James White: Sign of Jonah, Use of Baigent,lie on soma use

[stronzo5785]

Shadid, I just revisited this video after another Muslim tried to use this same argument to "prove" that Jesus was alive when taken off of the cross...and his reaction was exactly the same as yours.

Why is it that we who disagree with Muslims are met with the same labeling and ad-hom attacks? I confronted him with his error, and I was met with a barrage of personal insults and profanity, as well...why?

[MrIslamAnswersback]

@stronzo5785 Because many of you who disagree dont just disagree but express bigotry and hatred which seems more to be the reason for the disagreement rather than just theological disagreement.When you disagreed what else did you say? Did you make any offensive comment about all muslims or insult Allah? How many times have those who disagreed with me called me a muslim nigger. If they disagree what does calling me a muslim nigger have to do with it? And what error do you speak of?

[MrIslamAnswersback]

@stronzo5785 Many of you people act like you are innocent angels , but when you are responded to after you had insulted us now you want to pretend like the muslims are the bad guys. Yet the offensive statements and rudeness came from you guys 1st.

[stronzo5785]

@MrIslamAnswersback...the error to which I refer, buried within your categorizing screed, is that Jesus was alive when He was taken down from the cross. Believing this requires one to believe that a Roman centurion would risk losing his life, that all eyewitnesses to Jesus' crucifixion would all lie, and...well, you get the point. It's a stretch, my friend.

I never insulted you, or your video. I didn't insult your god or your prophet. But you did label me, proving my point.

[MrIslamAnswersback]

@stronzo5785 No I dont get the point since there is no proof of any such event in the Roman records in the 1st place. So its not a stretch. But lets say it did happen, why would 'nt the Roman risk his life. Pilate already said Jesus was innocent, and One Gospel says a Roman soldier allegedly confesses jesus was the son of God. So why would it a stretch then?

No point is proven as I didnt label you, I ASKED YOU if you may have insulted, so please stop .

[almao2006]

James White is a Liar!!!!

I saw many White Videos and i can only say that he is lying all the time.

There is only one explication for such an Behavior(Propaganda).

They don't believe even in christianity. They are only interesting for Money.....

Like all the Priest and evangelicals in the USA

[tonglongkid]

Look when the Europeans gave the bible they didnt realise that some of us would actually read it and find out that no where does it say that Jesus was white. Christianity never came from the west as Im sure you will know, it came from the east so all this rubbish about it being a white man religion IS GARBAGE. WE HAVE JUST BEEN FOOLED INTO THINKING THAT THROUGH DECEPTION

[AllahsCreation]

3:118. O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom.

[AllahsCreation]

AllahsCreation is a white man mr Oakley and i will put a video up exposing your faith..

In Bosnia muslims are aware of racism in christianity as all the Serbs in Bosnia are Ortodox Christians & they love their faith, we also know that they booed English black soccer players calling them monkeys...where did they learn this from???

[YeshaYah581]

Thank you for allowing the video response. I appreciate it.

[almays88]

asalamou alykoum bro well done on ur vids all of them are amazing, im lebanese and really enjoyed the refuting vids of the bridgeet. can ask u though wen will we be able to c the full debate.thanks bro waalaykoum eslaam

[imadhurata]

well we ask if we don't know, not pressume.

[imadhurata]

Jpangyarihan, here we are again, taking a simple comment of of context, my friend above is talking about the major signs of the day of judgement, the sun rising in the west and setting in the east, the beast that rises from the ground, the desending of jesus, the coming of dajjal n some more, not a threat.

[DemijanOmeragic]

I think you're doing a FANTASTIC job with your videos brother. I tried to send you a private message but you have friend lock enabled. Is there a chance you can add me so I can send you a private message? I would really appreciate it. Thank you.

[MrIslamAnswersback]

When did I use profanity any presentation I gave??

[Descendone]

hahaha...keep it up akhi...salaams

[DrOakley1689]

Shadid, are you going to allow my video response to this to appear, or will you suppress it? I have allowed your video responses to my videos. Do you have any response to the information I have provided in my rebuttal?

James White

[MrIslamAnswersback]

I just came online today 4/14/2008. Stop thinking so damn high of yourself. Like I said that night, no one is afraid of you. No one has to suppress anything. You response will apprear and yes I do have a response coming!!!

[DrOakley1689]

Wow...thanks for the kind words! Amazing, just amazing.

[ovaisreza]

Misunderstanding is understatement, i doubt there are any out there who understand such a nonsensical doctrine ever, even primitive Romans 'theology' was better then this!

[ovaisreza]

Tell me if in Jewish tradition people are anointed after death?

[ovaisreza]

Funny a god has to give up his spirit to him self! An amazing sacrifice, where nothing was sacrificed.

[muslim9x9x]

And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why SEEK YE THE LIVING AMONG THE DEAD? (Luke 24:5)

Pilate was SURPRISED to hear that he was already dead. (Mark 15:44)

And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and ANOINT HIM. (Mark 16:1)

Jesus DID'T die thats why they wanted to anoint him!

answering-christianity com/abdullah_smith/jesus_survi­ved_cross htm

[qwertyfshag]

assalamu alaikum,

any time you prove them wrong they claim that it's a mistranslation in their Bible as if they know better than translators

or they cliam that it's out of context

[muslim9x9x]

idiot, you have to read in BETWEEN the lines to discern what the passage is implying. Several parts of the Gospels convey the impression that Jesus survived the cross, no MAN could die within 3 hours. Also, the Pilate doubted that Jesus was dead, he obviously knew it takes MANY days to die. The historian Josephus documents the FACT that many people survived the cross. The spurting of "blood and water" from Jesus' side proves he was ALIVE, it's actually a sign of LIFE, not death.

[facilisdescenus]

QUOTE:"The historian Josephus documents the FACT that many people survived the cross"

No Josephus says 2 persons were taken off the cross early and was given the best medical attention in Rome and 1 was able to survive.

[10tealeaf]

I think Baigent would be pretty insulted to hear He's "just a fiction writting".

This is a guy who's spent the better parts of his life digging up the archeological facts on the life of not only Jesus(as) but the surrounding middle eastern culture. Point: that's just one of your most credible sources. Great job!

[MuslimByChoice]

The Bible itself says the roman solders and jews werent exactly sure that jesus died, they even made a roman soldier to spear jesus body to make sure he died, the Qur'an is right when it says they followed conjecture.

[sunilrc]

BoricuaMuslimah : "Allah in the Quran told us that they did not killed him nor crucified him". That would amount to believing against all available evidences and 1st century sources. It is impossible for any reasonable person to believe that God sends someone after 600 years and reveal that it was all a public deception enacted by God deceiving the disciples/apostles of Jesus and the entire public into thinking that Jesus died on the cross by making it appear so.

[hachuninho]

I am so proud to have a brother like you

greetings from Brazil!

[DivineLove247]

One big observation, I have observed over the last few years on YouTube,

The more practicing Christians they profess,

the bigger liars, and deceivers they are,and yet these lying Christians accuse us Muslims of lying when try to make a mountain out of the molehill, that is taqya!

[sunilrc]

It is not enough to suggest that a book is not listed as 'fiction' - one still needs to verify the authenticity, look at evidences based on early primary sources etc. In a scholarly debate, one should be willing to backup the claims from primary sources (even while quoting other scholars), particularly when major claims are made.

[sunilrc]

About 3 days and 3, John Gilchrist explains that Jews counted any part of a day as a whole day. Jesus was in the tomb on the Friday afternoon, was there on Saturday, till sometime before dawn on the Sunday (with officially starts at sunset on the Saturday according to the Jewish calendar). Furthermore the figure of speech, as used in Hebrew, always had the same number of days and nights (like 40 days 40 nights, 3 days 3 nights etc)

[sunilrc]

BoricuaMuslimah: "even if you look at it that way, the most you can come up is three days and two nights". I referred to the figure of speech as used in Hebrew, always had the same number of days and nights (like 40 days 40 nights, 3 days 3 nights etc used several places in OT/NT). So "three days and three nights", in Jewish terminology, did not imply a full period of three actual days and three actual nights but was a colloquialism used to cover any part of the first and third days.

[sunilrc]

Race is irrelevant unless you are trying to trace it to life/actions/message of Jesus (just as islamic terrorism and religious communalism/fanatism is only relevant in so far as it is linked to life/actions/message of Muhammad). In my own country for example, it is the lowest social stata of society that has embraced Christianity and it is often looked down upon for that reason. It just so happenned that one particular painting of Jesus became more famous.

[sunilrc]

Even without going into the details of soma etc, are you seriously arguing that the NT writers believed, proclaimed, wrote and died as martyrs knowing that Jesus did not die on the cross? The argument is a non-starter and do not know why you are even attempting to argue it. It is impossible to derive from NT docs that Jesus did not die on the cross. Secondly, race is irrelevant unless you are trying to trace it to life/actions/message of Jesus.

[kareemabdullah]

we are saying that they believed it, but that when they were compiling the nonsense they accidentally left the evidence behind that proved originally it didn't say jesus was crucified

[muslim9x9x]

become more aggressive with these INFIDELS brother

[antichristawakens]

MESSAGE FOR MrIslamAsnwersback

i just wanted to say youre doing really well, youre so cool, you butcher their comments and claims:D just keep doing.

take care

ALLAH HAFIZ!!

[antichristawakens]

oooohhhh yes i didnt notice that, why is god a white man, why not a black man:D and why is he like european and not a palestinian.:D

[shazad418]

Jazak Allah khair.

another excellent video exposeing the lies

keep up the good work

[xMuslimSouljax]

salam akhi,great vid keep it up.

[webdawah]

Jazak Allah khair for your efforts.