soundz good! if you like the wholetone scales. i hear a LOT of them (played in a brilliant way) i need to say. Personnaly, i like a playing rich in different scales and harmonys. like Rosenwinkel (as an exemple)
To me it's very interesting how he changes the way he holds the guitar when he switches from pick to fingers... I'm not a guitarist, just a musician. I've somehow managed to learn four or five other stringed instruments but not guitar, so i have no idea what I'm talking about, but it seems like he has training in classical guitar?
@chessmeister Monder doesn't have any traditional classical training, he basically figured it out on his own. The classical guitar position he uses provides a better angle for the right hand when playing fingerstyle, and also makes it easier for the left hand to stretch over multiple frets. It also helps that his hands, like Holdsworth's are freakishly large!
I saw Monder recently in Berkeley California and he said that he thought chords should be thought of as notes "stacked" not thirds I assume. He asked the audience for note choices, 3, 4, 7, 9, then he showed how to harmonize them in different modes to get new chords. It was important I think to note that was a technique he used to move toward the brilliant playing he does... not a formula.
Chris was using a bass from our school (CSU Bakersfield) and it wasn't cooperating with him.
Ben killed though - one of my highlights as a professor at CSU Bakersfield was bringing these three guys to the University. Great day for me and our students...
definately an insult comparing him to holdsworth.. holdsworth is much more rock/fusion. sure he has chops but so what. monder is a jazzer of the highest calibre. monder 1 - holdsworth 0 lol
sorry dude, "he has chops but so what"? please chill.. ask monder about holdsworth and youd be surprised.. holdsworth is one great master since decades.. and so monder now. rigards
@Nu9v9 please chill? about what? i'm entitled to an opinion no? I think ben monder has pushed MUSIC to another level above holdsworth. When i listen to Holdsworth i hear scales, when i listen to Monder i hear melodies
@fakesoundsjazz1983 dont take it as an offense.. but what scales do you hear? because he is known for not using the tonal system at all.. he has came with a hole new system to make music.. he has no dorian frigian or mixolidian and etc modes.. check him in the web. please ask your idol here what thinks about holdsworth and let monder himself tell you about him.. have some respect, peace man
@Nu9v9 i know monder and rosenwinkel are into him, but i think they're more into the concept and theory rather than his actual note choice. I know he's thought up a whole new system but when he plays its more like a flurry of notes than melodies. thats what i think. plus, he's a fusion player where i see monder and rosenwinkel as more pure jazz players, rosenwinkel being more than monder. it doesnt matter anyway, you like what you like i like what i like
@fakesoundsjazz1983 You know what Monder likes about Holdsworth? You're sure he doesn't love Allan's brilliant "actual" note choices?
Monder is new to me, but he's quickly joining Holdsworth as one of my favorites.
You are right, though, that we all like what we like. But I certainly wouldn't presume to know how to label these guys. Too rock, more real jazz, etc...
@fakesoundsjazz1983 "monder 1 - holdsworth 0" is definitely the new champion of ignorant comments on yourtube. if you think holdsworth is just "chops", then you're obviously either not listening, or are incapable of recognizing his brilliance.
@mcj3691 wow, didnt realise youd get so touchy over a (slightly) flippant comment. Maybe i am incapable of recognizing his brilliance.. 5years of studying jazz can do that to you. He's fine if your a guitar player and like fusion - you are a guitarist yes? id rather listen to mark turner, ben van gelder or kurt to be honest. Now THERE is brilliance. but you like what you like i like what i like. whatever
Stunning, a worthy succesor to Holdsworth, finally a player who is emotive and highly listenable in this territory, balancing the cerebral with the all-important accesibility. His genius lies in making those off-the-planet melodies avalable to anyones' ears, no matter what their musical background or tastes. I'd go s far as putting him up there with Mozart.
I read about him in the Penguin guide to jazz so I took a chance and purchased his album Flux. The man is part scientist part poet. I'm not a guitar player but I think of Holdsworth also when I hear him play and vice versa. I purchase anything with him on it.
I was lucky enough to host this performance at CSU Bakersfield. It was a stunning day with Ben, Chris and Ted. They did a killer clinic with my music students and then an amazing show - what a blast this show was!
The ending is pretty damn haunting...
andrewdissen 1 year ago
Thumbs up if you heard about this guy from Paul Masvidal
CtrlRm 1 year ago
bakersfield lol
bauerpower592 1 year ago
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CSUBMusic 7 months ago
exelente !!!
daiegfreejazz 1 year ago
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dwh0689 1 year ago
soundz good! if you like the wholetone scales. i hear a LOT of them (played in a brilliant way) i need to say. Personnaly, i like a playing rich in different scales and harmonys. like Rosenwinkel (as an exemple)
ericrob2112 1 year ago
The dizzying heights of new music. Absolutely incredible.
sortajazz 1 year ago
To me it's very interesting how he changes the way he holds the guitar when he switches from pick to fingers... I'm not a guitarist, just a musician. I've somehow managed to learn four or five other stringed instruments but not guitar, so i have no idea what I'm talking about, but it seems like he has training in classical guitar?
chessmeister 1 year ago
@chessmeister Monder doesn't have any traditional classical training, he basically figured it out on his own. The classical guitar position he uses provides a better angle for the right hand when playing fingerstyle, and also makes it easier for the left hand to stretch over multiple frets. It also helps that his hands, like Holdsworth's are freakishly large!
daschwarjazz 1 year ago
I saw Monder recently in Berkeley California and he said that he thought chords should be thought of as notes "stacked" not thirds I assume. He asked the audience for note choices, 3, 4, 7, 9, then he showed how to harmonize them in different modes to get new chords. It was important I think to note that was a technique he used to move toward the brilliant playing he does... not a formula.
babinm 1 year ago
I love how otherworldly his compositions are. One of my favorite guitar players, it's a shame he is not more well known than he is.
FluorescentLeach 1 year ago
That Gretsch sound! Ted Poor is a player
StKittsDave 1 year ago
I can't even think of how he comes up w/ this stuff. genious.
Chobucto 1 year ago
@Chobucto He's an alien..
tsiggy 1 year ago
Chris was using a bass from our school (CSU Bakersfield) and it wasn't cooperating with him.
Ben killed though - one of my highlights as a professor at CSU Bakersfield was bringing these three guys to the University. Great day for me and our students...
jimmuscomp 2 years ago
tanx for the joy....
kebab72 2 years ago
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nated789 2 years ago
personally, i disagree. while i prefer monder's aesthetic, holdsworth is one of the most gifted improvisers on the planet.
kevinm4435 2 years ago
definately an insult comparing him to holdsworth.. holdsworth is much more rock/fusion. sure he has chops but so what. monder is a jazzer of the highest calibre. monder 1 - holdsworth 0 lol
fakesoundsjazz1983 2 years ago
sorry dude, "he has chops but so what"? please chill.. ask monder about holdsworth and youd be surprised.. holdsworth is one great master since decades.. and so monder now. rigards
Nu9v9 1 year ago
@Nu9v9 please chill? about what? i'm entitled to an opinion no? I think ben monder has pushed MUSIC to another level above holdsworth. When i listen to Holdsworth i hear scales, when i listen to Monder i hear melodies
fakesoundsjazz1983 1 year ago
@fakesoundsjazz1983 dont take it as an offense.. but what scales do you hear? because he is known for not using the tonal system at all.. he has came with a hole new system to make music.. he has no dorian frigian or mixolidian and etc modes.. check him in the web. please ask your idol here what thinks about holdsworth and let monder himself tell you about him.. have some respect, peace man
Nu9v9 1 year ago
@Nu9v9 i know monder and rosenwinkel are into him, but i think they're more into the concept and theory rather than his actual note choice. I know he's thought up a whole new system but when he plays its more like a flurry of notes than melodies. thats what i think. plus, he's a fusion player where i see monder and rosenwinkel as more pure jazz players, rosenwinkel being more than monder. it doesnt matter anyway, you like what you like i like what i like
fakesoundsjazz1983 1 year ago
@fakesoundsjazz1983 You know what Monder likes about Holdsworth? You're sure he doesn't love Allan's brilliant "actual" note choices?
Monder is new to me, but he's quickly joining Holdsworth as one of my favorites.
You are right, though, that we all like what we like. But I certainly wouldn't presume to know how to label these guys. Too rock, more real jazz, etc...
sixfingr 1 year ago
@fakesoundsjazz1983 "monder 1 - holdsworth 0" is definitely the new champion of ignorant comments on yourtube. if you think holdsworth is just "chops", then you're obviously either not listening, or are incapable of recognizing his brilliance.
mcj3691 1 year ago
@mcj3691 small keyboard on this thing. i meant "youtube" , not "yourtube", obvioiusly.
mcj3691 1 year ago
@mcj3691 wow, didnt realise youd get so touchy over a (slightly) flippant comment. Maybe i am incapable of recognizing his brilliance.. 5years of studying jazz can do that to you. He's fine if your a guitar player and like fusion - you are a guitarist yes? id rather listen to mark turner, ben van gelder or kurt to be honest. Now THERE is brilliance. but you like what you like i like what i like. whatever
fakesoundsjazz1983 1 year ago
Stunning, a worthy succesor to Holdsworth, finally a player who is emotive and highly listenable in this territory, balancing the cerebral with the all-important accesibility. His genius lies in making those off-the-planet melodies avalable to anyones' ears, no matter what their musical background or tastes. I'd go s far as putting him up there with Mozart.
tactilehero 2 years ago
I read about him in the Penguin guide to jazz so I took a chance and purchased his album Flux. The man is part scientist part poet. I'm not a guitar player but I think of Holdsworth also when I hear him play and vice versa. I purchase anything with him on it.
cyclonus812 2 years ago
thank YOU !!!!!
amazing music
joaofofes 2 years ago
I was lucky enough to host this performance at CSU Bakersfield. It was a stunning day with Ben, Chris and Ted. They did a killer clinic with my music students and then an amazing show - what a blast this show was!
jimmuscomp 3 years ago 5
ted poor is amazing too
ben monder and him thinks music the same way
spacefertilizer 3 years ago 2
Wow--amazing!!
jasoncasper16 3 years ago
Yeah!!! Never thought I would see this song performed live. Thank You for posting.
emfolla 3 years ago
heeey!!! its amazing. wondeful music. Just Ben Monder
Murakamizo 3 years ago
Just Amazing.
guitarrabrasileira 3 years ago
sounds awesome. Looks like a b**** to play!
derekbomback 3 years ago