Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. ................Hos 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
I will say this last thing. If all this historical evidence does NOT get you to believe that Yeshua existed then you are a FOOL, PERIOD! You can chop up all the scriptures you want. But, no person in his right mind, with the saturation of the historicity of a man named Yeshua of Nazareth, would deny that he ever existed! Matter of fact, there is MORE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS that give a testament of Yeshua than any other historical FACT in the WORLD! PERIOD!!!!
[5] ‘For Acts the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming. Yet Acts is, in simple terms and judged externally, no less of a propaganda narrative than the Gospels, liable to similar distortions. But any attempt to reject its basic historicity even in matters of detail must now appear absurd. Roman historians have long taken it for granted.’, Sherwin-White, ‘Roman Society and Roman Law in the New Testament’, p. 189 (1963).
@TheExodus17 Deu 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
The four Gospels are the four accounts of Jesus’ life, which are contained in the New Testament part of the Bible. Historians will tell you that the closer an historical document is written to the time of the events it describes, the generally more reliable it is as a source of information about those events. Matthew’s Gospel account of Jesus’ life is now reckoned to have been written sometime between AD 70 and AD 80. Mark’s Gospel is dated between AD. 50 and AD. 65.
@TheExodus17 Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.......Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. ..........Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Both were ancient historians and both confirmed the fact that the land went dark when Jesus was crucified. This parallels what the Bible said happened when Jesus died.
@TheExodus17 Joe 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. .........Psa 106:21 They forgat God their saviour, which had done great things in Egypt; ..........Isa 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Tacitus lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome. In his section describing Nero’s decision to blame the fire of Rome on the Christians, Tacitus affirms that the founder of Christianity, a man he calls Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christ, which was Jesus’ surname), was executed by Pilate, the procurator of Judea during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberias.
Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born in either 37 or 38 AD and died some time after 100 AD. He wrote the Jewish Antiquites and in one famous passage described Jesus as a wise man, a doer of wonderful works and calls him the Christ. He also affirmed that Jesus was executed by Pilate and actually rose from the dead!
@TheExodus17 Isa 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. ..........Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a RIGHTEOUS BRANCH (The Children of Israel), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. ...Pro 11:28 He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch. ....Isa 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. (NOTICE BRANCH)...
@Iesurun You really think Israel is righteous? The last King of Judah was wicked and did NOT listen to Jeremiah the prophet. Daniel knew this as well. Israel broke God's covenant. God sent the prophets to warn the Israelites to STOP IT! But they would NOT STOP IT they KILLED the prophets! SO, God sent Christ to die for Israel's iniquity.
Galatians 3:13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
@Iesurun I'm just going to ignore all the worthless scriptures you posted. So, I just have to know because I will leave you alone if you don't want to consider Yeshua as your King. With ALL the Historical Evidence weighed out, WHY do you still choose to say Christ NEVER existed???
@TheExodus17 Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel returne, and seeke the Lord their God, and Dauid their King, and shall feare the Lord, and his goodnesse in the latter dayes. ......Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
@TheExodus17 Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
@Iesurun Genesis 49:10 "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Binding his foal to the vine, and his ass's colt to the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk."
@TheExodus17 The scepter shall not depart from judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet; So that tribute shall come to him and the homage of peoples be his. He tethers his ass to a vine, Hiss ass's foal to a choice vine; He washes his garment in wine, His robe in blood of grapes. His eyes are darker than wine; His teeth are whiter than milk.
Jeremiah 33:15 "In those days, and at that time, will I cause the BRANCH(NOTICE the word BRANCH) of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land."
You keep evading my Answers and irrefutable scriptures. If you Have a Hebrew Bible, You should read it to get A better understanding. ..Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.. Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus)
Jeremiah 23:5 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a RIGHTEOUS BRANCH (The Messiah Yeshua), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth."
Luke 1:32 "He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:"
@TheExodus17 You keep evading my Answers and irrefutable scriptures. If you Have a Hebrew Bible, You should read it to get A better understanding. ..Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.. Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus)
@TheExodus17 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. Pro 28:1 ...Take care and may The MOST HIGH deal with you in your sleep...Shalom
@TheExodus17 Pro 11:27 He that diligently seeketh good procureth favour: but he that seeketh mischief, it shall come unto him. ...Pro 11:28 He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch. ...Isa 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. (THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL)
Deuteronomy 21:23 "His body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that your land be not defiled, which the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance."
Galatians 3:13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:"
Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.' Now meditate on this versus...
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Daniel 9:26 "And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and to the end of the war desolations are determined."
Daniel 9:25 "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem to the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and three score and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
Read with OVERstanding PLEASE.. Daniel 9:24 "Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:.
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
The Messiah/Savior is The MOST HIGH Alone who will save The Israelites in the End...2Es 6:9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
@Iesurun WHAT?! You keep evading my questions and irrefutable scriptures. LOL! What is your problem? ACH! You are one strange person to debate with. You know you would have lost it by now though. *SIGH* Yeah, even if I give you Daniel 9 you will still regress back to the same attitude. Your like the U.S. MARSHALL in the movie shutter Island who would never except that he killed his own wife. Just keep regressing back to the same mental state...
@TheExodus17 You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh....(Psa 89:20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:) You see you have to study more or you will continue going around tying to mislead people. The Anoited Leader is (DAvid) not your Sun God Jesus
@Iesurun NO! Psalms was written around 1037BC - 967 BC! DAVID had been dead by the time Daniel was written! Daniel wrote around 6th century BC. You need to read the Bible in its context. GRRR! I cannot find that scripture! Anyway, yeah that prophecy is talking about David's lineage which is Christ...
@TheExodus17 Go Buy You a Hebrew Bible and you will find this scripture and gain better understanding Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.....The Anoited Leader Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus).....WHAT? you don't have a Hebrew bible. : (
@Iesurun I have many Bibles including Hebrew. But, did you NOT just see what I wrote? David was the Anointed, YES! Christ was His seed. So, that would make him also Anointed. Sorry, God does NOT wat over 3,000 years to fulfill one prophecy...
@TheExodus17 You keep evading my Answers and irrefutable scriptures. If you Have a Hebrew Bible, You should read it to get A better understanding. ..Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.. Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus)
@Iesurun What does it matter?! David died well before Daniel so he is exempt. I am NOT evading those scriptures since I already explained them. We have other documents written by over 42 different men who mentioned the King of the Jews Christus or Crestus. They are used interchangeably. Scripture is abstract without concrete evidence to back it up. Christ agrees with the historical record ;)
@TheExodus17 You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh....(Psa 89:20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:) You see you have to study more or you will continue going around tying to mislead people. The Anoited Leader is (DAvid) not your Sun God Jesus
THE MOST HIGH is our Savior and DAVID Will Be our KING
i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 KJV 1611...(Psa 106:21 They forgot God their Savior which had done great things in Egypt: ...(Isa 43:3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy one of Israel, thy Savior: I gaue Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Look The MOST HIGH is our Savior... Get Over it, Mithra-Jesus is not our God
John 1:1-2, 14 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
THE MOST HIGH is our Savior and DAVID Will Be our KING
i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 KJV 1611...(Psa 106:21 They forgot God their Savior which had done great things in Egypt: ...(Isa 43:3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy one of Israel, thy Savior: I gaue Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Look The MOST HIGH is our Savior... Get Over it, Mithra-Jesus is not our God
@Iesurun Hos 13:4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no God, but me: for there is no SAVIOR beside me. ....Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
(The MOST HIGH Have Spoken it...) The Truth Will Stand and All Pagan Religions will fall.. Judaism Christianity Islam Buddhism Egyptology etc Moon Sun Gods will fall...Shalom
@Iesurun *sigh* Jesus is NOT GOD ok? However, He is the King of Kings, the Son of GOD. You know, like the angels are the "sons of GOD?" Except Christ was the first ONE God created. By the way, you just told me that you agree with zeitgeist addendum and they LIE! Mithra emerged from a ROCK! ROFL! Unless that rock was a virgin there was no parallel with Mithra! LOL! Any other fake gods you want to compare to the Messiah? Krishna? Horus? Dionysus? Christ has historical evidence he existed...
@TheExodus17 I see that got your attention... Look The MOST HIGH is our SAVIOR and he will Place David as King over the children of Israel, If you didn't know this, Know you do...I am trying to Wake you up...Walk Away from your Sun God while you have A chance...Shalom
@Iesurun I already debunked those myths. Christ is NOT a god. He is the promised King NOT David. I gave you over 20 scriptures backing ONE who would come. NOT one who had already come. I mean, when you get to Malachi, God promises him that the messenger of the covenant would come. Who was this? David? NO. Yeshua Ha'Mashiac :) By the way, I am already woke. Who taught you this David is the Messiah? I bet it was the Elesha from house of Yisrael...
@TheExodus17 Wow another Misquote, Wickedly slick Huh...The MOST HIGH is Our Savior... [Hos 13:4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no God, but me: for there is no SAVIOR beside me. ] David Will Be King Over Israel.....[Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. ] You See my friend I Read . Trust in the MOST HIGH follow no man..
@Iesurun Well, again, Zechariah 9:9 speaks about a King riding on an ass who is JUST and has SALVATION. I guess I am wasting my time with you right? You have made up in your mind you will reject Yeshua as King (from the house of DAVID). There is nothing more I can say. You totally spammed yourself with redundancy... Back and forth with the same versus that if read in their context, you would have understood that David WAS King a long time ago, DIED and had a child named Yeshua..
@TheExodus17 Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle....Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. ...Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. ...."There is still time for you to Wake up" TheExodus "Wake up" The MOST HIGH is Calling You.
@Iesurun You have been looking for something that has always been there. The MOST HIGH you speak of is NOT the same MOST HIGH I speak of. Your god seems to be a liar. My GOD deals in truth. His WORD is true. NOT just some of it. ALL of it. You must be in a new religion that believes David is the Messiah. That is fine. I am NOT putting my salvation on the line by rejecting Yeshua. He is a historical figure and I would be a FOOL to reject him.
@TheExodus17 Wow Know the truth comes out, You don't Believe in the MOST HIGH The G-D of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Well Bud I am sorry to here that....And oh yeah, If It would have took me to post a thousand scriptures for you to understand it would have been well worth the time, because you really need to Wake up from the Deception you been Taught. Much Love ...Shalom
@Iesurun I have read them over and over. I know the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation. I probably could share somethings you did not even know, since you only read from the Old Testament. If David was to be King then that would make God a LIAR PERIOD. How can God say, from the fruit of your body will I set on your throne. And you say that God says I will set David himself back on the throne??? That is a contradiction, is it NOT?
@TheExodus17 I Gave you scripture after scripture so that you can yourself, You say G-D is a LIAR, How? watch this Isaiah 43:11 (READS) i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. NO Lie There. watch this Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for EVER.
@Iesurun If how YOU interpret Ezekiel 37:25 was correct. That would CRUSH the credibility of God's word. It would contradict Psalm 132:11 "The LORD has sworn in truth to David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of your body will I set on your throne." And many others that say David's offspring would rule on his thrown when David's time as King came to an end. So that would make God a LIAR. SIMPLE...
@Iesurun LOL YOU know what's funny? You say I am deceived for reading what is in my Bible. LOL! But, you are the one who is correct for rejecting whatever you wish. Isn't that hilarious?! ROFL!
@TheExodus17 No You have been Deceived and I'm showing you the truth. You want to Dismiss The MOST HIGH as your Savior and replace him with (Jesus) and you also want to Dismiss David as King of the Israelites and Replace him with (Jesus)...and the Christians also Replaced the children of Israel with the (Church)...and you Know what? The Damage has already been done ...So now It's time for the Truth, It's time for the whole earth to Know the truth....Shalom
@Iesurun What?! LOL! You see what you do? GOD is OUR saviour! What do you think Yeshua means?! God is SALVATION! God is the ultimate salvation through Yeshua! Now you know the name Yeshua's meaning, you don't have to feel offended. Geez, Why are you so touchy?
@TheExodus17 So now you understand that Jesus is not God nor is he a savior. I am so glad you understand now....THE MOST HIGH by himself is our Savior. And he Alone will Redeem the Children of Israel...i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 For A minute ther I thought you where a lost cause...Shalom
@Iesurun Oh I needed to correct you on why that says "DAVID" David is the title given to the Anointed ONE, Christ, since He was the offspring of David. Oh, David committed adultery. Yeshua was perfect ;)
You read but DO NOT comprehend. 2 Samuel 7:12 "And when your days be fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, which shall proceed out of your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom." David's days are fulfilled HE DIED! Christ is his offspring!! This verse alone destroys your ASSumption! DO NOT give me any more verses from you! We both posted enough Already! NOW, what do you have to say about this verse? OR just say I reject Yeshua as my KING...
@TheExodus17 Eze 37:24 -25 .(READS) And David my servant shall be King over them, and they all shall haue one shepherd: they shall also walk in my iudgements, and observe my statutes, and doe them. And they shall dwell in the land that I haue given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers haue dwelt, and they shall dwell therein, even they and their children, and their children children for ever, and my servant David shalbe their prince for ever. .
Jer. 23:5 "Behold, the days come, said the LORD, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth." Why are you doing this??? I thought you were a person who likes wisdom. You are just totally ignoring the scriptures I am giving you! You know something? You are in trouble if you reject Yeshua in your heart. I have nothing to worry about since he was the promised King that God swore to David he would give.
Here is a passage from Enoch the first prophet. Deep book. Enoch 46:1 " And there I saw One whose face looked ancient. His head was white like wool, and with him was another being who had the countenance of a man, and his face was full of graciousness, like one of the holy angels." Revelation 1:14 and Daniel 7:9 agrees with Enoch. Jude 1:14 "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints." So you have to be seeing this
Wow All this time I thought you were a christian, because you pose the same arguments as the christians pose...
Anyway You can not have two gods if you are an Israelite. The Children of Israel follow The Most High Only, Because The Most High says Isa 43:11 I, even I am the MOST HIGH, and beside me there is no Savior.
Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
@Iesurun If your read and understand the New Testament nowhere is Christ considered a god (elohim) by any of the Apostles. Besides, Yeshua gave credit and glory to his father in Heaven, the MOST HIGH.
@Iesurun The Most High of course. It was his plan. The Old Testament was getting old and needed to be renewed so YAH sent His son Yeshua to atone for Israel sins and gather them back to Him on the dreadful day. Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away."
@TheExodus17 Deu 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Deu 4:40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.
@Iesurun (cont'd) After the temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans there was a 2,000 year interval of iniquity that Israelites continued to sin against God. That is why Yeshua was sent to die before this happened!
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
I can see this happening when Satan and the false prophet Maitreya Arise and deceive many...
@TheExodus17 Listen Brother The Temple was destroyed because the children of Israel went whoring after other G-DS They were cursed by the MOST HIGH because of this. And they will be Redeemed when The Most High Returns. (Read) Deu chapter 28 and you will understand The Curses
And If you don't already Know, That the whole Earth has Already Been Deceived, Then my brother I Pray for You...All Religion is False including your christian doctrine...Shalom
@Iesurun Wrong 100% That is why I am going around correcting misguided Israelites who are taken on this new doctrine that contradicts the Bible. Yeshua prophesied in In Luke 19:41-44, that Jerusalem would be destroyed because of the rejection of Yeshua as the Messiah. Although some people did accept Jesus as the Messiah, many people rejected him. In fact, the rejection was strong enough that Jesus was executed a short time after uttering the prophecy. Study Daniel's 70 weeks.
Eze 8:1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.
Eze 8:2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
@Iesurun Eze 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
Eze 8:4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
@Iesurun Eze 8:5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.
Eze 8:6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.
@Iesurun Eze 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
Eze 8:11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.
@Iesurun Eze 8:12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.
Eze 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Eze 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
@Iesurun Eze 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
@Iesurun Eze 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
Eze 8:18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them
@Iesurun I thought you had enough lol. What does these scriptures have to do with what I wrote. More irrelevant behavior. So your only option is to do this lol. C'mon bud, I have already debunked the David messiah doctrine. Either you reject Yeshua as the Messiah like the Israel did, or Yeshua will reject you in the kingdom. John 12:48 "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."
@Iesurun Redundancy. sun god stuff is all you can think of to reject Christ. I told you that sun god Christ stuff has been debunked. Watch my zeitgeist refuted clip in my Exodus playlist. Anything else?
@TheExodus17 No I don't reject your Christ because of Zeitgeist, I reject your Christ Because The Most High is who I follow and that's it...As it is Written I, euen I am the Lord, and beside me there is no Sauiour. Isa 43:11
Isa 45:19 I haue not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
@Iesurun As a matter of fact, Yeshua's prophecy was fulfilled about 40 years later when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and tore down the Temple. The destruction was so complete that even the foundations of the Temple were dug up, according to Josephus, an historian who wrote about the destruction. So, if you reject Christ then you reject historical facts. Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge.." Are you still going to reject history??
@Iesurun Because He is my Prince. He is the one whom God chose to rule on David's throne. I already gave scripture to prove that. If you still are skeptical see Psalm 132:11 2 Samuel 7:12 1 Chronicles 17:11. Simple YAH is the true and living God, the MOST HIGH. And Yeshua is the Prince :)
@Iesurun Exodus 32:9 "And the LORD said to Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff necked people:" You are still giving the same scripture not even in their context. David is his servant GREAT! But, David is dead and God said David's SEED would rule the throne. I have given you scripture to back this, yet you still reject wisdom?! Man I sure tried. I actually thought you were understanding for a minute. I guess not:( I don't know who pushed this new doctrine but they hit hard
@TheExodus17 Exodus 32:9 "And the LORD said to Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff necked people:"You are still rejecting scripture in their context. Jesus is his servant GREAT! But, Jesus is dead and God said David would rule the throne. I have given you scriptures, yet you still reject wisdom?! Man I sure tried. I actually thought you were understanding for a minute. I guess not:(The Wicked Has pushed this New Testament doctrine Hard and Many Fell For it
@Iesurun Luke 21:15 "For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist." I have that mouth :) All I can do is pray for you :( You are very redundant and have no science or historical facts to back your claims. I have the Bible, science, and history. So, should I believe your David is the messiah doctrine? I don't think so. *sigh* I will try someone who will listen to wisdom.
@TheExodus17 Eze 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. This information is for those who have an ear
P.S. See you did it again misquoting I said The MOST HIGH is our savior and DAVID will be our KING/PRINCE Eze 37:25 ...
@Iesurun Indeed it does. I see you will stand on the doctrine of David is the Messiah. That is fine. However, please don't go around confusing other Israelites who don't know much about historical facts and science. They are the sheep that need to be taught the ENTIRE word of God. NOT just from Genesis to Malachi. Malachi 4:5 ""See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes." John the revelator is Elijah in the spirit. (Luke 1:17)
@TheExodus17 Wow Your telling me not to go around confusing other Israelites, When this wicked world has already confused the children of Israel with false Doctrines such as Christianity and Islam etc, Your Request reminds me of something Isaiah said...
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
P.S. The Truth will be told and nothing or no-one will stop it...Shalom
@Iesurun John 3:18 "He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
1 John 5:11-12 "And this is the record, that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life."
Romans 5:1 "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Yeshua Christ" God bless..
@Iesurun On that note I am off to bed. I will pray tonight that God has mercy on you. Maybe He will soften your hard heart. John 14:6 "Yeshua said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me."
I am signing off,
but I promise to pray for you brother. I am troubled that you still don't understand but I will let YAH take care of you :)
@TheExodus17 I Pray for the children of Israel that they understand the truth.
Dan 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
Good night and May The Most High Deal with you in your sleep...Shalom
@Iesurun Deuteronomy 18:21-3 "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously: you shall not be afraid of him." Yeshua prophesied the destruction of the temple about 40 years before it happened! 70 A.D remember? I even gave you the torah and you still reject Messiah?
@Iesurun Micah 3:11-12 "The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet they lean upon Jehovah, and say, Is not Jehovah in the midst of us? no evil shall come upon us. Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest." All the prophets knew that Jerusalem would be destroyed by Roman armies!
@Iesurun Luke 21:24 "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Hmmm.. After the temple was destroyed and from there on out Christ prophesied that Israel would go into captivity until the time of Gentiles be fulfilled! Are we NOT still scattered?! Esau are those Gentiles in Israel now! Christ is the Messiah! The Anointed One and OUR King!
@TheExodus17 FALSE What are you talking about, The MOST HIGH Already warned the Children of Israel. Hmmm...Remember Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of theMOST HIGH thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee ...
You see The MOST HIGH already told them, You should Read more...But I forgot Christians don't read...
@Iesurun Daniel 9:24-26 "Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy...(cont'd)
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
@Iesurun Oh I am paying attention alright! Maybe your NOT! Deuteronomy 28:49-52 "The LORD shall bring a nation against you from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies; a nation whose tongue you shall not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young..." (cont'd)
@Iesurun Deuteronomy 28:51-52 "And he shall eat the fruit of your cattle, and the fruit of your land, until you be destroyed: which also shall not leave you either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of your cows, or flocks of your sheep, until he have destroyed you. And he shall besiege you in all your gates, until your high and fenced walls come down, wherein you trusted, throughout all your land: and he shall besiege you in all your gates throughout all your land" HAPPY?!
@Iesurun READ THIS AGAIN!!! Deuteronomy 18:22 "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." Christ prophesied OUR Exile and you still deny your KING?! LOL! You are a piece of work, lol! I have already shown you enough scriptures with prophecy and you still keep playing this game lol. I get it. You just don't have the spirit to accept Messiah...
@Iesurun (cont'd) Daniel 9:25 "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem to the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and three score and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
@TheExodus17 Eze 37:24 And Dauid my servant shall be King over them, and they all shall haue one shepherd: they shall also walk in my iudgements, and observe my statutes, and doe them.
Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I haue giuen vnto Iacob my seruant, wherin your fathers haue dwelt, and they shall dwell therein, euen they and their children, and their childrens children for euer, and my seruant Dauid shalbe their prince for euer.
@Iesurun Eze 34:24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them, I the Lord HAVE SPOKEN IT.
Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their King, and shall fear the Lord, and his goodness in the latter days.
[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar. A Psalme of David .] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? Psa 22:1 KJV 1611 :)
@Iesurun Daniel 9:26 "And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and to the end of the war desolations are determined."
Psalm 132:11 "The LORD has sworn in truth to David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of your body will I set on your throne." So, David himself is dead and will not be on the throne anymore. BUT WAIT! God said he would set one of David's offspring on the throne. Hmmm... Who could it be? Yeshua :)
It looks to me that you don't want to accept the true messiah, Yeshua Ha'Mashiac as your King. Well, you are showing me that you are being biased and I knew you were. You fail to argue the facts about the irrefutable prophecies of Christ like Zechariah 9:9. And that is why you block me! Every other Israelite brother like you just want to be emotional instead of discussing diplomatically and righteously. Ok, if you want to reject God's word as a whole then ok. I'll see if another will hear wisdom
@TheExodus17 If you choose to continue to follow your sun god, and don't repent and come to the G-D who gave the. The Most High will Destroy you, You Have Been warned. All religions of the earth have deceived the people into following Pagan Gods. Wake up and follow The Most High only, Before it's to late.
Also I would Like to Add, For All Christians watching, From Know on If You want To show The name Jesus to someone in other parts of the bible other than the New Testament, I would like to recommend that you go Purchase yourself A ( King James 1611 Bible with the Apocrypha ), Because in the Apocrypha it Actually Has the name JESUS in it. I Hope This Help. And remember this, in the book of Isa 43:11 (READS) I, even I am the MOST HIGH, and beside me there is no SAVIOR... Shalom
(cont'd) Please do not fall for the lies of the Zeigtgeist movement. There job is to kill the name of Christ so they can initiate the New World Order. David had alread been dead in the scriptures when these men were prophesying after King David's death. So, they could not be saying David would be King of Israel forever. It had to be Christ. I won't try and make you have faith in Christ, but many of the scriptures I gave you symbolise someone who was to come in righteousness and having salvation.
@TheExodus17 You mentioned Zeitgeist not me, but sense you brought that up, its interesting you said Zeigtgeist movement, job is to kill the name of Christ . while christian movement job is to kill the MOST HIGH, DAVID, THE REAL CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, and The LAWS STATUES AND COMMANDMENTS.
@Iesurun Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
@Iesurun Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
Amo 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
@Iesurun Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
Eze 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
@Iesurun Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
@Iesurun Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
@Iesurun Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. ... Hope This Help, May The MOST HIGH Guide you. Shalom
@Iesurun Ok ok, hold on lol. Calm down... Do you not want to consider what I am saying? Because you just keep throwing up scriptures. I need to understand why you reject the so called new testament. And honestly, David is just a title used for Christ, also Prince of peace, King of Kings, etc. Let us get this straight first.
@TheExodus17 My reason is simple. The children of Israel Hurt the MOST HIGH when They Followed other G-DS. (They forgotten God their Savior: which had done great things in Egypt .Psa 106:21) ( So Our Father Punished us with a curse a generational curse.Deu 28:15-68) (and the curse would last to the end of the world 2Esdras 6:9). So I asked can anyone besides him save us and he said, ( I, even I am the MOST HIGH, and beside me there is no Savior...Isa 43:11)
@Iesurun Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they broke, although I was an husband to them, said the LORD:" Hebrews 8:10 agrees with this also. In Zechariah 9:9, did Christ NOT appear on an ass? It also says he has salvation.
@TheExodus17 Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
@Iesurun Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
@Iesurun Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
@Iesurun Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
@TheExodus17 You are not paying attention, you need to read and get understanding. Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. (The King of Israel will be David, David will come riding upon an ass and upon a colt).
I have proved this over and over and you are not paying attention...May the Most High Help you understand.Shalom
@Iesurun Wow boy you have a lot of faith in David fulfilling something that has already been fulfilled! I commend you. Wow, you choose to just ignore the 4 gospels that agree with everything the old testament says. Also you still fail to answer how David has the power of salvation. Remember Genesis 49:10-12? Christ is the one who will gather Israel NOT a dead Israelite. David broke God's 7th commandment. Christ was perfect. Therefore, its safe to conclude that David fails to substantiate that.
@TheExodus17 The New testament of the MOST HIGH hasn't been fulfilled. Here are some clues to let you Know when the The New Testament Has been Fulfilled.....
@Iesurun Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
@Iesurun Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
@Iesurun Oh the new covenant is NOT new. I repeat, the new covenant is NOT new. It is the same covenant just renewed. For instance, if an Israelite committed adultery he would be put to death with NO second chance during the old testament. However, in Christ, the Israelite is forgiven. Meaning he has a chance to repent from his abominable sin. Do you see?
@TheExodus17 OK I really want you to wake up so here it is.Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heauen, O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how art thou cut downe to the ground, which didst weaken the nations?
@Iesurun Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart; I wil ascend into heauen, I wil exalt my throne aboue the starres of God: I wil sit also vpon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the North.
Isa 14:14 I wil ascend aboue the heights of the cloudes, I wil bee like the most High.
@Iesurun YES! Now you will see how Genesis 3:15 agrees that Satan has offspring. Isaiah 14:20 "Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, [and] slain thy people: the SEED(meaning offspring) of evildoers shall never be renowned." In the garden of eden, Satan had sexual intercourse with Eve and Eve conceived Cain. Like I said, Cain is not mentioned in Adam's lineage becauase he is NOT Adam's seed. That is why Adam and Eve hid their NAKEDNESS. Now u get it?
@TheExodus17 Job9:24,The Earth is given into the hand of the wicked , Religion came from the wicked. Origin:
1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion ) < L religiōn- (s. of religiō ) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig ( āre ) to tie, fasten ( re- re- + ligāre to bind, tie.
@Iesurun For the last time. I am NOT a Christian! I am an Israelite like you who obeys God's 613 laws and keeps the faith of Yeshua Ha'Mashiac. I know that you were in Christianity like me and did NOT get spiritually fed the truth. So, do you now understand that Satan had sex with Eve and begot Cain? The Christian church told you a lie. There was no apple it was symbolic. see (Daniel 4:20-22). If you understand this then you will agree that Yeshua is the everlasting King of the house of David.
@TheExodus17 You are focus on the garden and that's fine.The Most High Flooded the Earth and spared Noah and his Family. So I need to Know exactly what are you saying?
@Iesurun Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." So even after the flood were their giants. Goliath was an example. How do you think the pyramids were built? Sons of god had sex with the daughters of men and God cursed them and binded them in the clefts of the earth. Just purchase the book of Enoch.He tell all
@Iesurun When Lucifer said He will Be Like the Most High,he achieved his objective. He convinced you and the world that he is the Light of the world.and he did this with Religion and Politics ,And with religion and Politics he has successfully divided the whole earth. But You need to understand that there is only One G-D, the G-D who Gave The Law.
@TheExodus17 To reply to your Faith comment, My Faith is in The MOST HIGH and His LAWS STATUES and COMMANDMENTS. You Christians Have Your God, Muslims Have There God, And The Children of Israel Follow The Creator The G-D of Abraham Isaac Jacob.
Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. ................Hos 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
Iesurun 1 year ago
I will say this last thing. If all this historical evidence does NOT get you to believe that Yeshua existed then you are a FOOL, PERIOD! You can chop up all the scriptures you want. But, no person in his right mind, with the saturation of the historicity of a man named Yeshua of Nazareth, would deny that he ever existed! Matter of fact, there is MORE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS that give a testament of Yeshua than any other historical FACT in the WORLD! PERIOD!!!!
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Deu 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.
1Ki 8:60 That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.
Iesurun 1 year ago
[5] ‘For Acts the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming. Yet Acts is, in simple terms and judged externally, no less of a propaganda narrative than the Gospels, liable to similar distortions. But any attempt to reject its basic historicity even in matters of detail must now appear absurd. Roman historians have long taken it for granted.’, Sherwin-White, ‘Roman Society and Roman Law in the New Testament’, p. 189 (1963).
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Deu 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Isa 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
Iesurun 1 year ago
The four Gospels are the four accounts of Jesus’ life, which are contained in the New Testament part of the Bible. Historians will tell you that the closer an historical document is written to the time of the events it describes, the generally more reliable it is as a source of information about those events. Matthew’s Gospel account of Jesus’ life is now reckoned to have been written sometime between AD 70 and AD 80. Mark’s Gospel is dated between AD. 50 and AD. 65.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Isa 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.......Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. ..........Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Iesurun 1 year ago
Thallus and Phlegon
Both were ancient historians and both confirmed the fact that the land went dark when Jesus was crucified. This parallels what the Bible said happened when Jesus died.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Joe 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. .........Psa 106:21 They forgat God their saviour, which had done great things in Egypt; ..........Isa 43:3 For I am the LORD thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour: I gave Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Iesurun 1 year ago
Cornelius Tacitus
Tacitus lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome. In his section describing Nero’s decision to blame the fire of Rome on the Christians, Tacitus affirms that the founder of Christianity, a man he calls Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christ, which was Jesus’ surname), was executed by Pilate, the procurator of Judea during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberias.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Iesurun 1 year ago
You want proof Jesus Existed? Josephus:
Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born in either 37 or 38 AD and died some time after 100 AD. He wrote the Jewish Antiquites and in one famous passage described Jesus as a wise man, a doer of wonderful works and calls him the Christ. He also affirmed that Jesus was executed by Pilate and actually rose from the dead!
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Isa 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. ..........Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Iesurun 1 year ago
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a RIGHTEOUS BRANCH (The Children of Israel), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. ...Pro 11:28 He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch. ....Isa 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. (NOTICE BRANCH)...
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun You really think Israel is righteous? The last King of Judah was wicked and did NOT listen to Jeremiah the prophet. Daniel knew this as well. Israel broke God's covenant. God sent the prophets to warn the Israelites to STOP IT! But they would NOT STOP IT they KILLED the prophets! SO, God sent Christ to die for Israel's iniquity.
Galatians 3:13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I'm just going to ignore all the worthless scriptures you posted. So, I just have to know because I will leave you alone if you don't want to consider Yeshua as your King. With ALL the Historical Evidence weighed out, WHY do you still choose to say Christ NEVER existed???
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel returne, and seeke the Lord their God, and Dauid their King, and shall feare the Lord, and his goodnesse in the latter dayes. ......Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I guess that means you want answer me then right? lol.. Alrighty then. Nice discussing scripture with you :)
YAH Bless ;)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. ...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Genesis 49:10 "The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Binding his foal to the vine, and his ass's colt to the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes: His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 The scepter shall not depart from judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet; So that tribute shall come to him and the homage of peoples be his. He tethers his ass to a vine, Hiss ass's foal to a choice vine; He washes his garment in wine, His robe in blood of grapes. His eyes are darker than wine; His teeth are whiter than milk.
Iesurun 1 year ago
Jeremiah 33:15 "In those days, and at that time, will I cause the BRANCH(NOTICE the word BRANCH) of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
You keep evading my Answers and irrefutable scriptures. If you Have a Hebrew Bible, You should read it to get A better understanding. ..Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.. Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus)
Iesurun 1 year ago
Jeremiah 23:5 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a RIGHTEOUS BRANCH (The Messiah Yeshua), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth."
Luke 1:32 "He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:"
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You keep evading my Answers and irrefutable scriptures. If you Have a Hebrew Bible, You should read it to get A better understanding. ..Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.. Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus)
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun lol! I See, well I hope you will see the truth in the word of God as a whole.
God bless:)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion. Pro 28:1 ...Take care and may The MOST HIGH deal with you in your sleep...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Pro 11:27 He that diligently seeketh good procureth favour: but he that seeketh mischief, it shall come unto him. ...Pro 11:28 He that trusteth in his riches shall fall: but the righteous shall flourish as a branch. ...Isa 60:21 Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. (THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL)
Iesurun 1 year ago
Deuteronomy 21:23 "His body shall not remain all night on the tree, but you shall in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that your land be not defiled, which the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance."
Galatians 3:13 "Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:"
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.' Now meditate on this versus...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Iesurun 1 year ago
Daniel 9:26 "And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and to the end of the war desolations are determined."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Daniel 9:25 "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem to the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and three score and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Read with OVERstanding PLEASE.. Daniel 9:24 "Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 I am dying to here your interpretation of this scripture Dan 9:24
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Unlike some people, I let the Bible interpret itself. Read and learn...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 LOL, Unreal
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Does that mean you accept the prophet Daniel and the Messiah or do you REJECT them both?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:.
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
The Messiah/Savior is The MOST HIGH Alone who will save The Israelites in the End...2Es 6:9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun WHAT?! You keep evading my questions and irrefutable scriptures. LOL! What is your problem? ACH! You are one strange person to debate with. You know you would have lost it by now though. *SIGH* Yeah, even if I give you Daniel 9 you will still regress back to the same attitude. Your like the U.S. MARSHALL in the movie shutter Island who would never except that he killed his own wife. Just keep regressing back to the same mental state...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh....(Psa 89:20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:) You see you have to study more or you will continue going around tying to mislead people. The Anoited Leader is (DAvid) not your Sun God Jesus
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun NO! Psalms was written around 1037BC - 967 BC! DAVID had been dead by the time Daniel was written! Daniel wrote around 6th century BC. You need to read the Bible in its context. GRRR! I cannot find that scripture! Anyway, yeah that prophecy is talking about David's lineage which is Christ...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Go Buy You a Hebrew Bible and you will find this scripture and gain better understanding Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.....The Anoited Leader Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus).....WHAT? you don't have a Hebrew bible. : (
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I have many Bibles including Hebrew. But, did you NOT just see what I wrote? David was the Anointed, YES! Christ was His seed. So, that would make him also Anointed. Sorry, God does NOT wat over 3,000 years to fulfill one prophecy...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You keep evading my Answers and irrefutable scriptures. If you Have a Hebrew Bible, You should read it to get A better understanding. ..Dan9:25 (READS).....You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh.. Dan 9:25 is talking about is (David) not (Jesus)
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun What does it matter?! David died well before Daniel so he is exempt. I am NOT evading those scriptures since I already explained them. We have other documents written by over 42 different men who mentioned the King of the Jews Christus or Crestus. They are used interchangeably. Scripture is abstract without concrete evidence to back it up. Christ agrees with the historical record ;)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You must know and understand: From the issuance of the word to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of the anointed leader is seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it will be rebuilt, square and moat, but in a time of distress. Dan9:25JPS Hebrew Tanakh....(Psa 89:20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:) You see you have to study more or you will continue going around tying to mislead people. The Anoited Leader is (DAvid) not your Sun God Jesus
Iesurun 1 year ago
THE MOST HIGH is our Savior and DAVID Will Be our KING
i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 KJV 1611...(Psa 106:21 They forgot God their Savior which had done great things in Egypt: ...(Isa 43:3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy one of Israel, thy Savior: I gaue Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Look The MOST HIGH is our Savior... Get Over it, Mithra-Jesus is not our God
Iesurun 1 year ago
John 1:1-2, 14 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God... And the Word was made flesh, and dwelled among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
THE MOST HIGH is our Savior and DAVID Will Be our KING
i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 KJV 1611...(Psa 106:21 They forgot God their Savior which had done great things in Egypt: ...(Isa 43:3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy one of Israel, thy Savior: I gaue Egypt for thy ransom, Ethiopia and Seba for thee.
Look The MOST HIGH is our Savior... Get Over it, Mithra-Jesus is not our God
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Hos 13:4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no God, but me: for there is no SAVIOR beside me. ....Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
(The MOST HIGH Have Spoken it...) The Truth Will Stand and All Pagan Religions will fall.. Judaism Christianity Islam Buddhism Egyptology etc Moon Sun Gods will fall...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun *sigh* Jesus is NOT GOD ok? However, He is the King of Kings, the Son of GOD. You know, like the angels are the "sons of GOD?" Except Christ was the first ONE God created. By the way, you just told me that you agree with zeitgeist addendum and they LIE! Mithra emerged from a ROCK! ROFL! Unless that rock was a virgin there was no parallel with Mithra! LOL! Any other fake gods you want to compare to the Messiah? Krishna? Horus? Dionysus? Christ has historical evidence he existed...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 I see that got your attention... Look The MOST HIGH is our SAVIOR and he will Place David as King over the children of Israel, If you didn't know this, Know you do...I am trying to Wake you up...Walk Away from your Sun God while you have A chance...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I already debunked those myths. Christ is NOT a god. He is the promised King NOT David. I gave you over 20 scriptures backing ONE who would come. NOT one who had already come. I mean, when you get to Malachi, God promises him that the messenger of the covenant would come. Who was this? David? NO. Yeshua Ha'Mashiac :) By the way, I am already woke. Who taught you this David is the Messiah? I bet it was the Elesha from house of Yisrael...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Wow another Misquote, Wickedly slick Huh...The MOST HIGH is Our Savior... [Hos 13:4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no God, but me: for there is no SAVIOR beside me. ] David Will Be King Over Israel.....[Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. ] You See my friend I Read . Trust in the MOST HIGH follow no man..
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Well, again, Zechariah 9:9 speaks about a King riding on an ass who is JUST and has SALVATION. I guess I am wasting my time with you right? You have made up in your mind you will reject Yeshua as King (from the house of DAVID). There is nothing more I can say. You totally spammed yourself with redundancy... Back and forth with the same versus that if read in their context, you would have understood that David WAS King a long time ago, DIED and had a child named Yeshua..
God bless
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle....Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. ...Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. ...."There is still time for you to Wake up" TheExodus "Wake up" The MOST HIGH is Calling You.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun You have been looking for something that has always been there. The MOST HIGH you speak of is NOT the same MOST HIGH I speak of. Your god seems to be a liar. My GOD deals in truth. His WORD is true. NOT just some of it. ALL of it. You must be in a new religion that believes David is the Messiah. That is fine. I am NOT putting my salvation on the line by rejecting Yeshua. He is a historical figure and I would be a FOOL to reject him.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Wow Know the truth comes out, You don't Believe in the MOST HIGH The G-D of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, Well Bud I am sorry to here that....And oh yeah, If It would have took me to post a thousand scriptures for you to understand it would have been well worth the time, because you really need to Wake up from the Deception you been Taught. Much Love ...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I have read them over and over. I know the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation. I probably could share somethings you did not even know, since you only read from the Old Testament. If David was to be King then that would make God a LIAR PERIOD. How can God say, from the fruit of your body will I set on your throne. And you say that God says I will set David himself back on the throne??? That is a contradiction, is it NOT?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 I Gave you scripture after scripture so that you can yourself, You say G-D is a LIAR, How? watch this Isaiah 43:11 (READS) i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. NO Lie There. watch this Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for EVER.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun If how YOU interpret Ezekiel 37:25 was correct. That would CRUSH the credibility of God's word. It would contradict Psalm 132:11 "The LORD has sworn in truth to David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of your body will I set on your throne." And many others that say David's offspring would rule on his thrown when David's time as King came to an end. So that would make God a LIAR. SIMPLE...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun LOL YOU know what's funny? You say I am deceived for reading what is in my Bible. LOL! But, you are the one who is correct for rejecting whatever you wish. Isn't that hilarious?! ROFL!
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 No You have been Deceived and I'm showing you the truth. You want to Dismiss The MOST HIGH as your Savior and replace him with (Jesus) and you also want to Dismiss David as King of the Israelites and Replace him with (Jesus)...and the Christians also Replaced the children of Israel with the (Church)...and you Know what? The Damage has already been done ...So now It's time for the Truth, It's time for the whole earth to Know the truth....Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun What?! LOL! You see what you do? GOD is OUR saviour! What do you think Yeshua means?! God is SALVATION! God is the ultimate salvation through Yeshua! Now you know the name Yeshua's meaning, you don't have to feel offended. Geez, Why are you so touchy?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 So now you understand that Jesus is not God nor is he a savior. I am so glad you understand now....THE MOST HIGH by himself is our Savior. And he Alone will Redeem the Children of Israel...i even i am the most high, and Beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 For A minute ther I thought you where a lost cause...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Oh I needed to correct you on why that says "DAVID" David is the title given to the Anointed ONE, Christ, since He was the offspring of David. Oh, David committed adultery. Yeshua was perfect ;)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
You read but DO NOT comprehend. 2 Samuel 7:12 "And when your days be fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, which shall proceed out of your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom." David's days are fulfilled HE DIED! Christ is his offspring!! This verse alone destroys your ASSumption! DO NOT give me any more verses from you! We both posted enough Already! NOW, what do you have to say about this verse? OR just say I reject Yeshua as my KING...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Eze 37:24 -25 .(READS) And David my servant shall be King over them, and they all shall haue one shepherd: they shall also walk in my iudgements, and observe my statutes, and doe them. And they shall dwell in the land that I haue given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers haue dwelt, and they shall dwell therein, even they and their children, and their children children for ever, and my servant David shalbe their prince for ever. .
See it says DAVID not (JESUS aka MITHRA)
Iesurun 1 year ago
Jer. 23:5 "Behold, the days come, said the LORD, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth." Why are you doing this??? I thought you were a person who likes wisdom. You are just totally ignoring the scriptures I am giving you! You know something? You are in trouble if you reject Yeshua in your heart. I have nothing to worry about since he was the promised King that God swore to David he would give.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Here is a passage from Enoch the first prophet. Deep book. Enoch 46:1 " And there I saw One whose face looked ancient. His head was white like wool, and with him was another being who had the countenance of a man, and his face was full of graciousness, like one of the holy angels." Revelation 1:14 and Daniel 7:9 agrees with Enoch. Jude 1:14 "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his saints." So you have to be seeing this
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Wow All this time I thought you were a christian, because you pose the same arguments as the christians pose...
Anyway You can not have two gods if you are an Israelite. The Children of Israel follow The Most High Only, Because The Most High says Isa 43:11 I, even I am the MOST HIGH, and beside me there is no Savior.
Isa 43:13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun If your read and understand the New Testament nowhere is Christ considered a god (elohim) by any of the Apostles. Besides, Yeshua gave credit and glory to his father in Heaven, the MOST HIGH.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Let me ask you a question. Where did Your New Testament originate from?
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun The Most High of course. It was his plan. The Old Testament was getting old and needed to be renewed so YAH sent His son Yeshua to atone for Israel sins and gather them back to Him on the dreadful day. Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Deu 4:39 Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Deu 4:40 Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun (cont'd) After the temple was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans there was a 2,000 year interval of iniquity that Israelites continued to sin against God. That is why Yeshua was sent to die before this happened!
Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."
I can see this happening when Satan and the false prophet Maitreya Arise and deceive many...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Listen Brother The Temple was destroyed because the children of Israel went whoring after other G-DS They were cursed by the MOST HIGH because of this. And they will be Redeemed when The Most High Returns. (Read) Deu chapter 28 and you will understand The Curses
And If you don't already Know, That the whole Earth has Already Been Deceived, Then my brother I Pray for You...All Religion is False including your christian doctrine...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Wrong 100% That is why I am going around correcting misguided Israelites who are taken on this new doctrine that contradicts the Bible. Yeshua prophesied in In Luke 19:41-44, that Jerusalem would be destroyed because of the rejection of Yeshua as the Messiah. Although some people did accept Jesus as the Messiah, many people rejected him. In fact, the rejection was strong enough that Jesus was executed a short time after uttering the prophecy. Study Daniel's 70 weeks.
God bless.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Wrong 100%
Here's why
Eze 8:1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I sat in mine house, and the elders of Judah sat before me, that the hand of the Lord GOD fell there upon me.
Eze 8:2 Then I beheld, and lo a likeness as the appearance of fire: from the appearance of his loins even downward, fire; and from his loins even upward, as the appearance of brightness, as the colour of amber.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:3 And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy.
Eze 8:4 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel was there, according to the vision that I saw in the plain.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:5 Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry.
Eze 8:6 He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary? but turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:7 And he brought me to the door of the court; and when I looked, behold a hole in the wall.
Eze 8:8 Then said he unto me, Son of man, dig now in the wall: and when I had digged in the wall, behold a door.
Eze 8:9 And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:10 So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, pourtrayed upon the wall round about.
Eze 8:11 And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:12 Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The LORD seeth us not; the LORD hath forsaken the earth.
Eze 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Eze 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
Eze 8:18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I thought you had enough lol. What does these scriptures have to do with what I wrote. More irrelevant behavior. So your only option is to do this lol. C'mon bud, I have already debunked the David messiah doctrine. Either you reject Yeshua as the Messiah like the Israel did, or Yeshua will reject you in the kingdom. John 12:48 "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 That's the Problem with Christians, They don't read, How can I help you see If you don't read.
I will never have enough this is my life...So get ready
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Redundancy. sun god stuff is all you can think of to reject Christ. I told you that sun god Christ stuff has been debunked. Watch my zeitgeist refuted clip in my Exodus playlist. Anything else?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 No I don't reject your Christ because of Zeitgeist, I reject your Christ Because The Most High is who I follow and that's it...As it is Written I, euen I am the Lord, and beside me there is no Sauiour. Isa 43:11
Isa 45:19 I haue not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun As a matter of fact, Yeshua's prophecy was fulfilled about 40 years later when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and tore down the Temple. The destruction was so complete that even the foundations of the Temple were dug up, according to Josephus, an historian who wrote about the destruction. So, if you reject Christ then you reject historical facts. Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge.." Are you still going to reject history??
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 If Christ is not G-D why are you following him
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Because He is my Prince. He is the one whom God chose to rule on David's throne. I already gave scripture to prove that. If you still are skeptical see Psalm 132:11 2 Samuel 7:12 1 Chronicles 17:11. Simple YAH is the true and living God, the MOST HIGH. And Yeshua is the Prince :)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Eze 34:24 (READS) And I the MOST HIGH will be their God, and my servant DAVID a prince among them; I the MOST HIGH have spoken it...
Wake up Judah while there is still time. Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Exodus 32:9 "And the LORD said to Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff necked people:" You are still giving the same scripture not even in their context. David is his servant GREAT! But, David is dead and God said David's SEED would rule the throne. I have given you scripture to back this, yet you still reject wisdom?! Man I sure tried. I actually thought you were understanding for a minute. I guess not:( I don't know who pushed this new doctrine but they hit hard
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Exodus 32:9 "And the LORD said to Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff necked people:"You are still rejecting scripture in their context. Jesus is his servant GREAT! But, Jesus is dead and God said David would rule the throne. I have given you scriptures, yet you still reject wisdom?! Man I sure tried. I actually thought you were understanding for a minute. I guess not:(The Wicked Has pushed this New Testament doctrine Hard and Many Fell For it
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Luke 21:15 "For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist." I have that mouth :) All I can do is pray for you :( You are very redundant and have no science or historical facts to back your claims. I have the Bible, science, and history. So, should I believe your David is the messiah doctrine? I don't think so. *sigh* I will try someone who will listen to wisdom.
May God bless you and guide your path,
Good night:)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Eze 3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. This information is for those who have an ear
P.S. See you did it again misquoting I said The MOST HIGH is our savior and DAVID will be our KING/PRINCE Eze 37:25 ...
Brother the Truth is the truth and it hurts
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Indeed it does. I see you will stand on the doctrine of David is the Messiah. That is fine. However, please don't go around confusing other Israelites who don't know much about historical facts and science. They are the sheep that need to be taught the ENTIRE word of God. NOT just from Genesis to Malachi. Malachi 4:5 ""See, I will send you the prophet Elijah before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes." John the revelator is Elijah in the spirit. (Luke 1:17)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Wow Your telling me not to go around confusing other Israelites, When this wicked world has already confused the children of Israel with false Doctrines such as Christianity and Islam etc, Your Request reminds me of something Isaiah said...
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
P.S. The Truth will be told and nothing or no-one will stop it...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun John 3:18 "He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
1 John 5:11-12 "And this is the record, that God has given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life."
Romans 5:1 "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Yeshua Christ" God bless..
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun On that note I am off to bed. I will pray tonight that God has mercy on you. Maybe He will soften your hard heart. John 14:6 "Yeshua said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me."
I am signing off,
but I promise to pray for you brother. I am troubled that you still don't understand but I will let YAH take care of you :)
Good night and Shalom.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 I Pray for the children of Israel that they understand the truth.
Dan 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
Good night and May The Most High Deal with you in your sleep...Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Deuteronomy 18:21-3 "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously: you shall not be afraid of him." Yeshua prophesied the destruction of the temple about 40 years before it happened! 70 A.D remember? I even gave you the torah and you still reject Messiah?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 What scripture shows Your "JESUS" prophesying the destruction of Jerusalem, 40 years before it happened in the Torah in (70 A.D)???
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Micah 3:11-12 "The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet they lean upon Jehovah, and say, Is not Jehovah in the midst of us? no evil shall come upon us. Therefore shall Zion for your sake be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem shall become heaps, and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest." All the prophets knew that Jerusalem would be destroyed by Roman armies!
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun Luke 21:24 "And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Hmmm.. After the temple was destroyed and from there on out Christ prophesied that Israel would go into captivity until the time of Gentiles be fulfilled! Are we NOT still scattered?! Esau are those Gentiles in Israel now! Christ is the Messiah! The Anointed One and OUR King!
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 FALSE What are you talking about, The MOST HIGH Already warned the Children of Israel. Hmmm...Remember Deu 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of theMOST HIGH thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee ...
You see The MOST HIGH already told them, You should Read more...But I forgot Christians don't read...
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Daniel 9:24-26 "Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy...(cont'd)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
See, Your not paying attention..Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Oh I am paying attention alright! Maybe your NOT! Deuteronomy 28:49-52 "The LORD shall bring a nation against you from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies; a nation whose tongue you shall not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young..." (cont'd)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun Deuteronomy 28:51-52 "And he shall eat the fruit of your cattle, and the fruit of your land, until you be destroyed: which also shall not leave you either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of your cows, or flocks of your sheep, until he have destroyed you. And he shall besiege you in all your gates, until your high and fenced walls come down, wherein you trusted, throughout all your land: and he shall besiege you in all your gates throughout all your land" HAPPY?!
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun READ THIS AGAIN!!! Deuteronomy 18:22 "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." Christ prophesied OUR Exile and you still deny your KING?! LOL! You are a piece of work, lol! I have already shown you enough scriptures with prophecy and you still keep playing this game lol. I get it. You just don't have the spirit to accept Messiah...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun (cont'd) Daniel 9:25 "Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem to the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and three score and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Eze 37:24 And Dauid my servant shall be King over them, and they all shall haue one shepherd: they shall also walk in my iudgements, and observe my statutes, and doe them.
Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I haue giuen vnto Iacob my seruant, wherin your fathers haue dwelt, and they shall dwell therein, euen they and their children, and their childrens children for euer, and my seruant Dauid shalbe their prince for euer.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 34:24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them, I the Lord HAVE SPOKEN IT.
Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their King, and shall fear the Lord, and his goodness in the latter days.
[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar. A Psalme of David .] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? Psa 22:1 KJV 1611 :)
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Daniel 9:26 "And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and to the end of the war desolations are determined."
TheExodus17 1 year ago
Psalm 132:11 "The LORD has sworn in truth to David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of your body will I set on your throne." So, David himself is dead and will not be on the throne anymore. BUT WAIT! God said he would set one of David's offspring on the throne. Hmmm... Who could it be? Yeshua :)
TheExodus17 1 year ago
It looks to me that you don't want to accept the true messiah, Yeshua Ha'Mashiac as your King. Well, you are showing me that you are being biased and I knew you were. You fail to argue the facts about the irrefutable prophecies of Christ like Zechariah 9:9. And that is why you block me! Every other Israelite brother like you just want to be emotional instead of discussing diplomatically and righteously. Ok, if you want to reject God's word as a whole then ok. I'll see if another will hear wisdom
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 If you choose to continue to follow your sun god, and don't repent and come to the G-D who gave the. The Most High will Destroy you, You Have Been warned. All religions of the earth have deceived the people into following Pagan Gods. Wake up and follow The Most High only, Before it's to late.
Iesurun 1 year ago
Also I would Like to Add, For All Christians watching, From Know on If You want To show The name Jesus to someone in other parts of the bible other than the New Testament, I would like to recommend that you go Purchase yourself A ( King James 1611 Bible with the Apocrypha ), Because in the Apocrypha it Actually Has the name JESUS in it. I Hope This Help. And remember this, in the book of Isa 43:11 (READS) I, even I am the MOST HIGH, and beside me there is no SAVIOR... Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
(cont'd) Please do not fall for the lies of the Zeigtgeist movement. There job is to kill the name of Christ so they can initiate the New World Order. David had alread been dead in the scriptures when these men were prophesying after King David's death. So, they could not be saying David would be King of Israel forever. It had to be Christ. I won't try and make you have faith in Christ, but many of the scriptures I gave you symbolise someone who was to come in righteousness and having salvation.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You mentioned Zeitgeist not me, but sense you brought that up, its interesting you said Zeigtgeist movement, job is to kill the name of Christ . while christian movement job is to kill the MOST HIGH, DAVID, THE REAL CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, and The LAWS STATUES AND COMMANDMENTS.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
Jer 30:8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
Amo 9:12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
Eze 34:22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
Eze 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Eze 37:25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. ... Hope This Help, May The MOST HIGH Guide you. Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Ok ok, hold on lol. Calm down... Do you not want to consider what I am saying? Because you just keep throwing up scriptures. I need to understand why you reject the so called new testament. And honestly, David is just a title used for Christ, also Prince of peace, King of Kings, etc. Let us get this straight first.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 My reason is simple. The children of Israel Hurt the MOST HIGH when They Followed other G-DS. (They forgotten God their Savior: which had done great things in Egypt .Psa 106:21) ( So Our Father Punished us with a curse a generational curse.Deu 28:15-68) (and the curse would last to the end of the world 2Esdras 6:9). So I asked can anyone besides him save us and he said, ( I, even I am the MOST HIGH, and beside me there is no Savior...Isa 43:11)
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Jeremiah 31:31 "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they broke, although I was an husband to them, said the LORD:" Hebrews 8:10 agrees with this also. In Zechariah 9:9, did Christ NOT appear on an ass? It also says he has salvation.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun I am waiting for you to answer Zecharia 9:9. Because many Israelites just want to ignore it. Either you want the love of truth or not...
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You are not paying attention, you need to read and get understanding. Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. (The King of Israel will be David, David will come riding upon an ass and upon a colt).
I have proved this over and over and you are not paying attention...May the Most High Help you understand.Shalom
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Wow boy you have a lot of faith in David fulfilling something that has already been fulfilled! I commend you. Wow, you choose to just ignore the 4 gospels that agree with everything the old testament says. Also you still fail to answer how David has the power of salvation. Remember Genesis 49:10-12? Christ is the one who will gather Israel NOT a dead Israelite. David broke God's 7th commandment. Christ was perfect. Therefore, its safe to conclude that David fails to substantiate that.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 The New testament of the MOST HIGH hasn't been fulfilled. Here are some clues to let you Know when the The New Testament Has been Fulfilled.....
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Oh the new covenant is NOT new. I repeat, the new covenant is NOT new. It is the same covenant just renewed. For instance, if an Israelite committed adultery he would be put to death with NO second chance during the old testament. However, in Christ, the Israelite is forgiven. Meaning he has a chance to repent from his abominable sin. Do you see?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 OK I really want you to wake up so here it is.Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heauen, O Lucifer, sonne of the morning? how art thou cut downe to the ground, which didst weaken the nations?
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart; I wil ascend into heauen, I wil exalt my throne aboue the starres of God: I wil sit also vpon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the North.
Isa 14:14 I wil ascend aboue the heights of the cloudes, I wil bee like the most High.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun YES! Now you will see how Genesis 3:15 agrees that Satan has offspring. Isaiah 14:20 "Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, [and] slain thy people: the SEED(meaning offspring) of evildoers shall never be renowned." In the garden of eden, Satan had sexual intercourse with Eve and Eve conceived Cain. Like I said, Cain is not mentioned in Adam's lineage becauase he is NOT Adam's seed. That is why Adam and Eve hid their NAKEDNESS. Now u get it?
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 Job9:24,The Earth is given into the hand of the wicked , Religion came from the wicked. Origin:
1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion ) < L religiōn- (s. of religiō ) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig ( āre ) to tie, fasten ( re- re- + ligāre to bind, tie.
So why are you following Christianity?
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun For the last time. I am NOT a Christian! I am an Israelite like you who obeys God's 613 laws and keeps the faith of Yeshua Ha'Mashiac. I know that you were in Christianity like me and did NOT get spiritually fed the truth. So, do you now understand that Satan had sex with Eve and begot Cain? The Christian church told you a lie. There was no apple it was symbolic. see (Daniel 4:20-22). If you understand this then you will agree that Yeshua is the everlasting King of the house of David.
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 You are focus on the garden and that's fine.The Most High Flooded the Earth and spared Noah and his Family. So I need to Know exactly what are you saying?
Iesurun 1 year ago
@Iesurun Genesis 6:4 "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also AFTER that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." So even after the flood were their giants. Goliath was an example. How do you think the pyramids were built? Sons of god had sex with the daughters of men and God cursed them and binded them in the clefts of the earth. Just purchase the book of Enoch.He tell all
TheExodus17 1 year ago
@Iesurun When Lucifer said He will Be Like the Most High,he achieved his objective. He convinced you and the world that he is the Light of the world.and he did this with Religion and Politics ,And with religion and Politics he has successfully divided the whole earth. But You need to understand that there is only One G-D, the G-D who Gave The Law.
Iesurun 1 year ago
@TheExodus17 To reply to your Faith comment, My Faith is in The MOST HIGH and His LAWS STATUES and COMMANDMENTS. You Christians Have Your God, Muslims Have There God, And The Children of Israel Follow The Creator The G-D of Abraham Isaac Jacob.
Iesurun 1 year ago