Dana's Story

[fernan619]

Can someone explain tome what the difference between macross and robotech? From what i understand the original macross had 36 eps. and robotech has like 86?? do I have see the second season of robotech in order to see macross plus??

[GunterJPN]

@fernan619

Robotech is a story which includes a modified version of Macross. It has nothing to do with Macross Plus. At the time Robotech aired, a show needed 65(?) episodes for syndication. Macross alone could not fit that requirement, so Carl Macek adjusted the story to make it connect with two other anime series. This second saga of Robotech was originally unrelated to the Macross saga other than a similar name ("Super Dimensional").

[blackwolf787]

HOW THE HELL DID RICK HUNTER BECOME SO MUCH LIKE ROY IN APPEARANCE?!

[blackwolf787]

@blackwolf787 I feel stupid now.....

[vidform]

The sound effects are NOT of the original tv airing. I'm not talking about the Japanese version, but from the original airing on American tv (1980s). When you hear the laser canon fire, the explosions and the fighters flying around, it's not the original sound. I don't like it as much as the original sound. It seems like they tried to give the show more realistic sound fx. They're ok, but I prefer the old sound fx. If I decide to buy the dvd set, I will try to find the original sound fx.

[esurfer26]

Why not just call it "Southern Cross"?

[Vigilant1776]

Max the man!

[TheVerta22]

are they any zentratii left other then dana

[rpgfantatic]

@TheVerta22: Depends on which version you're referring to and if you consider the "Robotech:The Sentinels" novels and comic books to be canon. In the original Japanese Macross, the universe was scattered with independent Zentraedi Fleets. In Sentinels, the Zentraedi who had allied with Gloval and the SDF-1 went into deep space with the expeditionary forces. In Macross Plus, Macross 7 & Macross Frontier, the Zentraedi who allied themselves with Earth, went to the stars on the human colony ships.

[esanaralphs]

Is perfect my friends!!!!! but someone know how to see a spanish version??

[survivorproject]

Max is the true ACE!

[wingcomxlegolas]

group of bald alien

[820krx7]

After the REF settles all that goes down in the Masters' regions of space, they come back to try to retake Earth, (Invid saga). so the masters find a planet being rebuilt, and after this series, the Invid come to find a planet they can pretty much just have without a fight. I really thought the progression of the arcs was well done, but I doubt I'd have that opinion had I not read the novelizations...

[820krx7]

The reason the mecha aren't more advanced is because the Robotech Expeditionary Force(Lisa, Rick, et al.) took everything of value with them to find the Robotech Master's homeworld and take the fight to them. The two forces missed each other- so the REF gets to the master's world to find it deserted while the Masters get to Earth, which is played out here. I think the government in control at this time staged a coup right after the REF left to gain their power, too-read the novels YEARS ago...

[jackhammer10101]

@820krx7

however, according to the Sentinels General Leonard was in charge then, and apparently is in charge now...

[Zrooper]

Her mother had green hair and her father had blue hair; how the heck did she get blond?!

[driftingwolf0]

@Zrooper it could have been a recesive gene in one of the parents. though the parents didnt have it the child could have it

[Zrooper]

@driftingwolf0 but when she was a baby in the first season she had green hair

[driftingwolf0]

@Zrooper hmmmmm hair dye lol

[fatroc33]

How old Dana on here?

[zvermilyer3]

@fatroc33

Between the ages of 16 and 19.

[Rainbow6Team]

One of the masters sounds like Breetai.

[wanshei]

these commercials are a fucking pain in the ass. you can show me the same shit over and over its not going to make me buy it despite all your 'research' so fuck you.

[BrianBuckShot]

@wanshei

i don't think they give a shit if you buy it, it's what pays for you to see this shit free. so ya fuck you!

[cstory72]

I felt the masters installment was the weakest of the robotech story due to Dana being a bit an airheaded dumbass blonde

[Octane64]

@cstory72 while that may be true, it had some cool mecha designs. The Bioroids kicked ass, as well as the Spartans and Ajaxs, I mean, hovertanks and helicopters that transform into giant robots ftw.

[cstory72]

I felt the masters installment was the weakest of the robotech story due to Dana being a bit an airheaded dumb blonde

[Steelers6timechampz]

Great stuff! The Southern Cross was pretty cool! In the RPG they had some really cool armor and weapons.

[WRATHofDESTRUCTION]

wouldn't her hair be blue or green like her parents?

[Octane64]

@WRATHofDESTRUCTION maybe both max and miriya had a recessive gene for blonde hair.

[demoskunk]

@Octane64 Or maybe Southern Cross is originally a separate show that has NOTHING to do with Macross. Just a wild guess, though...

[Octane64]

@demoskunk I was well aware of the fact that Robotech is made up of three separate animes, its called suspension of disbelief.

[zvermilyer3]

@Octane64

She had blue hair as a baby. She must have dyed it.

[zvermilyer3]

@WRATHofDESTRUCTION

She had blue hair as a baby, so she must have dyed it.

[TheGreengoldwhite]

when are they gonna make a live action movie of robotech

[Sybawave]

Wow...usually time tends to make technology better so what the heck happened to those Veritechs xD that alone is enough to make me stop at this episode. Plus, I heard the rest sucked xD

[smkipus]

That song!!!

[TheRPdefender1989]

I miss the old veritech fighters these new planes are ugly

[CerberusOperativeN7]

@TheRPdefender1989 So true.. :/ ..the VF-1 Veritech Fighter Design vas the best..!

[roothands]

Why were there male soldiers in Miriya's squadron? The Zentradi are sex-segregated, so they'd all be female. Also, it's a shame that Southern Cross was edited this way because it's really a decent show, but it ends up being the weakest part of the Robotech tv series

[Hei1Bao4]

Yeah, Roy was dead by this time in Robotech: The Macross Saga. Rick was not in combat at this time, I think he and Lisa were stuck in a part of the ship during a transformation of the SDF1. Max was called back to see what the game was with that one Zentradi fighter, but certainly not by Roy. Max was under Rick's command. This sort of inconsistency throughout this series is why I never got into it after having enjoyed The Macros Saga back when I was a kid.

[brandiandpaul]

@Hei1Bao4 you need to get laid dude. It's a popcorn cartoon...not real life.

[Hei1Bao4]

@brandiandpaul I watched this as a kid back in the 80's when it originally aired. I was enjoying a bit of nostalgia. I should know about real life by now... and about a little thing called "suspension of disbelief" which I assume you've never heard of. When a time line is broken, or physics ignored, it prevents suspension of disbelief and ruins a plot... but I might as well be trying to teach quadratic equations to a vegetable.

[Kalladorn]

For those who are wondering what happened in between this episode and the previous one with Rick, Lisa and everyone else, check out the Robotech: The Sentinels Movie. It explains several keys things even though it is incomplete.

And, no, Rick, Lisa, Max and Miryia aren't dead and all of them live even into the New Generation series.

[ellnats]

it may be a flashback episode but its not the same i miss the old show

[TheRedComet0079]

4:18 NOOOOOOOOO not HER voice again!!!!

[aznprincess2468]

@TheRedComet0079 OMG i know!!!!!!!

[kurlobe]

didnt roy die before max joined ricks squad?

[IShotXrgasclan]

@kurlobe No, soon after.

[kurlobe]

@IShotXrgasclan ayh

[klined]

@kurlobe

Nope. Vermilion Squad was assembled pretty early on.

[Hei1Bao4]

@kurlobe Max was introduced to Rick by Roy. Roy was dead before Max met Miryia. In this flash back they screw up showing both Rick and Roy flying the same Skull Leader Veritech, even though neither were present during this dogfight in the original Macross Saga. Otherwise, Miryia might have decided one of them was the best pilot, and gone after them instead of Max. Especially if Roy had been there.

[u17008]

@Hei1Bao4 In the Harmony Gold version of Robotech, when Max & Miriya had their first combat Rick was hospitalised. Roy was indeed in charge, in fact he was killed by a stray shot in this fight. He never actually met Miriya.

Both Rick & Max were under overall comand of Roy, so he could issue orders to any of them. Again, this is the Harmony Gold version, I have no idea how the original Japanese goes.

[Blizzard2319]

epic knife fight lol

[TheOrnageJuice]

So everyone died...in 15years...how???

[cesariojpn]

@TheOrnageJuice

They all got crabs.

[youdomoo]

lol I watched season 3 after macross saga! I think I I liked macross saga better though... But idk I just really liked the story line!

[choopdewoot]

jeeze. i wish this was more like the old one

[WOWJBEOWULF]

If you look at Robotech as a mythology, the SDF represents Space Force (it is a composite creature of space force, and there are communities that surround military installations and a few camp followers--the entertainment circus--and civilians). We should only see all officers, except for the Chief top enlisted post as he is a supervisor of enlisted duties, because each mecha represents a unit instead of a simple machine. Done for our entertainment of high adventure, not leaky butt reality.

[woodsleeps]

@WOWJBEOWULF We'll be watching you.......

[WOWJBEOWULF]

@woodsleeps I am watched all of my life by God. I take him out for a beer.

[woodsleeps]

@WOWJBEOWULF Well, that's impressive (!)

[IceMarsoc]

WOOOT, Season 2!!!

[matthewung]

Damn... if one of my friends came up to me and started telling me how his/her parents met then i'd be out the door so fast that my shadow would be left behind.

[MrHalosniper117]

6:45  farewell big brother?

[Inuksen]

@MrHalosniper117 yes

[Grail378]

Private Grant? Was Claudia pregnant? o.O

[RoninofFire]

@Grail378 younger brother

[EternalWingsOfGod]

Min Mei song lives on and haha How he met mom

[serbdetritus182]

where can i see the sequel to macross saga?

[bbt104]

im sorry but even if sony is doing 3d games as well they lose to nintendo because nintendo's making 3d without the need for the stupid high priced glasses

[Arzaker]

CLAUDIA AND GLOVAL DIED

SHIIIIIIIIIT

well at least shes with roy now

[sublbc]

Best episode of Robotech ever! so good they had to do it twice!

[bebito1a]

out of the southern cross, this episode is the only one that ties the macross saga and southern cross. go dana go!!!!!

[AngelicCo]

@bebito1a Well, Max and Miriya do have a vague cameo in Dana's dream in episode 60 after she "meets" her sister.

[Nightweaver1]

The style of this is shockingly incongruous to the original series, and looks nothing like Macross. Also so far I have no idea just what the hell is going on, and the Robotech Masters' dialogue is incredibly confusing. Sadly the best part of this episode was the flashback. I'll give this series another chance by watching a few more eps but if it's this confusing and unfamiliar I may just blow it off entirely.

[Drakenfel]

@Nightweaver1 , yeah. What happened is that Harmony Gold meshed three entirely seperate and unrelated japanese animes together to craft Robotech. The reasoning for this was because as a series 65 episodes or so were required to air it as a weekday series or some such. As a result you get an overall plot that suffers in fluidity and continuity. That sucks, but I gotta give them some credit for doing as well as they did with this Frankenstein many have fell in love with.

[Tom3744]

I do not like the mech and tech design due to it looking like voltron and transformer's love child.

[X619xreyx619x]

Who's main male Character?

[transformergod86]

1 of the masters has the same voice as Breetai

[yakfitguy]

The original Macross saga is 3 parts:

Basically fighting 3 different aliens:

Zentradi, Robotech Masters, Invid.

[bbt104]

so is this supose to be part of the macross series?

[lancerCNCS1]

No. yakfitguy means Robotech not Macross saga.

The first part with the Zentraedi is the "Macross saga." The second part is "Robotech Masters",and the third is "New Generation."

The 3 together compose the "Robotech" saga.

[preofQ08]

This sucks... I want more Rick and Lisa... the new people blow

[BronWhitehill]

Well preofQ08, ur out of luck. the movie that they're supposed to be in was screwed.

[superzilla784]

how do you think i felt about Gundam Zeta? Amuro may of been whiney but still he was the main character for 42 whole episodes

Kamile was ok (he used a Gundam to get revenge on someone, he was tired of being treated small so he used his Gundam on the guy without a MS and made him feel small, that was pretty funny LOL) but i still missed Amuro

[150templar]

do rick or lisa ever show up in Robotech masters

[masonal]

No. Though they are referenced throughout the rest of the series.

[dancumbe]

@150templar Look up the Robotech sentinels. Thats the bridge between Macross and the Masters.

[WeissVogel]

How He Met My Mother!

[ATP2555ify]

Wonder where Miriya and Max are anyway.

[EvilFingers]

With Rick Hunter, Lisa Hayes, I mean Mrs, Lisa Hunter on the SDF-3 and the rest of the REF.

[the4thMizukage]

@EvilFingers rick did the right thing with lisa because minmei was a family whore!

[EvilFingers]

@the4thMizukage

Minmei wasnt a Family Whore, she was jsut too fucking Picky and Annoying...which reminds me of some of the women Ive dated in the past.

[RoninofFire]

@ATP2555ify on macross 7 ;P

[tvwatcher41]

how old are you

[wickedchaz]

Actually the Sentinels was a failed production made here in America. Only went like two episodes before cancelling. There are continuity issues after that because the Sentinels wasn't officially recognized as canon.

[Neoguest]

Thee episode was producted actaully. Sentinals cancel due to the crrash of dollar and yen exchange rate. Matchbox left because of the increase of cost.

[dancumbe]

@Neoguest your right and I do think it is official as cannon, since Harmony gold was involved and they created the arc that linked 3 diffferent anime stories together.

[AngelicCo]

Here's hoping MANGAentertainment puts up a valid upload for Robotech II: The Sentinels, the 1986/87 movie which bridges the gap between The Macross Saga & The Masters. It reveals what became of Rick Hunter, Lisa, Dana's parents, and the rest of the survivors of that era as they ventured on the REF's Pioneer Mission. Also, it shows Dana and Bowie as childhood friends, Leonard's fears of the imminent Second Robotech War, and even a cameo by Rolf Emerson. Really a neat side story set before Masters

[EvilFingers]

The movie would nice, but then people would want the Series to be Uploaded, and thats a No Go from that Point On since the The Sentinels Series was never completed.

[179107199999]

Pause at 6:52...Is that really Roy or a hacked editing by harmony gold???

[179107199999]

hey...why's Dana's hair blond? I thought it was green when she was born in the Macross saga?

[dejabu24]

she changed her hair color because she dont want people realized she was a Zentradi or an Alien that was in the novels

[CyrussNP]

Nah, no one as annoying as Kyle in Masters.

[starperch]

Interesting. I saw (and really dug) Robotech (Macross Saga) back in the 80s, but never saw Masters until now. I remember seeing a few episodes of what I believe has come to be known as Next Gen. and was disappointed at the anime then. I still look forward to seeing this series through--it still beats what's on TV now.

Is there a Kyle-like character I should start hating right away? U know, just to save time...

[Allarian]

that's funny I remember reading the books a while before any of the Macross Series came out.

[179107199999]

nope the first saga is called the MACROSS saga for a reason.That was the name of the series that harmony gold used to create robotech.the series came in the 1980's before the mckinney novels

[Carstinfraloreal]

This show really takes me back to my childhood. Remember renting Robotech at the local videostore among with Silverfang. These shows were and are still epic.

[CarlGorn]

The level of excellence in drawing and color here is SO far below that of the Robotech movie. Very disappointing in an anime.

[Spookoyuko]

Failtroll is fail. 1/10.....

[jojo95209]

this does not fail thhis is the first anime ever broadcast and is made in the 1980s dumbass

[Spookoyuko]

Failtroll is still fail.

First 'anime' was made in the 1920s dumbass.

[sarahseth4]

i dont know when the first anime came out but T.V. was not avalible to the public until the 1930's so be careful who you call a dumb ass

[Spookoyuko]

Cinemas were available to the public back in the 1920s. Why do you think people were making anime back then, dumberass?

[sarahseth4]

next you wil be telling me thet kabuki theater was the first anime.

[179107199999]

YOU SIR are right.they won't agree with you even after they check the facts. Don't argue with the unintelligent. It'll lower your I.Q. by 15 points.

[sarahseth4]

It was not anime dumbass they were silent pictures and barely moved it was manga on the big screen. look up your facts. the first true anime wasent till the 80's

[179107199999]

No your mistaken.Tetsujin 28 (Gigantor)and Astro Boy came WAY before the 80's.Gundam started in 1979.Also Kimba the White Lion is old too. And Speed Racer came out before the 80's. Anime is what the People of Nihon call all animation,not just the movies.Your facts I must say are mistaken.

[sarahseth4]

I give up you people are crazy i did look it up. But you Win oh wise Jedi masters.

[179107199999]

my midi chlorian count is rather high :)

[orinanime]

Um, Anime is a general term that became a more specific slang term in the early 80s.

Anime is Japanese animation.

The FIRST full-length anime was made in 1917.

It was called "Imokawa Mukuzo Genkanban no Maki" or "The Story of the Concierge Mukuzo Imokawa".

[buttercremehonda]

nobody gives a fuck you japlover

[orinanime]

everyone else with a brain you narrowminded, racist, lonely, pathetic excuse for a human.

[CarlGorn]

I'm just saying that I think they could have done better. Other anime with the Robotech name on it does. If I was a troll, I'd be posting in some ridiculous mish-mash of 1337 and swearing.

Nobody's saying you have to like my opinion, but I put it out there because it's what I believe, not because I'm looking for attention. There is a difference, you know.

[CarlGorn]

So, you're saying that this was produced BEFORE the Macross Saga and the movie? Even if that's so, there were better anime out there at the time. Heck, Transformers started in Japan before the American version came out in the 80's and BOTH were of higher caliber as far as the graphic art goes.

[Spookoyuko]

Made in 1984, in the wake of the success of the Macross TV series (and shortly before the release of the OAV Megazone 23 which would become Robotech the Movie).

Tatsunoko always saw Southern Cross as a cash-in title and did not really lavish too much attention on it. Conceptually, it was brilliant, but the production budget really did not match the vision. Even here in Japan it rather dipped under the radar, and I don't even recall seeing it on its first run back in the 80s.

[gerinja]

she could have her hair dyed blond

[autocon2002]

I will say this ONE TIME:

Robotech was made from three UNRELATED anime series, given new scripts so that they could be strung together with some sense of continuity. The REAL names of these series are Super Dimensional Fortress MACROSS, Super Dimensional Militia Southern Cross (not related storywise, just carries the Super Dimensional title), and Genesis Climber MOSPEADA.

What Paladium Books did was clever, yes, but I really feel it creates alot of unneeded confusion.

[autocon2002]

Rescripted unrelated anime is rescripted!

[wakato101]

dude...

i had the robotech game and didnt know???

and it was worth 100 bucks on that auction D=

[tarrker]

Mmmmm 80's anime....

[HCreams]

Dana's dad has blue hair & her mom has green hair. Where did Dana get her blond hair from? The postman?

[Galactatech]

This character design was from a show that was unrelated to the show used to create the macross saga.

[autocon2002]

So was the show.

[xwingvmanx]

Well green is a combination of blue and yellow lol

[SICMetal74]

she was born with green hair lol

[segalaw19800]

NO ... The milk man

[dejabu24]

she changed he hair color because she dont want people realized she was Zentraedi or an Alien, she always refused to be an alien or a Zentraedi girl you have to read the novels I think the name was Mater gambit from Jack McKinney

[179107199999]

The stories written by Jack Mckinney are not "core continuity."Also Dana Sterling is actually Jeanne Francaix.and the baby from the previous saga was named Komilia after Milia aka Miria.

[dejabu24]

the Jack McKinney novels were released under the robotech license so they are part of the robotech universe, Carl Macek in self declared the importance of this novels because they expose a lot of things about the characters even more that the comics does, and let me tell you that you are mixing things Komilia is from the Macross Universe not Robotech and Jeanne is from southern Cross you must first make that clear in your mind

[tamphka]

jajaja... my kids, my son, and my daugter, and no, i don`t write english so much, just a little. And i don`t understend so much this language... just can i see and understend readding. :)

[tamphka]

is cool, but my kids dont speak english, just spanish...

[117Jorn]

Then how are you typing english? HA!

[shadownemmy]

google translator?

[snurfbee58]

EatRune, it was from Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross. Wow, its' been a long time since I've seen the Southern Cross saga! I don't remember Dana sounding like a 40 year old woman.

[aminns]

I hate how Dana's mother (Miriya) went from being a hot&spicy chica to a lesser version of herself by getting married.

[invuanez]

i love this and macross frontier

[zoomizoomzoomzam]

why does dana have blond hair?

[Cheetor91]

in the macross saga it was a blue green

[ilovewarships]

10:11

why is lupin the 3rd on here?

[EvilFingers]

At the time when Robotech was being aired, Lupn was a Nobody, so the kind people of Robotech gave him a Spot in their show.

[ilovewarships]

MysticdoubleX

I did not mean to spam your comment, just reply.

You like white girls with blonde afros?

[MysticdoubleX]

don't think its a afro but i think the girl is cutie

[MysticdoubleX]

dana is hot

[EvilFingers]

Whoaaa!

You guys at Manga are awesome and Thank You for Uploading this!

[EatRune]

If the first Robotech series is made from Macross, which one is this one made from?

[EvilFingers]

Southern Cross Army