Coast to Coast AM - 5 of 11 - 9/11 Debate (Aug. 21, 2010)

[newsmanbluesman]

Staring at mr thomas, from just 8 truckloads of planted explosives away, is an enhanced Al Qaeda blame-scheme - but just like with Dallas, the LN/de-bunk faction never uses these gifts - gifts which arrive via our CT research! George de Mohrenschildt - meet the Sarasota gated community Saudis! And thanks for coming out.

[bluestargalaxy]

again, the explosion sounds has been recorded !!!

both before and during the towers fell

-- search 911 soundwaves on youtube

[danno88]

I can's take anymore of this idiotic reasoning, Ian and Dave needs to just stick their heads back in the sand. It's much better to live your life with your head in the sand and let everyone think your a stupid idiot than to open your mouth and prove it.

[mikeyt34]

Thermite or explosives Gage...Pick one you moron. Why can't you truthers see the flaws in his argument? Gage may sound like he's know what he is talking about, but he simply has you truthers fooled. He's a snake oil salesman and a charlatan.

[celebritysketches]

Why is it that one camp continuously references sources and the other doesn't? Interestingly the one that doesn't reference any real sources and only really uses "scientific possibilities" is the one that backs up the mainstream media story, whereas the other backs up their possible science theories for 911 with accurate reference points.

[mikeyt34]

@celebritysketches Glad you agree. The NIST report and a physics professor's research was full of scientific possibiliies whereas Gage's analysis is based on speculation and imaginary explosives that were developed and set in place in fantasy land. Finally, one of you twoofers got it right. Congrats.

[celebritysketches]

@mikeyt34 "Twoofer"!! I bet you're a 9/11 nut job aren't you!?! Go argue with someone who gives a s**t and stop pestering people who have lives outside of 9/11 and YouTube! "Twoofers" is a somewhat dim insult from the opposite extremist who don't realise they are extremist... of which my friend, you are one!!

[danno88]

@celebritysketches Someone who has a life outside of YouTube? Where do you think you just posted your comment you idiot.

[celebritysketches]

@danno88 OK, let me clarify the obvious. The other dude called me a "twoofer" and you then called me and "idiot" for pointing out ( quite obviously ) that the other guy was far more passionate about this subject than me. Listen to the video, comment if you wish but when you get so passionate that you want to start wars over it, it's time to put down the pizza box and go outside for some fresh air mate! PS. this arrived in my work email box, I am not sat on Youtube.

[Downbeatoff]

1) Building 7

2) Pentagon impact hole

case closed...

[danp5648]

Boy Dave's silence non answering the question was crazy. He was thinking about pre explosion question and now Thermite explosion question. His reply was "well how can get horizontal forces without a lot of sound"? So sound = horizontal force. Dave does not talk about what happened to the structure above the crash, only below. You can see NIST working on that problem in videos. No models were ever made and the subject dropped. What happened to those pools of metal/steel anyway?

[MIndmaster911]

lol does he accept the upper floors were destroyed or not, he claims that the floors in pieces could still do the damage to the lower floors, but then how could it be a huge bicycle pump lololol, and aswell most of his points are based around the assumption that planes hit.......when in fact they did not

[yourmumstube78]

This is so frustrating, here is one web site among many that have video and sound recorded evidance of explosions ffs

why did Richard no mention the actual recordings which was the only pitifull denial they are both clinging on to for dear life.

here:

911speakoutdotorg

[yourmumstube78]

Ive seen at least 4 videos of fire fightrs people and cops with easly audiable explosions, people even falling over with fear before the collapse even started. there all over you tube

[xtcongo]

That's right, it didn't pancake. It exploded into dust particles. Huge girders being blasted outwards and upwards instantly at 70 miles an hour for 500 feet.

You just have to look at genuine collapses, or huge skyscraper fires recently....but it's not just about the towers, there are hundreds of anomalies. There's all the analysis that the Pilots have done with the Pentagon. The laughable crashsite of flight 93. The Norad shutdown. Hundreds and hundreds of anomalies can't list em all here.

[grandmastershek]

@14:14 Richie dodges again.

[grandmastershek]

@rickzters

You would need a sufficient fulcrum.

[grandmastershek]

@rickzters

No one has been saying it pancaked for about 3 years; asied for truthers who never read the reports.

In response to your post in general see dynamic load versus static load.

[Quakez0r]

Thomas, please do not tell lies like this. We're not stupid. Think of the people that died on that God forsaken day, and what that day meant for Iraq. Have some respect.

[grandmastershek]

@Quakez0r "We're not stupid."

Thats not what your post says. Appeal to emotion and consequence.

[Seigu007]

Richard Gage pwned these ignorant naive human shits.

[560e]

Gage just slays the skeptic magazine guy.

[MiaRyanne]

The pancaked floors have been found? Really? Dave (must be smoking crack) Thomas. These debunkers can't be the best the "official story" has to offer? Can they? Dave needs a good smack in the head to get the synapses firing again.

[sssssjjjj1]

THis Ian guy must be embarrassed by the way he sided with the gov. This is bad. Remember the firemen that said, "It was like one of those demolition, where they blow it floor by floor and you heard the, (with his hand above his head coming down in stop go action in 4 inch intervals) bam! bam! bam! bam!" Then his workmates join in interupting saying, "yah, it was like one of those you see in vegas when they blow up a building using explosives, boom boom boom! floor by floor!" What a disgrace.

[grandmastershek]

@sssssjjjj1 " Remember the firemen that said, 'It was [LIKE] one of those demolition..."

See "simile" and stop parading your ignorance around.

[xtcongo]

Yeah if it was like a bicycle pump like he said, then there would be a cushion of air resisting collapse.

So we're sposed to believe the building comming down was held up by those little puffs of stuff coming out.....

Come on if there was enough pressure to blow out windows at 100 mph then it would've blown out all windows on each floor.

[grandmastershek]

@xtcongo

This isn't a movie. The weakest point of resistance would give first.

[awatcher1980]

Ian is like Dave's cheerleader.

[Seigu007]

@awatcher1980 You can explain away anything with Fire!

[grandmastershek]

@Seigu007

Even more with just saying "We need an new investiagtion"

[JZJYRWO]

There was evidence of radiation on 9/11, there is China Syndrome at Ground Zero! Thermite couldn't have been the main component of this demolition.

[mooners40]

like a giant bicycle pump? Why did the designers say that each floor was hermetically sealed to aid fire prevention?What mechanism allows air to travel through complete intact floors 30 floors down and eject debris out at the speeds witnessed? The core was not a hollow steel shaft , contrary to the Commission report lies. The core supported the gravitational load.

What explosive hurled the girders? Exactly - gravity could not have done it - it pulls down - it does not eject laterally

[grandmastershek]

@mooners40

What explosive hurled the girders yet avoided any recording?

Yes gravity pulls down....try accounting for the reaction of what happens when gravity drives an object into a resisting object. When a super ball hits the ground and bounces back are you equally surprised?

[mooners40]

@grandmastershek you think no one heard explosions? where have you been? Read the oral histories of the fdny - try Macqueen's article on 118 testimonies of fdny

and watch ' 9/11 explosive reality ' and get your head out your ass

[grandmastershek]

@mooners40

I am well aware of Macqueens work and how he took quotes of people describing bodies hitting the ground and used it as evidence of explosives. Good job supporting these assholes.

Explosions are expected during fires. Loud piercing explosions from bombs are heard for a mile and are recordable. Only in truther land do they dodge microphones.

[xtcongo]

@grandmastershek Of course they didn't dodge microphones. there is plenty of evidence captured on mic of explosions.

/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM

take that one for example....gonna blame those noises on burning office furniture?

[grandmastershek]

@xtcongo

Wow....an explosion after the collapses. What an ingenious way to destroy a building.

[grandmastershek]

Cute little dance btw Mooners. We were talking about the steel being ejected during the collapse which emitted no sounds of explosions. So how did these explosions dodge the microphones?

[mooners40]

@grandmastershek

"I am well aware of Macqueens work and how he took quotes of people describing bodies hitting the ground and used it as evidence of explosives" - you said

You are CLEARLY not aware and are either stupid or lying - the explosions they talk about are not bodies falling

[grandmastershek]

@mooners40

My bad. Dylan Avery and Griffin were the ones with the bodies. MacQueen just incessantly quote mines.

Here's an example of MacQueen taking quotes out of context. Of his 31 people from the oral histories referencing a bomb he quoted Timothy Burke "it seemed like I was going oh, my god, there is a secondary device because the way the building popped I thought it was an explosion."

We could look at W. Kowalczyk...who makes no mention of explosions, bombs, etc. whatsoever.

More?

[mooners40]

@grandmastershek you use quote mining as some sort of derogatory term - if a quote makes your viewpoint ridiculous then you should look at your viewpoint - those fdny people were there - the least you can do is read - how dare you say that their quotes are not referring to explosions - and you Burke quote - "i thought it was an explosion " so do you mean that his saying 'i thought it was' meant that it wasn't ? and your Kowalczyk? There could be lots of reasons why he didn't hear anything

[grandmastershek]

@mooners40 It is dergoatory. taking a segment of a quote and manipulating it or taking it out of context of the body and making a deceptive assertion isnt a good thing where I come from.

If you look at the quotes MacQueen uses you will see they are describing cars or the tower collapses.

[mooners40]

@grandmastershek" Richard Banaciski, 9110253

South Tower:

We were there I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an

explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going

all the way around like a belt, all these explosions"

Richard Boeri, 9110302

South Tower:

"Eddie

Kennedy and the officer, when you heard the crackling. You looked up and you saw the one

floor explode on itself and the top start to slide." Just two

[grandmastershek]

@mooners40

Yes...these are the explosions during the collapses that apparently no audio had recorded.

But I guess explosives now "crackle".

[mooners40]

@grandmastershek an explosion can be described like that if it is small - and lots of small ones make a big effect - try reading the article '118 Witnesses:

The Firefighters’ Testimony to Explosions in the Twin Towers

Graeme MacQueen

August 21, 2006' it sources the oral histories - you can guess what you like - but try reading it - you said that the explosions were bodies - wrong - it's not hard to read is it ?

[mooners40]

@grandmastershek any bodies mentioned there? You haven't read it at all watch?v=xpoAmEGdsn4 and listen to Craig Bartmer - and watch' 9/11 explosive reality ' there were lots of explosions and evidence of them - you can't ignore

Michelle Scott an office worker said " we ran down the steps to the lobby , there was no lobby , everything was TORN UP and even THE TURNSTILE was BURNT and sticking up.

Evalle Sweezer, office worker said " the lobby was totally gone" - hit 96 floors up?

[cynthiaiam1]

absolute , shit!!!

[nikamota]

"the parts of the collapse would sound like explosions thats for sure......umm........."

No David,because no steel framed high rise building has ever collapsed from fire and will never collapse from fire,so you have no precedent to assume that steel framed buildings which are collapsing from fire sound like explosives.

OK David???

[blavatsky3]

vvww dot AE911truth dot or g

Wouldn't a proper independent investigation answer all these questions once and for all ?

Why oppose such an investigation unless you are trying to cover something up ...

sniff sniff something smells fishy

[FlyDad77]

Dave Thomas' data..."like a bi-cycle pump"... 'nuff said...give me a break...

[hb091666]

I haven't been able to post a link to the video, but David Chandler posted an excellent video which shows and plays recordings of some of the explosions. If interested, search WTC 7: Sound Evidence for Explosions on David Chandler's YouTube channel.

[interlovepol]

surprised the trolls havnt commented on this one yet....here come some ad-hominems against Richar Gage.  Punnet= Jesuit

[unclelight]

The Bush/Cheney admin along with those CIA operatives involved in the demolition of the twin towers had to make sure everyone in the towers perished so that there would be no witnesses.