This is sad.Christians protestesting a christian concert.That's basically christians against christians.Music is a tool .Music by itself is neither good or evil.Even if Satan used rock music first, it doesn't doesn't mean all rock music is evil.You cannot judge christian music based on secular music.In fact as christians we're not supposed to judge anyway.Although we do need to recognize what it is.
@FreedomThroughChrist How did satan use rock music first? I am not arguing, just curious as I have searched the bible for that and have not found it. Are you taking liberties with the bible?
@larsjake The Bible predates rock music so naturally you're not going to find anything for or against any certain style of music.Most secular rock music are about rebellion.Some rock bands actually admit to being Satan worshippers.Semi-charmed life by Third Eye Blind mentions snorting cocaine.It's the message of the song that determines whether it's from Satan or not.Listen closely to the lyrics.A lot of people don't pay attention to what they are listening to.
@FreedomThroughChrist It actually mentions snorting crystal meth. My point is, you are taking liberties with the bible. Where in the bible does it say for instance, not to take mind altering substances. Mind you, Chocolate, Caffeine, alchohol and nicotine are mind altering substances. As far as mind altering substances go, are you familiar with the acacia three used in the middle east by many prominent figures in the bible? It metabolizes to DMT in humans. Also..wine.
@FreedomThroughChrist However, If you break your arm and are given for instance Hydrocodone for the pain, according to your statement that is evil? Even though Hydrocodone is an opium derivative, specifically from thebaine? By the way, opium is known as "Gods own medicine". God created it as he did everything on earth. Your logic gives "satan" as much power as God. Therefore satan is as powerful and can create just like god. I know you don't think like that.
@FreedomThroughChrist And witchcraft does not mean the use or administration of drugs orgies etc... That is false. I would like you to research a bible written before 1850 to find the verses on how to treat slaves, women and how to sell your daughters. I am not mocking or defaming your faith. But music is just that. Music. Classical music was considered of the devil in the 17th and 18th centuries. And most of the drugs that are illegal today were not only legal but
@FreedomThroughChrist Encouraged by the church and society. Follow Christ. Not society, sir. You are spending way to much time trying to find reasons for satan, and not enough time asking yourself what would Christ do. Again, judging and hating is not something christ condoned. He never would have sat here online finding reasons to belittle others. And the bible has been edited to the point of lunacy. The only way to read it is to learn Greek or Aramiec
@FreedomThroughChrist I know it is fun to find ways to construe the world as wicked, but you are turning humanity into football teams. If God is all powerful why would he allow satan to be equal? Satan cannot create, only influence. And Hate is a strong influence. Again, follow christ, not satan.
@FreedomThroughChrist Right, but you are looking in the NIV and KJV.. And also, that does not directly relate to anything other than alchohol. And the greek word for drugs is incorrect. I have a bible from 1735 that has no such statement. My point is, that wine, opium and acacia were used by men frequently during the time of christ and before. These were men of the bible. I am not condoning crystal meth at all, I am in the medical field, it is a horrible plague on society.
@larsjake That's not the Greek word for drugs.That's the Greek word for witchcraft, it's related to the word pharmacy.I forgot exactly how.And what's the difference between being drunk and being high? Either way, you don't have control over your actions.People who use drugs illegal or not feel a void in their lives that only God can fill.Stress is a very common excuse for drinking and/or using drugs.
@FreedomThroughChrist Apothecary is the greek word for pharmacy. And being high and drunk are names in this language. In Norwegian drunk is Rusa, and high is gefreden. What do those words mean? Are you just against drugs and alchohol? If so say it. DO not use a religion to justify your views. You speak of satan, well maybe satan is whispering in your ears. Did Jesus go to hell for drinking wine?
@FreedomThroughChrist And also, God created everything on earth. And we use them for our benefit, nowhere in the actual bible does it say do not use gods creations for ourselves. Satan cannot create. Basta. He can only influence. If you believe otherwise you need to question your faith that satan can create as god can.
@FreedomThroughChrist ANd the 3rd eye blind song( i really don't like them at all....or rock for that matter) The refrain is " I want something else". The song is about getting OFF of drugs. Do not take things at face value. If I were to do that with Christ, then I would be tempted to wonder how he condoned burning witches and therefore taking human life.
@FreedomThroughChrist Your example reminds me of the hysteria around marylin manson a few years ago, how the band was promoting violence. Yet if one listened to the lyrics they were actually condemning violence. I think you are in a similar situation with the third eye blind song. The only overt lyrics I can think of for violence and drugs are in rap, but not all of that is correct. I think you need to follow your own advice and actually pay attention to the lyrics.
@FreedomThroughChrist Also, I am really not arguing with you, just asking that you be honest and not try to badmouth something you have not fully researched. It makes me sad christians spend more time on trying to find satanists to blame for stuff than actually following the teachings of Christ.
@FreedomThroughChrist Hello? Was that too much for you? Sorry, I was just asking you to be accountable for your statement. I apologize if that was too much to ask.
@larsjake Sorry it took so long.I wasn't trying to bad mouth secular rock bands.That would be judging them.I will follow my own advice.I'm going to listen to Semi-charmed life again to double check the message.However some secular bands have good songs with positive messages and bad songs with negative messages.We need to be aware of Satan's trick.
These so called "Christian" protesters are so delusional. Were the sent by the westboro baptist church? I love Kutless. Saw them at Heavenfest in Longmont CO last year. Not only do they praise Jesus in their music and lyrics, but they are some of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. I really feel sorry for those 2 protesters. Oh well I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions and views.
These guys are on a "witch hunt"! Sad to say the love of Christ has been shoved aside. These misguided people come and go. I saw the same thing at Stryper concerts in the 80s. These people look at appearances. Christ said to look at the heart and the fruit! Check out Petra's lyrics to the song "With Hunt"! Sums it all up!
These two remind me of the blind leading the blind...they've stumbled into a pit!
I understand where the protestors are coming from cause i was raised to believe rock is evil but then i learned how to play guitar and found out a A minor is used in all kind of songs so if there playing a church hyme in a minor is it wrong.It is the words that are important.If these protestors loved the lord they would embrace these young people with love not anger.God help show us all love.
There was this lone old lady holding a sign outside of the Coheed & Cambria concert last year, and my dad was telling me about how there was a bunch outside of the Iron Maiden concert back in his day. :P Lmfaaooo.
People burning in hell is sad to me. People mocking others because they are trying to save them because they care is really sad to me. You guys are pretty pathetic
@RickRdgrs first of all, the psychology behind their actions isn't so much to save people as it is to make themselves feel more righteous and to get attention. second, even if they did have good intentions, their actions are most definitely driving people away. if you've ever experienced people like this, you know that arguing does no good. it actually plays into their hands by giving more attention. it's the same thing that the KKK does when they protest. the only effective tactic is ridicule
@neekoriss Oh dang, not going to deal with your ignorance. When I do it's like talking to a retarded answering machine. Listen, Christians and Atheists have to live on this rock together. There are bad Christians that judge when they should be loving, I understand that. There are Atheists that don't shut the fuck up. You people are mouthing back and forth. I'm a christian, I'm not perfect. Shut the fuck up please, I just don't care anymore. burn in hell if you want.
@RickRdgrs Don'y fool yourself. If you honestly believe these protesters are in for it in Jesus, you truly have issues. Whether that be spiritually or mentally. They are clearly protesting in an affect of self-righteousness. Read the entire chapter of Luke 18. the parallels are there. to no excuse these men have very ill intentions and a competent understanding of the word proves this.
@RickRdgrs Ahhh, the christian threat. " If you don't believe what I believe you will burn in hell". And you wonder why people laugh at christians. Why does the pope ride in a bullet proof car?
God mockers who don't know how someone is saved... odd misdirection to evil of keys... hmm.
You are NOT saved by a "sinner's prayer". You are saved when you seek out Jesus, become a son of God, not a name-only nominal Christian, but a true friend of God. Jesus will say to some, "I never knew you." Salvation causes a change of heart. Walk in the spirit, and you will not sin. If you love me, you will obey my commands. Submit to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
That's really sad. Yes these guys are using rock, but almost all music is corrupted. Look at Lady Gaga in the pop world.
I listen to Christian rock because I know that they are singing for the glory of God, bands like Flyleaf, skillet, pillar, the letter black, fireflight, Jeremy camp, disciple and more. It's about the lyrics, what they sing, who they sing it too and if they have a relationship with Christ.
klueless Sings superman even on his best day thi fictional character coildnt carry the sins of the world --Ecclesiastes 7:5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
@BushidoRei That's your opinion which I am sure you so ignorant you can back up with scripture from the bible. Oh they have a drum set and guitars. They look different from my group of people so therefore they are of Satan. Is that what you say?
People really are this way. Its what they have been taught all their life and they sit in a traditional church and sing hymns, and watch the same grey hair come in and go out every week. Yet Church's that have broken that mold, and are doing what it takes to bring in the unsaved are doing it right. Sometimes you have to step out of your comfort zone to grab a falling man. And people like this will never convince me that i'm doing wrong.
I don't understand why they were protesting, in the bible it says make a joyful noise will all your heart. Don't they read the bible? It doesn't have to be a specific sound just the fact that you are praising God
They are protesting the guy's that sing strong tower? They play that on the local christian station alot! lol What denomination are these dudes. I think this video is fake! After all this isn't the 50's.
One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
As this scripture talks of days of the week and food, I whole heartedly believe it applies to music as well.
Psalm 96 1 Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. 2 Sing to the LORD, praise his name; proclaim his salvation day after day.
What kind of song is acceptable? It seems that David is talking about the content of the song, not the tune. is the music you praise God with the same that David wrote and played? David is saying to sing a new song to praise the Lord. We can praise the Lord in a new way...even with Rock and Roll!
@JustPlaneCrazy2010 If rock and roll is the devils, what does that say about Youtube?There is a lot of pretty terrrible stuff on here, maybe Bibledefender should think about getting off youtube bc its the devils too
lmao wow. It's pretty sad when Christians get others to become Christians by threatening that they will burn in hell if they don't. See, I'm not at all against Christianity. My parents are Christians, honestly I don't know what I am but I think it's degrading when Christians do things like this. Like really, do you want people to just come to God out of fear? Or do you want people to come to God because he loves you and he's your creator?
Lol, is this for real lol. Those two protesters kind of reminds me of the pharisees Jesus rebuked, actually in a way it's kind of funny and ironic at the same time.
Lol, is this for real lol. Those two protesters kind of reminds me of the pharisees Jesus rebuked, actually in a way it's kind of funny and ironic at the same time.
Lol, is this for real lol. Those two protesters kind of reminds me of the pharisees Jesus rebuked, actually in a way it's kind of funny and ironic at the same time.
I love these guys. Such ignorance. It's all in the heart, not the tempo, not the style. It doesn't matter if you use electric guitars and drums, or pianos, organs and harps. These people need to shut up and read the Bible and actually apply it to their lives and notice one thing GOD DOESN'T CARE IF YOU USE ROCK MUSIC OR WORSHIP MUSIC OR HYMNS. HE ONLY CARES IF YOU TRULY LOVE HIM.
ustedes estan completamente locos al pensar que les bamos a creer con esas estupideses que la musica de kutless es el diablo todos ustedes estan emfermos mejor pongasen a orar que pronto les toca a ustedes se iran directos al infierno la musica de kutless es maravillosa y hermosa mejor escuchalo y alimentate con su musica que se me hace que es lo ustedes nesecitan 'I love kutless you music is the more beautifull'
My church put on a concert last year with Our Hearts Hero. And these guys showed up for that too. They actually walk around the venue too. It was the most insulting thing ever. They are from Ripley WV, not all west virginias are like this I promise. However we do apparently have our nut cases.
However, there are also plenty of openly evil messages. One rock author reports: "I have chosen the hard rock group ACDC, because their name is an abbreviation for 'Antichrist, death to Christ', and this group sings about the glory of 'Hells Bells'".
1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. these so called godly bands here are some of thier influences tell me if you think there good --U2, Bryan Adams, Oasis, Led Zeppelin, Our Lady Peace, The Who, D.C. Talk, Johnny Cash, Jason Faulkner, The Doors, Coldplay, Sevendust, AC/DC, The Beatles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Creedence Clearwater Revival
BibleDHey, what you talkin' 'bout the Who for? They're pretty good and "Don't Get Fooled Again" is a great tea party anthem! Bands like Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and AC/DC made rock evil, but only to them, bands like Skillet and TFK make rock a Christian thing and reach out to the lost with it, and also worship as in Alien Youth, and other albums before Collide. Casting Crowns isn't evil, right? They're rock. It's all in the heart. Isn't U2 Christian? The members? Wiki leads me to believe so.
@Songwriter4God I like to use the illustration about a bottle of Jack Daniels Whiskey. The bottle of whiskey is also composed of two parts. The Devils brew on the inside and the words on the outside. Now if I take and change the label. And put Gods words on it. Say John 3:16 in big bold letters. And say I put the words Jesus saves on it. And say I change the name to Jesus Heavenly Drink.
@Songwriter4God No its still poison inside. The words on the outside are only one component. The words do not change the liquid component on the inside.
It is the same with music. I can take the Devils rock and roll music and put Gods words to it, but that does not change the character of the music side of it.
@Bibledefender4u Wow. Did you know that hymns were the form of music back when they were written? What about that? The worlds music, the same type. What now? Same for psalms. It's all in the heart. And, music means nothing, it can't make you do anything but bob your head in time. Lyrics mean everything. I'll listen to a good guitar riff to a Satanic song any day, but the lyrics? No way. We all share the same chords and 12 notes.
Umm...Who created music? To the best of my knowledge only God has the power to create, Satan can only corrupt. So just what is the 'liquid component" inside of rock music? Is it the notes? If so, then all music is corrupt and evil...so that means the Psalms (songs, i.e. music) written by David are evil. Is it the way in which the notes are arranged? Where in the Bible does it say how music is to be arranged to worship God? The Bible talks about using all instruments to worship
@JustPlaneCrazy2010 yup your just plain crazy Rock and roll means fornification song songs from the Bible Psalms 137:3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. Superman couldnt save us even if he was real one of the songs they sing among others -love the freaky hair dos-looks like the world -huh Jesus said if you love the world the love of the father is not in you. that explains it
@Bibledefender4u "Rock and roll means fornification"??? Where do you get that from? Just because Rock (and many other forms of music) has been used in a worldly fashion does not in and of itself make it evil. Evil things have been done by corrupting scripture...does this make scripture evil? Can you give me a clear scripture in the Bible that condemns Rock and Roll or any other type of music?
@JustPlaneCrazy2010 ,1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
the world shouldnt like this music but the world does they say there is no differnece
@Bibledefender4u The world DOESN'T like this music...when is the last time you saw Kutless or Skillet or DC Talk on the billboard top 40? You haven't. Why is that? According to you, they should be right at the top of the charts, but they are not. It's not the music, it's the message. If you don't like the music, that is fine. But if a christian rock group can reach out to the youth of this world and bring them into a relationship with Jesus Christ, how is that wrong? I've seen it happen...
HAHA! You guys were HALARIOUS! I messed with them a little myself and our group had an extra ticket so I tried to bring one of them in, but they wouldn't come! They seriously must have NO LIFE to protest a christian concert!
nice job! they dont know what they're missing in good music...btw...are they really Christian..or what? cuz really if they're gonna protest against a Christian concert...WOW..
HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! "did u have to pay for parking? cuz id ask for my money back"
soo God cant use something that can be used for evil and use it for his glory? ughh i cant stand ppl that condemn and judge ppl like that...especially Christian rock bands who KNOW how to rock for Christ!
How is their music deceiving? Every single song that I know of Kutless worships God, other than The Feeling. And even in The Feeling it says that the songs they are singing have a deeper meaning. Why does it matter how God is worshipped. Different people have ways of showing God their love for him. Also what really annoys me are the people that stand out there and tell everybody they're going to hell. Check out my video of The Feeling from Kutless in concert at Tsunami SYC 2008 on my profile.
who those 2 think they are to judge people saying "you will burn in hell"?? Jesus would never say a thing like that... this 2 should be concerned about those people who doesn´t have Jesus in their hearts, but how can this 2 say about Jesus if their behaviour is from a person who don´t have Jesus?? this is sad... let´s pray for them
Wow, I thought that the "Christian ROCK music" controversy was ancient history, like in the 70's? The ironic thing, is the whole goal of the tour is evangelistic. I wonder what kind of music they think is appropriate? So funny!
that was awesome! people like that dont know what they are tlaking about. they have no biblical evidence that rock and roll is evil. i looked and all i can find is evidence for rock and roll. but that was funny.
wow I am in stitches laughing.... those 2 wack jobs are out of their minds!!! Kudos to you for standing up to them and messing with them. I am still laughing.
those protesters are so ridiculous! Kutless's music is awesome AND uplifting!They have so many songs that are so amazingly spiritual like Sea of faces,Smile,Promise of a lifetime,Take me in,Strong tower,Incomplete just to name a few
it's really sad that the devil has zealots like these 2 wrapped around his finger and they don't even know it....if one brings another one to god, really, where is the evil in that?
Why West Virginia?! Why? I love Kutless and I'm from West Virginia
alex18007 3 weeks ago
Most christian seem to have a little baptists in them.
TheJo4an 1 month ago
For the record, christian rock is a way to make money. Nothing else. Half of their songs are rips from other songs just set up differently.
larsjake 2 months ago
This is sad.Christians protestesting a christian concert.That's basically christians against christians.Music is a tool .Music by itself is neither good or evil.Even if Satan used rock music first, it doesn't doesn't mean all rock music is evil.You cannot judge christian music based on secular music.In fact as christians we're not supposed to judge anyway.Although we do need to recognize what it is.
FreedomThroughChrist 4 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist How did satan use rock music first? I am not arguing, just curious as I have searched the bible for that and have not found it. Are you taking liberties with the bible?
larsjake 2 months ago
@larsjake The Bible predates rock music so naturally you're not going to find anything for or against any certain style of music.Most secular rock music are about rebellion.Some rock bands actually admit to being Satan worshippers.Semi-charmed life by Third Eye Blind mentions snorting cocaine.It's the message of the song that determines whether it's from Satan or not.Listen closely to the lyrics.A lot of people don't pay attention to what they are listening to.
FreedomThroughChrist 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist It actually mentions snorting crystal meth. My point is, you are taking liberties with the bible. Where in the bible does it say for instance, not to take mind altering substances. Mind you, Chocolate, Caffeine, alchohol and nicotine are mind altering substances. As far as mind altering substances go, are you familiar with the acacia three used in the middle east by many prominent figures in the bible? It metabolizes to DMT in humans. Also..wine.
larsjake 2 months ago
@larsjake Galatians chapter 5 the Greek word for witchcraft has more than one meaning.One of the meanings is to use or administer drugs.
FreedomThroughChrist 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist However, If you break your arm and are given for instance Hydrocodone for the pain, according to your statement that is evil? Even though Hydrocodone is an opium derivative, specifically from thebaine? By the way, opium is known as "Gods own medicine". God created it as he did everything on earth. Your logic gives "satan" as much power as God. Therefore satan is as powerful and can create just like god. I know you don't think like that.
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist And witchcraft does not mean the use or administration of drugs orgies etc... That is false. I would like you to research a bible written before 1850 to find the verses on how to treat slaves, women and how to sell your daughters. I am not mocking or defaming your faith. But music is just that. Music. Classical music was considered of the devil in the 17th and 18th centuries. And most of the drugs that are illegal today were not only legal but
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist Encouraged by the church and society. Follow Christ. Not society, sir. You are spending way to much time trying to find reasons for satan, and not enough time asking yourself what would Christ do. Again, judging and hating is not something christ condoned. He never would have sat here online finding reasons to belittle others. And the bible has been edited to the point of lunacy. The only way to read it is to learn Greek or Aramiec
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist I know it is fun to find ways to construe the world as wicked, but you are turning humanity into football teams. If God is all powerful why would he allow satan to be equal? Satan cannot create, only influence. And Hate is a strong influence. Again, follow christ, not satan.
larsjake 2 months ago
@larsjake Strong's G5331 - pharmakeia
1) the use or the administering of drugs
2) poisoning
3) sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
4) metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry
FreedomThroughChrist 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist Right, but you are looking in the NIV and KJV.. And also, that does not directly relate to anything other than alchohol. And the greek word for drugs is incorrect. I have a bible from 1735 that has no such statement. My point is, that wine, opium and acacia were used by men frequently during the time of christ and before. These were men of the bible. I am not condoning crystal meth at all, I am in the medical field, it is a horrible plague on society.
larsjake 2 months ago
@larsjake That's not the Greek word for drugs.That's the Greek word for witchcraft, it's related to the word pharmacy.I forgot exactly how.And what's the difference between being drunk and being high? Either way, you don't have control over your actions.People who use drugs illegal or not feel a void in their lives that only God can fill.Stress is a very common excuse for drinking and/or using drugs.
FreedomThroughChrist 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist Apothecary is the greek word for pharmacy. And being high and drunk are names in this language. In Norwegian drunk is Rusa, and high is gefreden. What do those words mean? Are you just against drugs and alchohol? If so say it. DO not use a religion to justify your views. You speak of satan, well maybe satan is whispering in your ears. Did Jesus go to hell for drinking wine?
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist And also, God created everything on earth. And we use them for our benefit, nowhere in the actual bible does it say do not use gods creations for ourselves. Satan cannot create. Basta. He can only influence. If you believe otherwise you need to question your faith that satan can create as god can.
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist ANd the 3rd eye blind song( i really don't like them at all....or rock for that matter) The refrain is " I want something else". The song is about getting OFF of drugs. Do not take things at face value. If I were to do that with Christ, then I would be tempted to wonder how he condoned burning witches and therefore taking human life.
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist Your example reminds me of the hysteria around marylin manson a few years ago, how the band was promoting violence. Yet if one listened to the lyrics they were actually condemning violence. I think you are in a similar situation with the third eye blind song. The only overt lyrics I can think of for violence and drugs are in rap, but not all of that is correct. I think you need to follow your own advice and actually pay attention to the lyrics.
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist That is ok, take your time. There is nothing in the bible about the subject, but continue to look if you need to.
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist Also, I am really not arguing with you, just asking that you be honest and not try to badmouth something you have not fully researched. It makes me sad christians spend more time on trying to find satanists to blame for stuff than actually following the teachings of Christ.
larsjake 2 months ago
@FreedomThroughChrist Hello? Was that too much for you? Sorry, I was just asking you to be accountable for your statement. I apologize if that was too much to ask.
larsjake 2 months ago
@larsjake Sorry it took so long.I wasn't trying to bad mouth secular rock bands.That would be judging them.I will follow my own advice.I'm going to listen to Semi-charmed life again to double check the message.However some secular bands have good songs with positive messages and bad songs with negative messages.We need to be aware of Satan's trick.
FreedomThroughChrist 2 months ago
You know making fun of them isn't something that Jesus would do
dannoroy 5 months ago
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dannoroy 5 months ago
These so called "Christian" protesters are so delusional. Were the sent by the westboro baptist church? I love Kutless. Saw them at Heavenfest in Longmont CO last year. Not only do they praise Jesus in their music and lyrics, but they are some of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. I really feel sorry for those 2 protesters. Oh well I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions and views.
cosmokid007 6 months ago
they were prolly just mad bc they couldnt get tickets to tht epic concert xD
BigHairySexyBeast 6 months ago
D minor is the most demonic. Get it? D minor, De-monic?
EagleDesertHawks 7 months ago
You guys are amazing. Lol.
nightshade661 9 months ago
These guys are on a "witch hunt"! Sad to say the love of Christ has been shoved aside. These misguided people come and go. I saw the same thing at Stryper concerts in the 80s. These people look at appearances. Christ said to look at the heart and the fruit! Check out Petra's lyrics to the song "With Hunt"! Sums it all up!
These two remind me of the blind leading the blind...they've stumbled into a pit!
pointyguitarz 10 months ago
I understand where the protestors are coming from cause i was raised to believe rock is evil but then i learned how to play guitar and found out a A minor is used in all kind of songs so if there playing a church hyme in a minor is it wrong.It is the words that are important.If these protestors loved the lord they would embrace these young people with love not anger.God help show us all love.
MrFisherofmen238 11 months ago
There was this lone old lady holding a sign outside of the Coheed & Cambria concert last year, and my dad was telling me about how there was a bunch outside of the Iron Maiden concert back in his day. :P Lmfaaooo.
FullMetalSatomi 11 months ago
People burning in hell is sad to me. People mocking others because they are trying to save them because they care is really sad to me. You guys are pretty pathetic
RickRdgrs 11 months ago
@RickRdgrs first of all, the psychology behind their actions isn't so much to save people as it is to make themselves feel more righteous and to get attention. second, even if they did have good intentions, their actions are most definitely driving people away. if you've ever experienced people like this, you know that arguing does no good. it actually plays into their hands by giving more attention. it's the same thing that the KKK does when they protest. the only effective tactic is ridicule
neekoriss 10 months ago 6
@neekoriss Oh dang, not going to deal with your ignorance. When I do it's like talking to a retarded answering machine. Listen, Christians and Atheists have to live on this rock together. There are bad Christians that judge when they should be loving, I understand that. There are Atheists that don't shut the fuck up. You people are mouthing back and forth. I'm a christian, I'm not perfect. Shut the fuck up please, I just don't care anymore. burn in hell if you want.
RickRdgrs 7 months ago 2
Whom are they trying to save when they call Christian rock a deception of Satan?
Rawk4Life 8 months ago
@RickRdgrs Don'y fool yourself. If you honestly believe these protesters are in for it in Jesus, you truly have issues. Whether that be spiritually or mentally. They are clearly protesting in an affect of self-righteousness. Read the entire chapter of Luke 18. the parallels are there. to no excuse these men have very ill intentions and a competent understanding of the word proves this.
terrec 7 months ago
@RickRdgrs Ahhh, the christian threat. " If you don't believe what I believe you will burn in hell". And you wonder why people laugh at christians. Why does the pope ride in a bullet proof car?
larsjake 2 months ago
God mockers who don't know how someone is saved... odd misdirection to evil of keys... hmm.
You are NOT saved by a "sinner's prayer". You are saved when you seek out Jesus, become a son of God, not a name-only nominal Christian, but a true friend of God. Jesus will say to some, "I never knew you." Salvation causes a change of heart. Walk in the spirit, and you will not sin. If you love me, you will obey my commands. Submit to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
KnowJesusKnowPeace 11 months ago
That's really sad. Yes these guys are using rock, but almost all music is corrupted. Look at Lady Gaga in the pop world.
I listen to Christian rock because I know that they are singing for the glory of God, bands like Flyleaf, skillet, pillar, the letter black, fireflight, Jeremy camp, disciple and more. It's about the lyrics, what they sing, who they sing it too and if they have a relationship with Christ.
Mikeatike 1 year ago 2
just so everyone knows, Bibledefender4u is actually one of these two protesters
neekoriss 1 year ago 2
klueless Sings superman even on his best day thi fictional character coildnt carry the sins of the world --Ecclesiastes 7:5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Bibledefender4u 1 year ago
I agree with the protesters, Christian rock IS EVIL! Christians should stay away from it. It's not for them! ;)
BushidoRei 1 year ago
@BushidoRei That's your opinion which I am sure you so ignorant you can back up with scripture from the bible. Oh they have a drum set and guitars. They look different from my group of people so therefore they are of Satan. Is that what you say?
21April853BC 11 months ago
@21April853BC Take note of the ";)" at the end.
BushidoRei 11 months ago
People really are this way. Its what they have been taught all their life and they sit in a traditional church and sing hymns, and watch the same grey hair come in and go out every week. Yet Church's that have broken that mold, and are doing what it takes to bring in the unsaved are doing it right. Sometimes you have to step out of your comfort zone to grab a falling man. And people like this will never convince me that i'm doing wrong.
bigtorquehemi 1 year ago 2
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I protest christian rock as well. Not because it's evil, but because it sucks.
timbulb 1 year ago
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timbulb 1 year ago
The one person that dislike this video must have been one of the protesters.
guitarist3211 1 year ago 6
Im really looking forward drumming and rockin together with Kutless in heaven in the presence of God to glorify him forever =)!!
JouTaike 1 year ago
I don't understand why they were protesting, in the bible it says make a joyful noise will all your heart. Don't they read the bible? It doesn't have to be a specific sound just the fact that you are praising God
ashlyn57 1 year ago 2
these are the kinds of people who give real christians a bad name
jfrasher77 1 year ago
I think its funny the Bibledefender4u put Johnny Cash and ACDC together and said they are both evil haha
nobsjr1 1 year ago
They are protesting the guy's that sing strong tower? They play that on the local christian station alot! lol What denomination are these dudes. I think this video is fake! After all this isn't the 50's.
disgustedoffended 1 year ago
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Romans 14:2-4
One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
Romans 14:5-6
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.
As this scripture talks of days of the week and food, I whole heartedly believe it applies to music as well.
JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
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JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
They just dont get it
1 Chronicles 16:9 Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him, talk ye of all his wondrous works.
Psalms 105:2 Sing unto him, sing psalms unto him: talk ye of all his wondrous works.
Ephesians 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; see ya next time
Bibledefender4u 1 year ago
@Bibledefender4u
Psalm 96 1 Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. 2 Sing to the LORD, praise his name; proclaim his salvation day after day.
What kind of song is acceptable? It seems that David is talking about the content of the song, not the tune. is the music you praise God with the same that David wrote and played? David is saying to sing a new song to praise the Lord. We can praise the Lord in a new way...even with Rock and Roll!
JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
@JustPlaneCrazy2010 If rock and roll is the devils, what does that say about Youtube?There is a lot of pretty terrrible stuff on here, maybe Bibledefender should think about getting off youtube bc its the devils too
nobsjr1 1 year ago
lmao wow. It's pretty sad when Christians get others to become Christians by threatening that they will burn in hell if they don't. See, I'm not at all against Christianity. My parents are Christians, honestly I don't know what I am but I think it's degrading when Christians do things like this. Like really, do you want people to just come to God out of fear? Or do you want people to come to God because he loves you and he's your creator?
iBarfRainbows 1 year ago
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Lol, is this for real lol. Those two protesters kind of reminds me of the pharisees Jesus rebuked, actually in a way it's kind of funny and ironic at the same time.
demondagger19 1 year ago
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Lol, is this for real lol. Those two protesters kind of reminds me of the pharisees Jesus rebuked, actually in a way it's kind of funny and ironic at the same time.
demondagger19 1 year ago
Lol, is this for real lol. Those two protesters kind of reminds me of the pharisees Jesus rebuked, actually in a way it's kind of funny and ironic at the same time.
demondagger19 1 year ago
Oh, yeah, the guy in the vest wit the blond hair looks like James Mead. XD
Songwriter4God 1 year ago
I love these guys. Such ignorance. It's all in the heart, not the tempo, not the style. It doesn't matter if you use electric guitars and drums, or pianos, organs and harps. These people need to shut up and read the Bible and actually apply it to their lives and notice one thing GOD DOESN'T CARE IF YOU USE ROCK MUSIC OR WORSHIP MUSIC OR HYMNS. HE ONLY CARES IF YOU TRULY LOVE HIM.
Songwriter4God 1 year ago
ustedes estan completamente locos al pensar que les bamos a creer con esas estupideses que la musica de kutless es el diablo todos ustedes estan emfermos mejor pongasen a orar que pronto les toca a ustedes se iran directos al infierno la musica de kutless es maravillosa y hermosa mejor escuchalo y alimentate con su musica que se me hace que es lo ustedes nesecitan 'I love kutless you music is the more beautifull'
mfrico 1 year ago
My church put on a concert last year with Our Hearts Hero. And these guys showed up for that too. They actually walk around the venue too. It was the most insulting thing ever. They are from Ripley WV, not all west virginias are like this I promise. However we do apparently have our nut cases.
kjm031981 2 years ago
This is not assalt its art!
Jaket2000 2 years ago
However, there are also plenty of openly evil messages. One rock author reports: "I have chosen the hard rock group ACDC, because their name is an abbreviation for 'Antichrist, death to Christ', and this group sings about the glory of 'Hells Bells'".
Bibledefender4u 2 years ago
1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. these so called godly bands here are some of thier influences tell me if you think there good --U2, Bryan Adams, Oasis, Led Zeppelin, Our Lady Peace, The Who, D.C. Talk, Johnny Cash, Jason Faulkner, The Doors, Coldplay, Sevendust, AC/DC, The Beatles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Creedence Clearwater Revival
Bibledefender4u 2 years ago
BibleDHey, what you talkin' 'bout the Who for? They're pretty good and "Don't Get Fooled Again" is a great tea party anthem! Bands like Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, and AC/DC made rock evil, but only to them, bands like Skillet and TFK make rock a Christian thing and reach out to the lost with it, and also worship as in Alien Youth, and other albums before Collide. Casting Crowns isn't evil, right? They're rock. It's all in the heart. Isn't U2 Christian? The members? Wiki leads me to believe so.
Songwriter4God 1 year ago
@Songwriter4God I like to use the illustration about a bottle of Jack Daniels Whiskey. The bottle of whiskey is also composed of two parts. The Devils brew on the inside and the words on the outside. Now if I take and change the label. And put Gods words on it. Say John 3:16 in big bold letters. And say I put the words Jesus saves on it. And say I change the name to Jesus Heavenly Drink.
Is it now ok to drink it?
Bibledefender4u 1 year ago
@Songwriter4God No its still poison inside. The words on the outside are only one component. The words do not change the liquid component on the inside.
It is the same with music. I can take the Devils rock and roll music and put Gods words to it, but that does not change the character of the music side of it.
Bibledefender4u 1 year ago
@Bibledefender4u Wow. Did you know that hymns were the form of music back when they were written? What about that? The worlds music, the same type. What now? Same for psalms. It's all in the heart. And, music means nothing, it can't make you do anything but bob your head in time. Lyrics mean everything. I'll listen to a good guitar riff to a Satanic song any day, but the lyrics? No way. We all share the same chords and 12 notes.
Songwriter4God 1 year ago
@Bibledefender4u
Umm...Who created music? To the best of my knowledge only God has the power to create, Satan can only corrupt. So just what is the 'liquid component" inside of rock music? Is it the notes? If so, then all music is corrupt and evil...so that means the Psalms (songs, i.e. music) written by David are evil. Is it the way in which the notes are arranged? Where in the Bible does it say how music is to be arranged to worship God? The Bible talks about using all instruments to worship
JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
@JustPlaneCrazy2010 yup your just plain crazy Rock and roll means fornification song songs from the Bible Psalms 137:3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us required of us mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion. Superman couldnt save us even if he was real one of the songs they sing among others -love the freaky hair dos-looks like the world -huh Jesus said if you love the world the love of the father is not in you. that explains it
Bibledefender4u 1 year ago
@Bibledefender4u "Rock and roll means fornification"??? Where do you get that from? Just because Rock (and many other forms of music) has been used in a worldly fashion does not in and of itself make it evil. Evil things have been done by corrupting scripture...does this make scripture evil? Can you give me a clear scripture in the Bible that condemns Rock and Roll or any other type of music?
Read Romans 14: 1-8
JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
@JustPlaneCrazy2010 ,1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
the world shouldnt like this music but the world does they say there is no differnece
Bibledefender4u 1 year ago
@Bibledefender4u The world DOESN'T like this music...when is the last time you saw Kutless or Skillet or DC Talk on the billboard top 40? You haven't. Why is that? According to you, they should be right at the top of the charts, but they are not. It's not the music, it's the message. If you don't like the music, that is fine. But if a christian rock group can reach out to the youth of this world and bring them into a relationship with Jesus Christ, how is that wrong? I've seen it happen...
JustPlaneCrazy2010 1 year ago
itd be funny if these guys showed up at the kutless and tobymac concert this saturday in Grand Forks...we'll see.
thatguitarperson09 2 years ago
oh man to frig'n hilarious!!!
guitargurl390 2 years ago
closed minded idiots. they're blinded by their religion. HAHAHAHAHA.
great vid guys.
TCELL24 2 years ago 2
@TCELL24 Well, for them it's a religion, a set of rules involving "Don't listen to rock." For US it's a relationship with the Lord Jesus.
Songwriter4God 1 year ago
HAHA! You guys were HALARIOUS! I messed with them a little myself and our group had an extra ticket so I tried to bring one of them in, but they wouldn't come! They seriously must have NO LIFE to protest a christian concert!
SaraLen88 2 years ago
anyone know where I can find their video...I so want to see!! this video I have shown to everyone and they all thought these guys are loopy as well..
thatguitarperson09 2 years ago
man i so want to meet these guys...haha
nice job! they dont know what they're missing in good music...btw...are they really Christian..or what? cuz really if they're gonna protest against a Christian concert...WOW..
thatguitarperson09 2 years ago
these guys are from Ohio, they protested a Christian Music festival in Barboursville, OH once. This is what they do in their spare time.
Chizadwiklicious 2 years ago
Haha, Nick. "Everyone's gonna burn if you leave!"
Teen4thelight 2 years ago
DAMN!!! they look like a gay couple
jealous of God's Music
Bunch of liars
we really know the truth
the truth set us free thru his music ...
lionshield2007 2 years ago
christians shouldn't cuss XP
delmis123 2 years ago
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i would protest a kutless show - everyone knows christian rock is a joke
WhoIsTadhg 2 years ago
HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! "did u have to pay for parking? cuz id ask for my money back"
soo God cant use something that can be used for evil and use it for his glory? ughh i cant stand ppl that condemn and judge ppl like that...especially Christian rock bands who KNOW how to rock for Christ!
christianrocker7 2 years ago
i don't think that is a good way to speak about god. you know?
victormania2008 2 years ago
Christians rock
supermarine1spitfire 2 years ago
haha i didn't really get what point those two were trying to make.
i just don't see the connection between the devil and christian rock. unles thats what the devil is listening to.
wishecrou 2 years ago
if you like Kutless, then check out My heart to fear on myspace. they are on myspace at myheart2fear
kevinpoolpa 3 years ago
i think that kutless is awesome and they changed my life they are for real
Dbzrap788 3 years ago
How is their music deceiving? Every single song that I know of Kutless worships God, other than The Feeling. And even in The Feeling it says that the songs they are singing have a deeper meaning. Why does it matter how God is worshipped. Different people have ways of showing God their love for him. Also what really annoys me are the people that stand out there and tell everybody they're going to hell. Check out my video of The Feeling from Kutless in concert at Tsunami SYC 2008 on my profile.
ILXproductions 3 years ago 2
Wow.
Some people really give Christians a bad name.
And, uh, YoutubMAGGOT, I'm a Christian metalhead. We have some pretty hardcore stuff.
How bout you try Demon Hunter, hmm?
RaidonSama 3 years ago
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i say all metalheads and punks gather up and protest 1 of those gay ass christain rock shows
YouTubMAGGOT 3 years ago
Demon Hunter, As I Lay Dying, Haste They Day, The Devil Wears Prada.
Guitarguy3151 2 years ago
"Now oh Lord I feel your warm embrace, contentment
fills my soul as joy lights my face."
hmmmmm...santanic or not...YOU be the judge :)
alexzumiezmonkey 3 years ago 2
wow, thats funny.
Those two guys reminded me of my mother.
The peop[le at the church my mom forces
me to go to told me if i didn't accept
jesus that he would send me to burn in hell..
LOL.
sweetcontradiction 3 years ago
All right, you guys were being a *little* immature, but this was seriously funny.
WildGiggleGirl 3 years ago
who those 2 think they are to judge people saying "you will burn in hell"?? Jesus would never say a thing like that... this 2 should be concerned about those people who doesn´t have Jesus in their hearts, but how can this 2 say about Jesus if their behaviour is from a person who don´t have Jesus?? this is sad... let´s pray for them
jesusfreak318 3 years ago
Isn't "Take Me In" from the Strong Tower worship album in A minor?
darrentyler 3 years ago
wow...... if they are throwing a fit about kutless, i wonder what those tools think about bands like Norma Jean,Underoath, and TDWP!
jcm2389 3 years ago
thank u ARisenServant for sharing such a wonderful verse :)
glitterdude69 3 years ago
Psalms 150:3-5
3 Praise him with the sounding of the trumpet,
praise him with the harp and lyre,
4 praise him with tambourine and dancing,
praise him with the strings and flute,
5 praise him with the clash of cymbals,
praise him with resounding cymbals.
ARisenServant 3 years ago
Wow, I thought that the "Christian ROCK music" controversy was ancient history, like in the 70's? The ironic thing, is the whole goal of the tour is evangelistic. I wonder what kind of music they think is appropriate? So funny!
kdpeanut 3 years ago
lol I thought this was funny but was just made my spleen explode is when Nick showed up in the video! These fools remind me of Fred Phelps! lol
IanH2010 3 years ago
that was awesome! people like that dont know what they are tlaking about. they have no biblical evidence that rock and roll is evil. i looked and all i can find is evidence for rock and roll. but that was funny.
pyroArachnid777 3 years ago
Wow... these people are messed up in the head... that was funny though. Kutless's music is amazing!
FutureSoldier2011 3 years ago
wow I am in stitches laughing.... those 2 wack jobs are out of their minds!!! Kudos to you for standing up to them and messing with them. I am still laughing.
BoredwithLife07 3 years ago
those protesters are so ridiculous! Kutless's music is awesome AND uplifting!They have so many songs that are so amazingly spiritual like Sea of faces,Smile,Promise of a lifetime,Take me in,Strong tower,Incomplete just to name a few
I love Kutless!!!
tru2u4eternity 3 years ago 13
it's really sad that the devil has zealots like these 2 wrapped around his finger and they don't even know it....if one brings another one to god, really, where is the evil in that?
dergru 3 years ago
Haha. You might know Jesus, but does Jesus know you?
Classic.
daniellebeauty1 3 years ago 10
@daniellebeauty1...No, someone that's been dead for a couple thousand years cannot know anyone anymore...derp!
ncPsychosis 1 year ago
Genus writes a lot of Songs in A minor. We corrupted Nick's soul when he produced us. If Nick burns in hell, its our fault!
Brellrockstudios 3 years ago
OH NO Nick .. don't run them down ... they might shoot you or something .. oh my gosh ... be careful!!! Get back in the building!! YIKES!
noondaysunnds 3 years ago