Great stuff! Funny, I have a totally different approach to the modes, and so I found your methodology both different from mine and quite eye-opening since I hav always looked at them differently. Like some of the modal riffs you play! Ha, you should give everyone the disclaimer that learning to improvise riffs like that is NOT nearly as easy as you make it look! Keep it up man!
I guess I try to make people think it's easy so they at least try to progress in this area. Making good music out of it requires experience I guess. Playing on the bandstand night after night and not sounding like you're just practicing scales may be more difficult than I let on. Thanks for your interest.
@johnhguitar It works...watching you has given new life to my playing. I have been stuck in the pentatonic scale for too bloody long. Now I'm flirting with modes....which has lead me to to see all sorts of coincidences up and down the neck where scales collide. The guitarist out of Crowded House once said 'All you need is the major scale'. After all these years I'm seeing what he meant.
This is interesting if you already understand the concept of modes, but for a beginner it gets really confusing if you consider phrasing and accents and all that. I started out by learning the modes as scales, swapping out 2nds, 3rds and 6ths in the first place, and 4ths and 5ths as well after that.
I have aalllmost got this and it's eluded me for years, I looked at the Lydian video apart from this one and I thought the key of F was phrygian for the c major scale. When you went over phrygian did you play a relative minor of C wich is A minor and then just stick with F as it isinC?Cause I think the third chord would be C#minor in the A major scale!!! I'm goin nuts herexD See Dorian Makes sense...kinda? so it's just...wtf!!? I think if I knew my notes in every scale this would make more sense
I have aalllmost got this and it's eluded me for years, I looked at the Lydian video apart from this one and I thought the key of F was phrygian for the c major scale. When you went over phrygian did you play a relative minor of C wich is A minor and then just stick with F? Cause I think the third chord would be C#minor in the A major scale!!! I'm goin nuts herexD
This video is ver well put together. An easy way to explain modes, there are many ways to approach this topic and this videos nailed it in a very simple way.
Love you guitar tone, John - you're a truly gifted musician! Thank You for the lesson. I'm tired of my "boring" sounding major scale and blues scale solos. I've followed your lesson but now I just need to know how to apply these scales into a song context with my praise and worship band. Any additional ideas you''d care to share?
@anthonym612 hang in there and watch this video even though its boring, it will explain how to expand your improv. youtube.com/watch?v=E9T_p7h8vd8&feature=related
soo. say ive learnt all the modes in one key and i know that i can omve it up or down the neck but i just dont know WHEN or HOW to improv with them. what do i do? what mode do i choose for what key? help please?
So if I have a I-IV chord progression in the key of C (so C - F) and I want a spanish (phrygian)feel for that whole progression i would start playin an Ab major scale over the C chord and switch over to a Db major scale over the F chord? Is that correct?
You're correct but you don't hear C to F very often; C to F minor maybe. You could use your theory of changing scales to match the chords but you'd have to be tasteful to say the least. It would be a tough....
It's a good way to learn modes, the only thing you have to know is the major scale for any key everywhere on the neck. But I learned modes by a different way. Just with G key and play G ionian, A dorian, C lydian, B phrygian, D mixolydian, E eolian and F# locrian so the G major scale :D. After that you just have to transpose the scale and the key therefore B phrygian with E key is E eolian etc...
Thanks for a great lesson. One thing I am not too clear about. Say I want to play A Phrygian over an Am progression. I believe that I could play the F Major scale. But, do I start in F and resolve in A , or start and resolve in A, within the F Major scale.
Sorry for the dumb question, but I am new at this.
Thanks for putting these excellent videos on Youtube! I've been playing for many years, but never got into the modes - until now! You've managed to explain this in such an understandable way, it's a joy just to watch. You're one hell of a player as well! Please keep posting more vids, both reviews and playing tips. Thanks again!
ooooooo ok im starting to get it. I understand the modes in relation to the c major scale but Im having trouble relating the modes to the other major scales. this is probably a dumb question. but can you go ver that please?!! thx
If the lydian is the fourth of the seven modes and mixolydian is fifth, why do you play the E maj scale for the lydian mode and D maj scale for mixolydian? I would think it would be the other way around since the E is the fifth in the key of A and D is the fourth.
Play a G major scale against an A minor chord if you want to hear the A Dorian minor sound. The A Dorian minor scale is the same notes as the G major diatonic scale.
A Dorian Scale and G Major are NOT the same scales...
the have ALL notes in common...
but its not the same Scale... Sorry...
Imagen you start calling your Girlfriend ANJA... but her name is JANA... I don't think she will be happy just because the names share the same letters...
Am Dorian is one thing and G Major Ionian is another thing!!
Maybe this is just a misunderstanding? What I'm saying is that the notes or tones of the G major scale are the same notes and tones of the A dorian minor scale. If they're not I'm sure the world wants to know what you're talking about. Who cares what all this is called as long as you know how to find the notes and use them? They are not chicks. I have a question, 'Are you British?'
Oh God, the one place on earth I need to visit before I pass away, Germany. My ancestors are German and there's even a Countess Von Heussenstamm in Austria that I've yet to meet. Someday. Someday. Thanks for the comments.
Thanks for posting John, I've been playing guitar over 20 years, and I'm only starting just now to pay close attention to my scales and modes - I watch this video a lot to get a feel for the modes. Can feel a ton of improvement already!! Thanks again -
the augmented sound of the lydian mode is so beautiful. lydian and mixolydian both sound really good, but i suppose any mode can sound good under the right context
What I don't understand is why now you start backwards and in the previous videos you started forward , i.e. from the C Major scale you played an Eminor chord and you called it (and sounded) phrygian, but now you play the F Major scale over the A and again it sounds phrygian!
Wait, the third grade of the FMajor is A, so that's why!
You are doing exactly the same but in the opposite direction so given a certain chord you can rule out the different scales to get the different modes...
You want my lesson from 1972 I got at West LA Music from Tito? Half step whole step half step whole step for a dominant major.........Whole step half step whole step half step for a minor........????
i kno one day when i really get into modes im gonna need to come back here,this vid will be helpful
markway16 2 weeks ago
Great stuff! Funny, I have a totally different approach to the modes, and so I found your methodology both different from mine and quite eye-opening since I hav always looked at them differently. Like some of the modal riffs you play! Ha, you should give everyone the disclaimer that learning to improvise riffs like that is NOT nearly as easy as you make it look! Keep it up man!
ChiroVette 2 months ago
I guess I try to make people think it's easy so they at least try to progress in this area. Making good music out of it requires experience I guess. Playing on the bandstand night after night and not sounding like you're just practicing scales may be more difficult than I let on. Thanks for your interest.
johnhguitar 2 months ago
@johnhguitar It works...watching you has given new life to my playing. I have been stuck in the pentatonic scale for too bloody long. Now I'm flirting with modes....which has lead me to to see all sorts of coincidences up and down the neck where scales collide. The guitarist out of Crowded House once said 'All you need is the major scale'. After all these years I'm seeing what he meant.
wesmatron 1 month ago
This is interesting if you already understand the concept of modes, but for a beginner it gets really confusing if you consider phrasing and accents and all that. I started out by learning the modes as scales, swapping out 2nds, 3rds and 6ths in the first place, and 4ths and 5ths as well after that.
jb1563700 5 months ago
at 1:47 reminded me of George McFly lol
great vid though.
spoilt14 6 months ago
Did you play a G natural in about :48-:50? I mean it works by all means and sounds pretty but G natural isn't A major!!!!!xD
MrGutsy1200 8 months ago
I have aalllmost got this and it's eluded me for years, I looked at the Lydian video apart from this one and I thought the key of F was phrygian for the c major scale. When you went over phrygian did you play a relative minor of C wich is A minor and then just stick with F as it isinC?Cause I think the third chord would be C#minor in the A major scale!!! I'm goin nuts herexD See Dorian Makes sense...kinda? so it's just...wtf!!? I think if I knew my notes in every scale this would make more sense
MrGutsy1200 8 months ago
I have aalllmost got this and it's eluded me for years, I looked at the Lydian video apart from this one and I thought the key of F was phrygian for the c major scale. When you went over phrygian did you play a relative minor of C wich is A minor and then just stick with F? Cause I think the third chord would be C#minor in the A major scale!!! I'm goin nuts herexD
MrGutsy1200 8 months ago
3:29 'Round Midnight.
Bugera369 8 months ago
This video is ver well put together. An easy way to explain modes, there are many ways to approach this topic and this videos nailed it in a very simple way.
Two thumbs up!
hudsontoronto 11 months ago
so... would an A dorian be in the same key as G Ionian?
punkiassjunki 1 year ago
YES
johnhguitar 1 year ago
Love you guitar tone, John - you're a truly gifted musician! Thank You for the lesson. I'm tired of my "boring" sounding major scale and blues scale solos. I've followed your lesson but now I just need to know how to apply these scales into a song context with my praise and worship band. Any additional ideas you''d care to share?
anthonym612 1 year ago
Play what you hear within yourself. Do it enough and it will happen. Thanks
johnhguitar 1 year ago
@anthonym612 hang in there and watch this video even though its boring, it will explain how to expand your improv. youtube.com/watch?v=E9T_p7h8vd8&feature=related
Shi7Disc0 1 year ago
really useful lesson i thought the modes went up like g ionian A dorian and so on never seen it like this but im gunna learn this sounds awesome
kakashihatake1321 1 year ago
soo. say ive learnt all the modes in one key and i know that i can omve it up or down the neck but i just dont know WHEN or HOW to improv with them. what do i do? what mode do i choose for what key? help please?
punkiassjunki 1 year ago
Start by using a C major scale over a Cmaj Dmin Emin Fmaj G7 or Amin chords.
johnhguitar 1 year ago
So if I have a I-IV chord progression in the key of C (so C - F) and I want a spanish (phrygian)feel for that whole progression i would start playin an Ab major scale over the C chord and switch over to a Db major scale over the F chord? Is that correct?
ricomajestic 1 year ago
You're correct but you don't hear C to F very often; C to F minor maybe. You could use your theory of changing scales to match the chords but you'd have to be tasteful to say the least. It would be a tough....
johnhguitar 1 year ago
It's a good way to learn modes, the only thing you have to know is the major scale for any key everywhere on the neck. But I learned modes by a different way. Just with G key and play G ionian, A dorian, C lydian, B phrygian, D mixolydian, E eolian and F# locrian so the G major scale :D. After that you just have to transpose the scale and the key therefore B phrygian with E key is E eolian etc...
But I prefer your method.
c3rveja 1 year ago
OK, great, That now makes sense.
Many thanks
kenmerloo 1 year ago
Thanks for a great lesson. One thing I am not too clear about. Say I want to play A Phrygian over an Am progression. I believe that I could play the F Major scale. But, do I start in F and resolve in A , or start and resolve in A, within the F Major scale.
Sorry for the dumb question, but I am new at this.
Many thanks
kenmerloo 1 year ago
Resolve to the 1 b3 5 of the key is a confirmed option.
johnhguitar 1 year ago
STOP SHOUTING AT ME!!!
Lachy101 1 year ago
Probably the only modes lesson on Youtube that's got the concept of modes right, bravo.
alt9001 1 year ago
OMG I GET IT! Thank you! =D
codeman11845 1 year ago
Thanks for putting these excellent videos on Youtube! I've been playing for many years, but never got into the modes - until now! You've managed to explain this in such an understandable way, it's a joy just to watch. You're one hell of a player as well! Please keep posting more vids, both reviews and playing tips. Thanks again!
heartattackmack2 1 year ago
@heartattackmack2 Thanks you very much. You're making our efforts worthwhile.
My book "Guitar Workout" is loaded with tips about modes. Go to Amazon if you're game to purchase it. Thanks again.
johnhguitar 1 year ago
ooooooo ok im starting to get it. I understand the modes in relation to the c major scale but Im having trouble relating the modes to the other major scales. this is probably a dumb question. but can you go ver that please?!! thx
macalex1234 1 year ago
@macalex1234 Against a C in the bass; C major scale =C Ionian Major sound.
C note in the bass with a Bb Major scale= C Dorian minor
C note in the bass with an Ab Major scale= C Phrygian minor
C note in the bass with a G major scale=C Lydian major
C note in the bass with an F major scale= C Mixolydian major
C note in the bass with an Eb major scale= C Aeolian minor
C note in the bass with a Db major scale= Locrian minor
Keep the questions coming till you know. John
johnhguitar 1 year ago
what do you mean play the g maj with an A at the base?
macalex1234 1 year ago
Play the diatonic G major scale over an A minor chord and the sound you get is A Dorian minor.
johnhguitar 1 year ago
If the lydian is the fourth of the seven modes and mixolydian is fifth, why do you play the E maj scale for the lydian mode and D maj scale for mixolydian? I would think it would be the other way around since the E is the fifth in the key of A and D is the fourth.
tomthefunky 2 years ago
I'm also wondering why too. . . and the dorian. this confuse me. Dorian should be Maj scale played against Minor key 1 step above.
KayaButterBread7 2 years ago
Play a G major scale against an A minor chord if you want to hear the A Dorian minor sound. The A Dorian minor scale is the same notes as the G major diatonic scale.
johnhguitar 2 years ago
John,that hollow body sounds great!!nice axe!!
paraglidermx 2 years ago
A Dorian Scale and G Major are NOT the same scales...
the have ALL notes in common...
but its not the same Scale... Sorry...
Imagen you start calling your Girlfriend ANJA... but her name is JANA... I don't think she will be happy just because the names share the same letters...
Am Dorian is one thing and G Major Ionian is another thing!!
RUOCCOLOCO 2 years ago
Maybe this is just a misunderstanding? What I'm saying is that the notes or tones of the G major scale are the same notes and tones of the A dorian minor scale. If they're not I'm sure the world wants to know what you're talking about. Who cares what all this is called as long as you know how to find the notes and use them? They are not chicks. I have a question, 'Are you British?'
johnhguitar 2 years ago
Hi John.... jea you are right in this... No I'm not Brithish I'm from Germany-Bayern... Thanks for the Vids
RUOCCOLOCO 2 years ago
Oh God, the one place on earth I need to visit before I pass away, Germany. My ancestors are German and there's even a Countess Von Heussenstamm in Austria that I've yet to meet. Someday. Someday. Thanks for the comments.
johnhguitar 2 years ago
Thanks for posting John, I've been playing guitar over 20 years, and I'm only starting just now to pay close attention to my scales and modes - I watch this video a lot to get a feel for the modes. Can feel a ton of improvement already!! Thanks again -
megaladon73 2 years ago
Sometimes one tip can make your playing explode.
It's like 2x whatever you had before. Glad you like the segments. Thanks for the comments.
johnhguitar 2 years ago
Your guitar sounds beautiful :))
3rdeye47 2 years ago
Hi John,
I've been playing and trying and watching this video over and over again and I finally understood. Thanks, a million thanks for the knowledge.
Cheers man.
Testacabeza 2 years ago
hey John, good stuff. I just began wondering where you make these videos? it seems like a spacey room, is it in your home?
junka22 2 years ago
A friends home.........
johnhguitar 2 years ago
the augmented sound of the lydian mode is so beautiful. lydian and mixolydian both sound really good, but i suppose any mode can sound good under the right context
windmills20 2 years ago 4
great lesson! 5*
cebfolk 2 years ago
Incredibly helpful, keep those theory lessons coming!
skengeboy 2 years ago
What I don't understand is why now you start backwards and in the previous videos you started forward , i.e. from the C Major scale you played an Eminor chord and you called it (and sounded) phrygian, but now you play the F Major scale over the A and again it sounds phrygian!
Wait, the third grade of the FMajor is A, so that's why!
You are doing exactly the same but in the opposite direction so given a certain chord you can rule out the different scales to get the different modes...
Testacabeza 2 years ago 2
I think its coming together for me. thanks. screen illustrations help alot
grewejames 2 years ago
Really nice tone. Sounds so crisp and clean.
Splagl 2 years ago
the most useful guitar lesson i've ever had
darkender000 2 years ago 10
i find this so comfussing
guitarG321 2 years ago
go to the website and start at the beginning.
-jc
johnhguitar 2 years ago
hey john,way to go man,excellent illustration about modes...could you give an
inside on the diminished scale???
by the way, incredibly stunning solos!
Orionsglare 2 years ago
You want my lesson from 1972 I got at West LA Music from Tito? Half step whole step half step whole step for a dominant major.........Whole step half step whole step half step for a minor........????
johnhguitar 2 years ago
No
more on if you would use it , what ideas spring in your mind about diminished.simple as that
cheers
Orionsglare 2 years ago
awesome, thanks
v0lt35v 2 years ago