For a long time instructors taught students to have the feeling you were “sitting” on a bar stool. I always believed we should have been teaching people to feel as though you were “leaning” back on a stool. The last thing you would ever want to do is sit in golf. Sitting will cause the golf club to swing too level to the ground in the downswing, and you will have a tendency to hit the ground behind the golf ball. w w w (dot) golferbreak80 (dot) c0m
Tiger is a great putter, not a great ball striker. he misses many fairways, gets in trouble a lot. his strength gets him outta trouble and his putter saves his rear.
Hogan is/was and will always be # 1 . He did it all on his own. Tiger had lessons up the gazoo. schooled and re-schooled. he goes sour on his swing all the time. Just watch how pissed he gets when he blows a sshot.
Hello 1totomato I just have to tell you the Tiger IS a graet ball striker trust me on that.He hits it So PUREEEE now stop talking mince and go and watch him on the range and when you see him hit the ball you'll be amazed infact you 1tontomato will be BALLAMAZED..............spagetti ballamazed!
Something cool about Tiger and Hogan....their clues of technique in equipment. Tiger has his footwork pointed out on the bottom of Nike golf shoes with the horseshoes, and when you take an old Hogan Apex Equalizer wedge and put it at address on a flat surface, hold it at address than take the pressure off the shaft (the pressure holding it in place in a rotational sense) it rolls back on the hosel with the grooves remaining level.Level grooves and shaft rotation in relation to plane(LEARNTRAP)
Tiger has SO MUCH ability that it does'nt matter if he misses a fairway.Due to his incredible imagination and stregnth physical and more importantly mental he continues to win despite the old worn out cliches of "you'll never win if you're not good with the driver".Last years WIN in the US OPEN is testament to this.He bunkered his tee shot hit into thick rough with his 2nd then produced an amazing wedge shot followed by a pressure putt of immense proportions!
Tiger is not a great ball striker because his swing is not great, Tiger's swing is good and so is his ball striking. Tiger cannot be compared to Hogan, not even close. Hogan is untouchable, no will ever come close to Hogan. The reason Tiger wins is not because of his ball striking or his mental toughness, Tiger wins because he can putt! Tiger mental toughness and concentration will never be as strong as Hogan's, period.
Agreed totally. Tiger will never be as good as Hogan. Tiger was schooled & re-schooled. he misses lotsa fairways, Tiger has a Reverse C. He has had knee problems and that Reverse C will trouble his back. Tiger can putt epecially when it matters most. Hogan did it all on his own.
Tiger is always complaining about camera shutter noises, give me a break. Where's his concentration, pretty soon he's going to ask people to stop breathing.
At the British Open in 1953, one of the officials apologized to Ben. The official said, "We shouldn't had a train pass by while you were putting." Hogan said, "What train."
Hogan was the greatest concentrator of the golf game as well.
See my Youtube page dedicated to Hogan, particularly the video titled Hogan & Fr. Keller.
Hogan was the finest ball striker of all time, i honestly feel this is the truth of it. But, how in Gods name can anyone have such a pronounced hip slide motion - and still achieve that massive lag with his hands and wrists? I know it's a stupid question in a sense, rather like asking Leonardo Da Vinci how he painted Mona Lisa. Its the eye of genius, and we can only imagine as we look on in awe!
Well, it's because he is not actually doing what he is describing in the video when he makes his real swing. You will notice that his hips brace and stay back while his arms move backwards and downwards giving him the great lag. His perception of what he is doing does not match what is actually taking place. This instruction is poison. You will hit weak slices if you spin your body this badly at the beginning of the swing.
Regardless of whom or what you were responding to, I think it sums it up when Nicklaus was asked if Tiger was the best ball striker he'd ever seen, his response came without hesitation: Ben Hogan.
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I didn't mention ball striking either.Look the fact is Tiger has won more majors and pga tour events than Hogan so it doesn't matter even if Hogan was the best ball striker the only record people care about is wins. So if your the sort of person who likes to talk more about what angle the ball left the clubface I feel sorry for you.
Are you aware that Hogan won mostly after a head on collision with a greyhound bus? He almost died. Tiger is a phenomenal specimen, but he certainly isn't playing in anywhere near the same amount of pain that Hogan played in. For majors, well Nicklaus for example had to beat Palmer,Player,Trevino and Watson. Who has Tiger Woods got to beat? Any major Tiger doesn't win, it's a toss up amongst the worlds top 100 to win. No golfer has stepped up--there is no solid #2. Thanks, have a nice day
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I never said anything about Tiger being better than Nicklaus. And you obviously think it is cool to play in pain. You are pulling the words out of your arse,all I said was Tiger is better than Hogan and not anything else.
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For a long time instructors taught students to have the feeling you were “sitting” on a bar stool. I always believed we should have been teaching people to feel as though you were “leaning” back on a stool. The last thing you would ever want to do is sit in golf. Sitting will cause the golf club to swing too level to the ground in the downswing, and you will have a tendency to hit the ground behind the golf ball. w w w (dot) golferbreak80 (dot) c0m
aaron0551 2 years ago
Tiger is a great putter, not a great ball striker. he misses many fairways, gets in trouble a lot. his strength gets him outta trouble and his putter saves his rear.
Hogan is/was and will always be # 1 . He did it all on his own. Tiger had lessons up the gazoo. schooled and re-schooled. he goes sour on his swing all the time. Just watch how pissed he gets when he blows a sshot.
acershund 2 years ago
guys, they never played against each other so nobody knows who is better.
yahoooutstanding 2 years ago
Hello 1totomato I just have to tell you the Tiger IS a graet ball striker trust me on that.He hits it So PUREEEE now stop talking mince and go and watch him on the range and when you see him hit the ball you'll be amazed infact you 1tontomato will be BALLAMAZED..............spagetti ballamazed!
BillKelly13 2 years ago
Something cool about Tiger and Hogan....their clues of technique in equipment. Tiger has his footwork pointed out on the bottom of Nike golf shoes with the horseshoes, and when you take an old Hogan Apex Equalizer wedge and put it at address on a flat surface, hold it at address than take the pressure off the shaft (the pressure holding it in place in a rotational sense) it rolls back on the hosel with the grooves remaining level.Level grooves and shaft rotation in relation to plane(LEARNTRAP)
DocCrunch 2 years ago
Tiger has SO MUCH ability that it does'nt matter if he misses a fairway.Due to his incredible imagination and stregnth physical and more importantly mental he continues to win despite the old worn out cliches of "you'll never win if you're not good with the driver".Last years WIN in the US OPEN is testament to this.He bunkered his tee shot hit into thick rough with his 2nd then produced an amazing wedge shot followed by a pressure putt of immense proportions!
BillKelly13 2 years ago
Tiger is not a great ball striker because his swing is not great, Tiger's swing is good and so is his ball striking. Tiger cannot be compared to Hogan, not even close. Hogan is untouchable, no will ever come close to Hogan. The reason Tiger wins is not because of his ball striking or his mental toughness, Tiger wins because he can putt! Tiger mental toughness and concentration will never be as strong as Hogan's, period.
1tontomato 2 years ago
Agreed totally. Tiger will never be as good as Hogan. Tiger was schooled & re-schooled. he misses lotsa fairways, Tiger has a Reverse C. He has had knee problems and that Reverse C will trouble his back. Tiger can putt epecially when it matters most. Hogan did it all on his own.
acershund 2 years ago
Tiger is always complaining about camera shutter noises, give me a break. Where's his concentration, pretty soon he's going to ask people to stop breathing.
At the British Open in 1953, one of the officials apologized to Ben. The official said, "We shouldn't had a train pass by while you were putting." Hogan said, "What train."
Hogan was the greatest concentrator of the golf game as well.
See my Youtube page dedicated to Hogan, particularly the video titled Hogan & Fr. Keller.
Cheers!
1tontomato 2 years ago
Hogan was the finest ball striker of all time, i honestly feel this is the truth of it. But, how in Gods name can anyone have such a pronounced hip slide motion - and still achieve that massive lag with his hands and wrists? I know it's a stupid question in a sense, rather like asking Leonardo Da Vinci how he painted Mona Lisa. Its the eye of genius, and we can only imagine as we look on in awe!
raceching 3 years ago
Well, it's because he is not actually doing what he is describing in the video when he makes his real swing. You will notice that his hips brace and stay back while his arms move backwards and downwards giving him the great lag. His perception of what he is doing does not match what is actually taking place. This instruction is poison. You will hit weak slices if you spin your body this badly at the beginning of the swing.
wsop2005 2 years ago
best iron striker of all time imo.
mikefotC 4 years ago 3
Best golfer of all time. He came back from hell to play again, his car accident for all the chops.
678180 4 years ago 7
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wrong Tiger is better
tomsta3 3 years ago
I guess you haven't seen Tiger hit errant tee shots. He does it all the time. Heck Nicklaus was more accurate with his driver.
jwsmith00 3 years ago 5
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did I mention tee shots......no. did I mention driver.....no. I was replying to 678180's comment.
tomsta3 3 years ago
Regardless of whom or what you were responding to, I think it sums it up when Nicklaus was asked if Tiger was the best ball striker he'd ever seen, his response came without hesitation: Ben Hogan.
jwsmith00 3 years ago 3
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I didn't mention ball striking either.Look the fact is Tiger has won more majors and pga tour events than Hogan so it doesn't matter even if Hogan was the best ball striker the only record people care about is wins. So if your the sort of person who likes to talk more about what angle the ball left the clubface I feel sorry for you.
tomsta3 3 years ago
Are you aware that Hogan won mostly after a head on collision with a greyhound bus? He almost died. Tiger is a phenomenal specimen, but he certainly isn't playing in anywhere near the same amount of pain that Hogan played in. For majors, well Nicklaus for example had to beat Palmer,Player,Trevino and Watson. Who has Tiger Woods got to beat? Any major Tiger doesn't win, it's a toss up amongst the worlds top 100 to win. No golfer has stepped up--there is no solid #2. Thanks, have a nice day
jwsmith00 3 years ago
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I never said anything about Tiger being better than Nicklaus. And you obviously think it is cool to play in pain. You are pulling the words out of your arse,all I said was Tiger is better than Hogan and not anything else.
tomsta3 3 years ago
Whatever you say
jwsmith00 3 years ago 3
no solid #2 because #1 is unreachable
DCUPtoejuice 2 years ago
Makes it look so easy.Still the benchmark. Any computer wizzards out there that could dub over what he's saying?
802471497 4 years ago
I'm not sure I qualify for a computer wizard, but there is another video posted here with the sound.
razorbacker80 4 years ago
Top bloke, many thanks. Tim
802471497 4 years ago
Without sounding like a know it all, Hogans book The Modern Fundamentals would be a good start! 2nd hand probably through Abe Books on line.
stevenlap 4 years ago
I'd murder for a golf swing like that.
mbrooksay 4 years ago
Sound would be a bonus in this case. Hogan is showing you everything necessary, except hours of practice, to strike the ball consistantly.
villagec3 4 years ago
"THE GREAT BEN HOGAN"
maremabe 4 years ago
need sound ! HOGAN - 1 of the best ever
fnlost 4 years ago
yeah dude thats from shells wonderful world of golf, Hogan Vs. Snead.
robsbobsy 4 years ago
Ben Hogan was a runt
slappy0077 4 years ago
I met Byron Nelson and I briefly spoke to Sam Snead. Hogan is the only one of that great triumverate who I never saw in person.
David50s 5 years ago
A Legend....Sound would be perfect
str8rippinnn 5 years ago
Thank you for sharing this video. It's really cool
jcortizo187 5 years ago
Sound would be nice but after 6 months I guess the dude won't help us out. Well at least I own the dvd that it was ripped from.
mp52 5 years ago
Many Thanks for sharing this!
ilovedachangjin111 5 years ago
yeah thats big never really seen much footage of hogan around
hpractitioner 5 years ago
you legend, ive been lookin all over for this footage, would of liked the sound though. Thanks man
theguythat 5 years ago
Where's the sound?
boogity 5 years ago