Hey FOLKS WHERE'S MegaDunce? OH he's hiding out because he pwned himself on his own vid. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
If evolution were true there would be some animals with only one eye. Many animals would have four eyes. Two in the front and two in the rear. According to evolution the four eyed animals have a better chance for survival. We should all have 4 eyes.
"where's one single mistake at the wikipage about evolution theroy?" THEROY??? XD
That's one of the three things you say. The other two are: "explicado por que i evololololved from plants whoa whoa whoa" and "1+1 = 11"
After 10 years of monotony, wouldn't you agree that it's time for a change? I advise you to get out of the crib and venture into reality, and you'll be able to find new things to say.
MrMegaDouche said "ad hominem does not mean a fallacy, you said that.
I asked him to quote me on it and he did.
HERE IS THE QUOTE HE GIVES: "The ad hominem is usually described as a logical fallacy"
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MegaDouche how's it feel to PWN yourself on your own video. I also noted your three dummass buddies cheering you on. HAR HAR HAR They either didn't watch the vid or they are even stupider than everyone thinks. Either way
Two golfers were out on the links in Palm Beach and came across an alligator frantically wiping her mouth on the grass. One said:" I wonder what's up with that gator?" The gator replied:" I just ate a creationist and can't get the taste out of my mouth!"
@9pt9 You keep changing the goal posts. Proving that you do not have the maturity required for a rational debate. Effective? Again: how do explain variation of any structures observed without using evolution theory? You keep denying every single observation where chance is observed. That's why creationism fails: denial. Now: how do you explain plant speciation w/out using evo theory??? Look, i Always point to just one thing and Ur entire religion falls! Lolol
@Maximusretardus " Thus the fóssil record is a faithful of what evolutionary theory predicts" Gould, more on misquotes at Quote mine project, Talkorigins
transmoron and megamoron were in a parking lot trying to unlock the door of their Volkswagen convertible with a coat hanger. They tried and tried to get the door open, but they couldn't. megamoron had a coat hanger and stopped for a moment to catch his breath, and transmoron said, anxiously, "Hurry up! It's starting to rain and the top is down."
transmoron and megamoron were in a parking lot trying to unlock the door of their Volkswagen convertible with a coat hanger. They tried and tried to get the door open, but they couldn't. megamoron had a coat hanger and stopped for a moment to catch his breath, and transmoron said, anxiously, "Hurry up! It's starting to rain and the top is down."
@JackSShit If evolution were true all animals should be able to speak English, Spanish, or French. No reason that they couldn't. The conditions that gave us language also exist for animals. Many animals have the vocal mechanisms to speak, but they can't speak.
@foxlake02 I'm taking to YOU dimbulb. I see you're uable to answer my question below. What's the matter dummass? I thought evolution explains everything? Your ignoring my question is frank admission that evolution is bullshit. AND THAT is pathetic. Animals can't talk because God didn't dun it. HAR HAR HAR HAR
@MaxSShit Animals can't talk for the same reason we can't run like cheetahs or fly like eagles or swim like dolphins. What goes through your little brain when you think they should? What kind of warped caricature of the theory of evolution do you have that would even say something that stupid? Your strawman arguments only prove that you can't support your own assertions that magic explains how reality works.
You keep showing you have no clue about evolution.
All you are proving, by your own logic, is that God is so full of shit that he claims to have created humans by his own image...and yet we are not gods.
We are animals, you dumb shit.
"have the vocal mechanisms".... some humans can't speak, how do you explain that without using evolution theory?
Dear transdummass, you fucking idiot. You know nothing, but a least now you don't have to keep telling your friends that you don't know Jack Shit. HAR HAR HAR HAR
You think you're an animal? NO I saw your sissy arms. You're a vegetable. You're a big squash with a pussy. HAR HAR HAR
lovely we are related to mollusks* I studied the eye for a while (optician tech) you can say i know it inside out, these folks say the process took millions of years & relates to mollusks? yeah....no! the eye is perfect in design & can only have come from a perfect creator, GOD*
vision is a gift from GOD, not a gift from an evolution process*
@foxlake02 "How about goosbumps and your laryngeal nerve looping under the arch of the aorta . Are they gifts too?" How about your FAT ASS and LOUDMOUTH are they gifts too? ho ho ho ho
@MaxSShit “What should the fossil record include if most evolution occurs by speciation in peripheral isolates? Species should be static through their range because our fossils are the remains of large central populations. In any local area inhabited by ancestors, a descendant species should appear suddenly by migration from the peripheral region in which it evolved." Now here's why...
@MaxSShit "In the peripheral region itself, we might find direct evidence of speciation, but such good fortune would be rare indeed because the event occurs so rapidly in such a small population. Thus, the fossil record is a faithful rendering of what evolutionary theory predicts, not a pitiful vestige of a once bountiful tale.” Gould, The Panda's Thumb
@phirefish Wow... to be so educated about the human eye, and yet so blind as to how it was made. The eye is far from perfect- there are numerous ranges of colors and other influences we cannot see, if the eye forms erroneously during maturation in the womb they may work poorly or not at all, they are easily injured, the cones of some individuals' eyes don't process properly and are thus color blind...
If there was a god to bestow such gifts, I'd ask for the upgraded model.
@TheReliquarian "The eye is far from perfect" HAR HAR HAR thanks for telling us that the Evotard Fairy is all fucked up? And that she's a complete idiot. You're a dummass. You just confirmed DESIGN dumbo. As to how bad it is? Everyday scientists continue to find out why something is designed in a way they could never have imagined. That's why there are no such thing as vestigial structures now. Scientists have found that they have a purpose. Way to go DUMMASS.
SJ Gould from the iintroduction to Evolution as fact and theory; The basic attack of modern creationists falls apart on two general counts before we even reach the supposed factual details of their assault against evolution. First, they play upon a vernacular misunderstanding of the word "theory" to convey the false impression that we evolutionists are covering up the rotten core of our edifice. (cont)
(cont) Second, they misuse a popular philosophy of science to argue that they are behaving scientifically in attacking evolution. Yet the same philosophy demonstrates that their own belief is not science, and that "scientific creationism" is a meaningless and self-contradictory phrase, an example of what Orwell called "newspeak."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them" SJ Gould 1994
@parsivalshorse "It is also a fact" HAR HAR HAR He already proved that there is no evolution. And now all he's doing is attempting damage control since he fucked up and let the cat out of the bag with: “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
For him to then say "evolution is a fact" is beyond hilarious.
@parsivalshorse "the false impression that we evolutionists are covering up the rotten core of our edifice" WELLLL you are. There is NO "theory of evolution." You pretend there is and that it's on a "scientific" level. BALONEY! If it was you'd be able to tell me what it is. Not one of you "intellectual" assholes know what it is. Nor can you quote it. Everyone of you have a different idea of what you THINK it is. And not one of you understand it.
@JackSShit How many sock accounts are you going to come here as before you get over the pain and humiliation of being PWNED about your Gould quote mines max? Movie and dinner: $56. Watching max switch to his SupaFly and JackSShit sockpuppets: PRICELESS. (Did I guess both of them right max?)
@dimbulblake02 The hypocrisy of it all. YOU the sockpuppet and clone queen of all time, here bitching about sockpuppets you can't prove and claiming "I only have one account" while quickly switching from your odinata sock to your WideAssClaire1 sock and then your 1PFA sock and getting your ass owned with every one of them gives me fits of laughter. BUT keep the laughter coming dimbulb, keep the laugher coming.
@foxlake02 I see, you're back for more humiliation? You're just not very smart are you? When all a person can do is lose, it's a good idea to stay away from that game. But with the chronically stupid, nothing, not even experience ever teaches them anything. Are you sure you're not MegaDouche? You and he are both on the same IQ level. And you sound alike, very stupid.
Do you EVER think of anything new? You have been fucked up ever since Max pwned you on the peppered moth. It must have wound your springs too tight. HAHAHAHAHA
"Thus, the fossil record is a faithful rendering of what evolutionary theory predicts, not a pitiful vestige of a once bountiful tale.”
— "The Episodic Nature of Evolutionary Change," The Panda's Thumb: Reflections in Natural History, New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1980, pp. 182-184.
Gould...
yeah... you are so fucking smart! HA HA HA HA HA
The bible promotes slavery, self-mutilation and sheer ignorance...tsk tsk...
@transpedo Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
@transpedophile, Why would I accept atheistic evolution when you can't explain bacteria remaining bacteria (AB resistance) and plants remaning plants (plant speciation) without using creation theory?
@transtlantic How do you possibly explain the SO muscle fed thru the trochlea without using creation fact? Did it slowly feed it thru the pulley over millions of year somehow knowing it would be effective one day? LOL Get real! So many evoretardation examples so little time.
Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
"failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it" Let me interpret this.
1. We fail to see any evolution
2. Evolution theory predicts that we won't see any evidence of evolution
A. "The history of most fossil species includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. 2. Sudden appearance. In any local area, cont.
B. "…a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed."" (Gould, Stephen J., "Evolution's Erratic Pace," Natural History, Vol. 86, No. 5, May 1977, p.14).
Looks like Gould sold you out again. hahahahaaaa He's a closet creationist. HAR HAR HAR
STATEMENT OF FACT: "They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
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This little proof that there is no evolution just pisses you retards off doesn't it.
@9pt9 "Nice Gould pwnage quotes dude" What did you say? Did you say I PWNED the shit out of them? OH OK, that's what I thought you said. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
All they can do is whine and say I'm wrong. But Gould told the truth about the fossil record. Pisses them off.
"design"? that would imply there's a "design"...what's your evidence that the eyes are designed? especially considering that random mutations or random environmental pressures influence the phenotype of every single eye?
Your question is a very obvious assertion without proof... you are presenting a fallacy...
Now..How do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
there are variations to the trochlea, how do you explain those random variations? "how many mutations did it take to make it"? depends, name me one single trochlea that can define all others. Do consider there are variations.
considering that specific cartilage is observed in gradual change in species across the eras...I am astonished how you consider that an example against evolution...lol
How do you explain the diversity observed of the trochlea of the SO without using evo theory?
@cRetards if i am upset, what is max the tard????? Lololol btw i am still waiting for you to explain plant speciation without using evolution theory. Your denial of speciation Is fucking funny!!!! Lololol
@MaximusRetardus Fact: any candidate unable to explain plant speciation without using evolution theory is going to prove why creationists are uneducated fucks.
"They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
"failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it" Let me interpret this.
1. We fail to see any evolution
2. Evolution theory predicts that we won't see any evidence of evolution
3. We are not sure WHAT we understand.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
THANK YOU GOULD FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT hahahahahahahaa
"We are not sure WHAT we understand." HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
"I was taught and so were my contemporaries. And so were the younger scientists. Evolution was defined as 'changes in gene frequencies' in natural populations. The accumulation of genetic mutations were touted to be enough to change one species to another. . No. It wasn't dishonesty. I think it was wish-fulfillment and social momentum. Assumptions, made but not verified, were taught as fact." - Evolutionist/Biologist Lyn Marguilis
And, now for a spelling lesson: The last four letters in American; I can. The last four letters in Republican; I can. The last four letters in Democrats; rats. End of lesson. Test to follow in November 2012.
Remember, November 2012, is to be set aside as rodent extermination month.
"Have you wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left." By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV). Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen."
@transpedo, I see you're following me around stalking me. HAR HAR HAR I guess I have stung you badly haven't I. I have also exposed your bullshit and nonsense and lies. You're just like a woman, 1ProudFemaleAtheist aka WideAssClaire aka foxlake.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
YOU ARE PWNED FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
@MrMegaSYBIL "does one scientist make ALL of evolutionary thought" YES YES YES YOU DUMMASS. You apparently know jack shit about science. Science is ONE investigator proving the other 100% wrong. Gould did that.
YOU FAIL DUMMASS
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
A. "The history of most fossil species includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. 2. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors;
"Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record." to p183.
Gould
and how do you explain AB resistance without using evolution theory?
@transDUMMASS "Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change" NO SHIT he's a fucking genius and then he tells us that there isn't any evolution.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
YOU SELF-PWNED YOUR STUPID SELF. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
"Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record." to p183.
and yet...no creationism. thus I ask:
How do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
@transpedo "Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record."
HAR HAR HAR HE'S RATIONALIZING CREATION HAR HAR HAR
@MrMegaSYBIL BUT NOBODY is laughing WITH YOU. They are all laughing at you.
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@MaximusArurealius "then [Gould] tells us that there isn't any evolution"
"Evolution proceeds in two major modes. In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth. New species branch off from a persisting parental stock."
Wow, guess Gould DID tell us there was evolution after all! hehehehe
@dipshitlake02 Shortbuslake02, "In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth. New species branch off from a persisting parental stock." He's talking about theory. Neither of those two have ever happened. All conjecture.
@MaximuSShit Theory: a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena. i.e. Punctuated Equilibrium. What did you think theories were? Guesses? hehehehehe
@DINBATlake02 FACT: "They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
FACT: "the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change"
THEORY: "Evolution proceeds in two major modes. In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth."
@MaximusArurealius LOL Max gradualism has not been taught since the 19th century, you are as usual barking at the moon - I'd call you a braying jackass again, but apparently you are using that name as a sock account now.
@MaximusArurealius "Just what the fuck are transitional fossils all about if it's not gradualism?" - They are about evolution dumbass, evolution is not always consistently gradual - which is exaclty what your quotes from S J Gould keep telling you. Gould explains how evolution can happen in ways that are not gradual, that was his principle contribution to the theory. (punctuated equilibrium). EPIC MAX SELF PWN !!! LOL
@parsivalsASS "Gould explains how evolution can happen in ways that are not gradual" That's funny. HAR HAR HAR Thanks for proving that evotards can always bullshit their way through anything. hahahhaaa Self-pwn? hahahaha Hardly. You are confused dummass. You can't even prove what you're saying. Calling Creation PE is so brilliant! har har har
@parsivalsass, do you even realize that a theory that can be applied to ANYTHING is no theory at all. Your mind can't grasp that little concept can it? When your theory is such that contradictions work for it, it is nothing more than convoluted hogwash. It's hilarious that Gould can look at Creation and call it something else entirely the opposite and not feel embarrassed. AND neither do you dummass.
The evotards claim evolution is a scientific theory. We know it's not because the nutjob, wingnuts can't even tell us what it is. If it were a scientific theory they'd be able to tell us exactly what it is and prove it.They can't even agree on what it is. The evotards don't understand it anyway. Everyone of them thinks it's something different.
"it appears all at once and "fully formed." –Gould, Suddenly creation is evolution. har har har
@parsivalshorse Hey dummass, didn't you just get corrected by some other evotard? OH Yeah, you were spouting off about macroevolution and and he pointed out that you didn't know what you were talking about. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR You thought creationists invented the term. ROFL ROFL I am laughing so hard I can barely type. But as usual he was unable to get through that thick skull of yours. AND NOW you prove once again that you're an idiot. Listen: No gradualism, no evolution.
Your evo fairytale is whatever you want it to be but deep in your heart you know that evo just so stories that accomodate everything like a sponge do not make a serious scientific theory, that is why you said with your trans sock "Darwinism LOLOL lololol" because you rejected the evo nonsense that is preached by Dawkins and Coyne etc.
@WildCatsKitten1 he's the dummass who said, "Complexity argues against a designer mate, not for it." Did you see where an evotard pwned him for not knowing what macroevolution is? HAR HAR HAR
"accomodate"? not at all... We OBSERVE evolution. Atoms exist in many forms, and yet only one theory explains it all: Atomic theory.
We observe MANY possible mechanisms of Evolution as well.
Serious thing: after all this time you keep failing to explain Plant speciation or AB resistance w/out using evolution theory. Thus you provide no reason, none at all, to pay any sort of atention to the delusional religious nonsense that you call "creationism".
My challenge is still up, you still didn't name the alternative theory of evo you believe in to the one which you rejected when you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol"
You don't know which theory of evo you believe in, Obviously you have no alternative to the failed theory of evo you laughed at when you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol" otherwise you would be able to name it.
Why do you keep asking me to name the theory that I call the theory of evolution?
How is saying: "something" LOLOL a rejection? you are a fucking moron.
How do you explain plant speciation or AB resistance w/out using evolution theory?
You go round and round for years and FACT is: my challenge is still up. thus you provide no reason to believe in the already proven to be a failure religious delusion, at the Dover trial - Creationism.
Not only are you fucked up with a sissy name like Hugo but you are fucked up when you don't even know what theory of evo you believe in, You rejected the evo fairytale that Coyne preaches because you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol" but you name no alternative, We both laugh at the evo fairytale and the only difference is that when you laugh at it then you laugh like a girl because you are a sissy called hugo, go play with your barbie doll.
look at you getting all upset because i got you to laugh at the evolutionary fairytale that is preached by dawkins.
I WON the debate long ago when i got you to reject the evo fairytale and laugh at it when you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol what next netwonism? lolol"
it is funny to see that you not know the name of the theory of evo you are meant to believe in, we both laugh at the nonsense preached by dawkins except you laugh like a girl.
"His opponents interpreted this event as the moment of creation, for not a single trace of Precambrian life had been discovered when Darwin wrote the Origin of Species. (We now have an extensive record of monerans from these early rocks, see essay 21)"
“I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
1. Sudden appearance = Creation
2. No evolutionary change = Creation
3. Evolution predicts no evolution
4. "We don't understand evolution theory"
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you lose again assholes
I just love this. HAR HAR HAR HAR Let's look further
"failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it" Let me interpret this.
1. We fail to see any evolution
2. Evolution theory predicts that we won't see any evidence of evolution
Creationist critics often charge that evolution cannot be tested, and therefore cannot be viewed as a properly scientific subject at all. This claim is rhetorical nonsense.
Stephen Jay Gould
LOLOL Gould says the same that I do:
Creationism is rhetorical crap! LOLOL
you can't even explain plant speciation w/out using evolution theory!
"Our fossil record is almost exclusively the story of hard parts. But most animals have none, and those that do reveal very little about their anatomies in their outer coverings (what could you infer about a clam from its shell alone?). Hence, the rare soft-bodied faunas of the fossil record are precious windows into the true range and diversity of ancient life."
Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History, 1989, p. 23-24)
@transDUMMASS, THAT PROVES NOTHING YA MORON. THIS IS WHAT HE SAID
"They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
"We believe that Huxley was right in his warning. The modern theory of evolution does not require gradual change. In fact, the operation of Darwinian processes should yield exactly what we see in the fossil record. It is gradualism we should reject, not Darwinism."
@transdummass, "The modern theory of evolution does not require gradual change" HAR HAR HAR HAR YEAH DUMMASS and neither does CREATION. Keep talking though dummass. HAR HAR HAR
"Evolution proceeds in two major modes. In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. .... The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth. New species branch off from a persisting parental stock.
Gould
how is this Gould supporting creationism? I am astonished by max, the tard (retired knot teacher) dishonesty...but then again...all religious fundies act the same way...
Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
"I confess, I cringe, knowing full well what all the creationists who deluge me with letters must be thinking. "So Gould admits that we can trace no evolutionary ladder among early African hominids; species appear and later disappear, looking no different from their great-grandfathers. Sounds like special creation to me." ... I suggest that the fault is not with evolution itself, but with a false picture of its operation that most of us hold -- namely the ladder . . . (pp. 60-61)
@transmamalantic
Btw, there's an electric field called retarded field, so don't worry, you're not the only one XD
Instead of evolution, why don't you study about retarded fields? They are your own kind AHAHAHAHAHA
MeinKleinerTiger 2 hours ago
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Hey FOLKS WHERE'S MegaDunce? OH he's hiding out because he pwned himself on his own vid. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 15 hours ago
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If evolution were true there would be some animals with only one eye. Many animals would have four eyes. Two in the front and two in the rear. According to evolution the four eyed animals have a better chance for survival. We should all have 4 eyes.
MaximusArurealius 20 hours ago
@MaximusArurealius
Some animals with only one eye?
Animals would have four eyes?
But Maxipad, 95%-97% of ALL animal species are invertebrates.
And of this CLEAR MAJORITY of species, they often DO have ONE, TWO, FIVE or EIGHT eyes.
And yes, these increased number of eyes improve survivability.
Therefore, evolution theory, of RM&NS proven true in YOUR allegation of the number of eyes.
Right?
BTW, Your such a fuckwit Maxipad. Your as fucking dumb as a box of hammers.
PWNED! YAP YAP YAP!!
ChickenHawk110 12 hours ago
@MaximusArurealius
megadouche is hiding out in shame after you pwned him on his own vids.
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IcemanSupaFly 9 hours ago
@cRetard
where's one single mistake at the wikipage about evolution theroy?
transtlantic 8 hours ago
@transHugo
Steve Paikin- "What is the theory that gets us evolving from very simple forms of life to the comlpex creatures we are today."
Jerry Coyne- "I think basically you’re asking what the theory is and it’s called Darwinism."
transhugo said " I reject Darwinism Like I reject Newtonism" and said " Darwinism LOLOL lolol what next newtonism?"
You laugh and reject the evo fairytale he believes in and fail to name the evo theory you believe in.
You Lose.
hahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 4 hours ago
@cRetard
"I think basically..."
LOLOL jerry coyne knows that when talking to lay ignorant human primates, one must use BASIC language. LOLOL
I reject darwinism as much as i reject newtonism! LOLOL darwinism LOLOLOL
THUS I ASK: How does one explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
there's only ONE theory of evolution, as any highschool kid knows...
oh right... you were homeschooled...
You Lose, you Loser.
transtlantic 56 minutes ago
@transtlantic
"where's one single mistake at the wikipage about evolution theroy?" THEROY??? XD
That's one of the three things you say. The other two are: "explicado por que i evololololved from plants whoa whoa whoa" and "1+1 = 11"
After 10 years of monotony, wouldn't you agree that it's time for a change? I advise you to get out of the crib and venture into reality, and you'll be able to find new things to say.
MeinKleinerTiger 2 hours ago
@TheRetardedTiger
I thought you said you would never talk to me again...
10 years of "Monotony"?
Is that english? maybe you should try 10 years of basic education and then come back and apologize for how fucking dumb you sound.
THUS I ASK: How do you explain Plant speciation or AB resistance without using evolution theory?
If you can't find one single mistake at the wikipage about evolution theory or even an answer to my challenge...how can you expect credibility?
You are an Imbecile.
transtlantic 54 minutes ago
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What's the matter Megadouche? Spamming my comments? HAR HAR HAR I hit a nerve. Right?
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MaximusArurealius 20 hours ago
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ATTENTION FOLKS PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT
MrMegaDouche said "ad hominem does not mean a fallacy, you said that.
I asked him to quote me on it and he did.
HERE IS THE QUOTE HE GIVES: "The ad hominem is usually described as a logical fallacy"
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MegaDouche how's it feel to PWN yourself on your own video. I also noted your three dummass buddies cheering you on. HAR HAR HAR They either didn't watch the vid or they are even stupider than everyone thinks. Either way
TOTAL PWN
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@Maxipad
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ChickenHawk110 1 day ago
Two golfers were out on the links in Palm Beach and came across an alligator frantically wiping her mouth on the grass. One said:" I wonder what's up with that gator?" The gator replied:" I just ate a creationist and can't get the taste out of my mouth!"
DClayTorosco 1 day ago
@9pt9 You keep changing the goal posts. Proving that you do not have the maturity required for a rational debate. Effective? Again: how do explain variation of any structures observed without using evolution theory? You keep denying every single observation where chance is observed. That's why creationism fails: denial. Now: how do you explain plant speciation w/out using evo theory??? Look, i Always point to just one thing and Ur entire religion falls! Lolol
transtlantic 1 day ago
@Maximusretardus " Thus the fóssil record is a faithful of what evolutionary theory predicts" Gould, more on misquotes at Quote mine project, Talkorigins
transtlantic 1 day ago
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transmoron and megamoron were in a parking lot trying to unlock the door of their Volkswagen convertible with a coat hanger. They tried and tried to get the door open, but they couldn't. megamoron had a coat hanger and stopped for a moment to catch his breath, and transmoron said, anxiously, "Hurry up! It's starting to rain and the top is down."
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way to go dummass.
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@MaximusArurealius
transmoron and megamoron were in a parking lot trying to unlock the door of their Volkswagen convertible with a coat hanger. They tried and tried to get the door open, but they couldn't. megamoron had a coat hanger and stopped for a moment to catch his breath, and transmoron said, anxiously, "Hurry up! It's starting to rain and the top is down."
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IcemanSupaFly 1 day ago
@IcemanSupaFly
hi max
why do you have so many accounts?
MrMegatruth 1 day ago
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@MrMegaDouche, give up you dummass. Iceman ain't me.
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@MrMegaLiar, where are you, you little pervert? Are you making another vid to pwn yourself? HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
JackSShit 20 hours ago
@JackSShit If evolution were true all animals should be able to speak English, Spanish, or French. No reason that they couldn't. The conditions that gave us language also exist for animals. Many animals have the vocal mechanisms to speak, but they can't speak.
JackSShit 19 hours ago
@JackSShit I see you are talking to yourself again. The pathetic thing is when you start answering yourself max.
foxlake02 19 hours ago 2
@foxlake02 I'm taking to YOU dimbulb. I see you're uable to answer my question below. What's the matter dummass? I thought evolution explains everything? Your ignoring my question is frank admission that evolution is bullshit. AND THAT is pathetic. Animals can't talk because God didn't dun it. HAR HAR HAR HAR
JackSShit 15 hours ago
@MaxSShit Animals can't talk for the same reason we can't run like cheetahs or fly like eagles or swim like dolphins. What goes through your little brain when you think they should? What kind of warped caricature of the theory of evolution do you have that would even say something that stupid? Your strawman arguments only prove that you can't support your own assertions that magic explains how reality works.
foxlake02 11 hours ago 4
@KackaASS
You keep showing you have no clue about evolution.
All you are proving, by your own logic, is that God is so full of shit that he claims to have created humans by his own image...and yet we are not gods.
We are animals, you dumb shit.
"have the vocal mechanisms".... some humans can't speak, how do you explain that without using evolution theory?
transtlantic 19 hours ago
Dear transdummass, you fucking idiot. You know nothing, but a least now you don't have to keep telling your friends that you don't know Jack Shit. HAR HAR HAR HAR
You think you're an animal? NO I saw your sissy arms. You're a vegetable. You're a big squash with a pussy. HAR HAR HAR
JackSShit 15 hours ago
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WildCatsKitten1 8 hours ago
@transhugo
You keep failing to name the name of the theory of evolution you believe in.
it's obvious that you are retarded.
Now...It's obvious you know the evo fairytale that dawkins preaches has failed, Just look at your own words "Darwinism LOLOL lolol"
Thus I got you to reject the evo fairytale when you said "I reject Darwinism like I reject newtonism"
I got you to reject the evo fairytale.
YOU LOSE!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 8 hours ago
@IcemanSupaFly
talking to yourself again, huh max?
MrMegatruth 1 day ago
@MrMegaBOOB
Make another self pwnage video.
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IcemanSupaFly 1 day ago
@IcemanSupaFly
poor max, you have been busted for talking to yourself
why so many accounts?
MrMegatruth 1 day ago
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IcemanSupaFly 1 day ago
@MrMegatruth
Why so many self pwnage videos?
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IcemanSupaFly 1 day ago
@IcemanSupaFly
Why no evidence for your religious opinions?
odinata 1 day ago
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OH GUESS WHAT FOLKS??? MEGASYBIL IS PWNED ON HIS BIRTHER VID!!!
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR GO CHECK IT OUT.
watch?v=LA0RQiGmFX0
MaximusArurealius 14 hours ago
lovely we are related to mollusks* I studied the eye for a while (optician tech) you can say i know it inside out, these folks say the process took millions of years & relates to mollusks? yeah....no! the eye is perfect in design & can only have come from a perfect creator, GOD*
vision is a gift from GOD, not a gift from an evolution process*
phirefish 2 days ago
@phirefish How about goosbumps and your laryngeal nerve looping under the arch of the aorta . Are they gifts too?
foxlake02 2 days ago
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@foxlake02 "How about goosbumps and your laryngeal nerve looping under the arch of the aorta . Are they gifts too?" How about your FAT ASS and LOUDMOUTH are they gifts too? ho ho ho ho
JackSShit 1 day ago
@MaxSShit “What should the fossil record include if most evolution occurs by speciation in peripheral isolates? Species should be static through their range because our fossils are the remains of large central populations. In any local area inhabited by ancestors, a descendant species should appear suddenly by migration from the peripheral region in which it evolved." Now here's why...
foxlake02 1 day ago
@MaxSShit "In the peripheral region itself, we might find direct evidence of speciation, but such good fortune would be rare indeed because the event occurs so rapidly in such a small population. Thus, the fossil record is a faithful rendering of what evolutionary theory predicts, not a pitiful vestige of a once bountiful tale.” Gould, The Panda's Thumb
foxlake02 1 day ago
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@dummasslake02 "…it appears all at once and "fully formed." –Gould
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MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@phirefish
considering that there are thousands of different eye structures... your claim that you "studied the eye", is astonishing...
"perfect in design"? How do you explain congenital blindness?
Where's your proof of God?
How do you explain Eye diversity without using evolution theory?
transtlantic 1 day ago
@phirefish Wow... to be so educated about the human eye, and yet so blind as to how it was made. The eye is far from perfect- there are numerous ranges of colors and other influences we cannot see, if the eye forms erroneously during maturation in the womb they may work poorly or not at all, they are easily injured, the cones of some individuals' eyes don't process properly and are thus color blind...
If there was a god to bestow such gifts, I'd ask for the upgraded model.
TheReliquarian 1 day ago
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@TheReliquarian "The eye is far from perfect" HAR HAR HAR thanks for telling us that the Evotard Fairy is all fucked up? And that she's a complete idiot. You're a dummass. You just confirmed DESIGN dumbo. As to how bad it is? Everyday scientists continue to find out why something is designed in a way they could never have imagined. That's why there are no such thing as vestigial structures now. Scientists have found that they have a purpose. Way to go DUMMASS.
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
SJ Gould from the iintroduction to Evolution as fact and theory; The basic attack of modern creationists falls apart on two general counts before we even reach the supposed factual details of their assault against evolution. First, they play upon a vernacular misunderstanding of the word "theory" to convey the false impression that we evolutionists are covering up the rotten core of our edifice. (cont)
parsivalshorse 2 days ago 2
(cont) Second, they misuse a popular philosophy of science to argue that they are behaving scientifically in attacking evolution. Yet the same philosophy demonstrates that their own belief is not science, and that "scientific creationism" is a meaningless and self-contradictory phrase, an example of what Orwell called "newspeak."
parsivalshorse 2 days ago
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them" SJ Gould 1994
parsivalshorse 2 days ago
@parsivalshorse "It is also a fact" HAR HAR HAR He already proved that there is no evolution. And now all he's doing is attempting damage control since he fucked up and let the cat out of the bag with: “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
For him to then say "evolution is a fact" is beyond hilarious.
JackSShit 1 day ago
@JackSShit No Jackass - the only thing that is hilarious is your catastrophic failure to grasp simple concepts.
parsivalshorse 1 day ago
@JackSShit FYI - In the quote mine you just posted from Gould, note that it says 'IS the proper prediction' - not 'IS NOT".
parsivalshorse 1 day ago
@parsivalshorse "the false impression that we evolutionists are covering up the rotten core of our edifice" WELLLL you are. There is NO "theory of evolution." You pretend there is and that it's on a "scientific" level. BALONEY! If it was you'd be able to tell me what it is. Not one of you "intellectual" assholes know what it is. Nor can you quote it. Everyone of you have a different idea of what you THINK it is. And not one of you understand it.
BIG ASS FAIL FOR YOU
JackSShit 1 day ago
@JackSShit How many sock accounts are you going to come here as before you get over the pain and humiliation of being PWNED about your Gould quote mines max? Movie and dinner: $56. Watching max switch to his SupaFly and JackSShit sockpuppets: PRICELESS. (Did I guess both of them right max?)
foxlake02 1 day ago
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@dummasslake02 both bad guesses ya dumb bitch.
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
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@MaximusArurealius "both bad guesses" Then why did you reply? I was talking to JackSShit. Keep the self PWNAGE coming doofus. It's hilarious!
foxlake02 1 day ago 2
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@dimbulblake02 The hypocrisy of it all. YOU the sockpuppet and clone queen of all time, here bitching about sockpuppets you can't prove and claiming "I only have one account" while quickly switching from your odinata sock to your WideAssClaire1 sock and then your 1PFA sock and getting your ass owned with every one of them gives me fits of laughter. BUT keep the laughter coming dimbulb, keep the laugher coming.
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MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
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@dumbbitchlake02 Here's PRICELESS "snakes are fish" HAR HAR HAR
GOULD == SELF-PWNED
I WIN YOU LOSE hahahahahahahahahahah
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@foxlake02 I see, you're back for more humiliation? You're just not very smart are you? When all a person can do is lose, it's a good idea to stay away from that game. But with the chronically stupid, nothing, not even experience ever teaches them anything. Are you sure you're not MegaDouche? You and he are both on the same IQ level. And you sound alike, very stupid.
JackSShit 1 day ago
@JackSShit It is not possible to be as dumb as megadouche.
Did you see he is exposed as a liar?
IcemanSupaFly 1 day ago
@MaximusRetardus
one sockpuppet, two sockpuppet, three sockpuppet
and yet another year and more students learn:
Evolution = fact
Creationism= religious nonsense.
transtlantic 1 day ago
@IbeenpwnedbyJack
Do you EVER think of anything new? You have been fucked up ever since Max pwned you on the peppered moth. It must have wound your springs too tight. HAHAHAHAHA
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JackSShit 1 day ago
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@JackSShit "You have been fucked up ever since Max pwned you on the peppered moth" He's a PEPPERED MOTH HOAX DENIER
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MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@IcemanSupaFly
hi max
MrMegatruth 1 day ago
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@MrMegaSYBIL, You're paranoid. You think everyone is me. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@JackASS
Why are you here? Have you forgotten the Dover trial?
Evolution = fact
Creationism = religious delusion
transtlantic 1 day ago 2
@IbeenpwnedbyJack.
New name for you dumbo. Did you find your brain? Where was it? Did you dump it out with the bedpans?
Evolution = atheist bullshit creation myth
Creationism = proven by Gould
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JackSShit 1 day ago
@KackaSS
Hey, you dumb shit
Gould said: Evolution = fact
You are obviously confused.
Now...How do you explain eye diversity without using evo theory?
i see no reason to believe in your religious creationism when you provide no answers to observed phenomena.
transtlantic 1 day ago
@IbeenpwnedbyJack aka transtlantic "Gould said: Evolution = fact" Yes, but he was covering up the FACT that the fossil record proves CREATION.
YOU LOSE ASSHOLE HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAAR
JackSShit 1 day ago
@KackaSS
"Thus, the fossil record is a faithful rendering of what evolutionary theory predicts, not a pitiful vestige of a once bountiful tale.”
— "The Episodic Nature of Evolutionary Change," The Panda's Thumb: Reflections in Natural History, New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1980, pp. 182-184.
Gould...
yeah... you are so fucking smart! HA HA HA HA HA
The bible promotes slavery, self-mutilation and sheer ignorance...tsk tsk...
yeah... you are very "special":.. HA HA HA HA
transtlantic 1 day ago
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@transpedo Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
1. Sudden appearance = Creation
2. No evolutionary change = Creation
3. Evolution predicts no evolution
4. "We don't understand evolution theory"
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
YOU LOSE ASSHOLE
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
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@transpedophile, Why would I accept atheistic evolution when you can't explain bacteria remaining bacteria (AB resistance) and plants remaning plants (plant speciation) without using creation theory?
MaximusArurealius 1 day ago
@transtlantic How do you possibly explain the SO muscle fed thru the trochlea without using creation fact? Did it slowly feed it thru the pulley over millions of year somehow knowing it would be effective one day? LOL Get real! So many evoretardation examples so little time.
evoLOLOLOLution!
9pt9 1 day ago
@JackSShit
hi max
MrMegatruth 1 day ago
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THE BIG QUESTION FOLKS
WHY DID GOULD PWN EVOLUTION, BUT NOT ADMIT IT?
a. All evolutionists are liars
b. His religion won't allow him to admit Creation
c. He was afraid of losing his job
d. His friends and colleagues would suddenly not know him
e. All of the above
JackSShit 3 days ago
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@JackSShit HAR HAR HAR HAR foxlake, megadunce and transidiot all said e.
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MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
@JackSShit f. He only 'pwned' evolution in your imagination, in reality he published a book called Evolution as Fact and Theory (SJ Gould 1994)
parsivalshorse 2 days ago
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ATTENTION FOLKS PUBLIC NOTICE
Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
1. Sudden appearance = Creation
2. No evolutionary change = Creation
3. Evolution predicts no evolution
4. "We don't understand evolution theory"
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
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AND FURTHER NOTICE:
"failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it" Let me interpret this.
1. We fail to see any evolution
2. Evolution theory predicts that we won't see any evidence of evolution
3. We are not sure WHAT we understand.
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MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
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A. "The history of most fossil species includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. 2. Sudden appearance. In any local area, cont.
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
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B. "…a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed."" (Gould, Stephen J., "Evolution's Erratic Pace," Natural History, Vol. 86, No. 5, May 1977, p.14).
Looks like Gould sold you out again. hahahahaaaa He's a closet creationist. HAR HAR HAR
GOULD PWNS EVOLUTION and PROVES CREATION
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
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STATEMENT OF FACT: "They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
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This little proof that there is no evolution just pisses you retards off doesn't it.
PWNED
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
@MaximusArurealius Nice Gould pwnage quotes dude.
9pt9 2 days ago
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@9pt9 "Nice Gould pwnage quotes dude" What did you say? Did you say I PWNED the shit out of them? OH OK, that's what I thought you said. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
All they can do is whine and say I'm wrong. But Gould told the truth about the fossil record. Pisses them off.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 2 days ago
@9pt9
How do you explain the diversity observed in the eye without using evolution theory?
are you saying that congenital blindness is caused by a fairy named God?
transtlantic 2 days ago
@transtlantic How do you explain the design and diversity observed in the eye without using creation/design theory?
evoLOLution!
9pt9 2 days ago
@9pt9
"design"? that would imply there's a "design"...what's your evidence that the eyes are designed? especially considering that random mutations or random environmental pressures influence the phenotype of every single eye?
Your question is a very obvious assertion without proof... you are presenting a fallacy...
Now..How do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
transtlantic 1 day ago
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@transtlantic "design"? that would imply there's a "design"...what's your evidence that the eyes are designed?"
The trochlea for the SO muscle. How many mutations did it take make it? Did the muscle form first or the trochlea?
Mutations did it? evoLOLution.
9pt9 1 day ago
@9pt9
there are variations to the trochlea, how do you explain those random variations? "how many mutations did it take to make it"? depends, name me one single trochlea that can define all others. Do consider there are variations.
considering that specific cartilage is observed in gradual change in species across the eras...I am astonished how you consider that an example against evolution...lol
How do you explain the diversity observed of the trochlea of the SO without using evo theory?
transtlantic 1 day ago
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In the coming New Year, 2012, both Groundhog Day and the State of the Union address will occur on the same day.
This is an ironic juxtaposition of events.
One involves a meaningless ritual in which we look to an insignificant creature of little intelligence for prognostication.
The other involves a groundhog...
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MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
@cRetards if i am upset, what is max the tard????? Lololol btw i am still waiting for you to explain plant speciation without using evolution theory. Your denial of speciation Is fucking funny!!!! Lololol
transtlantic 4 days ago 2
@MaximusRetardus Fact: any candidate unable to explain plant speciation without using evolution theory is going to prove why creationists are uneducated fucks.
transtlantic 4 days ago 2
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GOULD PWNS EVOLUTION
"They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
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MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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ATTENTION FOLKS PUBLIC NOTICE
Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
1. Sudden appearance = Creation
2. No evolutionary change = Creation
3. Evolution predicts no evolution
4. "We don't understand evolution theory"
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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AND FURTHER NOTICE:
"failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it" Let me interpret this.
1. We fail to see any evolution
2. Evolution theory predicts that we won't see any evidence of evolution
3. We are not sure WHAT we understand.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
THANK YOU GOULD FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT hahahahahahahaa
"We are not sure WHAT we understand." HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
GOULD IS A CLOSET CREATIONIST
MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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MrMegaDunce: "You mean I'm an idiot? Is that what you think of me?"
Curly Joe: "Yep, everbody thinks that"
MrMegaDunce: "You mean everybody?"
Curly Joe: "Yes, everybody 'cept me?"
MrMegaDunce: "You mean you don't think I am an idiot?"
Curly Joe: "Nah, I only think you're a ef'ing moron."
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MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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ATTENTION FOLKS PUBLIC NOTICE
I just love this one.
"I was taught and so were my contemporaries. And so were the younger scientists. Evolution was defined as 'changes in gene frequencies' in natural populations. The accumulation of genetic mutations were touted to be enough to change one species to another. . No. It wasn't dishonesty. I think it was wish-fulfillment and social momentum. Assumptions, made but not verified, were taught as fact." - Evolutionist/Biologist Lyn Marguilis
MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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And, now for a spelling lesson: The last four letters in American; I can. The last four letters in Republican; I can. The last four letters in Democrats; rats. End of lesson. Test to follow in November 2012.
Remember, November 2012, is to be set aside as rodent extermination month.
MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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Origin of Left and Right
"Have you wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left." By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV). Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen."
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MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
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@transpedo, I see you're following me around stalking me. HAR HAR HAR I guess I have stung you badly haven't I. I have also exposed your bullshit and nonsense and lies. You're just like a woman, 1ProudFemaleAtheist aka WideAssClaire aka foxlake.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
YOU ARE PWNED FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
FAIL
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
OK EVERYBODY LISTEN MrMegaSYBIL is trying to think of something witty to say. HAR HAR HAR he'll just pwn himself again. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius
you are trying hard
MrMegatruth 5 days ago
@MrMegaSYBIL, OH you went and got your cheerleader to bolster you while you get your ass kicked some more ya little liar.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
PWNED
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
Science is one single person with an education proving that a fairy named God is a physical impossibility, non existent.
LOLOL
you keep failing to explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory
transtlantic 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius
ROFLMAO@U
MrMegatruth 5 days ago
@MrMegaSYBIL what the fuck are you laughing about asshole? Did you see the humor in how you pwned yourself on your own videos? HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
why do you promote slavery and prostitution?
Now...why can't you explain AB resistance or the diversity observed of the eye without using evolution theory?
are you mentally challenged?
transtlantic 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius
i am laughing at your stupidity
ROFLMAO@U
MrMegatruth 5 days ago
What's so funny about Gould is he describes CREATION and then tries to call it evolution. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
ALL EVOTARDS ARE SUCH FUCKING DUNCES har har har har
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius
let me ask you this max, does one scientist make ALL of evolutionary thought?
if not, then your little quote mine does not matter at all
MrMegatruth 5 days ago
@MrMegaSYBIL "does one scientist make ALL of evolutionary thought" YES YES YES YOU DUMMASS. You apparently know jack shit about science. Science is ONE investigator proving the other 100% wrong. Gould did that.
YOU FAIL DUMMASS
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
A. "The history of most fossil species includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. 2. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors;
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
B. "…it appears all at once and "fully formed."" (Gould, Stephen J., "Evolution's Erratic Pace," Natural History, Vol. 86, No. 5, May 1977, p.14).
Looks like Gould sold you out again. hahahahaaaa He's a closet creationist. HAR HAR HAR
GOULD PWNS EVOLUTION
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
"Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record." to p183.
Gould
and how do you explain AB resistance without using evolution theory?
transtlantic 5 days ago 2
@transDUMMASS "Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change" NO SHIT he's a fucking genius and then he tells us that there isn't any evolution.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
YOU SELF-PWNED YOUR STUPID SELF. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@Maximusetardus
"Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record." to p183.
and yet...no creationism. thus I ask:
How do you explain Plant speciation w/out using evolution theory?
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transpedo "Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record."
HAR HAR HAR HE'S RATIONALIZING CREATION HAR HAR HAR
He' doesn't know what else to fucking say.
SELF-PWNED AGAIN HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius
EVOLUTION AS FACT AND THEORY
by stephen gould
MrMegatruth 5 days ago
@MrMegaSYBIL oh MrSYBIL is back so we can laugh about how he pwned himself on his on videos and lied in public. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius
this is where is like to laugh at you
ROFLMAO@U
MrMegatruth 5 days ago
@MrMegaSYBIL BUT NOBODY is laughing WITH YOU. They are all laughing at you.
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MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
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@MrMegatruth "MaximusArurealius 3. you are jacksshit, you have admitted it -- MrMegatruth
YOU ARE A LIAR PWNED caught with your hand in the cookie jar.
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
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@transpedo, "Eldredge and I believe that speciation is responsible for almost all evolutionary change. " to p183.
THANKS I WILL SAVE THAT! HAR HAR HAR HAR
"Moreover, the way in which it occurs virtually guarantees that sudden appearance and stasis shall dominate the fossil record." == CREATION
HAR HAR HAR keep talking asshole
YOU LOSE
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
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@MaximusArurealius "then [Gould] tells us that there isn't any evolution"
"Evolution proceeds in two major modes. In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth. New species branch off from a persisting parental stock."
Wow, guess Gould DID tell us there was evolution after all! hehehehe
foxlake02 3 days ago 2
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@dipshitlake02 Shortbuslake02, "In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth. New species branch off from a persisting parental stock." He's talking about theory. Neither of those two have ever happened. All conjecture.
EPIC FAIL ASSHOLE
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
@MaximusGump "[Gould is] talking about theory" EXACTLY!
You are hereby PWNED, OWNED AND BONED.
Thanks for playing.
foxlake02 3 days ago 4
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@dimbullake02 You moron, do you even know the difference between theory and fact? ANY IDEA DUMMASS?
PWNED
MaximusArurealius 2 days ago
@MaximuSShit Theory: a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena. i.e. Punctuated Equilibrium. What did you think theories were? Guesses? hehehehehe
foxlake02 2 days ago 2
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@DINBATlake02 FACT: "They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
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@dummasslake02 "Wow, guess Gould DID tell us there was evolution after all!" You quote mined that.
FAIL
MaximusArurealius 3 days ago
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@WideAssClaireLake02
FACT: "the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change"
THEORY: "Evolution proceeds in two major modes. In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth."
FACTS DISPROVE THEORY
POWNED PWNED AND BONED HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
OWNED AGAIN BY MAX
MaximusArurealius 2 days ago
@MaximusArurealius LOL Max gradualism has not been taught since the 19th century, you are as usual barking at the moon - I'd call you a braying jackass again, but apparently you are using that name as a sock account now.
parsivalshorse 5 days ago
@parsivalsmoronicgoat, "gradualism has not been taught since the 19th century"
Just what the fuck are transitional fossils all about if it's not gradualism?
PWNED for not understanding evolution, but what's new.
OWNED BY MAX again
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusArurealius "Just what the fuck are transitional fossils all about if it's not gradualism?" - They are about evolution dumbass, evolution is not always consistently gradual - which is exaclty what your quotes from S J Gould keep telling you. Gould explains how evolution can happen in ways that are not gradual, that was his principle contribution to the theory. (punctuated equilibrium). EPIC MAX SELF PWN !!! LOL
parsivalshorse 5 days ago 2
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@parsivalsASS "Gould explains how evolution can happen in ways that are not gradual" That's funny. HAR HAR HAR Thanks for proving that evotards can always bullshit their way through anything. hahahhaaa Self-pwn? hahahaha Hardly. You are confused dummass. You can't even prove what you're saying. Calling Creation PE is so brilliant! har har har
AS they say, evolution never has a bad day.
PWNED for being unbelievably stupid.
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
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@parsivalsass, do you even realize that a theory that can be applied to ANYTHING is no theory at all. Your mind can't grasp that little concept can it? When your theory is such that contradictions work for it, it is nothing more than convoluted hogwash. It's hilarious that Gould can look at Creation and call it something else entirely the opposite and not feel embarrassed. AND neither do you dummass.
PWNED
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
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ATTENTION FOLKS PUBLIC NOTICE
The evotards claim evolution is a scientific theory. We know it's not because the nutjob, wingnuts can't even tell us what it is. If it were a scientific theory they'd be able to tell us exactly what it is and prove it.They can't even agree on what it is. The evotards don't understand it anyway. Everyone of them thinks it's something different.
"it appears all at once and "fully formed." –Gould, Suddenly creation is evolution. har har har
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
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@parsivalshorse Hey dummass, didn't you just get corrected by some other evotard? OH Yeah, you were spouting off about macroevolution and and he pointed out that you didn't know what you were talking about. HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR You thought creationists invented the term. ROFL ROFL I am laughing so hard I can barely type. But as usual he was unable to get through that thick skull of yours. AND NOW you prove once again that you're an idiot. Listen: No gradualism, no evolution.
SCHOOLED
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@parsivalshorse
"evolution is not always consistently gradual"
Your evo fairytale is whatever you want it to be but deep in your heart you know that evo just so stories that accomodate everything like a sponge do not make a serious scientific theory, that is why you said with your trans sock "Darwinism LOLOL lololol" because you rejected the evo nonsense that is preached by Dawkins and Coyne etc.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 5 days ago
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@WildCatsKitten1 he's the dummass who said, "Complexity argues against a designer mate, not for it." Did you see where an evotard pwned him for not knowing what macroevolution is? HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@cRetard
"accomodate"? not at all... We OBSERVE evolution. Atoms exist in many forms, and yet only one theory explains it all: Atomic theory.
We observe MANY possible mechanisms of Evolution as well.
Serious thing: after all this time you keep failing to explain Plant speciation or AB resistance w/out using evolution theory. Thus you provide no reason, none at all, to pay any sort of atention to the delusional religious nonsense that you call "creationism".
Remember: Dover trial.
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transtlantic
Remember your own words, you rejected the evo fairytale and said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol""
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 5 days ago
@cRetards
your delusion is astonishing...
How is that rejecting something? LOLOL
you are fucking retarded and my challenge is still up! LOLOLOL
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transHUGO
My challenge is still up, you still didn't name the alternative theory of evo you believe in to the one which you rejected when you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol"
You don't know which theory of evo you believe in, Obviously you have no alternative to the failed theory of evo you laughed at when you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol" otherwise you would be able to name it.
You keep failing.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 5 days ago
@cRetard
Why do you keep asking me to name the theory that I call the theory of evolution?
How is saying: "something" LOLOL a rejection? you are a fucking moron.
How do you explain plant speciation or AB resistance w/out using evolution theory?
You go round and round for years and FACT is: my challenge is still up. thus you provide no reason to believe in the already proven to be a failure religious delusion, at the Dover trial - Creationism.
now fuck off you imbecile.
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transHUGO
Not only are you fucked up with a sissy name like Hugo but you are fucked up when you don't even know what theory of evo you believe in, You rejected the evo fairytale that Coyne preaches because you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol" but you name no alternative, We both laugh at the evo fairytale and the only difference is that when you laugh at it then you laugh like a girl because you are a sissy called hugo, go play with your barbie doll.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 5 days ago
@cRetard
Why do you like to use the name "kitten"? are you a pussy?
How am i rejecting anything?
are you mentally challenged? (rhetorical)
Now...How do you explain Plant speciation or AB resistance w/out using evolution theory?
You can act like the kid as many times as you want. FACT IS: as long as my challenge remains unanswered, I will win over and over.
I find it funny that you deny random mutations. LOLOL that's the most funny part of it all. You suffer from a mental pathology.
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transhugo
hi hugo
look at you getting all upset because i got you to laugh at the evolutionary fairytale that is preached by dawkins.
I WON the debate long ago when i got you to reject the evo fairytale and laugh at it when you said "Darwinism LOLOL lolol what next netwonism? lolol"
it is funny to see that you not know the name of the theory of evo you are meant to believe in, we both laugh at the nonsense preached by dawkins except you laugh like a girl.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
WildCatsKitten1 5 days ago
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@transHUGO Remember this "Fact does not mean 100% certainty" HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 4 days ago
@parsivalsdummass, btw CONGRATULATIONS ASSHOLE.
You just made my forum's STUPID QUOTES BY EVOLUTIONISTS.
OWNED AGAIN ASSHOLE
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
STUPID QUOTES BY HUMAN BEINGS:
"God did it"
that's the most fucking stupid thing a grwn up human being can say...
it's like a child saying that "Santa puts presents under the tree"...
transtlantic 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
"His opponents interpreted this event as the moment of creation, for not a single trace of Precambrian life had been discovered when Darwin wrote the Origin of Species. (We now have an extensive record of monerans from these early rocks, see essay 21)"
Gould
More at Quote MINE project, Talkorigins.
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transpedo, TALK ORIGINS? HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR Is that where you get all your science?
HAR HAR HAR no wonder you don't know a fucking thing.
YOU LOSE AGAIN ASSHOLE
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
Let's look at Gould's statement again.
“I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
1. Sudden appearance = Creation
2. No evolutionary change = Creation
3. Evolution predicts no evolution
4. "We don't understand evolution theory"
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you lose again assholes
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
I just love this. HAR HAR HAR HAR Let's look further
"failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it" Let me interpret this.
1. We fail to see any evolution
2. Evolution theory predicts that we won't see any evidence of evolution
3. We are not sure WHAT we understand.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
Creationist critics often charge that evolution cannot be tested, and therefore cannot be viewed as a properly scientific subject at all. This claim is rhetorical nonsense.
Stephen Jay Gould
LOLOL Gould says the same that I do:
Creationism is rhetorical crap! LOLOL
you can't even explain plant speciation w/out using evolution theory!
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transDUMMASS HAR HAR HAR HAR YEAH AND THEN HE PWNED EVOLUTION.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
YOU LOSE ASSHOLE NOW GO BACK TO DUMPING THOSE BEDPANS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAaaaa!
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
"Our fossil record is almost exclusively the story of hard parts. But most animals have none, and those that do reveal very little about their anatomies in their outer coverings (what could you infer about a clam from its shell alone?). Hence, the rare soft-bodied faunas of the fossil record are precious windows into the true range and diversity of ancient life."
Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History, 1989, p. 23-24)
more at Quote mine project
transtlantic 5 days ago
@transDUMMASS, THAT PROVES NOTHING YA MORON. THIS IS WHAT HE SAID
"They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and "fully formed." - Gould
POWNED AND OWNED
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
Snipped in the ellipsis is:
"We believe that Huxley was right in his warning. The modern theory of evolution does not require gradual change. In fact, the operation of Darwinian processes should yield exactly what we see in the fossil record. It is gradualism we should reject, not Darwinism."
Gould
right next to the quote mine of yours.
Quote Mine project, Talkorigins
transtlantic 5 days ago
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@transdummass, "The modern theory of evolution does not require gradual change" HAR HAR HAR HAR YEAH DUMMASS and neither does CREATION. Keep talking though dummass. HAR HAR HAR
Just keep on pwning yourself.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
MaximusArurealius 5 days ago
@MaximusRetardus
Following this passage is:
"Evolution proceeds in two major modes. In the first, phyletic transformation, an entire population changes from one state to another. .... The second mode, speciation, replenishes the earth. New species branch off from a persisting parental stock.
Gould
how is this Gould supporting creationism? I am astonished by max, the tard (retired knot teacher) dishonesty...but then again...all religious fundies act the same way...
transtlantic 5 days ago
ATTENTION FOLKS PUBLIC NOTICE
Gould shot down evolution theory 4 different ways in one simple sentence. “I want to argue that the ‘sudden’ appearance of species in the fossil record and our failure to note subsequent evolutionary change within them is the proper prediction of evolutionary theory as we understand it."
1. Sudden appearance = Creation
2. No evolutionary change = Creation
3. Evolution predicts no evolution
4. "We don't understand evolution theory"
MaximusArurealius 6 days ago
Gould:
"I confess, I cringe, knowing full well what all the creationists who deluge me with letters must be thinking. "So Gould admits that we can trace no evolutionary ladder among early African hominids; species appear and later disappear, looking no different from their great-grandfathers. Sounds like special creation to me." ... I suggest that the fault is not with evolution itself, but with a false picture of its operation that most of us hold -- namely the ladder . . . (pp. 60-61)
transtlantic 6 days ago