience opened your eyes to processed food ... but my question is why did you then go to work for Kraft foods later in life?

[krisdoce]

he's a heathen thats why

[krisdoce]

He's an uncultured heathen thats why

[Iaganatzi]

@krisdoce As if today's culture is a prime example of how to live. Obesity ftw, eh?

[82Bdog]

@nEWwORLDhOARDER source?

[nEWwORLDhOARDER]

@82Bdog Jeff talked about his career at Kraft on a YouTube or Google video. Sorry, I can't name the vid but it was incidental to the subject matter he was addressing. I wasn't dissing Jeff. The dude is awesome!

[wangtangchangbang]

Gosh he's so good and his videos have so few views. I think about him every time I read a label.

[krisdoce]

He's a parrot - somethings he says are true but watch out this is the same guy that tell us that olive oil is bad bassed on one some studies done on inferior Olive oil. Take his as serious as a parrot/Monkey and do your own research.

[sakinehbs]

thanks .I wish all people in America watch what they put in to their mouth

[TheYonala]

Thankyou !

[kangarooelaine]

Jeff Novick is a a great resource of info about nutrition. His website: jeffnovick. com