Hi Vespers, excellent, to the point, no waffling on. Are you doing this in complex warp mode? If not is there any advantage do you think, in doing so.
The opening screen is really cool, and the music is good, but the "vespers.ca" at the bottom is EXTREMELY PLAIN and takes away from the original-ness of it... a simple font change would make a huge difference
love your technique, but y'all might wanna add warp markers along the way even if you're not making corrections or else your warp markers at further points in the audio will slightly drag your previously scanned transients.
DUDE. great fucking idea on using the loop marker to accelerate this shit. hated dragging the track manually, especially on a laptop. thx a lot man rly helped with my mixing
holy shit that isnt music thats complete noise, thats absolutely disgusting holy fuck! and also manually adding warp markers messes up the track you should be doing warp from here at 127bpm
Seriously man, thank you so much for your free ebook. I waste so much time doing things that could probably easily be automated, and I'm learning secrets in your book which are helping me save sooooo much time. Thanks so much. When I drop my album you'll be getting a shout out for sure ;)
Hey Vespers this has nothing to do with this video but it's the first one i came to in search, can a desired selection of midi notes from one midi clip be copied and inserted/pasted into another midi clip which already has a recorded/written part, in Ableton? As can be done in fruity loops piano role has its annoying having to leave Lives enviroment with rewire. Kind regards Tommee
when i play it from beginning to end the metronome is in beat and in sync but when i skip to the middle or any where else the metronome plays out of sync thanks 4 the reply
u r a genious an have realy helped me i was doing it a realy long way before this i have a question though my metronome goes out of sync when i click play on the track any where else Apart from the beginning is there a way to resolve this
@DJKUTFLOW Glad this helped out. It's impossible for a metronome to go out of sync ;) The track is going out of sync due to warping issues. You need to ensure it's warped properly by following this process. If the track is warped, but goes out of sync when you advance the play position, try pressing the stop button for Live and then clicking in the clip with your play icon.
@DJVespers - Thanks for this video. It is a real time saver. Been having two problems though. Sometime I am not sure where to set the warp marker because the sound waves are super bunched up and concentrated and it is hard to tell where the beat starts. (running out of type space will post the rest below)
The other issue is when I am zoomed in really closed and i am wanting to to trigger the track from a certain point on the timeline, it always jumps to the next whole number in the beat cycle. It won't let me trigger in between say 8 and 9 for instance on an in between count 8.1, 8.2 or whatever, which makes it hard to here what it sounds like when I set a warp marker.
So when I am unsure of where to drop the marker and am zoomed in to set it, I can't trigger it from that spot and hear what it sounds like to get it right. Any advice would be much appreciated. I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this issue. Your videos are very well done. Visually and audibly. You present the info well and are a great teacher. Thanks again really helpful. Let me know where I can rate you and I am on it.
@wowfuckingnoob OMG PLS STOP USING ALL CAPS FOR NO REASON!!!!!!!>>>>>>?????? :P And yes, whenever you import a track you need to warp it if you changing it's tempo. When you warp it for the first time, make sure you save the clip settings so every time you import it in the future, it'll keep the warping you've done. Cheers!
@Bennanipoductions I really hope this is sarcasm. hahahaha, I can't take it seriously if it isn't. This is the clearest speaking I've heard in a youtube video for a while.
@Bennanipoductions That was a crappy headset mic I used to use. I've got a way better one now, just took me some time to invest in better gear. And those aren't potatoes, they're Cubase dongles I'm chewing. I feed them to my dog when he runs out of Logic install CDs to eat.
i'm checking out some warping for a mix i'm trying to do. But when i allow Live to do it's auto-warp thing, the audio sounds pretty distorted (but it does sound like it's on beat). I was wondering if there's a way to get these glitches/artifacts ironed out? thx <3 ^_^
@Blinksumk ok so just a little snooping around the interwebs... i've been able to fix a little bit of the distortion by changing the warp type from "Beats" to "Tones". Still hasn't fixed it completely, but just wanted to post in case anyone else had the problem
dude, that's an awful lot of work! If you look into your clip overview you can see the original bpm... All you have to do is set the global tempo to exactly this bpm, set the first warpmarker at the first kick and then use warp from here straight.... Voila! This will work 9 out of 10 times and works much faster
You make the best Live vids! I thought I knew how to warp, but your method is better, faster, and easier! Keep the videos coming. You remind me of Deadmau5 before he became famous (I mean that I first came to know him from what he posted on Youtube). You have prosperity coming your way my friend. Thanks for your generosity.
hi, vespers. i'm was wondering a few things. after you warp a track do you save it as a new file or does ableton always keep the same warp points every time you reload it??? or do you have to warp a song everytime you want to use it?? also what is the main reason to warp a song?? please help??? thanks
Nice vid thanks, but quick question. After ableton analyses the track, its has a guess at the bpm, do you gauge the global tempo off that? eg ableton says 127.54 in the sample window, so set abletons global to 127 or 128 and start from there?
@whitesonar Hey mate. No, I don't change Ableton's global tempo. Live is designed to make warped tracks slave their tempo to the master tempo not the other way around. Cheers!
@DJVespers Thanks again man. I've been practising this technique for the last few days and I'm finding it much more reliable than the other videos I've seen on it
Mate you are DAM Legend......Needed this ..your so right because the warp markering can be confusing since you expect it to control things for you, of course you have to tweak, which in alluded me for a while!! Will send you the set when done if you like. One note though, I had to set the fixed grid to 8 bar to assist the Bar skip as you advised so once i worked that out ...good to go...your the man!! ;) Thanks very much owe you a Beer! Syncro 69 V.I.M Records.
hey man great video, very helpful. For djing I've heard the best warp mode is Complex, but I find that is really changes the audio quality. alot of people say to put effects on the master, what do you suggest to restore the sound? thanks
@cristangelomusic Hey mate. Good questions. I actually disagree with both those statements. Complex is great (for entire mixed down tracks) and I don't find it colors the sound at all. And if it did, no effects on the master would correct it.
hey man thanks for responding. I'm just going with what i've read on other forums. I've tried myself and when you compare a track that is warped (in complex mode) to the unwarpped track using the spectrum analyzer i can clearly see there is a slight difference. Complex Mode does sound the best for full audio, but it also causes the audio to reach peak values above the fader value, which is somewhat unusual (beats mode keeps the peak value at the fader) I guess I'm just being too picky@DJVespers
@GanjaSmuggliinG Hey mate, I wouldn't warp anything on the fly in a DJ set if that's what you mean. The warping method is precise if you're using music that has been clocked out by a sequencer. Any type of electronic music.
Yes Indeed!Thank you Mr. Vespers! You are indeed a great instructor. This warping tutorial is the best one out there. Wish I would have discovered this one some time ago. I am steadily making my way thru your vids and they are great, clear, and concise. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. BTW Your music is great as well! I will return the favor by purchasing your new tracks out on Beatport and showing some support! Keep up the great music & videos! Cheers!
I love this guy! Thank you sharing your knowledge, Vespers. I've watched countless videos to help me understand warping and this was hands down the most useful. Thank you!!!
Hi, I have tried to scroll using a Loop of 8 bars from 1 1 1 and the loop seems to move slightly off the 1st beat more and more as I scroll through the track. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Hi, I have tried to scroll using a Loop of 8 bars from 1 1 1 and the loop seems to move slightly off the 1st beat more and more as I scroll through the track. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Also to those who are having problems with artifacts. The best way to avoid artifacts is to create warp markers at significant hits in the music (kicks, snares, crashes, etc).
When the track is warped delete transient markers. The are probably causing most of your artifacts. Beat warp mode is the highest quality if you are not stretching the bpm much. Complex for bigger stretches, but you will lose high frequencies. There are techniques to get the high freqs back - but no space to write here.
@midihendrix The beats warp mode comment is not something I recommend. Beats mode produces significant artifacts even with minor tempo shifts with any type of complex melodic material. For full mix program material, especially in the breakdowns where no beats are present, complex warp mode should be used. I notice a huge difference with complex warp mode selected. I rarely use beats unless it's just for a drum track.
@DJVespers I discovered the same thing. I used to warp all my tracks in Beats mode but I realized later how many artifacts I was creating. Complex mode is significantly better, I wonder how the Complex Pro mode differs from the Complex one...
@lordblame Good question. Complex pro is the same as Complex, but it's designed for when the clip is being transposed up to avoid aliasing. If you're playing the audio clip at default transpose, then Complex is the same. Cheers!
Vespers, nice tutorials but your warping technique is incorrect:
You have a warp marker on bar 1, then bars 9, 17, 25 are fine so you leave them as is. 33 is off so you create a warp marker and adjust the beat. However you do not go back and create a place holding marker on 25. Without such a place holding marker, all music from 1-33 gets shifted from being on to slightly off.
On this track the shifting is hardly noticable. But there is a big difference on dynamic tempo genres such as rock.
Vespers, nice tutorials but your warping technique is incorrect:
You have a warp marker on bar 1, then bars 9, 17, 25 are fine so you leave them as is. 33 is off so you create a warp marker and adjust the beat. However you do not go back and create a place holding marker on 25. Without such a place holding marker, all music from 1-33 gets shifted from being on to slightly off.
On this track the shifting is hardly noticable. But there is a big difference on dynamic tempo genres such as rock.
@midihendrix Hey bro. This tutorial isn't about warping recorded music, such as rock. It's about electronic music clocked with a sequencer with minimal drift. I didn't go back and adjust anything because it didn't need it. The tutorial works just fine for all sequencer clocked music. To go back and adjust would be a waste of time IMO and is unnecessary. Non clocked recordings are another story entirely and are not covered here as I don't use that type of music in my performances at all.
I have found that songs with full instrumentation that are even recording in perfect timing to drum machines still have significant artifacts no matter what I do.... Doesn't Ableton have a "detect BPM" function to serve as a starting point when beginning to warp a track? thanks for the input!
@thetimefly That should only be the case if you're adjusting the tempo significantly. Live will guess at the audio material's tempo for sure. It'll show just beside where you select the warping mode.
@iamdrumatix It's definitely harder with music not made in a sequencer, but possible. Ensure your warp mode is set to Complex for full mix tunes. This should reduce a lot of artifacts. If you're pitching the audio clip (transpose) then use Complex Pro mode. If you adjust the timing too much you'll get artifacts on any piece of music, so depends on how many BPM you're talking about.
@divakaneva The way Live works is to adjust the BPM of the track you're adding to the set's master tempo if warp mode is active. If you want the set's BPM to be the same as the track's default BPM, then you must change the global tempo of Live. Cheers!
Im so new that this warp thing is hard to grasp I understand the beggining of evey 8 beats but there are beats that look like they are behind the loop bar and some in front I cant drag because they go behind the brace if you get what I mean and ableton adds to many the whole song is covered with them
@divakaneva Yeah, make sure you're setting 1.1.1 and then selecting "warp from here straight". That'll clear out all the remaining random warp markers and allow you to start fresh.
How come it misses the start of some tracks? I know its finding the first beat but when I load an Accapella it will sometimes take a whole verse off!!! How do I udo or amend???
@bongoloid77 Yeah, that's the most common error that happens. Not sure why exactly. Most likely it's because the first beat is not well defined. So, with your acapella I'm not surprised as there are no beats. You fix it by going to the beginning and selecting "set 1.1.1 here". Cheers!
@BeauSun572 It's the whole process. This is the fastest, easiest way I've found to warp. There are lots of ways of going about it, this one has worked the best for me. Cheers!
Thanks for the video! I just witch from 7 to 8 and was really regretting the change until now. I use ableton once in awhile to make mixes to post up for radio shows, so i like the mix to be perfect. This warping thing was killing me until now. Thanks alot..
@1andOnlyShorte Yeah I hear ya. That was my main challenge with the program until I learned this technique. Warping used be so frustrating. Glad I could help. Cheers!
DjVespers I have a track I am trying to warp right now, and I can't seem to figure out why when I attempt this the Metronome starts at tock. Usually when we warp a song it goes tic, tock, tock, tock, tock but when I follow your steps this particular song always starts on the tock. I'm trying to figure out a better way of asking this but hopefully you understand?
@MateoYVR Hmmmmmm, make sure your start marker is in the right place. Have you used "set 1.1.1 here"? Also make sure the track is snapped to the grid at the beginning of a bar if you have it in arrange view. Obviously try closing and opening the project again, turning on and off the metronome. If none of that works, chat with Ableton tech support or hit up their forums. Hope this helps. Cheers mate!
This is a newb question, but how can you tell when it is off by scrolling through this way and looking at the waveform? I understand where to put the 1st warp marker, but how can you tell when scrolling through the song which parts are off and need to be changed?
Ah, yes. That's why you use the loop brace. Dance music moved in 8 bar phrases and you use the loop brace scrolling technique so you always can snap right to where the first beat of the next phrase should be. Then you just drop the marker and snap it in place. Hope that helps. Post back if you're unclear. Cheers!
what about songs such as rolling stones or bob dylan, nirvana? would that be a 1-bar brace for warping and a lot more warp markers and warping i'm assuming? Thanks a ton for the help btw
Yeah, tunes by real musicians not midi clocked are a lot harder. I'd be hard pressed to say why you'd even be interested in doing that in the first place. Remixing? I'd just leave them unwarped to play naturally. If you must warp them, yeah, use a 1 bar brace and drop lozza markers. Cheers!
hmmm. why would anyone want to mix music that isnt electronic... hmmm, maybe some people like to play a diverse mix that takes skill to mix rather than a bunch of 4/4 shit.
@8trackninja Ah, I could see how you'd think this, but you misread my comment. What I said was that I'd be hard pressed to imagine why someone would want to WARP, not mix, non-midi clocked music. I'm all for mixing diverse stuff. Each genre requires skill. Musical taste, that's an individual thing. Cheers!
I think it's the shift key you're talking about right? (unless it's different on PC vs. Mac, I'm a Mac guy). I almost never use this, unless I dropped a marker in the wrong place. I usually just double click exactly where I want the marker to appear on the transient, then snap it into place. If you're doing this with dance music clocked by a sequencer, it shouldn't do any drastic changes.
That being said, if you drop a marker and drag it really far it will create massive, audible artifacts. You shouldn't ever need to move a marker very far with this technique though. Every track exported by a sequencer should be almost bang on with very little drift. Music recorded from live musicians, however, is not very tempo accurate so this technique would not work as well.
well the problem i'm talking about is it not only makes artifacts but it makes passages of music disappear. anyways not trying to sound like a know it all - i tried to do a video reply so we could look at it more closely but my system was giving me trouble.
Hmmmm, I've never experienced this problem - like, ever, and I've done some extreme warping. I'd say you have a bug or glitch in the program. Also, what mode are you using? I use complex. If you're having this type of trouble, I'd say contact Ableton tech support. I've never heard of or experienced it myself. Cheers!
OMG! Thank you. I dj the old fashioned way (well with serato), because i find warping so laborious... this is a life saver... you've literally changed my life with ableton; we're gonna be a lot closer from here on in ;-)
Awesome mate! This is the kind of stuff I like to hear, as this is why I post these things! Now you can be an Ableton ninja and rock that action. Cheers.
Yeah, I mix a lot of glitch and dubstep too. Switching between tempos can be a bit of a bitch. I mark them all up so they're locked to master tempo, then I map master tempo to the cue knob on my APC40 so I have live control over it. When I move from 100 bmp glitch to 140 bpm/70bpm dubstep, I loop the last beat of the glitch track, then jack the tempo and trigger some atmospherics in a sampler for transition. Try it!
Thanks mate. It's my logo with a custom animation sequence overlaid. Music is the General Midi remix of my track, We Get Wicked feat. MC Vex on Pop + Lock Records. Thanks for watching!
Hi Vespers, excellent, to the point, no waffling on. Are you doing this in complex warp mode? If not is there any advantage do you think, in doing so.
TheProfessordong 3 days ago
why does canada own so much at production :U
bigbagron 3 days ago
Many thanks. At last, a simple warping video that ACTUALLY WORKS !!!!!
dizzy67 2 weeks ago
The opening screen is really cool, and the music is good, but the "vespers.ca" at the bottom is EXTREMELY PLAIN and takes away from the original-ness of it... a simple font change would make a huge difference
Just trying to help
SharpChurR0 3 weeks ago
Nice tut...
303central 3 weeks ago
love your technique, but y'all might wanna add warp markers along the way even if you're not making corrections or else your warp markers at further points in the audio will slightly drag your previously scanned transients.
peskasker 1 month ago
DUDE. great fucking idea on using the loop marker to accelerate this shit. hated dragging the track manually, especially on a laptop. thx a lot man rly helped with my mixing
thedude019 1 month ago
Thanks for this. 7 was so much easier to warp full tracks. QUESTION: Do you delete all the remaining transients or just leave them in?
relevnt2myinterests 1 month ago
Super helpful; thanks so much.
EnterTheFain 2 months ago
holy shit that isnt music thats complete noise, thats absolutely disgusting holy fuck! and also manually adding warp markers messes up the track you should be doing warp from here at 127bpm
Andreilg3 2 months ago
@Andreilg3 and this isn't "power warping" or something you "developed" you just said the most rudimentary and incorrect form of warping, gj
Andreilg3 2 months ago
@Andreilg3 And what if the tempo floats?
W4RW017 1 month ago
Seriously man, thank you so much for your free ebook. I waste so much time doing things that could probably easily be automated, and I'm learning secrets in your book which are helping me save sooooo much time. Thanks so much. When I drop my album you'll be getting a shout out for sure ;)
caitiffchoir 2 months ago
secret? are you sure?
MarcioYTchannel 2 months ago
Is this Bruce Willis?
DJKWICK954 3 months ago
You're Canadian?
pulsewreck 3 months ago
Hey Vespers this has nothing to do with this video but it's the first one i came to in search, can a desired selection of midi notes from one midi clip be copied and inserted/pasted into another midi clip which already has a recorded/written part, in Ableton? As can be done in fruity loops piano role has its annoying having to leave Lives enviroment with rewire. Kind regards Tommee
TOMMEEH2 3 months ago
"You'll have to pardon this piece of music, it's absolutely terrible." bwahahahhahah I love it!!!!!
alienscape 4 months ago
yeah it worked and everything but the track still "lags" kinda..it like glitches but really faintly
RadioDust1 4 months ago
when i play it from beginning to end the metronome is in beat and in sync but when i skip to the middle or any where else the metronome plays out of sync thanks 4 the reply
DJKUTFLOW 4 months ago
u r a genious an have realy helped me i was doing it a realy long way before this i have a question though my metronome goes out of sync when i click play on the track any where else Apart from the beginning is there a way to resolve this
DJKUTFLOW 4 months ago
@DJKUTFLOW Glad this helped out. It's impossible for a metronome to go out of sync ;) The track is going out of sync due to warping issues. You need to ensure it's warped properly by following this process. If the track is warped, but goes out of sync when you advance the play position, try pressing the stop button for Live and then clicking in the clip with your play icon.
DJVespers 4 months ago
@DJVespers - Thanks for this video. It is a real time saver. Been having two problems though. Sometime I am not sure where to set the warp marker because the sound waves are super bunched up and concentrated and it is hard to tell where the beat starts. (running out of type space will post the rest below)
spiritmedicine42 3 weeks ago
The other issue is when I am zoomed in really closed and i am wanting to to trigger the track from a certain point on the timeline, it always jumps to the next whole number in the beat cycle. It won't let me trigger in between say 8 and 9 for instance on an in between count 8.1, 8.2 or whatever, which makes it hard to here what it sounds like when I set a warp marker.
spiritmedicine42 3 weeks ago
So when I am unsure of where to drop the marker and am zoomed in to set it, I can't trigger it from that spot and hear what it sounds like to get it right. Any advice would be much appreciated. I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this issue. Your videos are very well done. Visually and audibly. You present the info well and are a great teacher. Thanks again really helpful. Let me know where I can rate you and I am on it.
spiritmedicine42 3 weeks ago
hahaha very good ..chewing those pesky dongles..:))
a question..if i warp all tracks to the same bpm,when ,change global tempo all will follow and plays perfectly?
tabipapi 4 months ago
@tabipapi Yes.
DJVespers 4 months ago
hahaha very good ..chewing those pesky dongles..:))
tabipapi 4 months ago
DO U HAVE TO WARP EVERY SINGLE TRACK IN YOUR ENTIRE LIBRARY OR IS THERE A FASTER WAY?????? PLZ HELP
wowfuckingnoob 4 months ago
@wowfuckingnoob OMG PLS STOP USING ALL CAPS FOR NO REASON!!!!!!!>>>>>>?????? :P And yes, whenever you import a track you need to warp it if you changing it's tempo. When you warp it for the first time, make sure you save the clip settings so every time you import it in the future, it'll keep the warping you've done. Cheers!
DJVespers 4 months ago
Great tutorial. Thanks!
NinjaAnonymous 5 months ago in playlist Ableton Live
Do you have mash potatoes in ur mouth while ur talking?
Bennanipoductions 5 months ago
@Bennanipoductions I really hope this is sarcasm. hahahaha, I can't take it seriously if it isn't. This is the clearest speaking I've heard in a youtube video for a while.
CalvinMcCaskill 5 months ago
@Bennanipoductions That was a crappy headset mic I used to use. I've got a way better one now, just took me some time to invest in better gear. And those aren't potatoes, they're Cubase dongles I'm chewing. I feed them to my dog when he runs out of Logic install CDs to eat.
DJVespers 4 months ago 9
That was very easy to understand, thank you
SouthernCumfart 5 months ago
i'm checking out some warping for a mix i'm trying to do. But when i allow Live to do it's auto-warp thing, the audio sounds pretty distorted (but it does sound like it's on beat). I was wondering if there's a way to get these glitches/artifacts ironed out? thx <3 ^_^
Blinksumk 5 months ago
@Blinksumk ok so just a little snooping around the interwebs... i've been able to fix a little bit of the distortion by changing the warp type from "Beats" to "Tones". Still hasn't fixed it completely, but just wanted to post in case anyone else had the problem
Blinksumk 5 months ago
OOOHH, IM SUCH A SILLY!!
BenJamminAmes 7 months ago
I would however like to see Tips and Tricks on warping Vocals and variable tempo tracks.
DJGRANTCARLISLE 7 months ago 6
This is a pretty nice take/Tip on warping. Cheers!
DJGRANTCARLISLE 7 months ago
dude, that's an awful lot of work! If you look into your clip overview you can see the original bpm... All you have to do is set the global tempo to exactly this bpm, set the first warpmarker at the first kick and then use warp from here straight.... Voila! This will work 9 out of 10 times and works much faster
puikegast 8 months ago 2
@puikegast only with dance music though
bclaus0 7 months ago
@bclaus0 you're right, i'd forgot to mention....
puikegast 7 months ago
Nice Video
New minimal electro Tutorial @ my channel....check it out!!!
exarmee 9 months ago
You may want to add to save the warped marker so you don't have to warp it again and also change it from transients to 1/8
theoriginaldjtranz 9 months ago
You make the best Live vids! I thought I knew how to warp, but your method is better, faster, and easier! Keep the videos coming. You remind me of Deadmau5 before he became famous (I mean that I first came to know him from what he posted on Youtube). You have prosperity coming your way my friend. Thanks for your generosity.
Narz3000 9 months ago
Vespers is a very sympathetic guy!
TranceForTheFuture 10 months ago
Great video, thanks for the tip! I'm a Logic use trying to wrap my head around Live for performing.
mindphlux 10 months ago
Cool warping shit track lol thanks for the tip
grantwho 10 months ago
hi, vespers. i'm was wondering a few things. after you warp a track do you save it as a new file or does ableton always keep the same warp points every time you reload it??? or do you have to warp a song everytime you want to use it?? also what is the main reason to warp a song?? please help??? thanks
GregoryGraveyard 10 months ago
@GregoryGraveyard all of your questions can be answered by reading the Ableton manual under the warping section ;)
DennisVlaanderen 9 months ago
Easiest warping tutorial I have ever seen.
Thank you.
trinidakid 10 months ago
Are you.....God? (Kidding)
I'm new to live, and you are going to be my newest best friend.
victordemise 11 months ago
Easiest and best tutorial. Thanks alot
djspn 11 months ago
Nice vid thanks, but quick question. After ableton analyses the track, its has a guess at the bpm, do you gauge the global tempo off that? eg ableton says 127.54 in the sample window, so set abletons global to 127 or 128 and start from there?
whitesonar 11 months ago
@whitesonar Hey mate. No, I don't change Ableton's global tempo. Live is designed to make warped tracks slave their tempo to the master tempo not the other way around. Cheers!
DJVespers 11 months ago
@DJVespers awesome, that helps. cheers!
whitesonar 11 months ago
@DJVespers Thanks again man. I've been practising this technique for the last few days and I'm finding it much more reliable than the other videos I've seen on it
whitesonar 11 months ago
woooow!thats what I was looking for all the time ;) ....really pro. technique !
deejaysoulution 11 months ago
@deejaysoulution Nice one! Hopefully that gets you warping faster.
DJVespers 11 months ago
whats the track in the beginning???
and this is a great tutorial..
rushiraj 11 months ago
@rushiraj It's the General Midi track of my original called We Get Wicked feat. MC Vex. On Beatport. Cheers!
DJVespers 11 months ago
Thanks, this video was very easy to follow, but I was wondering how would you warp a hip-hop track?
uuLeimaJ 11 months ago
@uuLeimaJ Thanks! I'd warp hop hop exactly the same way. It's all 4/4 music.
DJVespers 11 months ago
@TiMasTV Thanks for watching!
DJVespers 11 months ago
I was getting frustrated by trying to warp my beats to the exact BPM, but i got it now! :)
thanx a lot Vespers!.
(now my next step is to change to the right key)
scontreras325 1 year ago
@scontreras325 You're very welcome. Cheers!
DJVespers 11 months ago
you my friend..are a G :)
zpurpz 1 year ago
Dude you're my fucking hero! Well at least for today :) Thanks !
X820NL 1 year ago
@X820NL Glad to help out mate. Cheers.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Seriously you're the freakin' man.
Lmafilm 1 year ago
@Lmafilm Thanks for watching!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Mate you are DAM Legend......Needed this ..your so right because the warp markering can be confusing since you expect it to control things for you, of course you have to tweak, which in alluded me for a while!! Will send you the set when done if you like. One note though, I had to set the fixed grid to 8 bar to assist the Bar skip as you advised so once i worked that out ...good to go...your the man!! ;) Thanks very much owe you a Beer! Syncro 69 V.I.M Records.
SyncroSixtyNine 1 year ago
@SyncroSixtyNine Cheers Syncro. Glad you found this useful.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Thanks ! this technique will make things much faster and accurate ! :)
twelve11musicAU 1 year ago
@twelve11musicAU Awesome. Glad to speed things up for ya. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Bro, good looks...warping to me was such a headahe especially with acapellas ur the man!
djtitoluv 1 year ago
@djtitoluv Wicked mate. Enjoy being faster!
DJVespers 1 year ago
hey man great video, very helpful. For djing I've heard the best warp mode is Complex, but I find that is really changes the audio quality. alot of people say to put effects on the master, what do you suggest to restore the sound? thanks
cristangelomusic 1 year ago
@cristangelomusic Hey mate. Good questions. I actually disagree with both those statements. Complex is great (for entire mixed down tracks) and I don't find it colors the sound at all. And if it did, no effects on the master would correct it.
DJVespers 1 year ago
hey man thanks for responding. I'm just going with what i've read on other forums. I've tried myself and when you compare a track that is warped (in complex mode) to the unwarpped track using the spectrum analyzer i can clearly see there is a slight difference. Complex Mode does sound the best for full audio, but it also causes the audio to reach peak values above the fader value, which is somewhat unusual (beats mode keeps the peak value at the fader) I guess I'm just being too picky@DJVespers
cristangelomusic 1 year ago
@cristangelomusic If you're not happy with complex then try Repitch, just remember tempo adjustments will affect the pitch like vinyl.
dag451 1 year ago
WOW why are the rest of the videos this simple? Thanks bro this helped a lot I can't wait to go home and try your method.
GrooveElements 1 year ago
@GrooveElements Glad to help out. Simplicity is key when teaching.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Really helpful and easier than all other.
but as u see am not listening to the whole track only parts as u r doing, my question is : in live performances and djing is this method reliable ??
Thanks
GanjaSmuggliinG 1 year ago
@GanjaSmuggliinG Hey mate, I wouldn't warp anything on the fly in a DJ set if that's what you mean. The warping method is precise if you're using music that has been clocked out by a sequencer. Any type of electronic music.
DJVespers 1 year ago
thanks for the great video... you've made my life so much easier!!
ihosny 1 year ago
@ihosny You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
DJVespers 1 year ago
REAL TALK man...I have spent hours on warping...THE BEST , simplest video on warping regardless of what genre of music
ufinn 1 year ago
@ufinn Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Thanks for your guidance! I'm new to recording with Ableton Live 8; awesome vids!
sharlenemusiclover 1 year ago
@sharlenemusiclover You're welcome! Cheers.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Yes Indeed!Thank you Mr. Vespers! You are indeed a great instructor. This warping tutorial is the best one out there. Wish I would have discovered this one some time ago. I am steadily making my way thru your vids and they are great, clear, and concise. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. BTW Your music is great as well! I will return the favor by purchasing your new tracks out on Beatport and showing some support! Keep up the great music & videos! Cheers!
xshannon75 1 year ago
@xshannon75 Thanks for taking the time to write back. Really appreciate the support! Hope you enjoy the new tunes!
DJVespers 1 year ago
I love this guy! Thank you sharing your knowledge, Vespers. I've watched countless videos to help me understand warping and this was hands down the most useful. Thank you!!!
DjOlgaT 1 year ago
@DjOlgaT You're very welcome. Glad you found it useful mate.
DJVespers 1 year ago
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Hi, I have tried to scroll using a Loop of 8 bars from 1 1 1 and the loop seems to move slightly off the 1st beat more and more as I scroll through the track. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Grec0romanrecords 1 year ago
Hi, I have tried to scroll using a Loop of 8 bars from 1 1 1 and the loop seems to move slightly off the 1st beat more and more as I scroll through the track. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
Grec0romanrecords 1 year ago
@Grec0romanrecords I get this sometimes. Just zoom in an adjust your loop start and end points to be bang on the beats. Then move forwards. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Also to those who are having problems with artifacts. The best way to avoid artifacts is to create warp markers at significant hits in the music (kicks, snares, crashes, etc).
When the track is warped delete transient markers. The are probably causing most of your artifacts. Beat warp mode is the highest quality if you are not stretching the bpm much. Complex for bigger stretches, but you will lose high frequencies. There are techniques to get the high freqs back - but no space to write here.
midihendrix 1 year ago
@midihendrix The beats warp mode comment is not something I recommend. Beats mode produces significant artifacts even with minor tempo shifts with any type of complex melodic material. For full mix program material, especially in the breakdowns where no beats are present, complex warp mode should be used. I notice a huge difference with complex warp mode selected. I rarely use beats unless it's just for a drum track.
DJVespers 1 year ago
@DJVespers I discovered the same thing. I used to warp all my tracks in Beats mode but I realized later how many artifacts I was creating. Complex mode is significantly better, I wonder how the Complex Pro mode differs from the Complex one...
Great tutorial though. Keep on!
lordblame 1 year ago
@lordblame Good question. Complex pro is the same as Complex, but it's designed for when the clip is being transposed up to avoid aliasing. If you're playing the audio clip at default transpose, then Complex is the same. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
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Vespers, nice tutorials but your warping technique is incorrect:
You have a warp marker on bar 1, then bars 9, 17, 25 are fine so you leave them as is. 33 is off so you create a warp marker and adjust the beat. However you do not go back and create a place holding marker on 25. Without such a place holding marker, all music from 1-33 gets shifted from being on to slightly off.
On this track the shifting is hardly noticable. But there is a big difference on dynamic tempo genres such as rock.
midihendrix 1 year ago
Vespers, nice tutorials but your warping technique is incorrect:
You have a warp marker on bar 1, then bars 9, 17, 25 are fine so you leave them as is. 33 is off so you create a warp marker and adjust the beat. However you do not go back and create a place holding marker on 25. Without such a place holding marker, all music from 1-33 gets shifted from being on to slightly off.
On this track the shifting is hardly noticable. But there is a big difference on dynamic tempo genres such as rock.
midihendrix 1 year ago
@midihendrix Hey bro. This tutorial isn't about warping recorded music, such as rock. It's about electronic music clocked with a sequencer with minimal drift. I didn't go back and adjust anything because it didn't need it. The tutorial works just fine for all sequencer clocked music. To go back and adjust would be a waste of time IMO and is unnecessary. Non clocked recordings are another story entirely and are not covered here as I don't use that type of music in my performances at all.
DJVespers 1 year ago
I have found that songs with full instrumentation that are even recording in perfect timing to drum machines still have significant artifacts no matter what I do.... Doesn't Ableton have a "detect BPM" function to serve as a starting point when beginning to warp a track? thanks for the input!
thetimefly 1 year ago
@thetimefly That should only be the case if you're adjusting the tempo significantly. Live will guess at the audio material's tempo for sure. It'll show just beside where you select the warping mode.
DJVespers 1 year ago
do you have to round the segment BPM to the nearest whole number at every transient marker after you do this process?
azfiu 1 year ago
@azfiu Nope. I never adjust it. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
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azfiu 1 year ago
what about warping songs that aren't electronic? I keep getting horrible artifacts!
iamdrumatix 1 year ago
@iamdrumatix Are you using Complex warp mode?
DJVespers 1 year ago
@iamdrumatix It's definitely harder with music not made in a sequencer, but possible. Ensure your warp mode is set to Complex for full mix tunes. This should reduce a lot of artifacts. If you're pitching the audio clip (transpose) then use Complex Pro mode. If you adjust the timing too much you'll get artifacts on any piece of music, so depends on how many BPM you're talking about.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Also is there a way to have ableton adjust the songs bpm automatically when I drop it just the 1st track as I been doing it manually
divakaneva 1 year ago
@divakaneva The way Live works is to adjust the BPM of the track you're adding to the set's master tempo if warp mode is active. If you want the set's BPM to be the same as the track's default BPM, then you must change the global tempo of Live. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Im so new that this warp thing is hard to grasp I understand the beggining of evey 8 beats but there are beats that look like they are behind the loop bar and some in front I cant drag because they go behind the brace if you get what I mean and ableton adds to many the whole song is covered with them
divakaneva 1 year ago
@divakaneva Yeah, make sure you're setting 1.1.1 and then selecting "warp from here straight". That'll clear out all the remaining random warp markers and allow you to start fresh.
DJVespers 1 year ago
How come it misses the start of some tracks? I know its finding the first beat but when I load an Accapella it will sometimes take a whole verse off!!! How do I udo or amend???
bongoloid77 1 year ago
@bongoloid77 Yeah, that's the most common error that happens. Not sure why exactly. Most likely it's because the first beat is not well defined. So, with your acapella I'm not surprised as there are no beats. You fix it by going to the beginning and selecting "set 1.1.1 here". Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Beasty!!!
santiking 1 year ago
@santiking Thanks mate.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Recently purchased live 8 and was having difficulty with new warp features, looked at a ton of videos but this one's the best sofar. Great job.
bzgee 1 year ago
@bzgee Thanks! Warping is the first thing you really want to master in Live. Glad to help out.
DJVespers 1 year ago
thank you
TheRuizification 1 year ago
Yeah this works great and easy
Livegutta 1 year ago
so wats the power secret ??
BeauSun572 1 year ago
@BeauSun572 It's the whole process. This is the fastest, easiest way I've found to warp. There are lots of ways of going about it, this one has worked the best for me. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Thanks for the video! I just witch from 7 to 8 and was really regretting the change until now. I use ableton once in awhile to make mixes to post up for radio shows, so i like the mix to be perfect. This warping thing was killing me until now. Thanks alot..
1andOnlyShorte 1 year ago
@1andOnlyShorte Yeah I hear ya. That was my main challenge with the program until I learned this technique. Warping used be so frustrating. Glad I could help. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Single most useful video for any beginning Ableton user.
TechnicsJunkie78 1 year ago
@TechnicsJunkie78 Agreed. Warping is the most important thing to learn.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Even tho I dont use ableton for dance music I love the program,Thanks for sharing you're knowledge, it very helpful and appreciated
cast390 1 year ago
@cast390 Glad to help out. Cheers mate.
DJVespers 1 year ago
hey do you reckon you could make a video about how to make improvised music live in ableton would be great:)
ellise01 1 year ago
@ellise01 Ah, cool idea. I'll add that one to the list. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
After watching about 10 videos about warping this one finally helped me the most! Thanks alot!
LizarDTechno 1 year ago
@LizarDTechno Cheers! I had lots of trouble with warping too and this was the best technique I could find. Have fun!
DJVespers 1 year ago
I rather like it too, what track is this? :p
AppA 1 year ago
@AppA Sorry boys, can't even remember now. It was some random track I dug up that I'd never used in a set and wasn't warped yet. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
never heard this song but I rather like it lol
Sweet video!
opensourcebeats 1 year ago
DjVespers I have a track I am trying to warp right now, and I can't seem to figure out why when I attempt this the Metronome starts at tock. Usually when we warp a song it goes tic, tock, tock, tock, tock but when I follow your steps this particular song always starts on the tock. I'm trying to figure out a better way of asking this but hopefully you understand?
MateoYVR 1 year ago
@MateoYVR Hmmmmmm, make sure your start marker is in the right place. Have you used "set 1.1.1 here"? Also make sure the track is snapped to the grid at the beginning of a bar if you have it in arrange view. Obviously try closing and opening the project again, turning on and off the metronome. If none of that works, chat with Ableton tech support or hit up their forums. Hope this helps. Cheers mate!
DJVespers 1 year ago
This is a newb question, but how can you tell when it is off by scrolling through this way and looking at the waveform? I understand where to put the 1st warp marker, but how can you tell when scrolling through the song which parts are off and need to be changed?
ilikes2party 1 year ago
Ah, yes. That's why you use the loop brace. Dance music moved in 8 bar phrases and you use the loop brace scrolling technique so you always can snap right to where the first beat of the next phrase should be. Then you just drop the marker and snap it in place. Hope that helps. Post back if you're unclear. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
got it, thanks!
ilikes2party 1 year ago
what about songs such as rolling stones or bob dylan, nirvana? would that be a 1-bar brace for warping and a lot more warp markers and warping i'm assuming? Thanks a ton for the help btw
ilikes2party 1 year ago
Yeah, tunes by real musicians not midi clocked are a lot harder. I'd be hard pressed to say why you'd even be interested in doing that in the first place. Remixing? I'd just leave them unwarped to play naturally. If you must warp them, yeah, use a 1 bar brace and drop lozza markers. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
thanks!
ilikes2party 1 year ago
hmmm. why would anyone want to mix music that isnt electronic... hmmm, maybe some people like to play a diverse mix that takes skill to mix rather than a bunch of 4/4 shit.
8trackninja 1 year ago
@8trackninja Ah, I could see how you'd think this, but you misread my comment. What I said was that I'd be hard pressed to imagine why someone would want to WARP, not mix, non-midi clocked music. I'm all for mixing diverse stuff. Each genre requires skill. Musical taste, that's an individual thing. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
i can see dropbox.
junejhunkie 1 year ago
do you ever use the technique where you hold down Cntrl so you don't actually move the marker but the waveform underneath it?
i find in the new warping system that moving a marker as shown in your video can do some very drastic changes to a track.
mrtunes 1 year ago
I think it's the shift key you're talking about right? (unless it's different on PC vs. Mac, I'm a Mac guy). I almost never use this, unless I dropped a marker in the wrong place. I usually just double click exactly where I want the marker to appear on the transient, then snap it into place. If you're doing this with dance music clocked by a sequencer, it shouldn't do any drastic changes.
DJVespers 1 year ago
That being said, if you drop a marker and drag it really far it will create massive, audible artifacts. You shouldn't ever need to move a marker very far with this technique though. Every track exported by a sequencer should be almost bang on with very little drift. Music recorded from live musicians, however, is not very tempo accurate so this technique would not work as well.
DJVespers 1 year ago
well the problem i'm talking about is it not only makes artifacts but it makes passages of music disappear. anyways not trying to sound like a know it all - i tried to do a video reply so we could look at it more closely but my system was giving me trouble.
mrtunes 1 year ago
Hmmmm, I've never experienced this problem - like, ever, and I've done some extreme warping. I'd say you have a bug or glitch in the program. Also, what mode are you using? I use complex. If you're having this type of trouble, I'd say contact Ableton tech support. I've never heard of or experienced it myself. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
your reply seems to have disappeared vespers - but yes i meant shift.
mrtunes 1 year ago
Can you see the replies now? I can see both of them just fine. PM me if you can't. Cheers!
DJVespers 1 year ago
OMG! Thank you. I dj the old fashioned way (well with serato), because i find warping so laborious... this is a life saver... you've literally changed my life with ableton; we're gonna be a lot closer from here on in ;-)
dreddiknight 1 year ago
Awesome mate! This is the kind of stuff I like to hear, as this is why I post these things! Now you can be an Ableton ninja and rock that action. Cheers.
DJVespers 1 year ago
Is this assuming all tracks are the same tempo as the master tempo. I have a tendency to mix dubstep and glitch hop and I find this doesn't work.
plus2sound 2 years ago
Yeah, I mix a lot of glitch and dubstep too. Switching between tempos can be a bit of a bitch. I mark them all up so they're locked to master tempo, then I map master tempo to the cue knob on my APC40 so I have live control over it. When I move from 100 bmp glitch to 140 bpm/70bpm dubstep, I loop the last beat of the glitch track, then jack the tempo and trigger some atmospherics in a sampler for transition. Try it!
DJVespers 1 year ago
Love your opening sequence!
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DirkBigler 2 years ago
Thanks mate. It's my logo with a custom animation sequence overlaid. Music is the General Midi remix of my track, We Get Wicked feat. MC Vex on Pop + Lock Records. Thanks for watching!
DJVespers 2 years ago
" Thanks for the newsletter and the vid!! Keep 'em coming! "
MCMLXXX111 2 years ago
Thanks everyone! Now go get power warping!
DJVespers 2 years ago
great videos sir.
ubtri 2 years ago
sick tutorial!
RemcoMusic 2 years ago
Thankz! this will speed things up nicely.
djSpinege 2 years ago