Buncha fuckin downeys y cant they just leave their fuckin helmets alone. And nobody joins cadets to make friends they join to shoot shit and they only say that they joined to make friends cos it sounds better than them saying they joined to shoot guns. Y is it that hardly any normal people join cadet forces y is it mainly drips that join like this lot
@TheRealRyan1000 YOU SIR NEED TO GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF. you do join cadets to make friends you have to pass certain things before you begin shooting you dont just go and they hand you a rifle
@baberaider18 No you guys chave army cadets and im sure they will have USMC cadets aswell, do a little research on google as to where your closed detachment is and just go alon and talk to them, about it :)
Fantastic video lads and lasses! I can't belive that people like to pick on the stupid and tiny negative things. The skill and commitment is amazing surely that should over rule all these negative comments.
It's nice to see something like this that stops children going down the wrong path and maybe help them taking up a career in the army.
Keep up the good work and thank you to all those staff members ecpecially who have been there and are there now! :-)
... is by far the best out of the two (SLATE ME LATER). Every year we pay our respects to those who have fallen. The way I see it is, the RM, SAS, Army, Naval, Air Force are one massive 'Gang' but without a doubt it is just the British Military - your all doing and fighting for the same things? PEACE and Freedom? Kids? You are all role models that the kids look up to?
If you slate this then you are disrespecting your own Monarch to whom your serving....
We are all beating round the bush here, So what if the members of staff are wearing the GB as far as im concerned they have grown up with the Cadet unit, from a young age to instructor level "Giving back to the community!". We have the up most respect for the RM who cares about what colour lid it is. In fact, a famous song springs to mind : Michael Jackson - Black or White 'it doesn't matter!!'. Personally I joined when I was 12, prior to joining KMCF I attended ACF for a short while but KMCF...
pathetic, swearing at us and telling us to leave. it's upsetting to think something so harmful as a green lid could spark such a huge contraversy. and Boys from the cadet unit try not to sin k to there level too much, coz really we know they're jelous and that they need a life, and well we're clearly better then them... @gingerchipsrmc, @BROMLEY58, @TheBooty156
... years old, plus the green beret is adapted to push us away from the 'Real' royals. You sea cadets are just jealous that we're supported by the RNA (Royal naval assocciation), who used to support you until you screwed them over, now look whos getting the money. you really think your truly pathetic comments affect us, it just makes you look like sad immature little scruff's. honestly its pathetic how your instructors tell you to slag us off, when we saw you at radnor you really acted...
Right, how old are you, im a cadet at the kent marine cadet force and its the greatest thing thats ever happened to me, it gives me 4 hours a week to get away from everything and be myself, and not have to worry about being judged. plus you contradict yourselves proving your no that smart, you have a go at us for being too much like Royal marines yet you tell us off for doing Army parade, come on get a life you jealous bunch off ass's i mean really, half the kids on that video are 13....
is this for real?? some fat sweaty man sat at home with his laptop resting on his belly is slagging off a cadet unit that gets children off of the streets, gives them goals and provides them with structure and discipline. DO YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO? porn hub? all these negative comments are like water off a ducks back to the KMCF you think slagging them off makes a difference to them? it just makes them prouder as a unit knowing someone is jealous.
If you havent got anything positive to say then dont bother, that way there isnt going to be any arguments or disagreements if it bothers you that much then why not contact the unit and tell them your issues and help change these things!!
Right why can't every one understand we are not supported by the MoD and are not Royal marine cadets we wear the green beret with a unique cap badge and patch ( with the unit colours) it's a bunch of kids it's not like there walking round saying I'm a royal marine commando is it? All kmcf is trying to do is provide a fun environment for kids to pick up some new skills so just leave them alone.!
Isn't really imature that people have to take offence or get annoyed at the fact that some people are trying to better the lives of children and show them important life skills. This is about the youth that attend the cadet unit and nothing else, the instructors put time and effort into teaching the cadets new skills whether they are military or social it all makes a difference. Finally, what is the problem with wearing the green beret, the cadets have earnt the right to wear it. :)
your drills wrong if your a marine cadet unit you should be doin royal marines drill not pongo and they shouldnt be wearing green lids unless theyve earned them as some say its not fair because proffsional royals marines have to do 32 weeks of training to earn theres end ex
@gingerchipsrmc Your just repeating what a lot of poeple have said, you could have just read previous posts so that we don't all ahve to keep repeating ourselves...ok so firstly...they do army drill because that is what they ahve chosen (THEY ARE NOT ROYAL MARINE CADETS nor are they trying to be nor do they want to be) and the green berets have been adapted (unique cap badge and flash) so that they DO NOT resemble royal marine berets.
@gingerchipsrmc Why would you not just support the people trying to help make kids better? Discipline, respect and teaching structure are really important qualities. It's disappointing that you wouldn't just want to support positive organisations like this.
Wow! what a fantastic thing the staff members are doing here. not only are they teaching respect and discipline like all other cadet units, but are also raising the funds to run it themselves! that must give each and every member, staff and cadet alike, a really great sense of self achievment? keep up the good work guy. Brilliant. Just fucking fantastic :)
Feel free to help under-privalged kids, that's great. There are great Youth clubs and workers doing just that. all over, another one would hep a lot!. But from your arguements here and before, the blatant contridictions of your arguements, you and the rest of the staff are using these kids as a cover and as an excuse to excercise your own sad fantasies of being Commandos, when in reality you have no idea. And AGAIN please remember NO ONE IS GETTING AT THE KIDS, IT'S YOU STAFF, YOU MORON!
@TheBooty156 Right not getting at the kids? Depsite the fact your slagging of thier unit and yeh nice try but I'm not a member of staff just close to this unit, and I can vouch for the members of staff thier and that is...THEY ARE ALL EX-CADETS so no fantasies there just poeple who liked the place so much they've never left. Now as I've said many times go and slag off someone elses video I'm bored of you.
So if you still don,t get it, try imagining this. Change your name to Kent (Para) Cadet Force or Kent (SAS) Cadet Force. Then perhaps award you Cadets and selves Medals. Make them look like Victoria Cross,s or George Medals. Use SF Para wings while your at it. After all you are an "Independent" Cadet Unit and the "MoD shouldn,t sell them" Imagine the reaction you,d get.
@TheBooty156 No because as I HAVE SAID KMCF do NOT wear RM cap badges and the beret has been adapted and they do not use the word ROYAL marine, Marine just means sea or water, like lots of organisations that use that work like Marine Engineers, do you slag them off for using the word...NO becuase IT'S JUST A WORD. I only mentioned the 10k becuase you said instructors just don a beret when that is not the case they DO work for it...I'm not arguing that the RM course is completely different.
@TheBooty156 And YES it was a REAL ex Royal Marine who came to KMCF in 1982 and introduced the Green Beret he said he wanted to give the kids that go to the unit something to strive for and to earn, something they can learn to respect. But ofcourse a small minded, arrogant, sellfish indvidual like yourself doesn't see the fact this is a YOUTH CLUB providing a service to under privelged KIDS you just want to slate and be spiteful. Well be spiteful somewhere else I'm not interested in your views.
Do you think that the fac t to run 10km entitles you to wear the Green Beret? The Green Beret is awarded to people who have passed the "Hardest Infantry Training Course in the World", It is awarded after 36 weeks of Hell on earth, where people have died just trying to gain it. To qualify for training you must be A1 in terms of Health and Fitness. Once won you are a Commando, and become part of a proud and honoured few, and remain so for the rest of your life!!! It is not given for running 10k!
All youth organisations are GOVERNED by the laws,but who INDEPENDENTLY overseas them. For example you own and use airsoft SA80s and LSWs yet are you UKARA registered as specified by the VCRA? If so under what of the 4 dispensations? Museum? Re-enactment group? Skirmish club? MoD sponsored organisation?
Your Royal Marine who "awarded" the KMCF the Green Beret must either be a fiction o was a Walter. NO ONE who has\ ever passed out of CTCRM would cheapen its award in this way!
Yet it begs the question who has overview and regualtes policies other organisations have to adhere to, like Child Protection, Health and Safety, Firearms training, etc. D) It's staff appear to relish the idea of parading around in Green Berets, cheapening the effort those of us who sweated blood sweat and tears it takes to gain one.
So if you as staff want to be in a Marine Cadet Unit, join the Royal Marines Cadets in Folkestone (there is one you know) but I doubt you'd make the grade.
@TheBooty156 The Kent (Marine) Cadet Force is goverened by current child protection laws, it's staff have recieved child protection training by government organisation such as VAWK, it has a member of staff who has weapons training (as in how to use weapons safely) it has several memebers of staff who are first aid trained. KMCF must BY LAW have child protection policies H & S policies, vehicle policies, insurance etc most of which can be accessed on thier website.
KMCF are a complteley stand alone unique unit and what you KEEP doing is trying to compare them to MoD RM Cadet units but this is NOT what they are.KMCF was first established in 1972 but in 1982 a ROYAL MARINE joined them and introduced the Green Beret, for that reason it has been kept (it's a part of thier heritage). Furthermore ALL members of staff who wear the green beret have completed the same test as cader (most are excadets) and all have completed the 10K commando assualt course. Lymstone
Me again! I think that PhantomBadass is missing the point of most of the comments made so far. NO ONE IS HAVING A DIG AT THE CADETS. The KMCF as an organisation is what people find odd. A) It calls itself a Marine Cadet unit, but denies any conection to HM Royal Marines B) It issues Green Berets after Cadets do a "Commando Course", but they deny they are Commando Green (Spurious argument methinks) C) It operates independently of the rules governing other MoD sponsored organisations (more)
@BROMLEY58 This is coming from a person that has nothing better to do than POINTLESSLY dig at CADETS on YouTube, I think YOU need to sort YOURSELF out mate.
you will find recriuts and cadets are ment to be isued with the blue with red tomb stone beret with the royal marine cap badge and also your drill is wrong, you are not ment to bring yout knee up. And your marine cadets in total are not a group your a troop
@yvesleith true apart from this marine cadet detachment weren't formed as a request of the royal marines kent marine cadets are not a part of the royal marines cadets which were formed as a request of the RM, they just one single organisation
Tehe gutted I'm not a cadet and I do have something useful to say...you shouldn't have that green beret my friend. You call me disrespectful, why don't you ask what the royal marines think about you wearing a beret that they have to work their arses off for almost 3 quarters of a year to get and then we'll see who's the disrespectful one sunshine.
@JVolvic Instead of me asking why don't you ask? The Royal Marine's who met this cadet unit & support it, OR ask the 42 commando chaplin who sent this cadet unit a letter a couple of years ago thanking them very much (because ALL the cadets wrote letters to members of 42 commando during their tour of afghanistan) the chaplin even said they had recieved NO letters from ANY MoD cadets, must be that RESPECT you were talking about. Or perhaps ask the many ex cadets who have become Royal Marines!
@PhantomBadass your not MOD cadets and anyone that writes a letter to any troops in afghan will probably get a letter of thanks from the person that received it. and if your royal marine cadets what company are you in and have you ever been Gibraltar cup because i have.... so no
@BROMLEY58 I have stated several times on this page of you read the comments, that this cadet unit is NOT supported by or affliated to the MoD, that is made very clear.
@BROMLEY58 Spelled what properly? And I suggest you watch the video more thoroughly it states several times that this unit is not affliated to or supported by the Ministry of Defence.
@DeepBreathBassist No, they are NOT Royal Marine cadets which they state very clearly, they are a completeley self supported, stand alone unit, who do thier own drill and have thier own unique sylabus, they can not be compared to anything because they are unique, that's kind of the point!
very sloppy drill i must say, and whats with the green berets? and back flashes and TRF's? the green beret is the sign or passing th Commado course, cadet's wearing them is derogatory to the Royal Marines and all past Commando's you may as well wear a beige beret and say you're SAS or SRR
@TheDrummerboi94 But not if the beret has been adapted (the patch behind the cap badge) that makes it no different from ALL the other units/orginisation who wear adapted green berets, PLUS there is no Royal Marine Cap Badge. As for the 'flashes' they're not actually flashes they denote whether that cadet has passed either a marksman cadre or signals cadre, and furthermore they have them specially made up, they are completley unique to that cadet unit.
@PhantomBadass whether there's is a RM cap badge or not doesn't matter, the GREEN BERET is the sign of passing the Commando course, have you're cadets passed any of the commando course's? No i'm guessing, therefore they should wear either the RM recruit berets, or Navy blue berets in line with other cadet forces who's cadets are not allowed to wear the berets of their parent regiment, such as Para ACF, fair enough with the flashes as an adaption of uniform denoting qualifications
@PhantomBadass by the way if you know of any other cadet forces wearing COMMANDO green berets then they also should not, it is wrong, rifle green berets are acceptable for the rifles ACF as the rifles have know advanced course such as the commando's
@TheDrummerboi94 But the green beret being worn by this cadet unit is NOT a commando green beret, it has been adapted just like the rifles green berest and all the toher green beret's
All that in short, your all brainwashed into thinking that the Kent Marine force is the best around, it's not. Want to gain real qualifications and not be surrounded by 10 year olds, join the real royal marine cadets. Theres a reason why we're royal and you lot aren't
@JVolvic Your comment's have made you look VERY imatture so I'm going take a swing and say your a cadet, furthermore if your a Royal Marine Cadet just so you know THERE IS A CODE OF CONDUCT on how you should represent your organisation and you are breaching it, severely. Kent (Marine) CADET Force does not 'slag' off any other cadets forces unlike you are on here they understand that everyones work within the VOLUNTARY youth sector is vital. If you have nothing relevant to say, don't say anything
Yeah your right, it was requested by the actual corps, this is the actual royal marine cadets we're talking about right? Oh your talking about your shit stain of a unit, the Kent marine force? And wow I made put an e at the end of a word, let's write a big long comment about how bad that is shall we? Let's face reality here gentlemen or is the term gentle ten year olds more appropriate? Reality is your unit was founded by a military based man that was refused entry to the real royal marine cade
looks like a good cadet force, im in the royal marines cadets =)
i dont think cadets getting to wear green berets is the best idea ever because they havent done the commando course and i think it sort of makes a green beret not mean as much when you earn it
i would like to say, after reading the comments that alot of you are idiots.a
As a teenager i was part this unit and not being affiliated with the MoD meant that we could do things that the army cadets couldn't at the time when i was there we where aloud to use weapons such as our own personnel blank firers(which we bought our selfs) and flares.
**There are many things you can do that regular army cadets would of got in trouble for **.
BUT most of all it WAS ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE'S we all had.
Not allowed kevlar helmets. Not allowed the green beret. Not allowed desert DPM. Not allowed the SA80. You become a senior cadet within 2 weeks. You recruit 10 year olds. Not allowed the lsw. You ignore the mod's warnings. You parade in desert dpm and wear the green beret of the royal marine commandoes in public. You lot are quite simply, pathetic. Your not commandoes, your not soldiers and your not licensed and yet you still think your the best? Bunch of stubborn disrespectful wankers (Y)
@JVolvic Firstly the beret has been adapted therefore is NOT the RM beret, secondly DPM can be worn by ANYONE that's why the MoD sell it to surplus stores. Thirdly the SA80's and LSW's were LEGALLY bought and ANYONE in the right organisation/groups can purchase them. And fourthly to my knowledge there have been no "warnings" made by the MoD to this cadet unit. Your argument was??
So the ACF Major who on an Excercise and came across KMCF on the same training area, when CPTA had no record of them, is a Liar, The Same Officer who discovered said child driving the Land Rover and when challenged was greeted with a torrent of abuse , is he lying again? P.L.I. does not cover negligence, so I hope that KMCF's standards and sylabus are a stringent as you say they are.
@TheBooty156 I know personally that KMCF all ways pay for the use of MoD land. What was the name of this ACF Major? And yes KMCF's satandard are stringent and yes KMCF have all the right policies in place and have a very rigid system that actually the ACF could learn from, seems like a little bit of JELOUSY is coming through in what your saying.
@TheBooty156 Ok firstly they CAN have thier own sylabus and standard if they are a properly constitued organisation with policies etc which THEY ARE. Secondly organisations CAN purchase airsoft weapong so long as it is through the proper channels ad these weapons were bought legally. As for the Kevlar helmets it's my understanding that since filming their policy on this has been ammended.
@PhantomBadass So standards include using M.o.D Training Areas without permission, Allowing minors to drive Land Rovers on M.o.D. land, allowing children under 12 to fire weapons? Insurance nightmare that one, never mind the Duty of Care issue. Hey ho. Still no answer on the Royal Marine question.
Strikes me the whole unit is run by people who couldn't get into a regular Cadet Unit as Instructors.
@TheBooty156 OK firstly not only do they have permission to use MoD land THEY PAY TO USE IT secondly they do NOT allow minors to drive land rovers nor have they ever and THEY DO HAVE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE as I've seen the certificate. What Royal Marine question? And this is a cadet unti so try again on your usless insults you clearly DON'T HAVE A CLUE about this unit so learn a little before YOU MAKE THINGS UP. Liar.
@PhantomBadass The Royal Marines question? This unit wears British CS95's, it has Marine in it's title, runs Commando courses and awards Green Beret. This Unit is The Royal Marines, it sure as hell isn't KMCF, though they do try to be like them (Wannabes?) You know the standard of response confirms a lot of what I thought when I first saw this video. Denial is not a river when it comes to KMCF, it's a full blown ART FORM! I hear you have an instructor called Hall, say hello from me! Over/ Out!
Just reading the postings since I first raised my head, This video begs the following queries. Does the KMCF have any serving or ex-serving RM DL, PW, LC,or SC"s?
If I had a penny for every 'youtube royal marine' I met on here I'd be a rich individual, so what's your number? What company are you serving with? Also I spoke to someone form this unit who has told me a very interesting fact, they wrote letters to 42 Commando during their deployment in Afghanistan earlier this year and they recieved a reply from the Sgt Mjr and the unit padre and they approved of the unit AND what they do. They were extremely grateful for the units support.
The Green Beret is awarded to all members of the Armed Forces on successfully completing the Commando Course. The Green Beret is ONLY worn by those who have completed 36 weeks of the "hardest basic infantry training in the world".. IT IS NOT awarded to children, IT IS| NOT awarded for just carrying a Bergen, Men have died trying to get one of these, and those that have it are rightly a bit miffed if small children and "Instructors" gain it for simply attending a uniformed youth club!
@TheBooty156 I can see you only joined YouTube on the 18th, so which one of the guys below are you? Sabbertinitani? LC128? It's sad that to back up your argument you create youtube account to make it SEEM as iff more poeple follow your close minded, arrogant and pitiful views.
@sabbertinitani Your still missing out the fact that a patch has been put on the beret as well as the use of a different cap badge for all intense purposes this is NOT a Royal Marine Beret, there are lot's of unit/regiments and organisations that wear green lids that have either been adapted or have different cap badges, yet you don't get onto them? Wonder why that is? Coward.
booty is not me fella i dont need people to back up my argument on here...just to point out a few things:
the other units that have 'green lids' use a totaly different shade of green the shade that RM and this cadet unit use is known as commando green
i would also like to point out i am a serving bootneck and i have just returned from a front line tour of afgan so i think your way of the mark with the coward comment
@sabbertinitani And another things ig you really are a serving Royal Marine you should try reading your Code Of Conduct, you'll find an interesting section in there about how you should conduct yourself in public forums on or offline and I pretty sure what your doing right now is in breach of that Code Of Conduct, another thing what's your clothing allowance?
no i know all to well fella, cadets are one thing bieng kids an all but cadet instructors are another, i know there type (i used to be a proper marine cadet instructor) ...walts to the last man
yer mate you enjoy yourself swanning round in a beret that "you will wear if you want" ...people have to earn that lid....forget the commando course...people fight and lads die for it so maybe you should wind it in...civvie prick
spoken by a toss pot who has not had to earn anything, the instructors are wearing green berets, end of fucking dit ive just blown your argument right out of the water....walt
These young people have worked tirelessly for many years, never complaining, to create a safe, secure, fun yet disciplined environment for the people of a very underprivileged area of their home town!
They are not on the streets drinking alcohol,taking drugs, smashing up cars, mugging the vulnerable!! If you were to ask me, I would like to think that the brave Royal Marines would be proud that these young cadets for achieving goals that make them better people too.
Thanks for your comments about my spelling! im right your wrong! And at the end of the day we will wear and continue to wear the green lid! We are not MOD affiliated which is why we can get away with it! and yes they dont just walk in and get a green lid its takes 2years to earn and for thier age is pretty strenuos! Now if you wouldn't mind please keep your opinions to yourself..
@PhantomBadass - my understanding was that civvies could fire, but only using weapons they possessed, so a military calibre is thus out of the question. Also, am i imagining it, or was one of the instructors teaching about pistols... They've been completely illegal for at least a decade now.
@joker1986ism - I think you have the potential to upset a large number of serving and ex- RM personnel there. The Green Lid is earnt - not bought. have you ever done the commando tests? Google them.
@NJG53kommandant Pistols are only illegal to the general public, cadet forces, re-enactment groups and theatrical groups are still aloud to use them blank firiing ofcourse. As for the green beret, you can clearly see this unit wears a patch behind there cap badge as well as having an independant cap badge so no link to RM there only the colour of the beret which many other or organisations and regiments wear. If this unit should be slammed for the colour of their beret then so should the others.
i from the marine cadet detachment of TS. Active (waterlooville) marine cadets is great, its taught me alot and iv made some excellent mates along the way. as for berets we get given the blue one with the red backing for the globe and laurel (the ones Royal marine recruits are given) its a shame you guys dont wear the globe and laural but i guess that wouldnt be aloud seeing as u got green berets. keep up the good work lads
I do not like the comments that are being made about my cadets! and if there is a problem with us wearing a green beret then why are they sold! we will wear wat colours we want and suit us not you lot! keep your opinions to yourself! if u dont like it dont watch it!
@joker1986ism so the lads who done 32 weeks of the TOUGHEST military training in the WORLD get theres but ur lads can just stole on in and get on without all that hard work, yea nice one
If you look on thier website it does say that it takes 2 years for a cadet to earn their green beret but they also make it clear they are not trying to pass this off or themselves as royal marines or anything near equivalent thats why they have a patch on the beret to make it different from the RM beret. It's just a colour at the end of the day, they have a different cap badge and a patch too so whats the fuss? Lots of orgnisations wear green lids for different reasons and they don't get abuse.
@LC128 I fail to see how giving kids a goal in life and something for them to achieve and work towards, and presenting them with something that they spend two years working hard for, something that they know is very special and something they are very proud of and treat with a great amount of respect is "pissing" all over it, to be honest. Poeple like YOU who throw abuse at harmless KIDS for something as silly as a colour make ME sick.
@sabbertinitani "civvie prick" I think your as closed minded as it gets, the green beret has been adapted to ensure it is NOT confused with the RM green beret, but obviously all you want is an argument, PLUS they wear a different cap badge, but agian that seems to have slipt your mind. Trouble is mate these guys seem to work prerry hard in treating the Green Beret with respect and ensuring it's good name is kept intact, but again you clearly don't know a damn thing about their unit.
@joker1986ism Shops sell lots of stuff, SAS sand berets, Maroon Para Berets, Waffen SS helmets, Samurai swords, all of which people buy and covet because they make themselves feel bigger than they really are. The military term for such people are "Walts" after Walter Mitty. Your video is interesting. a so caled Marine cadet unit doing Army drill, weapons instructors who can2t name the proper parts of an LSW, and small children apparently wearing Kevlar helmets?
@TheBooty156 There was no lesson on the parts of the LSW in the video, from what I can see it was only on carriage and supporting thw weapon in firing posistions, so what are you talking about? They may be a Marine cadet unit but as they have expressed several times they are NOT Royal Marine cadets therefore they make their own standards and sylbus that's probably why they chose to do army drill. At the end of the day if you don't like what you see DON'T WATCH THE VIDEO, simple as that.
@PhantomBadass There lies the basic problem, you claim that they are marine cadets and some wear the Commando Green Beret, and in this country that is only associated with THE ROYAL MARINES. As for your comment that "they make their own standards and sylabus" , as far as I understand it ALL military uniformed Cadet organisations have to comply BY LAW with standards and sylabus laid down by organisations such as the MoD, the H.S.E and the Home Office. You cannot set your own standards and sylabus
@PhantomBadass Let's talk about the Video. Under the Violent Behaviour Act of 2006, it is against the Law for any organisation to use Airsoft weapons unless they are the following. Film /Theatre group, Re-enactors, Museums or Crown Servants. Let's talk about under-16s wearing Kevlar Helmets , Forbidden by the Army Cadet Safety Manual (A cmpulsary safety guide for all Cadet units) Gary Carmichael states "This os one of the sights" when it should be identified as the rear iron sight.
@TheBooty156 Firstly yes you can set your own standards and slybuses if your are constituted self supporting organisation with your own policies etc which they are. These sort of groups alos CAN buy airsoft weapons so long as it's through the proper channels, these weapons WERE bought legally, as for the Kevlar helmets form what I understand since filming thier policies on them have been ammended.
@TheBooty156 Ok firstly they CAN have thier own sylabus and standard if they are a properly constitued organisation with policies etc which THEY ARE. Secondly organisations CAN purchase airsoft weapong so long as it is through the proper channels ad these weapons were bought legally. As for the Kevlar helmets it's my understanding that since filming their policy on this has been ammended.
@TheBooty156 Secondly the instructor simply said "you've got your two sights aswell" and then went onto explain the SUSAT because he was explaining the TWO DIFFERENT types of sigh found on the L86 the SUSAT and the Iron Sight undoubtedly he would have went onto talk about the iron sight too. He DOES NOT say "this is one of the sights" As I said before if you don't like what you see here, please feel free too, GO ELSE WHERE, your negative comments are not needed nor wanted.
@TheBooty156@TheBooty156 Ok firstly they CAN have thier own sylabus and standard if they are a properly constitued organisation with policies etc which THEY ARE. Secondly organisations CAN purchase airsoft weapong so long as it is through the proper channels ad these weapons were bought legally. As for the Kevlar helmets it's my understanding that since filming their policy on this has been ammended.
their not marine cadets becuase the cadets arent wearing marine training berets (black with the red) and they are not wearing the corps cap bagde so they are defonatly not marines :/
@ivladimirx From what I understand they are NOT supported by the MoD therefore wouldn't bear the usual isignia. At the end of the day they are a Youth organisation I thing we are all losing sight of what this is really about, it's not about the royal Marines, the MoD, The green beret or rifle drill it is about giving young poeple a place to go and goals to achieve to help keep them on the straight and narrow and too make something of themselves.
were the hell did they get the neck to wear green lids, nothing about this is anything like the corps, at least the marine cadets adopt corps culture this lot just look like pongos. combat jackets with the draw cords not done up, stable belts, crap army drill everyone generaly just looking like a scran bag.
@sabbertinitani Get a grip?! You come on here and slate a bunch of KIDS and then tell them to get a grip, I think it's you that needs to get a grip mate or at least get a life as I have already said they are a Youth organisation, we are all losing sight of what this is really about, it's not about the Royal Marines, The green beret or rifle drill it is about giving young poeple a place to go and goals to achieve to help keep them on the straight and narrow and too make something of themselves.
Marine cadets doing Army drill? Green lids..Gopping. Are the tests to get your cadet green lids endorsed by the corps in any which way ? The staff wearing green lids? Any of them ex royal? They make do with what they have, reasnobly well. But shouldnt wear the green lid or do pongo drill!
It's a shame their drill's somewhat poor... An interesting take on the Present arms. Also, No MOD support? I can see firing 5.56mm being a problem then. (And they're not GP rifles)
@NJG53kommandant You don't have to be part of the MoD to live fire infact DTE (Defence Training Estates) are usually quite willing to allow civilian organisations acces to these things at a price ofcourse. and from what I can see these weapons are only immitations and not Live firing, probably only for drill purposes.
these are not standed marine cadets as there wearing green lids and there not wearing the marine cap badge and i would look to know cadets would get susats
Are they holding real Enfields?!
airborne101st45 4 months ago
@airborne101st45
Most likely L98 A2 Cadet GP rifles.
ShadowRSonic 3 months ago
@airborne101st45 LOL NO its called the L98 A2 cadet gp rifle a cadet version of the sa80 a2
MrSpiky160 1 month ago
Buncha fuckin downeys y cant they just leave their fuckin helmets alone. And nobody joins cadets to make friends they join to shoot shit and they only say that they joined to make friends cos it sounds better than them saying they joined to shoot guns. Y is it that hardly any normal people join cadet forces y is it mainly drips that join like this lot
TheRealRyan1000 6 months ago
@TheRealRyan1000 YOU SIR NEED TO GO JUMP OFF A CLIFF. you do join cadets to make friends you have to pass certain things before you begin shooting you dont just go and they hand you a rifle
JDRUMMOND46 2 weeks ago
hold up if your not connected to the MOD then where dose your weapons and amunition come from?
bearsaurus1 6 months ago
@bearsaurus1they are connected but they do there own fundraising not like other cadet detachments who are given money
JDRUMMOND46 2 weeks ago
America only has sea cadets and Im one. I wish they had this in america.
baberaider18 7 months ago
@baberaider18 No you guys chave army cadets and im sure they will have USMC cadets aswell, do a little research on google as to where your closed detachment is and just go alon and talk to them, about it :)
ThePandaMan1996 4 months ago
LOL. This looks ridiculous. Those little children. Not that bad though.
StivenCabrera3 10 months ago
can i just say any one that is going to leave a negative comment DONT! if yo dont like it dont watch it .
thechazz08 1 year ago
KMCF= Kent Cadet Academy
firepower09 1 year ago
Fantastic video lads and lasses! I can't belive that people like to pick on the stupid and tiny negative things. The skill and commitment is amazing surely that should over rule all these negative comments.
It's nice to see something like this that stops children going down the wrong path and maybe help them taking up a career in the army.
Keep up the good work and thank you to all those staff members ecpecially who have been there and are there now! :-)
Daniaimee67 1 year ago 4
Keep up the good work lads XD
moagqwerty1 1 year ago 2
... And before I get asked this question "Are you currently serving or have you served in the armed forces?"
The answer is No - If I could I would but I have been rejected because of a current underlining medical condition since birth :(
moagqwerty1 1 year ago 4
... is by far the best out of the two (SLATE ME LATER). Every year we pay our respects to those who have fallen. The way I see it is, the RM, SAS, Army, Naval, Air Force are one massive 'Gang' but without a doubt it is just the British Military - your all doing and fighting for the same things? PEACE and Freedom? Kids? You are all role models that the kids look up to?
If you slate this then you are disrespecting your own Monarch to whom your serving....
moagqwerty1 1 year ago 4
We are all beating round the bush here, So what if the members of staff are wearing the GB as far as im concerned they have grown up with the Cadet unit, from a young age to instructor level "Giving back to the community!". We have the up most respect for the RM who cares about what colour lid it is. In fact, a famous song springs to mind : Michael Jackson - Black or White 'it doesn't matter!!'. Personally I joined when I was 12, prior to joining KMCF I attended ACF for a short while but KMCF...
moagqwerty1 1 year ago 3
KMCF = Lnce crprl Willcox
KMCFISTHEBEST 1 year ago 5
pathetic, swearing at us and telling us to leave. it's upsetting to think something so harmful as a green lid could spark such a huge contraversy. and Boys from the cadet unit try not to sin k to there level too much, coz really we know they're jelous and that they need a life, and well we're clearly better then them... @gingerchipsrmc, @BROMLEY58, @TheBooty156
please read the first two parts below
KMCFISTHEBEST 1 year ago 6
... years old, plus the green beret is adapted to push us away from the 'Real' royals. You sea cadets are just jealous that we're supported by the RNA (Royal naval assocciation), who used to support you until you screwed them over, now look whos getting the money. you really think your truly pathetic comments affect us, it just makes you look like sad immature little scruff's. honestly its pathetic how your instructors tell you to slag us off, when we saw you at radnor you really acted...
KMCFISTHEBEST 1 year ago 4
Right, how old are you, im a cadet at the kent marine cadet force and its the greatest thing thats ever happened to me, it gives me 4 hours a week to get away from everything and be myself, and not have to worry about being judged. plus you contradict yourselves proving your no that smart, you have a go at us for being too much like Royal marines yet you tell us off for doing Army parade, come on get a life you jealous bunch off ass's i mean really, half the kids on that video are 13....
KMCFISTHEBEST 1 year ago 5
is this for real?? some fat sweaty man sat at home with his laptop resting on his belly is slagging off a cadet unit that gets children off of the streets, gives them goals and provides them with structure and discipline. DO YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO? porn hub? all these negative comments are like water off a ducks back to the KMCF you think slagging them off makes a difference to them? it just makes them prouder as a unit knowing someone is jealous.
dicedge 1 year ago 3
If you havent got anything positive to say then dont bother, that way there isnt going to be any arguments or disagreements if it bothers you that much then why not contact the unit and tell them your issues and help change these things!!
connorS755 1 year ago 3
Right why can't every one understand we are not supported by the MoD and are not Royal marine cadets we wear the green beret with a unique cap badge and patch ( with the unit colours) it's a bunch of kids it's not like there walking round saying I'm a royal marine commando is it? All kmcf is trying to do is provide a fun environment for kids to pick up some new skills so just leave them alone.!
thechazz08 1 year ago 2
@gingerchipsrmc I agree with Psykaze.
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shedigsmeHEHE 1 year ago
Isn't really imature that people have to take offence or get annoyed at the fact that some people are trying to better the lives of children and show them important life skills. This is about the youth that attend the cadet unit and nothing else, the instructors put time and effort into teaching the cadets new skills whether they are military or social it all makes a difference. Finally, what is the problem with wearing the green beret, the cadets have earnt the right to wear it. :)
Abeneplacito1 1 year ago 8
your drills wrong if your a marine cadet unit you should be doin royal marines drill not pongo and they shouldnt be wearing green lids unless theyve earned them as some say its not fair because proffsional royals marines have to do 32 weeks of training to earn theres end ex
gingerchipsrmc 1 year ago
@gingerchipsrmc Your just repeating what a lot of poeple have said, you could have just read previous posts so that we don't all ahve to keep repeating ourselves...ok so firstly...they do army drill because that is what they ahve chosen (THEY ARE NOT ROYAL MARINE CADETS nor are they trying to be nor do they want to be) and the green berets have been adapted (unique cap badge and flash) so that they DO NOT resemble royal marine berets.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@gingerchipsrmc Why would you not just support the people trying to help make kids better? Discipline, respect and teaching structure are really important qualities. It's disappointing that you wouldn't just want to support positive organisations like this.
Psykaze 1 year ago 4
Wow! what a fantastic thing the staff members are doing here. not only are they teaching respect and discipline like all other cadet units, but are also raising the funds to run it themselves! that must give each and every member, staff and cadet alike, a really great sense of self achievment? keep up the good work guy. Brilliant. Just fucking fantastic :)
Flash5898 1 year ago 11
@Flash5898 yeah well the royal marine commando cadets are part of the mod so there training is almost the same as the actuall marines
BritMarine101 6 months ago
Feel free to help under-privalged kids, that's great. There are great Youth clubs and workers doing just that. all over, another one would hep a lot!. But from your arguements here and before, the blatant contridictions of your arguements, you and the rest of the staff are using these kids as a cover and as an excuse to excercise your own sad fantasies of being Commandos, when in reality you have no idea. And AGAIN please remember NO ONE IS GETTING AT THE KIDS, IT'S YOU STAFF, YOU MORON!
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 Right not getting at the kids? Depsite the fact your slagging of thier unit and yeh nice try but I'm not a member of staff just close to this unit, and I can vouch for the members of staff thier and that is...THEY ARE ALL EX-CADETS so no fantasies there just poeple who liked the place so much they've never left. Now as I've said many times go and slag off someone elses video I'm bored of you.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
So if you still don,t get it, try imagining this. Change your name to Kent (Para) Cadet Force or Kent (SAS) Cadet Force. Then perhaps award you Cadets and selves Medals. Make them look like Victoria Cross,s or George Medals. Use SF Para wings while your at it. After all you are an "Independent" Cadet Unit and the "MoD shouldn,t sell them" Imagine the reaction you,d get.
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 No because as I HAVE SAID KMCF do NOT wear RM cap badges and the beret has been adapted and they do not use the word ROYAL marine, Marine just means sea or water, like lots of organisations that use that work like Marine Engineers, do you slag them off for using the word...NO becuase IT'S JUST A WORD. I only mentioned the 10k becuase you said instructors just don a beret when that is not the case they DO work for it...I'm not arguing that the RM course is completely different.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 And YES it was a REAL ex Royal Marine who came to KMCF in 1982 and introduced the Green Beret he said he wanted to give the kids that go to the unit something to strive for and to earn, something they can learn to respect. But ofcourse a small minded, arrogant, sellfish indvidual like yourself doesn't see the fact this is a YOUTH CLUB providing a service to under privelged KIDS you just want to slate and be spiteful. Well be spiteful somewhere else I'm not interested in your views.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
Do you think that the fac t to run 10km entitles you to wear the Green Beret? The Green Beret is awarded to people who have passed the "Hardest Infantry Training Course in the World", It is awarded after 36 weeks of Hell on earth, where people have died just trying to gain it. To qualify for training you must be A1 in terms of Health and Fitness. Once won you are a Commando, and become part of a proud and honoured few, and remain so for the rest of your life!!! It is not given for running 10k!
TheBooty156 1 year ago
All youth organisations are GOVERNED by the laws,but who INDEPENDENTLY overseas them. For example you own and use airsoft SA80s and LSWs yet are you UKARA registered as specified by the VCRA? If so under what of the 4 dispensations? Museum? Re-enactment group? Skirmish club? MoD sponsored organisation?
Your Royal Marine who "awarded" the KMCF the Green Beret must either be a fiction o was a Walter. NO ONE who has\ ever passed out of CTCRM would cheapen its award in this way!
TheBooty156 1 year ago
Yet it begs the question who has overview and regualtes policies other organisations have to adhere to, like Child Protection, Health and Safety, Firearms training, etc. D) It's staff appear to relish the idea of parading around in Green Berets, cheapening the effort those of us who sweated blood sweat and tears it takes to gain one.
So if you as staff want to be in a Marine Cadet Unit, join the Royal Marines Cadets in Folkestone (there is one you know) but I doubt you'd make the grade.
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 The Kent (Marine) Cadet Force is goverened by current child protection laws, it's staff have recieved child protection training by government organisation such as VAWK, it has a member of staff who has weapons training (as in how to use weapons safely) it has several memebers of staff who are first aid trained. KMCF must BY LAW have child protection policies H & S policies, vehicle policies, insurance etc most of which can be accessed on thier website.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
KMCF are a complteley stand alone unique unit and what you KEEP doing is trying to compare them to MoD RM Cadet units but this is NOT what they are.KMCF was first established in 1972 but in 1982 a ROYAL MARINE joined them and introduced the Green Beret, for that reason it has been kept (it's a part of thier heritage). Furthermore ALL members of staff who wear the green beret have completed the same test as cader (most are excadets) and all have completed the 10K commando assualt course. Lymstone
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
Me again! I think that PhantomBadass is missing the point of most of the comments made so far. NO ONE IS HAVING A DIG AT THE CADETS. The KMCF as an organisation is what people find odd. A) It calls itself a Marine Cadet unit, but denies any conection to HM Royal Marines B) It issues Green Berets after Cadets do a "Commando Course", but they deny they are Commando Green (Spurious argument methinks) C) It operates independently of the rules governing other MoD sponsored organisations (more)
TheBooty156 1 year ago
you aint marine cadets you homos look at you ur beret bage drill and uniform
sort your selfs out....
BROMLEY58 1 year ago
@BROMLEY58 This is coming from a person that has nothing better to do than POINTLESSLY dig at CADETS on YouTube, I think YOU need to sort YOURSELF out mate.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
you will find recriuts and cadets are ment to be isued with the blue with red tomb stone beret with the royal marine cap badge and also your drill is wrong, you are not ment to bring yout knee up. And your marine cadets in total are not a group your a troop
AaronfrancisNwansi 1 year ago
@AaronfrancisNwansi These are NOT Royal Marine Cadets that is why things are done differently, they are NOT MoD either.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago 2
@yvesleith true apart from this marine cadet detachment weren't formed as a request of the royal marines kent marine cadets are not a part of the royal marines cadets which were formed as a request of the RM, they just one single organisation
scottishkayaker 1 year ago
@ Phantombadass
Tehe gutted I'm not a cadet and I do have something useful to say...you shouldn't have that green beret my friend. You call me disrespectful, why don't you ask what the royal marines think about you wearing a beret that they have to work their arses off for almost 3 quarters of a year to get and then we'll see who's the disrespectful one sunshine.
JVolvic 1 year ago
@JVolvic Instead of me asking why don't you ask? The Royal Marine's who met this cadet unit & support it, OR ask the 42 commando chaplin who sent this cadet unit a letter a couple of years ago thanking them very much (because ALL the cadets wrote letters to members of 42 commando during their tour of afghanistan) the chaplin even said they had recieved NO letters from ANY MoD cadets, must be that RESPECT you were talking about. Or perhaps ask the many ex cadets who have become Royal Marines!
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass your not MOD cadets and anyone that writes a letter to any troops in afghan will probably get a letter of thanks from the person that received it. and if your royal marine cadets what company are you in and have you ever been Gibraltar cup because i have.... so no
BROMLEY58 1 year ago
@BROMLEY58 I have stated several times on this page of you read the comments, that this cadet unit is NOT supported by or affliated to the MoD, that is made very clear.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass well if you spelled properly and made sure that your video said the right stuff we wouldn't be in this situation would we .....
BROMLEY58 1 year ago
@BROMLEY58 Spelled what properly? And I suggest you watch the video more thoroughly it states several times that this unit is not affliated to or supported by the Ministry of Defence.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@DeepBreathBassist No, they are NOT Royal Marine cadets which they state very clearly, they are a completeley self supported, stand alone unit, who do thier own drill and have thier own unique sylabus, they can not be compared to anything because they are unique, that's kind of the point!
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
A base layer of brown not green they look like twats with light green faces.
MW2xVidz 1 year ago
very sloppy drill i must say, and whats with the green berets? and back flashes and TRF's? the green beret is the sign or passing th Commado course, cadet's wearing them is derogatory to the Royal Marines and all past Commando's you may as well wear a beige beret and say you're SAS or SRR
TheDrummerboi94 1 year ago
@TheDrummerboi94 But not if the beret has been adapted (the patch behind the cap badge) that makes it no different from ALL the other units/orginisation who wear adapted green berets, PLUS there is no Royal Marine Cap Badge. As for the 'flashes' they're not actually flashes they denote whether that cadet has passed either a marksman cadre or signals cadre, and furthermore they have them specially made up, they are completley unique to that cadet unit.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass whether there's is a RM cap badge or not doesn't matter, the GREEN BERET is the sign of passing the Commando course, have you're cadets passed any of the commando course's? No i'm guessing, therefore they should wear either the RM recruit berets, or Navy blue berets in line with other cadet forces who's cadets are not allowed to wear the berets of their parent regiment, such as Para ACF, fair enough with the flashes as an adaption of uniform denoting qualifications
TheDrummerboi94 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass by the way if you know of any other cadet forces wearing COMMANDO green berets then they also should not, it is wrong, rifle green berets are acceptable for the rifles ACF as the rifles have know advanced course such as the commando's
TheDrummerboi94 1 year ago
@TheDrummerboi94 But the green beret being worn by this cadet unit is NOT a commando green beret, it has been adapted just like the rifles green berest and all the toher green beret's
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass fair enough, hard to tell from the video
TheDrummerboi94 1 year ago
All that in short, your all brainwashed into thinking that the Kent Marine force is the best around, it's not. Want to gain real qualifications and not be surrounded by 10 year olds, join the real royal marine cadets. Theres a reason why we're royal and you lot aren't
JVolvic 1 year ago
@JVolvic Your comment's have made you look VERY imatture so I'm going take a swing and say your a cadet, furthermore if your a Royal Marine Cadet just so you know THERE IS A CODE OF CONDUCT on how you should represent your organisation and you are breaching it, severely. Kent (Marine) CADET Force does not 'slag' off any other cadets forces unlike you are on here they understand that everyones work within the VOLUNTARY youth sector is vital. If you have nothing relevant to say, don't say anything
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
Yeah your right, it was requested by the actual corps, this is the actual royal marine cadets we're talking about right? Oh your talking about your shit stain of a unit, the Kent marine force? And wow I made put an e at the end of a word, let's write a big long comment about how bad that is shall we? Let's face reality here gentlemen or is the term gentle ten year olds more appropriate? Reality is your unit was founded by a military based man that was refused entry to the real royal marine cade
JVolvic 1 year ago
@JVolvic there 10 yr olds so stfu u virgin and gfto this vid
WhosquiK 8 months ago
notice how those are all BB guns apart from the LSW which looks real
scottishkayaker 1 year ago
looks like a good cadet force, im in the royal marines cadets =)
i dont think cadets getting to wear green berets is the best idea ever because they havent done the commando course and i think it sort of makes a green beret not mean as much when you earn it
jst my opinion
scottishkayaker 1 year ago
lol Joker.i was the original Joker.....looked just like joker in full metal jacket when he was running through the mud.
chilledolay 1 year ago
i would like to say, after reading the comments that alot of you are idiots.a
As a teenager i was part this unit and not being affiliated with the MoD meant that we could do things that the army cadets couldn't at the time when i was there we where aloud to use weapons such as our own personnel blank firers(which we bought our selfs) and flares.
**There are many things you can do that regular army cadets would of got in trouble for **.
BUT most of all it WAS ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE'S we all had.
chilledolay 1 year ago 3
P.s Your cadets cant even reach the pistol grip and your illegally worn helmets clearly dont fit
JVolvic 1 year ago
Not allowed kevlar helmets. Not allowed the green beret. Not allowed desert DPM. Not allowed the SA80. You become a senior cadet within 2 weeks. You recruit 10 year olds. Not allowed the lsw. You ignore the mod's warnings. You parade in desert dpm and wear the green beret of the royal marine commandoes in public. You lot are quite simply, pathetic. Your not commandoes, your not soldiers and your not licensed and yet you still think your the best? Bunch of stubborn disrespectful wankers (Y)
JVolvic 1 year ago
@JVolvic Firstly the beret has been adapted therefore is NOT the RM beret, secondly DPM can be worn by ANYONE that's why the MoD sell it to surplus stores. Thirdly the SA80's and LSW's were LEGALLY bought and ANYONE in the right organisation/groups can purchase them. And fourthly to my knowledge there have been no "warnings" made by the MoD to this cadet unit. Your argument was??
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
who is this muppet thebooty156?? go get a life your comments soooooo boring!!!
joker1986ism 1 year ago
So the ACF Major who on an Excercise and came across KMCF on the same training area, when CPTA had no record of them, is a Liar, The Same Officer who discovered said child driving the Land Rover and when challenged was greeted with a torrent of abuse , is he lying again? P.L.I. does not cover negligence, so I hope that KMCF's standards and sylabus are a stringent as you say they are.
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 I know personally that KMCF all ways pay for the use of MoD land. What was the name of this ACF Major? And yes KMCF's satandard are stringent and yes KMCF have all the right policies in place and have a very rigid system that actually the ACF could learn from, seems like a little bit of JELOUSY is coming through in what your saying.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 Ok firstly they CAN have thier own sylabus and standard if they are a properly constitued organisation with policies etc which THEY ARE. Secondly organisations CAN purchase airsoft weapong so long as it is through the proper channels ad these weapons were bought legally. As for the Kevlar helmets it's my understanding that since filming their policy on this has been ammended.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass So standards include using M.o.D Training Areas without permission, Allowing minors to drive Land Rovers on M.o.D. land, allowing children under 12 to fire weapons? Insurance nightmare that one, never mind the Duty of Care issue. Hey ho. Still no answer on the Royal Marine question.
Strikes me the whole unit is run by people who couldn't get into a regular Cadet Unit as Instructors.
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 OK firstly not only do they have permission to use MoD land THEY PAY TO USE IT secondly they do NOT allow minors to drive land rovers nor have they ever and THEY DO HAVE PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE as I've seen the certificate. What Royal Marine question? And this is a cadet unti so try again on your usless insults you clearly DON'T HAVE A CLUE about this unit so learn a little before YOU MAKE THINGS UP. Liar.
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TheBooty156 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass The Royal Marines question? This unit wears British CS95's, it has Marine in it's title, runs Commando courses and awards Green Beret. This Unit is The Royal Marines, it sure as hell isn't KMCF, though they do try to be like them (Wannabes?) You know the standard of response confirms a lot of what I thought when I first saw this video. Denial is not a river when it comes to KMCF, it's a full blown ART FORM! I hear you have an instructor called Hall, say hello from me! Over/ Out!
TheBooty156 1 year ago
Just reading the postings since I first raised my head, This video begs the following queries. Does the KMCF have any serving or ex-serving RM DL, PW, LC,or SC"s?
TheBooty156 1 year ago
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@PhantomBadass
i have no idea what my clothing allowance is nor would any other bootneck you asked.
42 commando were not in afghanistan earlyer this year it was 40..i know because i was there.
im not going to broadcast my number on the net you fuking idiot
you know what unit im in from what ive just said
im not going to broadcast what company either.
you keep telling yourselvs your all hoofing and everyone approves of you wearing green lids..il go get on with bieng an actual commando
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
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@PhantomBadass
i have no idea what my clothing allowance is nor would any other bootneck you asked.
42 commando were not in afghanistan earlyer this year it was 40..i know because i was there.
im not going to broadcast my number on the net you fuking idiot
you know what unit im in from what ive just said
im not going to broadcast what company either.
you keep telling yourselvs your all hoofing and everyone approves of you wearing green lids..il go get on with bieng an actual commando
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
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@PhantomBadass
i have no idea what my clothing allowance is nor would any other bootneck you asked.
42 commando were not in afghanistan earlyer this year it was 40..i know because i was there.
im not going to broadcast my number on the net you fuking idiot
you know what unit im in from what ive just said
im not going to broadcast what company either.
you keep telling yourselvs your all hoofing and everyone approves of you wearing green lids..il go get on with bieng an actual commando
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
If I had a penny for every 'youtube royal marine' I met on here I'd be a rich individual, so what's your number? What company are you serving with? Also I spoke to someone form this unit who has told me a very interesting fact, they wrote letters to 42 Commando during their deployment in Afghanistan earlier this year and they recieved a reply from the Sgt Mjr and the unit padre and they approved of the unit AND what they do. They were extremely grateful for the units support.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
The Green Beret is awarded to all members of the Armed Forces on successfully completing the Commando Course. The Green Beret is ONLY worn by those who have completed 36 weeks of the "hardest basic infantry training in the world".. IT IS NOT awarded to children, IT IS| NOT awarded for just carrying a Bergen, Men have died trying to get one of these, and those that have it are rightly a bit miffed if small children and "Instructors" gain it for simply attending a uniformed youth club!
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 I can see you only joined YouTube on the 18th, so which one of the guys below are you? Sabbertinitani? LC128? It's sad that to back up your argument you create youtube account to make it SEEM as iff more poeple follow your close minded, arrogant and pitiful views.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
also the marine cadets attached to the scc wear the non commando trained rm personel lid...whats wrong with that ?
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
@sabbertinitani Your still missing out the fact that a patch has been put on the beret as well as the use of a different cap badge for all intense purposes this is NOT a Royal Marine Beret, there are lot's of unit/regiments and organisations that wear green lids that have either been adapted or have different cap badges, yet you don't get onto them? Wonder why that is? Coward.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass
booty is not me fella i dont need people to back up my argument on here...just to point out a few things:
the other units that have 'green lids' use a totaly different shade of green the shade that RM and this cadet unit use is known as commando green
i would also like to point out i am a serving bootneck and i have just returned from a front line tour of afgan so i think your way of the mark with the coward comment
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass
oh and those other units got belt fed shit to the point were the royal int corps didnt want to put there 'green berets' on
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
@sabbertinitani And another things ig you really are a serving Royal Marine you should try reading your Code Of Conduct, you'll find an interesting section in there about how you should conduct yourself in public forums on or offline and I pretty sure what your doing right now is in breach of that Code Of Conduct, another thing what's your clothing allowance?
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass
i have no idea what my clothing allowance is nor would any other bootneck you asked.
42 commando were not in afghanistan earlyer this year it was 40..i know because i was there.
im not going to broadcast my number on the net you fuking idiot
you know what unit im in from what ive just said
im not going to broadcast what company either.
you keep telling yourselvs your all hoofing and everyone approves of you wearing green lids..il go get on with bieng an actual commando
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass
i have no idea what my clothing allowance is nor would any other bootneck you asked.
42 commando were not in afghanistan earlyer this year it was 40..i know because i was there.
im not going to broadcast my number on the net you fuking idiot
you know what unit im in from what ive just said
im not going to broadcast what company either.
you keep telling yourselvs your all hoofing and everyone approves of you wearing green lids..il go get on with bieng an actual commando
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
no i know all to well fella, cadets are one thing bieng kids an all but cadet instructors are another, i know there type (i used to be a proper marine cadet instructor) ...walts to the last man
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
yer mate you enjoy yourself swanning round in a beret that "you will wear if you want" ...people have to earn that lid....forget the commando course...people fight and lads die for it so maybe you should wind it in...civvie prick
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
spoken by a toss pot who has not had to earn anything, the instructors are wearing green berets, end of fucking dit ive just blown your argument right out of the water....walt
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
Don't forget ....they raise every single penny needed to keep their unit up and running!
EVERY PENNY!!
NO help!!
and EVERY member of staff is a volunteer!
lou2365 1 year ago
These young people have worked tirelessly for many years, never complaining, to create a safe, secure, fun yet disciplined environment for the people of a very underprivileged area of their home town!
They are not on the streets drinking alcohol,taking drugs, smashing up cars, mugging the vulnerable!! If you were to ask me, I would like to think that the brave Royal Marines would be proud that these young cadets for achieving goals that make them better people too.
lou2365 1 year ago
Having read the many comments on this video, ranging from the positve to the very negative I have been compelled to compose my own comments!
I would like to say that I am familiar with this cadet unit and the one word that springs to mind everytime I come across them is INSPIRATIONAL!
lou2365 1 year ago
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lou2365 1 year ago
Thanks for your comments about my spelling! im right your wrong! And at the end of the day we will wear and continue to wear the green lid! We are not MOD affiliated which is why we can get away with it! and yes they dont just walk in and get a green lid its takes 2years to earn and for thier age is pretty strenuos! Now if you wouldn't mind please keep your opinions to yourself..
joker1986ism 1 year ago
joker1986isn you spelt colors wrong
bryansth15 1 year ago
@bryansth15 No in Britain colors is spelt COLOURS, colors is the American spelling so unless your American you are spelling it wrong.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@bryansth15 In the United Kingdom we spell colours like that.
NathanAndrewLonsdale 1 year ago
wow i wish we could use helmets, we're stuck with the crappy bush hats
DANIELSUTCLIFFE 1 year ago 2
@PhantomBadass - my understanding was that civvies could fire, but only using weapons they possessed, so a military calibre is thus out of the question. Also, am i imagining it, or was one of the instructors teaching about pistols... They've been completely illegal for at least a decade now.
@joker1986ism - I think you have the potential to upset a large number of serving and ex- RM personnel there. The Green Lid is earnt - not bought. have you ever done the commando tests? Google them.
NJG53kommandant 1 year ago
@NJG53kommandant Pistols are only illegal to the general public, cadet forces, re-enactment groups and theatrical groups are still aloud to use them blank firiing ofcourse. As for the green beret, you can clearly see this unit wears a patch behind there cap badge as well as having an independant cap badge so no link to RM there only the colour of the beret which many other or organisations and regiments wear. If this unit should be slammed for the colour of their beret then so should the others.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
nice video, looks like a good cadet unit! :)
TheBluelight87 1 year ago 3
i from the marine cadet detachment of TS. Active (waterlooville) marine cadets is great, its taught me alot and iv made some excellent mates along the way. as for berets we get given the blue one with the red backing for the globe and laurel (the ones Royal marine recruits are given) its a shame you guys dont wear the globe and laural but i guess that wouldnt be aloud seeing as u got green berets. keep up the good work lads
Cadet Cpl Laming
rees45603 1 year ago 3
@rees45603 Finally a level headed response, thankyou Cpl Laming and the same to you guys :)
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
nice one lads
CONNER3497 1 year ago 3
great video!! great unit!! enough said.
Mrwhisper2010 1 year ago 6
I do not like the comments that are being made about my cadets! and if there is a problem with us wearing a green beret then why are they sold! we will wear wat colours we want and suit us not you lot! keep your opinions to yourself! if u dont like it dont watch it!
joker1986ism 1 year ago 9
@joker1986ism so the lads who done 32 weeks of the TOUGHEST military training in the WORLD get theres but ur lads can just stole on in and get on without all that hard work, yea nice one
iwannagoafghan 1 year ago
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PhantomBadass 1 year ago
If you look on thier website it does say that it takes 2 years for a cadet to earn their green beret but they also make it clear they are not trying to pass this off or themselves as royal marines or anything near equivalent thats why they have a patch on the beret to make it different from the RM beret. It's just a colour at the end of the day, they have a different cap badge and a patch too so whats the fuss? Lots of orgnisations wear green lids for different reasons and they don't get abuse.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@joker1986ism thats great for you mate but your just pissing on every think that the real ROYALS do to get there green lid you make me sick
LC128 1 year ago
@LC128 I fail to see how giving kids a goal in life and something for them to achieve and work towards, and presenting them with something that they spend two years working hard for, something that they know is very special and something they are very proud of and treat with a great amount of respect is "pissing" all over it, to be honest. Poeple like YOU who throw abuse at harmless KIDS for something as silly as a colour make ME sick.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass as silly as a colour......lads have died...recently for that silly colour so maybe you should thin out
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
@sabbertinitani "civvie prick" I think your as closed minded as it gets, the green beret has been adapted to ensure it is NOT confused with the RM green beret, but obviously all you want is an argument, PLUS they wear a different cap badge, but agian that seems to have slipt your mind. Trouble is mate these guys seem to work prerry hard in treating the Green Beret with respect and ensuring it's good name is kept intact, but again you clearly don't know a damn thing about their unit.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@joker1986ism Shops sell lots of stuff, SAS sand berets, Maroon Para Berets, Waffen SS helmets, Samurai swords, all of which people buy and covet because they make themselves feel bigger than they really are. The military term for such people are "Walts" after Walter Mitty. Your video is interesting. a so caled Marine cadet unit doing Army drill, weapons instructors who can2t name the proper parts of an LSW, and small children apparently wearing Kevlar helmets?
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 There was no lesson on the parts of the LSW in the video, from what I can see it was only on carriage and supporting thw weapon in firing posistions, so what are you talking about? They may be a Marine cadet unit but as they have expressed several times they are NOT Royal Marine cadets therefore they make their own standards and sylbus that's probably why they chose to do army drill. At the end of the day if you don't like what you see DON'T WATCH THE VIDEO, simple as that.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass There lies the basic problem, you claim that they are marine cadets and some wear the Commando Green Beret, and in this country that is only associated with THE ROYAL MARINES. As for your comment that "they make their own standards and sylabus" , as far as I understand it ALL military uniformed Cadet organisations have to comply BY LAW with standards and sylabus laid down by organisations such as the MoD, the H.S.E and the Home Office. You cannot set your own standards and sylabus
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@PhantomBadass Let's talk about the Video. Under the Violent Behaviour Act of 2006, it is against the Law for any organisation to use Airsoft weapons unless they are the following. Film /Theatre group, Re-enactors, Museums or Crown Servants. Let's talk about under-16s wearing Kevlar Helmets , Forbidden by the Army Cadet Safety Manual (A cmpulsary safety guide for all Cadet units) Gary Carmichael states "This os one of the sights" when it should be identified as the rear iron sight.
TheBooty156 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 Firstly yes you can set your own standards and slybuses if your are constituted self supporting organisation with your own policies etc which they are. These sort of groups alos CAN buy airsoft weapons so long as it's through the proper channels, these weapons WERE bought legally, as for the Kevlar helmets form what I understand since filming thier policies on them have been ammended.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
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@TheBooty156 Ok firstly they CAN have thier own sylabus and standard if they are a properly constitued organisation with policies etc which THEY ARE. Secondly organisations CAN purchase airsoft weapong so long as it is through the proper channels ad these weapons were bought legally. As for the Kevlar helmets it's my understanding that since filming their policy on this has been ammended.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 Secondly the instructor simply said "you've got your two sights aswell" and then went onto explain the SUSAT because he was explaining the TWO DIFFERENT types of sigh found on the L86 the SUSAT and the Iron Sight undoubtedly he would have went onto talk about the iron sight too. He DOES NOT say "this is one of the sights" As I said before if you don't like what you see here, please feel free too, GO ELSE WHERE, your negative comments are not needed nor wanted.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
@TheBooty156 @TheBooty156 Ok firstly they CAN have thier own sylabus and standard if they are a properly constitued organisation with policies etc which THEY ARE. Secondly organisations CAN purchase airsoft weapong so long as it is through the proper channels ad these weapons were bought legally. As for the Kevlar helmets it's my understanding that since filming their policy on this has been ammended.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
If they are self supporting the how the hell do the have SUSAT for every gun???
and yes that is a very shit take on rifle drill!!
seacadetsrock 1 year ago
shut up you dicks
firepower09 1 year ago 4
their not marine cadets becuase the cadets arent wearing marine training berets (black with the red) and they are not wearing the corps cap bagde so they are defonatly not marines :/
ivladimirx 1 year ago
@ivladimirx From what I understand they are NOT supported by the MoD therefore wouldn't bear the usual isignia. At the end of the day they are a Youth organisation I thing we are all losing sight of what this is really about, it's not about the royal Marines, the MoD, The green beret or rifle drill it is about giving young poeple a place to go and goals to achieve to help keep them on the straight and narrow and too make something of themselves.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
were the hell did they get the neck to wear green lids, nothing about this is anything like the corps, at least the marine cadets adopt corps culture this lot just look like pongos. combat jackets with the draw cords not done up, stable belts, crap army drill everyone generaly just looking like a scran bag.
get a grip
sabbertinitani 1 year ago
@sabbertinitani Get a grip?! You come on here and slate a bunch of KIDS and then tell them to get a grip, I think it's you that needs to get a grip mate or at least get a life as I have already said they are a Youth organisation, we are all losing sight of what this is really about, it's not about the Royal Marines, The green beret or rifle drill it is about giving young poeple a place to go and goals to achieve to help keep them on the straight and narrow and too make something of themselves.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago 2
Marine cadets doing Army drill? Green lids..Gopping. Are the tests to get your cadet green lids endorsed by the corps in any which way ? The staff wearing green lids? Any of them ex royal? They make do with what they have, reasnobly well. But shouldnt wear the green lid or do pongo drill!
spursetch2 1 year ago
if they are marine cadets why are they doing army cadet drill?
iwannagoafghan 1 year ago
It's a shame their drill's somewhat poor... An interesting take on the Present arms. Also, No MOD support? I can see firing 5.56mm being a problem then. (And they're not GP rifles)
NJG53kommandant 1 year ago
@NJG53kommandant You don't have to be part of the MoD to live fire infact DTE (Defence Training Estates) are usually quite willing to allow civilian organisations acces to these things at a price ofcourse. and from what I can see these weapons are only immitations and not Live firing, probably only for drill purposes.
PhantomBadass 1 year ago
Why have they got bb guns and kids under 16 are not aloud to where kevlar helmets as there necks are not that strong.
ARMYDCOY12 1 year ago
these are not standed marine cadets as there wearing green lids and there not wearing the marine cap badge and i would look to know cadets would get susats
LC128 1 year ago
are they gp rifles
BenSmith1510 1 year ago
@BenSmith1510 yh
odst000a 1 year ago