I didn't have any disdain toward native Americans until the chief was abolished. Now, I just see them as whiners. I think a lot of people are like that too. Is that what you wanted to have happen? Perhaps we should abolish all native American imagery. Let's just forget they ever existed. Is that what will happen next? If you want to convince myself and others that it is good that the chief is gone, post a video explaining why the chief was so offensive. It would better serve your cause.
Have any disdain for the number of white folks whining about PC run amok or "reverse racism" or affirmative action? Didn't think so. Talk about the biggest babies in the world.
@NopeJPeg I don't follow your logic, and you seem to have blocked me so we'll have to sort this out via comments. I actually am one of those white folks who complains about political correctness run amok and affirmative action and reverse racism, so why should I have disdain for those people? If you'd unblock me you could send me a message explaining what you mean exactly. Nobody has ever articulately explained to me how the Chief was inherently racist, so please send me a message.
@NopeJPeg I will admit, however, that there are a LOT of ignorant, offensive, and wholly racist people commenting on this video. I hope that you don't think I am one of them.
i hate them all and im no liberal panzy im a real native american and a descenedent of the peopria nation who were a member of the illini confederacy who the cheif is mocking and i despise all of them including chief osceloa and the fact that some of my brothers and sisters let it happen i want to see them all burn especially this one and fsu
These comments just keep getting better and better. They are a much better argument against the Chief (note spelling) than I could ever make. BTW, people don't seem to realize that this film clip is from a 1960s exploitation film about drugs. It is typical of the stereotyping of Native Americans that existed then and that continued in the personage of Chief Illiniwek (may he rest in peace).
You say this was exactly what killed the chief. It wasn't. it was racists like you, and your silly little followers, and your stupid jackass NCAA too. NOTHING, not even your racist intentions, anti-chiefs, will stop the values of the chief from being upheld. Loyalty and tradition will not be stopped because of your crimes. Good intentions is what you claim to be doing, so go to hell. By the way, the asian story, is probably complete FAKE. By the way, idiot, the chief is pure good.
I just now understood what you meant by "the Asian story." I went to hear the woman filmmaker speak after a showing of her film. The first thing she said was, how can you have this offensive imagery at your university? Not fake at all.
Exactly! Chief Osceola runs around throwing a spear while the crowd participates in "The Chop" to a pseudo-Indian chant devised by some band director decades ago. That is a mascot. Chief Illiniwek was a peaceful symbol, not a rallying sign, represented honor, loyalty, and respect. It's sad that people "of color" feel they need to champion a cause that they have put little rational thought to
This is horribly offensive. This is exactly the kind of stereotype that people were accusing the Chief of perpetuating. hloonsn8pgs, you ought to be ASHAMED of yourself. Chief Illiniwek was an honorable, dignified, and loved symbol of the University of Illinois, and you helped kill him.
Maybe you saw the chief as honorable and dignified. But from the outside world, he was seen as just this kind of stereotyping. A visiting film scholar way back in the 1980s came to UI once, an Asian woman, and she was horrified by the symbolism of the Chief that she saw in the library where she was giving a lecture. The Chief was made out of good intentions. But so was the war in Iraq and Mao's Cultural Revolution. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I am probalbly the biggest illini fan in the universe. when they got rid of the chief i was scared the university of illinois would be ruined. i was balling my eyes out during his last dance because i couldnt believe they were getting rid of the chief. Alot of people thought about that happening but noone ever thought it would really happen. hloosn8pgs i cant believe u would make fun of the chief like that.
I am probalbly the biggest illini fan in the universe. when they got rid of the chief i was scared the university of illinois would be ruined. i was balling my eyes out during his last dance because i couldnt believe they were getting rid of the chief. Alot of people thought about that happening but noone ever thought it would really happen. hloosn8pgs i cant believe u would make fun of the chief like that.
I didn't have any disdain toward native Americans until the chief was abolished. Now, I just see them as whiners. I think a lot of people are like that too. Is that what you wanted to have happen? Perhaps we should abolish all native American imagery. Let's just forget they ever existed. Is that what will happen next? If you want to convince myself and others that it is good that the chief is gone, post a video explaining why the chief was so offensive. It would better serve your cause.
snoopster2009 1 year ago
@snoopster2009
Have any disdain for the number of white folks whining about PC run amok or "reverse racism" or affirmative action? Didn't think so. Talk about the biggest babies in the world.
NopeJPeg 11 months ago
@NopeJPeg I don't follow your logic, and you seem to have blocked me so we'll have to sort this out via comments. I actually am one of those white folks who complains about political correctness run amok and affirmative action and reverse racism, so why should I have disdain for those people? If you'd unblock me you could send me a message explaining what you mean exactly. Nobody has ever articulately explained to me how the Chief was inherently racist, so please send me a message.
snoopster2009 10 months ago
@NopeJPeg I will admit, however, that there are a LOT of ignorant, offensive, and wholly racist people commenting on this video. I hope that you don't think I am one of them.
snoopster2009 10 months ago
i hate them all and im no liberal panzy im a real native american and a descenedent of the peopria nation who were a member of the illini confederacy who the cheif is mocking and i despise all of them including chief osceloa and the fact that some of my brothers and sisters let it happen i want to see them all burn especially this one and fsu
lion3p0 2 years ago
These comments just keep getting better and better. They are a much better argument against the Chief (note spelling) than I could ever make. BTW, people don't seem to realize that this film clip is from a 1960s exploitation film about drugs. It is typical of the stereotyping of Native Americans that existed then and that continued in the personage of Chief Illiniwek (may he rest in peace).
hloosn8pgs 3 years ago
You say this was exactly what killed the chief. It wasn't. it was racists like you, and your silly little followers, and your stupid jackass NCAA too. NOTHING, not even your racist intentions, anti-chiefs, will stop the values of the chief from being upheld. Loyalty and tradition will not be stopped because of your crimes. Good intentions is what you claim to be doing, so go to hell. By the way, the asian story, is probably complete FAKE. By the way, idiot, the chief is pure good.
ElectroMewMew13 3 years ago
Thanks for the hilarious pot-kettle-black comment.
hloosn8pgs 3 years ago 2
I just now understood what you meant by "the Asian story." I went to hear the woman filmmaker speak after a showing of her film. The first thing she said was, how can you have this offensive imagery at your university? Not fake at all.
hloosn8pgs 3 years ago
Exactly! Chief Osceola runs around throwing a spear while the crowd participates in "The Chop" to a pseudo-Indian chant devised by some band director decades ago. That is a mascot. Chief Illiniwek was a peaceful symbol, not a rallying sign, represented honor, loyalty, and respect. It's sad that people "of color" feel they need to champion a cause that they have put little rational thought to
lessthanjordan 3 years ago
ok what about floridas mascot jackass! don't tell me that they got permission. because its all the same. plus the Indians help design the cloth.
bagys101 3 years ago
This is horribly offensive. This is exactly the kind of stereotype that people were accusing the Chief of perpetuating. hloonsn8pgs, you ought to be ASHAMED of yourself. Chief Illiniwek was an honorable, dignified, and loved symbol of the University of Illinois, and you helped kill him.
mitrumpetplaya 4 years ago
Maybe you saw the chief as honorable and dignified. But from the outside world, he was seen as just this kind of stereotyping. A visiting film scholar way back in the 1980s came to UI once, an Asian woman, and she was horrified by the symbolism of the Chief that she saw in the library where she was giving a lecture. The Chief was made out of good intentions. But so was the war in Iraq and Mao's Cultural Revolution. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
hloosn8pgs 4 years ago 3
I am probalbly the biggest illini fan in the universe. when they got rid of the chief i was scared the university of illinois would be ruined. i was balling my eyes out during his last dance because i couldnt believe they were getting rid of the chief. Alot of people thought about that happening but noone ever thought it would really happen. hloosn8pgs i cant believe u would make fun of the chief like that.
acinotto13 4 years ago
I am probalbly the biggest illini fan in the universe. when they got rid of the chief i was scared the university of illinois would be ruined. i was balling my eyes out during his last dance because i couldnt believe they were getting rid of the chief. Alot of people thought about that happening but noone ever thought it would really happen. hloosn8pgs i cant believe u would make fun of the chief like that.
acinotto13 4 years ago
Trifle
THEFENDER12 4 years ago