- these muzlim & pro-muzlim protesters used threats of violence to prevent her from telling the truth about muzlims & izlam, ( which we all know anyway, - ie. that izlam is a hate-driven, misogynistic, pedophillic cult )
-of all the cults in the World, izlam is surely the weakest & most frightened, - - because it fears the TRUTH & CRITICISM more than anything. izlam will always try to muzzle its critics, - because there is NO REFUTING the TRUTH. izlam is a JOKE. muhammad was a ;- - child-rapist - murderer - liar - thief - adulterer - rapist - polygamist
Hitler would be acceptable to allow to speak in a society of free men. It is people like Hitler that would try to take away your ability to speak. Your theoretical Hitler is histories theoretical Martin Luther King. You can lable speech any way you want to try and ban it. Today's "hate speech" lable is no different than yesterday's "blasphamy" label.
I'm all for freedom of speech, but I don't consider hate speech as freedom of speech. Ann Coulter has a history of hate speech which I do not think should be permitted here in Canada. If she wants to express her opinions without spreading hate, as much as I would disagree with here positions, I think she has the right to express them. I don't think her comments at Western helped the situation any either, so yes she is to blame in part for some of the outrage seen in Ottawa.
@vnorthru freedom of speech is not designed to protect kind speech. Kind speech does not need protection. It is designed to protect all speech including that which you might think is unacceptable. Your opionion doesn't matter. If it did then it would be no different than if someone else deemed your speech unacceptable
I agree that freedom of speech is there to protect controversial speech and I'm not opposed to controversial speech, I'm opposed to hate speech. I will give there is a very fine line between the two but when you are attacking a group it is hate speech and that should not be protected by freedom of speech, voicing controversial opinions should be protected by freedom of speech.
As far as Ann Coulter goes, some of what she says, though I disagree with it, should be protected by freedom of speech, but she has been known to cross the line into hate speech which is not protected by freedom of speech. I don't agree with silencing her, though if she crosses the line in Canada I would agree with her facing charges. As for UofO, her people canceled it not the university and so far all the reasons they gave for security were not substantiated. she silenced herself
"Gays are as bad as Sodom and Gommorrah!" WTF. So you should persecute anyone who is not like you, though they can do nothing about it. And don't try telling me it's a choice, it has been shown to be genetic (and I am speaking as a geneticist) that is a multifactorial trait (means there are multiple loci as well as environmental conditions).
I hate to be the stick in the sand for you guys but Canada has laws against hate speech which is exaclty what Coulter is spreading. Do you agree that all Muslims should be banned from airports? I hope not. The flying carpet and camel comment was just plain rude and inappropriate. I don't get how so many people can side with such a prejudiced view.
@JosephPockaj I totally agree. I had a video up stating my view on Ann Coulter and why I did not want her at my school (I'm a uOttawa student) and you should have seen the hate I received. I ended up taking it down because it was so hurtful. Being called a left-wing fascist, stupid bitch who just wants to hear herself speak, hilter supporter, dimwitted 19yr old, all because I denounced racism. Thank you for having a brain.
It's sad how they talk of free speech but then attack people like you for your opinion. People have been attacking me as well when I only try to state the truth.
@hilarylambz Ann is a media slut.... Her and people like her are so righting that they see anything from centre left as extreme left. You should have left the video up... If peeps like Ann get to have a voice, as misguided as it is, you should to.... When no one will stand-up for you, you are left with only one other choice....
Canada does NOT have laws against hate speech. The only laws against spoken or written comments are Slander and Defamation. Other than that, anything is fair game.
Muslims get away with inciting hatred and violence. I'll be you have no problems with that.
@JosephPockaj - Freedom of Speech is not about being free to only say what the majority agrees with, it is about allowing people to express their opinions, even though some may find them offensive. Allowing someone to have their say is not the same as siding with them. I do not agree with Ann Coulter's opinions, I think she is a bigot and a brat. But, I want to know what my enemies are thinking, not shut them up. I do not allow Ann Coulter to do my thinking for me. Fascists shut people up.
@mikespulligan Yes, but these students pay tuition, so it's their university, and if they don't want someone there spreading hate speech, it's there choice. Ann could have stood on the sidewalk just off of campus and still gave her speech.
If I was a Muslim or black, or a Jew, etc, should I have to allow someone to come in my home and speak against my people and a hateful way?? We just don't condone hateful behavior in Canada, and the paying students spoke their minds
It's not their university, since it's taxpayer subsidised. That means the taxpayers own it. I'm surprised you mention muslims and jews in the same sentence, muslims are famous for hating jews, homosexuals, women, and anything that is not islam. "We just don't condone hateful behavior in Canada" is vague and meaningless. The law is more specific. You may not promote genocide and you may not incite others to hate. You are allowed to hate whatever you want and express that. We call it Free Speech.
the point in having apriori principles is to avoid "taking a side" as you put it. When you confuse standing up for universal principles with "taking a side" then implicitly you are "taking a side" and therefore abondoning the most basic element of fairness. In doing so you wield a double edged sword via empowering the manichean mob mentality.
BTW, if Canada could outlaw "spreading hate", then everyone would be in jail.
With NARROW-MINDEDNESS and BIGOTRY U of O students REJECT the freedoms in Canada. People DIED defending FREEDOM OF SPEECH but because YOU disagree with someone you think they shouldn't have the RIGHT TO SPEAK.
You have the right NOT TO LISTEN to someone with whom you disagree but you DO NOT have the right to stop them from speaking.
Students at the University of Ottawa have shown their INTOLERANCE and HATRED by not allowing Freedom of Speech to occur at a Canadian university. As a Canadian I'm ashamed of you and humiliated by your behaviour. You're SPOILED BRATS who don't care that people GAVE THEIR LIVES so you could enjoy freedom. You've negated those deaths and dishonoured every man and woman who worked, fought or died to give us all the freedom you've rejected.
I completely agree. To these people, tolerance only applies to what they want it to. They are doing exactly what Fascists have done for a hundred years. Your comment was even spammed...
That's why I love Canada, we don't let idiots dictate our views!
MrCrocodilehunter 1 month ago
"We Canadians just adore free speech, as long as we agree with what is being said."
What a joke.
reddog8800 1 month ago
mike fancie is a socialist
canadianna21206 1 year ago
Anne Coulter says it like it is.
muzlims HATE the truth.
- these muzlim & pro-muzlim protesters used threats of violence to prevent her from telling the truth about muzlims & izlam, ( which we all know anyway, - ie. that izlam is a hate-driven, misogynistic, pedophillic cult )
- Canada, - HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME...
MADmohAMiONaJIHAD 1 year ago 2
MADmohAMiONaJIHAD 1 year ago 3
Hitler would be acceptable to allow to speak in a society of free men. It is people like Hitler that would try to take away your ability to speak. Your theoretical Hitler is histories theoretical Martin Luther King. You can lable speech any way you want to try and ban it. Today's "hate speech" lable is no different than yesterday's "blasphamy" label.
samslaught 1 year ago 2
yeah
salbella50 1 year ago
how about we invite hitler next and yell "freedom of speech" is that acceptable? then why is it acceptable for ms.coulter ??
hash52 1 year ago
I'm all for freedom of speech, but I don't consider hate speech as freedom of speech. Ann Coulter has a history of hate speech which I do not think should be permitted here in Canada. If she wants to express her opinions without spreading hate, as much as I would disagree with here positions, I think she has the right to express them. I don't think her comments at Western helped the situation any either, so yes she is to blame in part for some of the outrage seen in Ottawa.
vnorthru 1 year ago 2
@vnorthru freedom of speech is not designed to protect kind speech. Kind speech does not need protection. It is designed to protect all speech including that which you might think is unacceptable. Your opionion doesn't matter. If it did then it would be no different than if someone else deemed your speech unacceptable
samslaught 1 year ago
@samslaught
I agree that freedom of speech is there to protect controversial speech and I'm not opposed to controversial speech, I'm opposed to hate speech. I will give there is a very fine line between the two but when you are attacking a group it is hate speech and that should not be protected by freedom of speech, voicing controversial opinions should be protected by freedom of speech.
vnorthru 1 year ago
@samslaught
As far as Ann Coulter goes, some of what she says, though I disagree with it, should be protected by freedom of speech, but she has been known to cross the line into hate speech which is not protected by freedom of speech. I don't agree with silencing her, though if she crosses the line in Canada I would agree with her facing charges. As for UofO, her people canceled it not the university and so far all the reasons they gave for security were not substantiated. she silenced herself
vnorthru 1 year ago
How is this "hate speech"! Gays are as bad as Sodom and Gommorrah! Violently against anyone who opposes the gay lifestyle!
DaSouth123 1 year ago 2
in politically correct Canada, Canadians aren't allowed to say "dick"... unless they got one up their ass...
CrackerJackLee 1 year ago
@DaSouth123
"Gays are as bad as Sodom and Gommorrah!" WTF. So you should persecute anyone who is not like you, though they can do nothing about it. And don't try telling me it's a choice, it has been shown to be genetic (and I am speaking as a geneticist) that is a multifactorial trait (means there are multiple loci as well as environmental conditions).
vnorthru 1 year ago
I hate to be the stick in the sand for you guys but Canada has laws against hate speech which is exaclty what Coulter is spreading. Do you agree that all Muslims should be banned from airports? I hope not. The flying carpet and camel comment was just plain rude and inappropriate. I don't get how so many people can side with such a prejudiced view.
JosephPockaj 1 year ago 5
@JosephPockaj I totally agree. I had a video up stating my view on Ann Coulter and why I did not want her at my school (I'm a uOttawa student) and you should have seen the hate I received. I ended up taking it down because it was so hurtful. Being called a left-wing fascist, stupid bitch who just wants to hear herself speak, hilter supporter, dimwitted 19yr old, all because I denounced racism. Thank you for having a brain.
hilarylambz 1 year ago
@hilarylambz
It's sad how they talk of free speech but then attack people like you for your opinion. People have been attacking me as well when I only try to state the truth.
JosephPockaj 1 year ago
@hilarylambz Ann is a media slut.... Her and people like her are so righting that they see anything from centre left as extreme left. You should have left the video up... If peeps like Ann get to have a voice, as misguided as it is, you should to.... When no one will stand-up for you, you are left with only one other choice....
Take Care
MK
MysticKnight38 1 year ago
@JosephPockaj
Canada does NOT have laws against hate speech. The only laws against spoken or written comments are Slander and Defamation. Other than that, anything is fair game.
Muslims get away with inciting hatred and violence. I'll be you have no problems with that.
MtnBluebird 1 year ago
MtnBluebird: "Canada does NOT have laws against hate speech."
Actually, we do. Section 318 of the criminal code makes it an offence to advocate or promote genocide against an identifiable group.
•Sections 319(1) and 319(2)make it an offense to communicate statements in a public place that will incite hatred against an identifiable group.
shemp2 1 year ago
@JosephPockaj - Freedom of Speech is not about being free to only say what the majority agrees with, it is about allowing people to express their opinions, even though some may find them offensive. Allowing someone to have their say is not the same as siding with them. I do not agree with Ann Coulter's opinions, I think she is a bigot and a brat. But, I want to know what my enemies are thinking, not shut them up. I do not allow Ann Coulter to do my thinking for me. Fascists shut people up.
mikespulligan 1 year ago
@mikespulligan Yes, but these students pay tuition, so it's their university, and if they don't want someone there spreading hate speech, it's there choice. Ann could have stood on the sidewalk just off of campus and still gave her speech.
If I was a Muslim or black, or a Jew, etc, should I have to allow someone to come in my home and speak against my people and a hateful way?? We just don't condone hateful behavior in Canada, and the paying students spoke their minds
djkhaless 1 year ago
It's not their university, since it's taxpayer subsidised. That means the taxpayers own it. I'm surprised you mention muslims and jews in the same sentence, muslims are famous for hating jews, homosexuals, women, and anything that is not islam. "We just don't condone hateful behavior in Canada" is vague and meaningless. The law is more specific. You may not promote genocide and you may not incite others to hate. You are allowed to hate whatever you want and express that. We call it Free Speech.
mikespulligan 1 year ago
@mikespulligan in Canada hatespeech is illegal. You can't walk into a grocery store and call a black person a "nigger", you can be charged
djkhaless 1 year ago
@JosephPockaj
the point in having apriori principles is to avoid "taking a side" as you put it. When you confuse standing up for universal principles with "taking a side" then implicitly you are "taking a side" and therefore abondoning the most basic element of fairness. In doing so you wield a double edged sword via empowering the manichean mob mentality.
BTW, if Canada could outlaw "spreading hate", then everyone would be in jail.
St37One 6 months ago
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With NARROW-MINDEDNESS and BIGOTRY U of O students REJECT the freedoms in Canada. People DIED defending FREEDOM OF SPEECH but because YOU disagree with someone you think they shouldn't have the RIGHT TO SPEAK.
You have the right NOT TO LISTEN to someone with whom you disagree but you DO NOT have the right to stop them from speaking.
Brdstfff 1 year ago 2
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Students at the University of Ottawa have shown their INTOLERANCE and HATRED by not allowing Freedom of Speech to occur at a Canadian university. As a Canadian I'm ashamed of you and humiliated by your behaviour. You're SPOILED BRATS who don't care that people GAVE THEIR LIVES so you could enjoy freedom. You've negated those deaths and dishonoured every man and woman who worked, fought or died to give us all the freedom you've rejected.
YOU ARE ALL NAZIS and can go straight to Hell.
Brdstfff 1 year ago 2
I completely agree. To these people, tolerance only applies to what they want it to. They are doing exactly what Fascists have done for a hundred years. Your comment was even spammed...
Edubbplate 1 year ago 8