naz lost to barrera cuz his head was messed up he was on the verge of splitting up with ingle and nobody as 2 trainers in the corner in a fight giving him 2 different views on how to beat him what was that all about
It's amazing to read an idiot going off about Nasim Hamed being a clown, a joke and Barrera proving that, when the idiots on a page where the respected coach Emanual Steward is talking about Hamed coming in underprepared for the fight. The fight with Barrera was a classic where the underdone fighter (Hamed) went 12 rounds and didn't leave the ring on a stretcher. Barrera was good, but he got knocked the fuck out a few times, and that was throughout his whole career. And Hamed?
@09wiggles And Hamed? He got utterly schooled and was never the same. He fought one bogus fight and then retired. Barrera is his daddy and is still holding his heart.........
Naz was a clown, a joke, and Marco proved it. Those who blindly say, he's the best(Naz), you need to go back and watch his fight with Barrera again. Naz had zero boxing skills, zero. I love people who talk just to hear their own voice.
Naz is the fucking man! The only people who hate him are those who were jealous of him or those who hate his religion. Both groups don't count and he is still one of the best boxers ever.
@2006Roni bollocks!! jealous of a braggart? its plain to see he didnt have the skills to compete with the likes of barrera, morales, gatti etc, and as usual its the bigots that use religion as an excuse, no-one has ever commented or ridiculed hamed about his religion.
@SARxAphexArcade i'm glad someone else here knows there boxing. and is' nt fooled by how good a fighter looks. its the quality of opposition that is everything. substance over style
later in his career nas stopped training as hard as he thought he was unbeatable. i think he would have beat barrera if he trained as hard as he did at the start of his career.
My Question is who was Nazim knocking out? He has'nt knocked out no top knoch opponents. Every time they overhype so called knockout artist when they fight someone real they get exposed.
What was said by mr stewart makes sense. Preparing for a fight is very important and it was very clear that Naz came unprepared and I don't think he even watched or studied barrera fights.. He was over confident and felt untouchable. His arrogance is what beat him first, then barrera finished it off.. I bet barrera came prepared and he deserved to win.
nas lost cos steward changed his style from and elusive awkward puncher to a fighter who would sit down on his punches stand in front of opponents and tries to get them out with one shot steward says he didnt change it but watch the fights when hamed was with steward youll see
@akosihelbert I know boxing and Hamed punched harder than Pacquiao I reckon. I'm not saying he was a master boxer but I'm saying he could end it with one punch against anybody if he lands squarely. Punchers chance why can't you admit that?
@moetrizzle im was beginning to show you some respect but what the hell man? hamed punches harder than pacquiao? fuck..you crazy or what..pac is considered part of top 10 hardest punchers- pound4pound..hamed would not be in the top 50
@akosihelbert it's not my list, it's made by RING magazine, the most prominent boxing magazine in the US. So it is actually made by experts and based on criteria for judgement
@visr452 you're still up? you kidding right? not even you would belive that bullshit..we all know he doesn't deserve any credit. he's a bum..that's a fact..plus the only legitimate elite fighter he fought with was barrera, with whom he lost to.
@akosihelbert top 10 hardest p4p punchers hahaha he is now were near jimmy wilde the hardest puncher in history of baxing. jimmy wilde would make pac man look like a fag
Naz didnt train for the Barrera fight, didnt focus on him. My old Boss's wife was Naz's physio, treated him throughout his career - she was in Vegas with him training for the Barrera fight, she said he didnt train and spar properly, my Boss predicted he would lose a few weeks before, I didnt believe him but he was right. Naz was my boyhood boxing here - he achieved so much, he just thought it would be an easier fight.
On the night of the fight Steward had the excuse that Hamed injured his back - now it's because Hamed didn't train as he normally did. I think all this does is minimize Barrera's victory who I think won because on this night he was the better boxer.
He was talented but like all asians and arabs he lacked heart and mind power!! in short no fucking substance. If he had ray leonards mentality he could have went far.
@bertelliish The stereotype of Asians is generally that they are better than any other race in regards to Math and Science. Those are the parts of our education that run our world's economy. You're the one who lacks mental strength. You're a racist who doesn't even know his stereotypes properly. The facts are Asians are every bit as mentally strong as any other race, and they put a precedence on Math and Science in their schools. Its why China is on their way to the top. Even as athletes.
@bertelliish You're not getting it. I'm simply saying they are the best at problem solving. It makes them like scientists in the ring. They call the sport "the sweet science" for a reason. They're athletes are performing really well at the Olympics and they are starting to become an excellent place to find professional basketball players. In the olympics, their boxing team easily out performed the American boxing team. Thailand did really well too. They're just getting into the sport too.
@bertelliish Thanks man. The problem in Asia is they are really into kickboxing. Its a way of life in southeast Asia. Boxing is just becoming a major player in the fight game there. Give them 10 or 20 years, and you'll see a lot more Manny Pacquiao type fighters come along. Either way, the sport is still dominated by black and Latino boxers. No argument there. Pacquiao is an exception right now.
@HeavyD2544 pacquiao is not just an exception he is simply a boxing dynamo. I like pac(who doesn't) even when i first saw him i was like hey is this guy for real!! I can see a bit of a bruce lee type of fighting spirit he is extraordinary. I put him right up there with floyd mayweather, and who knows he may very well beat him!!....Boxing is a funny game. If they ever meet it could go either way.
@HeavyD2544 Sorry to burst your bubble you asians will always be the weaker sex lol....This has been like this since your granpappys time. You are not athletic or masculine like blacks and whites. From as far back as i can remember asians are not built for sports.....That is why you are intrinsically smaller and possess small dicks lol.............Blacks and whites are kings of the earth !! Thats why when whites and blacks mingle they produce exceptional breeds of human specis.
@bertelliish lool you wasteman you where obviously saying it to prince naseem and his an arab. so shut up and about asians being weak thats the dumbest thing ive ever herd when you look at most of your products what does it say? "made in china" look at the quick development china and japan went threw and asians are still weak? lool go kill yourself.
Emmanuel Steward have the best excuses to why hes fighter lost: If he would, but he didn't, i knew he was, he should of train hard ...etc.. Naseem Hamed nothing but a show man, u look good when ur fight average fighters but u fight great fighters, forget about the all time greats, u don't have skills to win.
What Emmanuel Steward is saying is that Hamed getting trounced had nothing to do with him. Ride or die Manny, you can't take the glory of winning then bail when it comes to coping with defeat.
best 4 ever u naaz why cuz i know why u lose i don care about this man u not concentrate and u lose some wieght and that was tactics fight only but why u best conviedence !!!!!power!!!!hands down !!!!!funny!!! dancing!!!!and i know u best and u can beat barera not cuz i love u nop cuz i watch ur all fights and still great fight
@a99999999999987 Bunce is always talking rubbish, though about 20% of the time he talks sense. Hamed is never gonna fight Barrera, or anyone else for that matter. He was about the undefeated record. Once that went he became ordinary and lost his aura of invincibility. An example of this was Muhammad Ali because when Ali lost to Joe Frazier he was never the same fighter and had to adjust his style. But the bigger question is... was Hamed a legend? Yes he was.
naz was exposed by barrera lets be honest. hamed was exciting yes, but he had little substance. he would have lost to all the best featherweights of the era. in fact it was best for him he was exposed by barrera and not morales or marquez. i think both of those guys would have Knocked hamed out.
@axebattler1 No I don't think Barrera would've knocked Hamed out. The way Barrera punched Hamed seemed like he could've knocked out Hamed but it was Hamed's lack of balance which made the punches look more hurtful. The Hamed which fought Steve Robinson and Jose Badello would've beaten Barrera. I would also honestly say that Hamed was a better and harder puncher than Mike Tyson.
@axebattler1 Regardless, Barrera fought to a set plan to catch Hamed with counters after Hamed had committed himself. Had Hamed givn Barrera more respect then he would've known what to expect at least. It's also worth watching the Calvo fight because that's the only time he gave his opponent any respect but it resulted in a dull fight. Hamed was a showman and ko artist. The greatest and hardest Featherweight puncher of all-time. That's enough for legendary status.
@NazhitsREALLYHARD "legendary status" only truely comes from BEATING the best of your time. from beating Hall of famers. you conveniently skipped what i said twice now. do you think hamed would have beaten Morales or marquez? keep in mind the fact that style wise both of those fighters were naturaly the type of fighters barrera became when he dominated hamed. analize hamed without emotion, with only your boxing knowledge. i know its hard i have had my favorites and its hard to be objective.
@axebattler1 You just heard what "legendary" trainer Emmanuel Steward say that if Hamed had trained like he did earlier in his career then he would've been beaten Barrea. NOT "could've" but WOULD'VE!. I'm a Hamed fan but I'm actually more of a orthodox boxing fan. I prefer Floyd Mayweather jr over Naseem Hamed. Like I said before, the Hamed that fought Steve Robinson and Jose Badello would've beaten Barrera, Marquez and Morales.
@NazhitsREALLYHARD lots of ifs, would'ves in there...the problem is we need to go on real evidence. he DID fight barrera and was not competative. he retired after that fight. returning only once i believe. showing his passion for the sport was taken away by the loss. not what the greats do. theres also videos where stewart admits hamed ducked marquez. marquez was hameds #1 contender for yrs but the sanctioning body allowed him to avoid it. showing hamed and his people were afraid of marquez
@axebattler1 Hamed did dodge Marquez but only because Marquez wasn't a marquee fighter. No-one in the states really knew him so it made sense for him not to fight him. That's probably the reason why the governing body allowed him to dodge Marquez. If's and buts are in the case of many fighters. Mike Tyson has a alot of if's and buts. Would a young Tyson have beaten the same Lennox Lewis of 2002? I don't think so. And yet when Tyson lost to Douglas he was far over-rated.
@NazhitsREALLYHARD he dodged marquez on the advice of his people. they knew he was too dangerous. the sanctioning body allowed him to duck marq because hamed was the more famous and higher paid fighter. making him a better representative of the belt and more importantly allowing them to get more money out of him for sanctioning fees. the sanctioning body also understood he would have little to no chance against marquez. thus they would loose out on the "starpower" hamed braught in.
@axebattler1 What you said don't make sense one bit... your trying to tell me that Hamed ducked Marquez and instead fought Barrera? Barrera was more dangerous than Marquez... and if you look at Marquez's record he wasn't as good as you make out.
@NazhitsREALLYHARD Marquez was way more dangerous then Barrera. most importantly thats what the hardcore boxing puplic thought at the time. also the time he fought barrera was after a few yrs of ducking marquez. the reason hamed faught barrera was because the feeling in the boxing community was that barrera was'nt the same after the 1st morales fight. fighters are often not the same after those kind of wars.
@NazhitsREALLYHARD this was'nt a debate it was an education. if you wanna drop out of school thats fine. when you're older you'll regret it though. but i'll be here to help if you need it
@axebattler1 Allah-hu-akbar! Naseem Hamed is a legend! A future hall of famer. When he gets inducted then you'll go into rehab for being insane. He was a great fighter. Bye NOOB.
@axebattler1 You are wrong friend it was Marquez who avoided him. Marquez was his mandotary challeger for about sixteen months and who would not fight him. In the case of Barrea and Morales they ducked when he was in his early twenties, when he was simply phenomenal.
@Akshirwa so in his early twenties(when he was fighting nobodies) he was phenomenal then in his mid twenties when he was fighting much better competition suddenly he was no longer phenominal? could'nt it just be that he was never really that good so as his comp. improved he performed worse and worse? and when FINALLY he faught a great fighter he was totally outclassed? is'nt that the simple truth of it? what do you think would have happened if he faught marquez and moralez at any age?
@axebattler1 So true. Name any big name fighter that Hamed fought during his undefeated streak. You wouldn't be able to pick out a name at all 'cause majority of them were just nobodies. Only Barrera was the only big name and he lost to him.
@axebattler1 Yes Hamed lacked grit, desire and passion. He should've fought Barrera again, Morales, Marquez and later perhaps Pac-man. But he is a legend. One of the greatest punchers in boxing history. There is talk of him being inducted into the Hall of Fame in the next few years. Can't wait to see him walk up and accept his induction. lol
@axebattler1 Hamed's poor performances against the likes of Kevin Kelley and Augie Sanchez were because he didn't use his jab effectively, and just went out to knock his opponent out. Had he used his jab and stayed more elusive rather than "flat footed" then he would'nt have got caught by "half" the punches that he eventually got tagged with. That is why I say that the Hamed which fought Robinson and Badello would've beaten the mexican trio. That Hamed was FAST and POWERFUL! Rare combination.
@axebattler1 You say friend that he fought nobodies in his early twenties, I disagree with you. Here are some of the so called nobodies that he faced Steve Robinson, Manuel Medina, Tom "Boom Boom" Johnson, Wilfredo Vazquez, Daniel Alicea, Jose Badillo and many others. They were all good fighters.
@axebattler1 The naz who fought barrera was an accident waiting to happen, steward and suraez had tampered with his unique style, an it had dreadfull affects. They had made him plant is feet more and get more power out of is punches.This inturn made him get hit alot more, than he had under ingle. You just have to wach naz vs steve robinson, to see how much different his style was early on in his career. If naz had not started to rely on power to much, he would of beat barrera with ease.
@axebattler1 Perhaps at that point in his career he lacked substance. But for most of his career he was incredibly inventive and varied.
Many of the most effective fighters in K-1, Muay Thai and mma switch stances to prove a more confusing fighter offensively. Naz was pretty much the only boxer to do it since Hagler. People worship Hagler for it but crucify Naz for it, it's dumb.
@jitteryjoe Wrong. Ricardo Lopez, an all-time great with whom Hamed doesn't even compare, went from right to left and back again quite easily. And he fought during the same era as Hamed...but as I mentioned, was far superior to Hamed in every way. Lopez was truly an all-time great. Hamed was only regarded as such by his most ardent supporters, who are terribly deluded.
@axebattler1 Naz had an iron chin he wouldent get knocked out and Naz had called Marquez and Morales out they refused to fight him. If any fighter brawled with Naz they would of get knocked out, thats why Barrea boxed Naz he new fighting would lead to him getting K.Od.
@Khan12078 marquez was a better more technical boxer then barrera. it was his natural style. on top of his style he was a harder puncher then barrera. imo he would have hit naz with the same type of shots barrera landed only harder. you need to read up on marquez vs naz. marquez was naz' #1 contender for yrs. normaly a sanctioning body requires that you defend against your mandatory. they let naz avoid it for yrs. why? because the hardcore boxing world knew naz would loose.
@axebattler1 when Naz agreed after Marquez had a 3 month lay off, Marquez refused. Barrea never hurt Naz anyway, Naz had super human power. All imm saying is if Marquez trades with Naz he would hit the canvas, so hed need to box like Barrea did.
@axebattler1 wooah...i'd rank Barrera ahead of Morales and Marquez. Barrera was no joke, of course either were the other three, but imo Barrera was the cream of the crop...
@dlc85007 if i listed every boxer in history that could have beaten Hamed easily i'd need about 10,000 characters to work with..... also, i see hamed morales barrera and to a lesser extent marquez as being from a slightly older featherweight era then the one pacman stepped into. pacman like many other greats stepped up to clean out aging past their prime fighters. it would be like comparing de la hoya to chavez. just because de la hoya beat chavez fairly easily does not mean he's greater.
@dlc85007 also, pacquiao was NOT barrera's very next fight. he faught at least 4 other fights between hamed and pac. one of them was another war with morales. my guess is you are not a hardcore boxing fan but a fan that goes from big fight to big fight only. and thus judges careers based on limited info. not trying to be mean or insulting its just most boxing "fans" are like this
@axebattler1 You are right and wrong, i just looked it up, it went Barrera vs Morales then hammed then Morales then Pacquaio. I looked it up on Wiki.... suck it
@dlc85007 i bet you had to look it up. i'm right and wrong? i know where i was right, barreras very next fight was not pacquiao. but you did'nt show where i was wrong. in fact you were wrong and wrong again. it was barrera v. hamed, barrera v. sanchez, barrera v. morales, barrera v. tapia, barrera v. kelly then barrera v. pacquiao.
@axebattler1 wtf you talkin about, didnt i just say i looked it up and didnt you just have the same answer before, but my answer still remains the same to you objection, suck itttttttttttttt
@axebattler1 congrats bro but something tells me you only had a couple wins because of how much time you bothered with it, anyway check out my 1st knock out i did yesterday on a light heavy weight, he was 184Lbs (85kg) and im only 154Lbs (70KG)
@dlc85007 hahaha I was reading your comments and I see you got other people watching you knock out a light weight amatuer.I see you lost the debate but won the fight.....nice left hook by the way.... baby Frazier........:)
@jason60152 haha yeah the debate, tuff break, thanks man, im getting alot of people at work coming up and shaking my hand for knocking out that dude last saturday, im still extremely pumped over it, i put that shit of facebook and everything and now i get the elderly ladies :P
@axebattler1 I don't think he would have been knocked out. Naz had a terrific chin. That's one thing which people overlook about him. The guy really knew how to take a punch when he wasn't so elusive.
@axebattler1 hamed is like darchinyan in some ways... hands way out wide like he is flying all open to be hit. and I think barrera was probly the lesser of morales and marquez and barrera trio. Also as he got older if he tried to move out of that weight he would be fighting castillo? then he would get his head ripped off
@TheBenballs99 similar to darchinyan in that he has an improvisational style yes. and because of that improve style neither could deal with technically great boxers(barrera and Nonito). theres a reason trainers don't teach fighters to fight like hamed/darchinyan....because it does not work at the highest levels. morales and marquez had KILLER power in their right hands(a south paws worst nightmare) hamed would have been put to sleep
@axebattler1 Hamed had KILLER power in his left hand and his unorthodox style would have put Morales or Marquez on they ass like they been before.Hamed is from a different breed.
very intresting to hear steward say if naz was 1005 he could of beat barrera so basically gone on to be in the top 100 or even 50 all time greats, i think for pure talent he's one of the best ever.
@sjewitt22 he was remarkably talented but his problem was discipline "outside the ring". Don't get me wrong, he did his training BUT he took his opponents lightly and it is was that aspect of him which was most loathed by the british public & media. But to answer the 2 toughest questions... Was Hamed beatable? Yes. Is Hamed a boxing legend? Yes
"Pure talent" means jack shit when evaluating a fighter's legacy. How many great fighters did he beat? How convincingly did he beat them? Those are the only questions that matter...and in Hamed's case, he fought one great fighter and was soundly outclassed, and struggled against almost all his top level opponents. Hamed's best wins came against mid to low level opposition...that is not the CV of "one of the best ever".
@garethac81 I'm a Hamed fan and I admit most of what you say is true! Believe that people who say Barrera would always beat Hamed is bullshit though! If Hamed had not underestimated Marco and made some defensive adjustments instead of the one sided beatdown we saw we would have seen an amazing fight perhaps one to put in the same category as the Vasquez-Marquez bouts or Gatti- Ward fights. Hamed had withering power at his weight and would have loved to see him have his hands higher
Naz what a waste of a great talent, the guy was destined for greatness, untill he let himself go badly and started relying way to much on is power. You only have to watch is footwork against barrera, and against steve robinson. To realise how much is style and changed and how dependable he had become on is big shots. An this was is downfall, course soon as he fought a world class fighter, he couldnt connect with the shots to make is power usefull.
He didnt go to jail for leaving scene of an accident, he went to jail for causing the accident with wreckless driving, in which he seriously injured someone.
Mexican fighters are out of his league
tepeyac10 2 weeks ago
naz lost to barrera cuz his head was messed up he was on the verge of splitting up with ingle and nobody as 2 trainers in the corner in a fight giving him 2 different views on how to beat him what was that all about
singinsmiley1 3 weeks ago
naz was a great fighter, but he was never in any wars or fought the type of fighters barrera fought cmom lets be realistic
willycrespo93 1 month ago 2
@willycrespo93 id 2nd that....naz fought pretty much no names til Barrera if he fought real fighters...he wouldnt of lasted 6 months in boxing...
youngmurph86 1 week ago
It's amazing to read an idiot going off about Nasim Hamed being a clown, a joke and Barrera proving that, when the idiots on a page where the respected coach Emanual Steward is talking about Hamed coming in underprepared for the fight. The fight with Barrera was a classic where the underdone fighter (Hamed) went 12 rounds and didn't leave the ring on a stretcher. Barrera was good, but he got knocked the fuck out a few times, and that was throughout his whole career. And Hamed?
09wiggles 1 month ago
@09wiggles And Hamed? He got utterly schooled and was never the same. He fought one bogus fight and then retired. Barrera is his daddy and is still holding his heart.........
ChrisinEC 1 month ago 2
@09wiggles thats because hamed fough bums all the time when barrea was going at it with the best
Raiton45 1 month ago
Naz was a clown, a joke, and Marco proved it. Those who blindly say, he's the best(Naz), you need to go back and watch his fight with Barrera again. Naz had zero boxing skills, zero. I love people who talk just to hear their own voice.
bird4200 1 month ago
Naz is the fucking man! The only people who hate him are those who were jealous of him or those who hate his religion. Both groups don't count and he is still one of the best boxers ever.
2006Roni 1 month ago
@2006Roni bollocks!! jealous of a braggart? its plain to see he didnt have the skills to compete with the likes of barrera, morales, gatti etc, and as usual its the bigots that use religion as an excuse, no-one has ever commented or ridiculed hamed about his religion.
herebesmewa 1 month ago
excuses
ahuiran2 1 month ago
No one can replace Naz he is the best ..!
Sirajxxxalixxx 1 month ago
emanuel steward is a legend..doesnt make hamed a great..he is still a joke.
i see..the guy made a good point of ali making an intense atmosphere..so hamed mimic that..but he is not even half the man ali was.
as a result he retired after his first loss..i dont care about the reason..he just looked like a pussy
akosihelbert 1 month ago
@SARxAphexArcade i'm glad someone else here knows there boxing. and is' nt fooled by how good a fighter looks. its the quality of opposition that is everything. substance over style
axebattler1 2 months ago
later in his career nas stopped training as hard as he thought he was unbeatable. i think he would have beat barrera if he trained as hard as he did at the start of his career.
KILLUMINATI233 2 months ago
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Akshirwa 2 months ago
i could listen to manny steward all day long.....the man knows what hes talking about.
RandyMarsh911 2 months ago
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Naz was boxing itself...we miss you Princooooooo
rebelibya 2 months ago
steward knows what he is talking about so listen and shut up motherfuckers
jellybean8412 2 months ago
My Question is who was Nazim knocking out? He has'nt knocked out no top knoch opponents. Every time they overhype so called knockout artist when they fight someone real they get exposed.
Firstblk 2 months ago
What was said by mr stewart makes sense. Preparing for a fight is very important and it was very clear that Naz came unprepared and I don't think he even watched or studied barrera fights.. He was over confident and felt untouchable. His arrogance is what beat him first, then barrera finished it off.. I bet barrera came prepared and he deserved to win.
MadAvarEnt 2 months ago
Naz made a fool of himself in the press interveiws leading up to this fight'Allah this and Allah that crap'
Even in the ring just before the start of the fight more Allah bullshit on the mic speaking to the crowd and viewers!
Barrera said before the fight Allah might be in the ring with him on the night but Marco a Barrera will also be in there too!
He was right unlucky Naz wheres your Allah now?..
bazatc01 3 months ago
@bazatc01 Allah hates arrogance..
MadAvarEnt 2 months ago
nas lost cos steward changed his style from and elusive awkward puncher to a fighter who would sit down on his punches stand in front of opponents and tries to get them out with one shot steward says he didnt change it but watch the fights when hamed was with steward youll see
360sully 3 months ago
Monster puncher probably the hadest punching feather weight to ever live.
moetrizzle 3 months ago
@moetrizzle hamed the hardest puncher at featherweight? fuck..he wouldnt even fit in the top 10 hardest puncher..he's so soft
akosihelbert 2 months ago
@akosihelbert I know boxing and Hamed punched harder than Pacquiao I reckon. I'm not saying he was a master boxer but I'm saying he could end it with one punch against anybody if he lands squarely. Punchers chance why can't you admit that?
moetrizzle 1 month ago
@moetrizzle im was beginning to show you some respect but what the hell man? hamed punches harder than pacquiao? fuck..you crazy or what..pac is considered part of top 10 hardest punchers- pound4pound..hamed would not be in the top 50
akosihelbert 1 month ago
@akosihelbert Hamed is ranked by Ring magazine as the 46th hardest puncher of all time pound-for-pound, pacman is not even on the list of 100
visr452 3 weeks ago
@visr452 top 46? what a big fat shit..
you on crack? that muslim clown punches like a rabbit.
pac will demolish him..
you're right..pac is not in the top 100 of you pathetic list cause he's considered one of top 10 hardest p4p puncher of all time by experts.
akosihelbert 2 weeks ago
@akosihelbert it's not my list, it's made by RING magazine, the most prominent boxing magazine in the US. So it is actually made by experts and based on criteria for judgement
visr452 2 weeks ago
@visr452 you're still up? you kidding right? not even you would belive that bullshit..we all know he doesn't deserve any credit. he's a bum..that's a fact..plus the only legitimate elite fighter he fought with was barrera, with whom he lost to.
akosihelbert 2 weeks ago
@akosihelbert top 10 hardest p4p punchers hahaha he is now were near jimmy wilde the hardest puncher in history of baxing. jimmy wilde would make pac man look like a fag
DntJeal0usMe 1 week ago
@DntJeal0usMe *Boxing
DntJeal0usMe 1 week ago
@DntJeal0usMe yeah..that's right..near scmelling, baer and wilde.
your clown friend will surely look like like a 2 year old girl....too stupid and weak
akosihelbert 5 days ago
Naz didnt train for the Barrera fight, didnt focus on him. My old Boss's wife was Naz's physio, treated him throughout his career - she was in Vegas with him training for the Barrera fight, she said he didnt train and spar properly, my Boss predicted he would lose a few weeks before, I didnt believe him but he was right. Naz was my boyhood boxing here - he achieved so much, he just thought it would be an easier fight.
CarterTristan 3 months ago
On the night of the fight Steward had the excuse that Hamed injured his back - now it's because Hamed didn't train as he normally did. I think all this does is minimize Barrera's victory who I think won because on this night he was the better boxer.
Iownmyown 3 months ago
Hamed should be gratefull it was Barrera and not Marquez or Morales who he lost to they were a worse matchup it would of ended worse
C10shevrolay 3 months ago
He was talented but like all asians and arabs he lacked heart and mind power!! in short no fucking substance. If he had ray leonards mentality he could have went far.
bertelliish 4 months ago
@bertelliish
Racist moron.
garethac81 4 months ago
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@garethac81 Racist? why is that? it is typical of asians they lack mental strength its a fact
bertelliish 4 months ago
@bertelliish The stereotype of Asians is generally that they are better than any other race in regards to Math and Science. Those are the parts of our education that run our world's economy. You're the one who lacks mental strength. You're a racist who doesn't even know his stereotypes properly. The facts are Asians are every bit as mentally strong as any other race, and they put a precedence on Math and Science in their schools. Its why China is on their way to the top. Even as athletes.
HeavyD2544 3 months ago
@HeavyD2544 DICKHEAD BOXING REQUIRES MENTAL STRENGTH NOT FUCKING MATHS LOL GTFOH YOU STUPID CUNT.
bertelliish 3 months ago
@bertelliish You're not getting it. I'm simply saying they are the best at problem solving. It makes them like scientists in the ring. They call the sport "the sweet science" for a reason. They're athletes are performing really well at the Olympics and they are starting to become an excellent place to find professional basketball players. In the olympics, their boxing team easily out performed the American boxing team. Thailand did really well too. They're just getting into the sport too.
HeavyD2544 3 months ago
@HeavyD2544 i'm sorry to be such a dick head yeah you correct, they just getting into the sport. Everybody has to start somewhere.
bertelliish 3 months ago
@bertelliish Thanks man. The problem in Asia is they are really into kickboxing. Its a way of life in southeast Asia. Boxing is just becoming a major player in the fight game there. Give them 10 or 20 years, and you'll see a lot more Manny Pacquiao type fighters come along. Either way, the sport is still dominated by black and Latino boxers. No argument there. Pacquiao is an exception right now.
HeavyD2544 3 months ago
@HeavyD2544 pacquiao is not just an exception he is simply a boxing dynamo. I like pac(who doesn't) even when i first saw him i was like hey is this guy for real!! I can see a bit of a bruce lee type of fighting spirit he is extraordinary. I put him right up there with floyd mayweather, and who knows he may very well beat him!!....Boxing is a funny game. If they ever meet it could go either way.
bertelliish 3 months ago
@HeavyD2544 Sorry to burst your bubble you asians will always be the weaker sex lol....This has been like this since your granpappys time. You are not athletic or masculine like blacks and whites. From as far back as i can remember asians are not built for sports.....That is why you are intrinsically smaller and possess small dicks lol.............Blacks and whites are kings of the earth !! Thats why when whites and blacks mingle they produce exceptional breeds of human specis.
bertelliish 2 months ago
@bertelliish I'm not Asian dumbass. You fail as usual.
HeavyD2544 2 months ago
@HeavyD2544 thats what they all say lol
bertelliish 2 months ago
@bertelliish Of course we all thought you failed.
HeavyD2544 2 months ago
@bertelliish hahaha, well that was different.
MURKYDEEP100 2 months ago
@bertelliish lol you are fucking retarted.how old are you 9? your stupid comments should make you feel weak as a human.
yoshitoraakuma 2 months ago
@bertelliish arabs are not asian. seems you lack mental strength yourself :P
KlashaB12 3 months ago
@KlashaB12 nobody said asians are arabs you weak cunt lol
bertelliish 3 months ago
@bertelliish lool you wasteman you where obviously saying it to prince naseem and his an arab. so shut up and about asians being weak thats the dumbest thing ive ever herd when you look at most of your products what does it say? "made in china" look at the quick development china and japan went threw and asians are still weak? lool go kill yourself.
KlashaB12 2 months ago
Emmanuel Steward have the best excuses to why hes fighter lost: If he would, but he didn't, i knew he was, he should of train hard ...etc.. Naseem Hamed nothing but a show man, u look good when ur fight average fighters but u fight great fighters, forget about the all time greats, u don't have skills to win.
eljrclave8 4 months ago
Naz loses to Barrera 99 out of 100 times.
imzato321 5 months ago
@imzato321 Barrera loses to Naz 99 of 100 times.
jason60152 4 months ago
@jason60152 Naz loses to Barrera 100 out of 100 times.
HeavyD2544 2 months ago
@HeavyD2544 not in my eyes.
jason60152 2 months ago
What Emmanuel Steward is saying is that Hamed getting trounced had nothing to do with him. Ride or die Manny, you can't take the glory of winning then bail when it comes to coping with defeat.
eltubster14 5 months ago
EMMUEL STEWARD IS WACK
chinamonk 5 months ago
naaaz u was not in ur day from 36 fight this is sport charge !!!
joaquinnaaz 6 months ago
best 4 ever u naaz why cuz i know why u lose i don care about this man u not concentrate and u lose some wieght and that was tactics fight only but why u best conviedence !!!!!power!!!!hands down !!!!!funny!!! dancing!!!!and i know u best and u can beat barera not cuz i love u nop cuz i watch ur all fights and still great fight
joaquinnaaz 6 months ago
@a99999999999987 Bunce is always talking rubbish, though about 20% of the time he talks sense. Hamed is never gonna fight Barrera, or anyone else for that matter. He was about the undefeated record. Once that went he became ordinary and lost his aura of invincibility. An example of this was Muhammad Ali because when Ali lost to Joe Frazier he was never the same fighter and had to adjust his style. But the bigger question is... was Hamed a legend? Yes he was.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
naz was exposed by barrera lets be honest. hamed was exciting yes, but he had little substance. he would have lost to all the best featherweights of the era. in fact it was best for him he was exposed by barrera and not morales or marquez. i think both of those guys would have Knocked hamed out.
axebattler1 8 months ago 19
@axebattler1 No I don't think Barrera would've knocked Hamed out. The way Barrera punched Hamed seemed like he could've knocked out Hamed but it was Hamed's lack of balance which made the punches look more hurtful. The Hamed which fought Steve Robinson and Jose Badello would've beaten Barrera. I would also honestly say that Hamed was a better and harder puncher than Mike Tyson.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD i did'nt say Barrera would have knocked out hamed. they actually faught and obviously barrera did'nt win by KO.......
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 Regardless, Barrera fought to a set plan to catch Hamed with counters after Hamed had committed himself. Had Hamed givn Barrera more respect then he would've known what to expect at least. It's also worth watching the Calvo fight because that's the only time he gave his opponent any respect but it resulted in a dull fight. Hamed was a showman and ko artist. The greatest and hardest Featherweight puncher of all-time. That's enough for legendary status.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD "legendary status" only truely comes from BEATING the best of your time. from beating Hall of famers. you conveniently skipped what i said twice now. do you think hamed would have beaten Morales or marquez? keep in mind the fact that style wise both of those fighters were naturaly the type of fighters barrera became when he dominated hamed. analize hamed without emotion, with only your boxing knowledge. i know its hard i have had my favorites and its hard to be objective.
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 You just heard what "legendary" trainer Emmanuel Steward say that if Hamed had trained like he did earlier in his career then he would've been beaten Barrea. NOT "could've" but WOULD'VE!. I'm a Hamed fan but I'm actually more of a orthodox boxing fan. I prefer Floyd Mayweather jr over Naseem Hamed. Like I said before, the Hamed that fought Steve Robinson and Jose Badello would've beaten Barrera, Marquez and Morales.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD lots of ifs, would'ves in there...the problem is we need to go on real evidence. he DID fight barrera and was not competative. he retired after that fight. returning only once i believe. showing his passion for the sport was taken away by the loss. not what the greats do. theres also videos where stewart admits hamed ducked marquez. marquez was hameds #1 contender for yrs but the sanctioning body allowed him to avoid it. showing hamed and his people were afraid of marquez
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 Hamed did dodge Marquez but only because Marquez wasn't a marquee fighter. No-one in the states really knew him so it made sense for him not to fight him. That's probably the reason why the governing body allowed him to dodge Marquez. If's and buts are in the case of many fighters. Mike Tyson has a alot of if's and buts. Would a young Tyson have beaten the same Lennox Lewis of 2002? I don't think so. And yet when Tyson lost to Douglas he was far over-rated.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD he dodged marquez on the advice of his people. they knew he was too dangerous. the sanctioning body allowed him to duck marq because hamed was the more famous and higher paid fighter. making him a better representative of the belt and more importantly allowing them to get more money out of him for sanctioning fees. the sanctioning body also understood he would have little to no chance against marquez. thus they would loose out on the "starpower" hamed braught in.
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 What you said don't make sense one bit... your trying to tell me that Hamed ducked Marquez and instead fought Barrera? Barrera was more dangerous than Marquez... and if you look at Marquez's record he wasn't as good as you make out.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD Marquez was way more dangerous then Barrera. most importantly thats what the hardcore boxing puplic thought at the time. also the time he fought barrera was after a few yrs of ducking marquez. the reason hamed faught barrera was because the feeling in the boxing community was that barrera was'nt the same after the 1st morales fight. fighters are often not the same after those kind of wars.
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 No... Hamed fought Barrera because it was the bigger fight and the better opponent. Let's just end this debate.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD this was'nt a debate it was an education. if you wanna drop out of school thats fine. when you're older you'll regret it though. but i'll be here to help if you need it
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 Allah-hu-akbar! Naseem Hamed is a legend! A future hall of famer. When he gets inducted then you'll go into rehab for being insane. He was a great fighter. Bye NOOB.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@NazhitsREALLYHARD ahh now i see what this is about.....
axebattler1 6 months ago
@axebattler1 You are wrong friend it was Marquez who avoided him. Marquez was his mandotary challeger for about sixteen months and who would not fight him. In the case of Barrea and Morales they ducked when he was in his early twenties, when he was simply phenomenal.
Akshirwa 2 months ago
@Akshirwa so in his early twenties(when he was fighting nobodies) he was phenomenal then in his mid twenties when he was fighting much better competition suddenly he was no longer phenominal? could'nt it just be that he was never really that good so as his comp. improved he performed worse and worse? and when FINALLY he faught a great fighter he was totally outclassed? is'nt that the simple truth of it? what do you think would have happened if he faught marquez and moralez at any age?
axebattler1 2 months ago
@axebattler1 So true. Name any big name fighter that Hamed fought during his undefeated streak. You wouldn't be able to pick out a name at all 'cause majority of them were just nobodies. Only Barrera was the only big name and he lost to him.
SARxAphexArcade 2 months ago
@SARxAphexArcade I could not have said it better myself
crungen5 2 months ago
@axebattler1 Yes Hamed lacked grit, desire and passion. He should've fought Barrera again, Morales, Marquez and later perhaps Pac-man. But he is a legend. One of the greatest punchers in boxing history. There is talk of him being inducted into the Hall of Fame in the next few years. Can't wait to see him walk up and accept his induction. lol
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@axebattler1 Hamed's poor performances against the likes of Kevin Kelley and Augie Sanchez were because he didn't use his jab effectively, and just went out to knock his opponent out. Had he used his jab and stayed more elusive rather than "flat footed" then he would'nt have got caught by "half" the punches that he eventually got tagged with. That is why I say that the Hamed which fought Robinson and Badello would've beaten the mexican trio. That Hamed was FAST and POWERFUL! Rare combination.
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@axebattler1 You say friend that he fought nobodies in his early twenties, I disagree with you. Here are some of the so called nobodies that he faced Steve Robinson, Manuel Medina, Tom "Boom Boom" Johnson, Wilfredo Vazquez, Daniel Alicea, Jose Badillo and many others. They were all good fighters.
Akshirwa 2 months ago
@axebattler1 Check out this link Prince Naseem Hamed Did Not Duck The Big Names
Akshirwa 2 months ago
@Akshirwa Yeah he did.
crowley0312 2 months ago
@crowley0312 could you please show me proof?
Akshirwa 2 months ago
@crowley0312 Could you please show me proof?
Akshirwa 2 months ago
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Akshirwa 2 months ago
@axebattler1 The naz who fought barrera was an accident waiting to happen, steward and suraez had tampered with his unique style, an it had dreadfull affects. They had made him plant is feet more and get more power out of is punches.This inturn made him get hit alot more, than he had under ingle. You just have to wach naz vs steve robinson, to see how much different his style was early on in his career. If naz had not started to rely on power to much, he would of beat barrera with ease.
barmyarmy3 6 months ago
@axebattler1 Perhaps at that point in his career he lacked substance. But for most of his career he was incredibly inventive and varied.
Many of the most effective fighters in K-1, Muay Thai and mma switch stances to prove a more confusing fighter offensively. Naz was pretty much the only boxer to do it since Hagler. People worship Hagler for it but crucify Naz for it, it's dumb.
Boxing is the slowest sport to evolve...
jitteryjoe 6 months ago
@jitteryjoe Wrong. Ricardo Lopez, an all-time great with whom Hamed doesn't even compare, went from right to left and back again quite easily. And he fought during the same era as Hamed...but as I mentioned, was far superior to Hamed in every way. Lopez was truly an all-time great. Hamed was only regarded as such by his most ardent supporters, who are terribly deluded.
Kedbuka 4 months ago
@Kedbuka How was he vastly superior to Naz in every way if he didn't win any of the titles Naz did and didn't have as much punch as Naz did?
That's 2 ways he's inferior right there.
jitteryjoe 4 months ago
@axebattler1 Naz had an iron chin he wouldent get knocked out and Naz had called Marquez and Morales out they refused to fight him. If any fighter brawled with Naz they would of get knocked out, thats why Barrea boxed Naz he new fighting would lead to him getting K.Od.
Khan12078 4 months ago
@Khan12078 marquez was a better more technical boxer then barrera. it was his natural style. on top of his style he was a harder puncher then barrera. imo he would have hit naz with the same type of shots barrera landed only harder. you need to read up on marquez vs naz. marquez was naz' #1 contender for yrs. normaly a sanctioning body requires that you defend against your mandatory. they let naz avoid it for yrs. why? because the hardcore boxing world knew naz would loose.
axebattler1 4 months ago
@axebattler1 when Naz agreed after Marquez had a 3 month lay off, Marquez refused. Barrea never hurt Naz anyway, Naz had super human power. All imm saying is if Marquez trades with Naz he would hit the canvas, so hed need to box like Barrea did.
Khan12078 4 months ago
@axebattler1 wooah...i'd rank Barrera ahead of Morales and Marquez. Barrera was no joke, of course either were the other three, but imo Barrera was the cream of the crop...
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@axebattler1 Its odd to me that you didnt list Pacquaio, Barrera's very next fight was against pacquaio and pac schooled him real bad
dlc85007 4 months ago
@dlc85007 if i listed every boxer in history that could have beaten Hamed easily i'd need about 10,000 characters to work with..... also, i see hamed morales barrera and to a lesser extent marquez as being from a slightly older featherweight era then the one pacman stepped into. pacman like many other greats stepped up to clean out aging past their prime fighters. it would be like comparing de la hoya to chavez. just because de la hoya beat chavez fairly easily does not mean he's greater.
axebattler1 4 months ago
@dlc85007 also, pacquiao was NOT barrera's very next fight. he faught at least 4 other fights between hamed and pac. one of them was another war with morales. my guess is you are not a hardcore boxing fan but a fan that goes from big fight to big fight only. and thus judges careers based on limited info. not trying to be mean or insulting its just most boxing "fans" are like this
axebattler1 4 months ago
@axebattler1 You are right and wrong, i just looked it up, it went Barrera vs Morales then hammed then Morales then Pacquaio. I looked it up on Wiki.... suck it
dlc85007 4 months ago
@dlc85007 i bet you had to look it up. i'm right and wrong? i know where i was right, barreras very next fight was not pacquiao. but you did'nt show where i was wrong. in fact you were wrong and wrong again. it was barrera v. hamed, barrera v. sanchez, barrera v. morales, barrera v. tapia, barrera v. kelly then barrera v. pacquiao.
axebattler1 4 months ago
@axebattler1 wtf you talkin about, didnt i just say i looked it up and didnt you just have the same answer before, but my answer still remains the same to you objection, suck itttttttttttttt
dlc85007 4 months ago
@dlc85007 just answer where i was wrong before. now don't go into allah akbar like the last guy i got into a hamed argument with. where was i wrong?
axebattler1 4 months ago
@axebattler1 ah relax man im just giving you shit, you mad bro
dlc85007 4 months ago
@dlc85007 another easy win.....
axebattler1 4 months ago
@axebattler1 congrats bro but something tells me you only had a couple wins because of how much time you bothered with it, anyway check out my 1st knock out i did yesterday on a light heavy weight, he was 184Lbs (85kg) and im only 154Lbs (70KG)
dlc85007 4 months ago
@dlc85007 hahaha I was reading your comments and I see you got other people watching you knock out a light weight amatuer.I see you lost the debate but won the fight.....nice left hook by the way.... baby Frazier........:)
jason60152 4 months ago
@jason60152 haha yeah the debate, tuff break, thanks man, im getting alot of people at work coming up and shaking my hand for knocking out that dude last saturday, im still extremely pumped over it, i put that shit of facebook and everything and now i get the elderly ladies :P
dlc85007 4 months ago
@axebattler1 I don't think he would have been knocked out. Naz had a terrific chin. That's one thing which people overlook about him. The guy really knew how to take a punch when he wasn't so elusive.
thegiftedmedia 4 months ago
@axebattler1 BRO U TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUTTA MY MOUTH!! FUCK YEAH!!
crungen5 3 months ago
@axebattler1 hamed is like darchinyan in some ways... hands way out wide like he is flying all open to be hit. and I think barrera was probly the lesser of morales and marquez and barrera trio. Also as he got older if he tried to move out of that weight he would be fighting castillo? then he would get his head ripped off
TheBenballs99 3 months ago
@TheBenballs99 similar to darchinyan in that he has an improvisational style yes. and because of that improve style neither could deal with technically great boxers(barrera and Nonito). theres a reason trainers don't teach fighters to fight like hamed/darchinyan....because it does not work at the highest levels. morales and marquez had KILLER power in their right hands(a south paws worst nightmare) hamed would have been put to sleep
axebattler1 3 months ago
@axebattler1 Hamed had KILLER power in his left hand and his unorthodox style would have put Morales or Marquez on they ass like they been before.Hamed is from a different breed.
jason60152 3 months ago
@jason60152 sure he was sure he was.....
axebattler1 3 months ago
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jbott614 3 months ago
very intresting to hear steward say if naz was 1005 he could of beat barrera so basically gone on to be in the top 100 or even 50 all time greats, i think for pure talent he's one of the best ever.
sjewitt22 9 months ago 8
@sjewitt22 he was remarkably talented but his problem was discipline "outside the ring". Don't get me wrong, he did his training BUT he took his opponents lightly and it is was that aspect of him which was most loathed by the british public & media. But to answer the 2 toughest questions... Was Hamed beatable? Yes. Is Hamed a boxing legend? Yes
NazhitsREALLYHARD 6 months ago
@sjewitt22
"Pure talent" means jack shit when evaluating a fighter's legacy. How many great fighters did he beat? How convincingly did he beat them? Those are the only questions that matter...and in Hamed's case, he fought one great fighter and was soundly outclassed, and struggled against almost all his top level opponents. Hamed's best wins came against mid to low level opposition...that is not the CV of "one of the best ever".
garethac81 4 months ago
@garethac81 I'm a Hamed fan and I admit most of what you say is true! Believe that people who say Barrera would always beat Hamed is bullshit though! If Hamed had not underestimated Marco and made some defensive adjustments instead of the one sided beatdown we saw we would have seen an amazing fight perhaps one to put in the same category as the Vasquez-Marquez bouts or Gatti- Ward fights. Hamed had withering power at his weight and would have loved to see him have his hands higher
88ItalianStalian 3 months ago
Naz what a waste of a great talent, the guy was destined for greatness, untill he let himself go badly and started relying way to much on is power. You only have to watch is footwork against barrera, and against steve robinson. To realise how much is style and changed and how dependable he had become on is big shots. An this was is downfall, course soon as he fought a world class fighter, he couldnt connect with the shots to make is power usefull.
barmyarmy3 9 months ago
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barmyarmy3 9 months ago
ha ha !! karma bitch , hamed used to try humiliate his opponents, against barrera he was humilliated beyond belief !!
ribhkum 9 months ago
simple as this hamed wasnt good enough at this level
chris69xxx 10 months ago
The Prince was NOT in shape. The hell man!
brboldiesshow 10 months ago
this is ancient, it sounds like from 2006/07 times
RurickTheGreat 10 months ago
No one had swag like nas
KROGER299 11 months ago
He didnt go to jail for leaving scene of an accident, he went to jail for causing the accident with wreckless driving, in which he seriously injured someone.
funguysmall 11 months ago
If he was more focused he would have been one of the greats,
maju786 11 months ago