Liberty Movements in American History

[limeleaf414]

Thanks very much for sharing the great explanation about the liberty movements.

[cyrus79100]

"They were not very effective.." Because they were fucking morons. But when the rich decided to pretend that they had half a brain, because that would help them abuse the majority of the population, that was when they gained prestige for their bullshit. Libertarianism and conservatism are not ideologies, they are rationalizations for the absolute power of the wealthy.

[ihatemoses]

@cyrus79100 Actually, the STATE gave them absolute power. Don't forget it.

[Magicwillnz]

6:06 - 6:30 Is he trying to tell us that corporations don't fund right-wing think tanks? What a blatant falsehood.

[dannation1987]

@SurmountedbyScorn the split brain shows that the language center is in the motor cortex. then, when asked a question the brain answered with the available information, when information is incomplete (due to severing of corpus collosum) the brain makes up an answer. proving that all consciousness resides inside the brain, not an external I or soul. the fact that thinking is inside the brain does not have any bearing on free will. this experiment has nothing to do with your augment at all.

[dannation1987]

@SurmountedbyScorn your refusal to examine that video i sent you, or (less likely) your failure to understand it is now evident. liberty is the freedom to swing your fist as far as you want but your freedom stops where my face starts. freedom of speech is the right to question; politics, religion, role of state and any other ideas, its not shouting fire in a theater. content, not delivery. so no, liberty favors one who wants to sleep. your over simplifying to suit your preconceived notions.

[dannation1987]

@SurmountedbyScorn i told you im not going to engage in a pointless philosophy argument, libertairan ideas can be applied to the real world. if you disagree with that then address it in reality, the tangible reality people can appreciate. if you don't want to, like i said, thats fine but your not goint to get an argument here. we live in an era of mass popular politics and democracy. if you don't want to engage us on that level then go somewhere else because thats where the discussion is.

[dannation1987]

@SurmountedbyScorn next. what is a "computational module" ? because my 4 years studying cognitive psychology have never revealed any such nonsense. "I" refers to a much simpler idea then you are asking for, its simply the person, defined biologically not philosophically. next, no. one group having liberty does nothing to reduce the liberty of another(or another group), liberty is not an particle subject to entanglement (quantum mechanics). see this: watch?v=8z1buym2xUM

[dannation1987]

@SurmountedbyScorn your discussing philosophy, this is politics and economics. if you really want to believe that the inside of atoms is 99.9% empty (which it is) you can, but you can't use that information to make political or economic decisions. your not here to argue with anything your just being annoying. we made assertions; backed by logic, rooted in reality justified by the laws of cause and effect. if you think we are wrong, explain what superior option you have to offer.

[shamgar001]

@SurmountedbyScorn Liberty (as defined by virtually any libertarian) is the absence of coercion. The only way to deprive another group of their liberty is to coerce them, therefore one person having liberty cannot logically involve taking someone else's liberty away.

[Goohuman]

@SurmountedbyScorn Freedom is what you make of it. The important thing is that we have laws that restrict those that would take our core freedoms away from us. Those laws still exist in the US in spite of years of attempting to dismiss the Constitution. I think the US is the best chance freedom has for our children.

[adulby]

Stephen I heard you were doing some seminar in my town today but couldnt go because of school. Keep up the good work.

[god0fgod]

GDP is not a measure of wealth or happiness. You can't say people were worse off if GDP went down.

[dannation1987]

@god0fgod yes its a measure of both, higher gdp = more choice, more choice is more freedom. freedom is better. more freedom is more better.

[god0fgod]

@dannation1987 GDP is an estimate of total revenues, not "choice".

[dannation1987]

@god0fgod but it results in more choice.

[yakyakyak69]

Progressivism / Liberalism / Statism advocates change or reform through GOV'T action.

Give ANY politician or bureaucrat the power to "redistribute & regulate" OTHER people’s money & choices and they will ALWAYS legislate to benefit THEIR “special interest” campaign backers; Banks, Wall Street, Military-Industrial Complex, Marxist Unions, Giant "Green" Corps, Big Oil, Pharma, Insurance etc.

Statism = Corrupt Political Cronyism.

The Fed’s FIAT (counterfeit) debt-currency FUELS THE FIRE!

[classiclibertarian]

@yakyakyak69 Right on!

[dannation1987]

@RevolutionNewsDotUS2 as annoying as this comment is, can people please stop calling things spam just because you don't like them? spam is advertising, this guy is just annoying. shuting him up with the spam block is still censorship. and to you revloution news

"i don't agree with a word you say, but i will defend with my life your right to say it" ~ Voltair.

[dannation1987]

@RevolutionNewsDotUS2 i agree with the responsibility to question one, but patriotism is often just blind nationalism. if you believe that your patriotism is in veneration of ideas like reason, multiculturalism, freedom ect. then why not appeal to them directly? patriotism can often be construed to be exactly the opposite of what you believe in. outside of the usa, anyone who is an "american patriot" is (perceived to be) someone who supports Israel, iraq war and meddling in the middle east.

[RevolutionNewsDotUS2]

@dannation1987 I am not a patriot for the corporate scum of the fascist states of america... I agree with our the likes of ron paul, ventura, griffin, ray mcgovern, tarpley... gerald celente... and all the other REAL defenders of freedom...

don't be just another american willfully ignorant of the red white and blue dick being shoved up your ass as the late george carlin mentioned years ago!

[kriskats19]

@RevolutionNewsDotUS2 Don't blame the corporations that play the game, blame the referee aka Government. The corporations just compete for your business. You don't have to buy anything from them. The Government is all powerful though and grants certain corporations privileges that allow them to become the behemoths that they are. We need to fix the system rather than 1 or 2 corporations.

[RevolutionNewsDotUS2]

@kriskats19 it's the corporations who put their pals in office... it's the corporations and banksters who write the laws!

[kriskats19]

@RevolutionNewsDotUS2 No, the voters put them in office. Corporations might have lobby powers, but it is up to the people to demand new legislation to get rid of lobbyists. I know the people aren't very forceful in this, but they should be. The corporations are forced to protect their interests because that is how the game is structured. We need a fairer structure that doesn't give favors to one particular company.

[RevolutionNewsDotUS2]

@kriskats19 who put bush in office?

watch?v=GSEOd1W3fZA