Mark 4:19 "but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful."
Three souls in this parable were lost, died. Only the one sowed on good ground lived and went on to produce fruit. All those who do not grow and produce fruit will be taken away from the true vine. John 15:4-6 Read the bible for yourself. Ask for discernment. There are many false prophets sent out into the world to deceive.
What a timely and great word. I really ate that up. Yes. Those of us who worship by choice are whom God chooses to overcome he who was the worship leader, thought he was all that, sinned, fell, and wants everyone and everything to worship him. Satan is an insane egomaniac and God shows how unworthy Satan is of worship by using the foolish things of this world to confound the wise... He just... turns it all on its ear. Love it!
And so, although the Word is sown, to that heart it remains unknown, because there was no entryway; rebounding, it was caught away. So sad that hardened hearts exist, which shall continue to resist the Truth, which is the only way, and hold eternal life at bay. A somewhat softer heart was found, which had a little bit of ground, and when the Word was sown therein, it started new life to begin.
But soon the Sun came out in force and withered the poor sprout, of course, because of shallowness and sin, the roots could not dig deeply in. So sad that softer hearts aren’t deep enough to roust them from their sleep so they could freely enter in to life, and be cleansed from their sin. A softer heart of greater worth received the Seed within its earth, where it was nurtured and grew strong, but had to fight, for all along...
weeds and brambles grew there too and sought to choke the Word that grew, and like a cloak, the darkest song of stifling tares wrought greatest wrong. So sad that there are softer hearts which can’t defeat what wrath imparts so they could join the joyful throng that sings the overcomer’s song. But wait, a softer heart yet lives, receiving all the Sower gives, and deep within its moist, rich soil, the Truth is nourished, without toil.
And strengthening as it takes root, with stem and leaves to follow suit, established, it will not embroil with weeds ~ like water mixed with oil, they cannot choke this one's pursuit ~ maturing, bearing precious fruit. So glad are they ~ the softest hearts, receiving all the Word imparts, rewarding all the Sower's toil, the plot of sin and death to foil. Edna F. Haist June 23, 2009 7:00 a.m.
Huh??? God wants US to defeat the enemy (satan and co)?? Didn't Jesus do that on the cross?
Psalm 105 has nothing to do with US defeating the enemy! What Bill Johnson is doing is twisting the Holy Word of God so that it fits with his own teaching when what he should be doing is fitting his teaching to the Word of God!
Ps 105 is about remembering how God defeated Egypt and brought Israel out of captivity - it is about glorifying God for HIS greatness.
The primary purpose of this parable is to explain the different conditions the hearts of people can be in.
The wayside represents a heart hardened by much sin. Its a heart that Satan has easy and direct access to - on a wayside there are few obstacles to prevent birds getting access to seed sown there. If you read Mathew's version of Isaiah 6:9,10 (Mat 13:15) its clear that the individuals themselves have responsibility for their condition.
This interpretation of BJ's only works if you are applying the parable of the sower across the board as being applicable primarily to Christians which I know some people say is the case.
Personally I don't believe that to be the case and this kind of interpretation serves only to make overly mystic what is in fact simple. Yes you can draw an analogy with this parable and what happens when a Christian ignores God's word to him. But that analogy becomes strained as the parable continues ..more
From sun and hiemi (to send); to put together, i.e. (mentally) to comprehend; by implication, to act piously -- consider, understand, be wise.
I do not see the connection to understanding "through the 5 senses", although I do follow the idea that obeying the word and making it our experience is likely to make truth more than head knowledge.
Test everything, hold to what is good. Be a doer not a hearer only.
Gentlemen, this parable is found in all three of the synoptic gospels. In Mark 4:1-20, Matthew 13:1-23, and Luke 8:1-15. If you take a look at Marks account of the parable i think you will find what Bill was talking about. In Mark 4:13 the work "understand" here is the word: eidō meaning-
1) to see
a) to perceive with the eyes
b) to perceive by any of the senses
c) to perceive, notice, discern, discover
d) to see
There's more. It just wouldn't fit. Hope that helps.
@MrJoelBeckett : dude thank you soo much. lol, I tried looking up the original greek like other ppl and wasn't finding a hit with the 5 senses thing. although what Bill said made sense (being doers of the word, not just hearers) it def. helps that the "understand w/ the senses" thing wasn't a limb he was going out on. the fact that it was an ACTUAL nuance to the word adds another dimension to what Jesus was saying
what reference tool are u using? because the one I'm using (public service announcement: it was one of the first to come up when I did a google search so it's probably not the best) brings up the word gnosesthe in reference to understanding. Also, in Mark 4:13 understand seems to apply to the disciples whereas in the Matthew version it was in regards to the parable...??
@Brilliance728 look at biblos.com/mark/4-13.htm this show's that mark 4:13 uses a form of both eido and gnosesthe and actually both have to do with feeling and the senses (hold the mouse over the words "know" in the English and you get a definition of the Greek word behind it!)
@6625steve, could you explain what you mean? because i think you're saying exactly what Bill's saying. That when God gives us a seed, that has the potential of giving fruit, we need to act on it or we loose it. Or do you mean that the parable says that the seed is Jesus? He has never commanded us to understand everything about Him for Him to come into our lives. He will come and teach us through the Holy Spirit. Bill is a very experienced and wise preacher, dont loose the blessing that easly!
That is so deep! The first 2:30 of the vid basically described me. I've read so much of the Word, I can quote scripture but I rarely have the power of the seed in my heart. Ugh! I won't let this happen again!
Mark 4:19 "but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful."
Three souls in this parable were lost, died. Only the one sowed on good ground lived and went on to produce fruit. All those who do not grow and produce fruit will be taken away from the true vine. John 15:4-6 Read the bible for yourself. Ask for discernment. There are many false prophets sent out into the world to deceive.
Conservmom 11 months ago
What a timely and great word. I really ate that up. Yes. Those of us who worship by choice are whom God chooses to overcome he who was the worship leader, thought he was all that, sinned, fell, and wants everyone and everything to worship him. Satan is an insane egomaniac and God shows how unworthy Satan is of worship by using the foolish things of this world to confound the wise... He just... turns it all on its ear. Love it!
hazelmay64 11 months ago
The Parable of the Soil
A hardened heart of unbelief
is staked and guarded by the thief
who, when the Word is cast its way,
swoops down and snatches it away.
JuvieFirst 1 year ago
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JuvieFirst 1 year ago
8:05 wow. can i get a ticket to this church?
JakeyJake247 1 year ago
Huh??? God wants US to defeat the enemy (satan and co)?? Didn't Jesus do that on the cross?
Psalm 105 has nothing to do with US defeating the enemy! What Bill Johnson is doing is twisting the Holy Word of God so that it fits with his own teaching when what he should be doing is fitting his teaching to the Word of God!
Ps 105 is about remembering how God defeated Egypt and brought Israel out of captivity - it is about glorifying God for HIS greatness.
nzjunglist 1 year ago
Continuing...
The primary purpose of this parable is to explain the different conditions the hearts of people can be in.
The wayside represents a heart hardened by much sin. Its a heart that Satan has easy and direct access to - on a wayside there are few obstacles to prevent birds getting access to seed sown there. If you read Mathew's version of Isaiah 6:9,10 (Mat 13:15) its clear that the individuals themselves have responsibility for their condition.
Mysticising everything is not clever.
raxorules 1 year ago
This interpretation of BJ's only works if you are applying the parable of the sower across the board as being applicable primarily to Christians which I know some people say is the case.
Personally I don't believe that to be the case and this kind of interpretation serves only to make overly mystic what is in fact simple. Yes you can draw an analogy with this parable and what happens when a Christian ignores God's word to him. But that analogy becomes strained as the parable continues ..more
raxorules 1 year ago
Original Word: συνίημι
understand, be wise.
From sun and hiemi (to send); to put together, i.e. (mentally) to comprehend; by implication, to act piously -- consider, understand, be wise.
I do not see the connection to understanding "through the 5 senses", although I do follow the idea that obeying the word and making it our experience is likely to make truth more than head knowledge.
Test everything, hold to what is good. Be a doer not a hearer only.
mozdickson 1 year ago
@mozdickson
yea, I looked it up too, I don't know where Bill got the "5 senses" thing. But I understand the principle (James 1:22).
whizzpopping 1 year ago
@mozdickson
Gentlemen, this parable is found in all three of the synoptic gospels. In Mark 4:1-20, Matthew 13:1-23, and Luke 8:1-15. If you take a look at Marks account of the parable i think you will find what Bill was talking about. In Mark 4:13 the work "understand" here is the word: eidō meaning-
1) to see
a) to perceive with the eyes
b) to perceive by any of the senses
c) to perceive, notice, discern, discover
d) to see
There's more. It just wouldn't fit. Hope that helps.
MrJoelBeckett 1 year ago
@MrJoelBeckett
Sweet, thanks that helps a lot. You're awesome.
whizzpopping 1 year ago
@MrJoelBeckett thanks for that Joel, will look into it more closely.
mozdickson 1 year ago
@MrJoelBeckett : dude thank you soo much. lol, I tried looking up the original greek like other ppl and wasn't finding a hit with the 5 senses thing. although what Bill said made sense (being doers of the word, not just hearers) it def. helps that the "understand w/ the senses" thing wasn't a limb he was going out on. the fact that it was an ACTUAL nuance to the word adds another dimension to what Jesus was saying
lol...so glad for modern day Bereans
Brilliance728 1 year ago
@MrJoelBeckett
what reference tool are u using? because the one I'm using (public service announcement: it was one of the first to come up when I did a google search so it's probably not the best) brings up the word gnosesthe in reference to understanding. Also, in Mark 4:13 understand seems to apply to the disciples whereas in the Matthew version it was in regards to the parable...??
Brilliance728 1 year ago
@Brilliance728 look at biblos.com/mark/4-13.htm this show's that mark 4:13 uses a form of both eido and gnosesthe and actually both have to do with feeling and the senses (hold the mouse over the words "know" in the English and you get a definition of the Greek word behind it!)
jonlightyear2000 9 months ago
"the whole plan from the beginning is to bring a defeat to the powers of darkness through those made in His image who worship by choice"
9:10
olabashanda 1 year ago
The parable of the Sower is talking about the seed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He's so wrong as he usually is.
6625steve 2 years ago
@6625steve, could you explain what you mean? because i think you're saying exactly what Bill's saying. That when God gives us a seed, that has the potential of giving fruit, we need to act on it or we loose it. Or do you mean that the parable says that the seed is Jesus? He has never commanded us to understand everything about Him for Him to come into our lives. He will come and teach us through the Holy Spirit. Bill is a very experienced and wise preacher, dont loose the blessing that easly!
krullmajsan 1 year ago
@6625steve
Do you know the word for accusation of believers and ministers is "diabolos", literally "devil-speaking"?
You make accusations without basis, which you are to do only with 2 or 3 witnesses, according to the Bible.
olabashanda 1 year ago
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6625steve 2 years ago
That is so deep! The first 2:30 of the vid basically described me. I've read so much of the Word, I can quote scripture but I rarely have the power of the seed in my heart. Ugh! I won't let this happen again!
MtelH 2 years ago
wonderful!
illuminess007 2 years ago
absolutly brilliant
pls post up more
tobisogba 2 years ago