Carville on Airport Security: 'Go Measure My Penis and Let Me Get on The Airplane'

[Clackergille]

holy shit people, the reaction to this in the comments is priceless

[d0861]

Measure his penis? Whoa...

[AxRhea88]

Carville's a liberal dumbaassss. Oh wait. When is a liberal not a dumbass? haha sorry, my mistake.

[catbone10101]

@AxRhea88

Damn liberals

[skidawg22]

Funny thing about that clip (and I listen to Kornheiser via podcast): Carville was calling in to Mr. Tony to pick football games, and the discussion started with current events.

BTW, Carville's picks that week: Philly over Dallas, Jets over Cincy, Baltimore over New England, and Packers over Arizona. He went 2-2.

[freesk8]

He's free to sacrifice HIS privacy and dignity.

But his implication is that everyone should value their liberties so little.

He has NO right to demand that I and others sacrifice our rights for a little temporary security.

As Franklin said, those willing to sacrifice those essential liberties deserve neither liberty nor safety.

[aGent007Royale]

@freesk8 Don't be a douchebag. Did you think he was serious moron.

[freesk8]

He says "I'm serious, I don't care..." if he gets searched.

Yes, I do think he is serious.

And I stand by my comment above.

And when you call people names, my friend, it only makes YOU look bad.

[aGent007Royale]

To be honest, I don't care if I look bad. Carville clearly states that he is referencing to a frequent flyer card - a safe passage card - for frequent fliers so they can get through security a little quicker than the average traveler. I have one for specific US airports.

[freesk8]

Again, he is free to sacrifice his rights, but his implication is that others should as well.

He has no right to sacrifice the rights of others.

My original comment stands.

[van1980]

@freesk8 What right is being sacrificed, significance junkie? Privacy? They're not coming into your home, you're using THEIR services and they're trying to make it safer for you. No rights are being sacrificed. Find something else for your pseudo outrage.

[freesk8]

4th Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Where is the warrant for these searches?

Even though they may be TRYING to make me safer, they are not. So this violates my rights for nothing.

[van1980]

The searches are not unreasonable.

[freesk8]

That's subjective, but what is clearly true is that there are no warrants being issued, no probable cause (merely traveling domestically by air does not constitute probable cause you are a terrorist, any more than entering a bank is probable cause that you are a bank robber.)

Also, no person is specified if such a warrant exists.

I think these searches ARE unreasonable.

But they clearly lack warrants, and so are unconstitutional.

[van1980]

You don't have a right to fly, you're using private services. Any company can put stipulations on their services. Read the back of your airline ticket; you agreed to their searches when, having read your ticket as a citizen should, you proceed through security.

[freesk8]

Of course airlines have a right to refuse you for any reason, even a reason that violates the Constitution, but that is not what is happening here.

The TSA is a GOVT agency and the TSA is doing the searching.

They have forced themselves on the airlines and on the people.

The TSA is govt agents, and if they force the airline to comply, then the airline is acting as a govt agent as well. The Const. applies to them, and the 4th amendment with it.

[aGent007Royale]

Carville is joking about whipping his junk out and having it measured. If I am bugging you - well, I mean to bug you. Because BS like your comment and that of others on a multitude of topics is bringing the lowest common denominator in this country to a low that has dropped and continues to drop.

[freesk8]

You don't bug me, you seem not to understand my objection.

You can call my comment BS, but that does not actually refute my argument.

Your assertion that my argument reduces the level of discourse in this nation is merely an unproven assertion.

[aGent007Royale]

No one in airport security is ever going to ask you to display your private areas in a security line unless you refuse to cooperate in which case they may walk you out of the line or take you into a back room for further questioning by local law enforcement. That's the way it works my friend. If youre going to leave a comment that is easily refutable don't be surprised if someone calls you out.

[freesk8]

The imaging scanners currently being installed DO display our private areas.

Asserting your 4th amendment rights (where's the warrant?) would get you additional violations of your constitutional rights.

I agree that that is the way it currently works. My argument is that the way it currently works is not only immoral, it is unconstitutional.

Care to explain WHY no warrant is required for this search? Read the 4th amendment if you care.

You've not refuted me at all.

[van1980]

If I walk on to a nude beach that has signs displayed that all individuals at said beach must be nude, are my rights being violated if I don't wish to undress? No, I simply need to make the decision not to use their beach.

Same with air travel. Flying is not a right, it's a process of mutual agreement.

[freesk8]

I assume you are talking about a private beach, otherwise a requirement of nudity would violate liberty and thus be wrong.

You have no right to access to private property, so the owner may place any arbitrary restriction on your going to the nude beach.

Similarly, airlines are free to place arbitrary restrictions on your doing business with them.

But that is NOT what is happening here. The govt has forced the TSA on airlines and the people. The airspace is public, not private.

[duelo99]

They probably would need to couple that X-ray scanner with an electronic scanning microscope in order to get the resolution needed to find a penis that small.

[Nogeorgiabelle]

This is ridiculous.  This latest attempted attack had nothing to do with a lack of scanners. It had everything to do with govt officials not acting on information--even information given to them by the guy's father, a prominent banker. All this talk of scanners is just officials' deflecting the responsibility for their screw-up.

[cocobear33]

lol what a clown

[tank3584]

What a worthless piece of crap....

[Pro902]

Who is this douche bag host? I want to punch him in the face.

[dds2190]

Tony Kornheiser. And you're the douchebag.

[Pro902]

Wow he's fucking annoying.

You can go have your dick measured. I'll keep my rights dirt bag. Too many of these douchebags on the radio voicing their shitty opinion and implying it's the same as ours.

[micsc50]

They don't make a ruler small enough to measure Carville's penis He pisses through a hole in his groin.

[HerbertHKohl]

So how were you able to blow a penis that small?

[micsc50]

you tell me.

[mikeyp1230]

"Im part Irish" haha

[tankwfw]

"I would have no problem with a full body scan"

Eventually this turns into

"I would have no problem with a full back ground check."

and then

"I would have no problem with a subdermal chip that automatically oks me for flying."

[oddcatalyst]

@tankwfw okay Alex Jones

[fl00ders]

Yeah yeah you mock him now - but that's definitely where you guys are headed.

[OdesuneOSE]

Men don't care about their penis being seen.

They care about their 5 year old daughter's private parts being photographed when they are hit with radiation.

This security improving wave we are on is never going to end.

The Xmas day terror attempt was a guy who was led through security and set off a firework in his Y-fronts.

That is not enough to justify all of this.

[teapartyman]

Perfect example of stupidity in our country. You could tell people to get chip implants all in the name of national security. They would line up in mass numbers like sheep being sent to a slaughterhouse.

[ETericET]

True, they did for the swine flu. That turned out to be bogus.

[luciddreamluv87]

i remember the lst time i was on a plane bk in 06,security seemed really laxed...

[mdtm16]

radiation

[howthefagworks]

fucking freaks

[superc]

SEE BLAME THE NeoCons FOR THE AIRPLANE HASSLE WE HAVE TODAY! THIS STAGED ATTACK ON OUR SOIL BY THESE SCUM MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX HAVE CAUSED US A LOT OF TROUBLE.

[ATR108]

ive never been on a plane...i dont plan on going on a plane.....if i ever do there gonna see a big chubby penis haha

[treningsformer]

love it!

[dmjarrington]

Fascists.

[soldner0978]

Carville: needs to have a cavity search to pull the dead gerbils out of his ass.

[SAOProductions1955]

I didn't know that those scanning machines came in the size of a handheld magifying glass?

[renijohn012270]

I'll never understand how James can be married to that right wing conservative freak of a wife! Well, they say opposites attract!

[hellshade2]

my problem with a body scanner has nothing to do with personal liberties and everything to do with what kind of radiation my body is being subjected to during the process.

[MrGnarus]

problem reaction solution

body scanner just in time to save the day.

curious-er and curious-er

[pokerslut530]

I do disagree with the idea of full body scanners that would actually be able to see your private anatomical features (even by "anonymous", off-site people). Firstly, there is no reason to need a scanner that can make out human tissue. A run-of-the-mill X-ray would suffice just fine in order to spot any unusual objects IN OR around someones body.

Also, what about like celebrities? What if Britney's nakedness (OMG!) was exposed by some fringe security person? lol

I can't see it happening.

[99hesoe]

Except X-Ray machines causes cancer.... Those body scanners as far as known don't, since they can't penetrate human tissue.

[pokerslut530]

Hmmm.... good point I guess... at first I was thinking "So?" but if you're a frequent business flyer who travels on 5 diff flights a week..... that could be a problem....

[9mmparadox]

body scanners are expensive enough... now taxpayers have to shell out more money for an electron microscope to measure Carville's penis.

[chakracolors]

Carville is really funny. I enjoy his interviews

[TTURedRaidr]

Barak Hussein Obunghole is soon to go down in U.S. History as the 3rd President (although a fraud) to be impeached, and he WILL be removed from office on charges greater than misdemeanors.

[JBeatty17]

And fo what will he be impeached? You do realize that for a President to be impeached and removed, you would need 2/3 of Congress to approve such measures?  Sorry, slick. One million rednecks misspelling their own names on a giant roll of toilet paper isn't enough to remove Obama from office. Nice try though.

[jensen1901]

@TTURedRaidr

It's hilarious how angry you cons get. What laws has Obama broke? What is the charge? Say it, then prove it or GTFO.

[Redrum4409]

lol yea ok buddy...

drink kook-aid moar tin foil plz!?!?!?!

[KidVolcano]

@Redrum4409

Listen to Kurt Haskell.

He's a pretty mainstream guy, Just travlin home from Amsterdam one fine Christmas day. He's got some interesting observations.

[KidVolcano]

@Redrum4409

and please don't use Kool-Aid as a reference to Jonestown, as there was never any Kool-Aid brand powdered drink mix at Jonestown.

Oh, I see, you said "kook-aid."

Carry on.

[zibbadow]

Carville is fuckin' hilarious !!

[Richardgwm]

Well, I guess if these guys don't mind their privacy being violated then no one else is justified minding either.

[sjcpal]

Whats Next , I say ..Scanners are a fail....I say make the Airlines all have undercover cops on board ...then along with the scanners mmaybe

[sjcpal]

Anyone thats been in an American Prison knows anything can be done....regardless of body scanners..

[sjcpal]

Has anyone every watched those prison shows on msnbc ...where these cons stick all kinds of junk up their keisters , from what i've heard the scanners only show outside the skin ..Hypothetically if someone wants to bad enough bring some stuff onboard ...they do that (keisteri it) and go in the toilet and deposit it and come out , and wha la there you have it....

[Tinils]

hey hold up! hold the fuck up!!! Im Irish mother fucker!!! now what was that supose to mean>????

[asher1112]

it would be easy to measure his penis. its on top of his shoulders.LOL

[nongo]

does this mean asians can't fly anymore?

[CalexanderJ]

At the end was he about to say, "I'm part Irish, I'm not supposed to have a big dick"?

Cause it sounded like that's where he was going.

[BigPurple121]

How about instead of searching every single person the TAC can issue "frequent flyer" cards for businessmen. That will free up about 40% of all congestion. They can then pay closer attention to individuals. Problem solved, no rights violated.

[MadDogOfist]

Americans... air travel goes places the trains don't go sometimes. It's them 'foreign countries', dagnamit. Asking countries where the US is about as popular as the hairy shoulders of an obese woman to perform nude searches because a guy set his underwear on fire isn't going to go down well.

[OhioDemocrat]

I dont believe x-ray scanners at the airport are the answer. Its to invasive, just more rights they want you to give up in the name of security.

[Phyrexious]

It's funny how people always claim it's too invasive and then give NO argument whatsoever why it's so invasive..

A security guy touching your whole body isn't invasive? Scanning all your personal belongings in your bag isn't invasive?

It's funny how people are always afraid of new things when the old things they have are almost exactly the same or worse.

[OhioDemocrat]

It's funny how people always give up their rights when they think there go to be protected.

[Phyrexious]

Good job not responding to a single argument I've made.

As for your "It's too invasive", I repeat:

A security guy touching your whole body isn't invasive? Scanning all your personal belongings in your bag isn't invasive?

Oh and on top of that, you dont think it's the answer, perhaps you would like to share any idea's on how to prevent these kind of attacks in the future? Or is a plane down once a while an acceptable loss to you? I await your reply. Maybe this time with some real content.

[OhioDemocrat]

Its kind of you to expresst this kind curiousity about the security of Americans when you are from the Netherslands. Somehow I find it very disingenuous.

[Phyrexious]

Actually I follow USA politics very closely on a daily basis (TYT, TPM, and such). Watching the republican party making clowns of themselves is so much fun. Kinda like a real life soap. :)

But I don't see how it has anything to do with my argument. We already have the body scans in The Netherlands, right after the attack, only for flights to America at the moment. So yes, I have plenty reason to talk about this issue.

[Visfen]

Yeah, who cares right.

I'm going to go trough the airport entirely naked next time, with my ass lubricated and ready for them.

I figure that is what they want right?

I'd like to go with the cmpany that doesn't spend millions on X-Rays and security, just get me where I'm going, I'm not scared of terrorists no more than I'm scared of zombie midgets.

[kevmo99]

As it stand right now, there is still far greater odds of a plane coming down due to mechanical failure than due to terrorism. Yet instead of pouring money into maintenance on planes the government will throw money at surveillance and detection equipment to keep the irrational people scared of terrorists happy.

[oldtownkid]

The governments job is national security, the airline's job is maintenance of their planes.

[animeownage86]

I wonder if these nut jobs will still think its ok when it get's to the point where they insist on strip and cavity searches.

[volumedealer1]

Stupid,new world orrrrrrder

They are creating the problems to take away our freedoms

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

i have an 8 inch penis. however i dont want to stand in front of these machines. we havnt done enough studies on whether they damage the dna helix or not. when i fly i will request a standard manual strip search and just whip out my fat cock right in the face to embarrass the dickless airport security.

[jshooper]

carville is right....i don't care about some hypothetical / symbolic freedoms....i want to be safe and ALIVE on the damn plane

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@jshooper GIVE ME CONVENIENCE OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!! coward.

[jshooper]

RoyalDemonforChrist ....are you calling me a coward ?

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@jshooper yes you are a coward. you are willing to let them photograph your naked body because of your fear of so called terrorism. this is exactly what they want.

[jshooper]

RoyalDemonforChrist ....why should i care if they see my nude body ?....it's 2010...people post all sorts of sexual pictures of themself all over the internet (i don't)....people wear all kinds of revealing clothes, swinsuits etc....if my life...or others on the plane are saved from some lunatic terrorist because of this new scanning...then it is worth it....you would rather get blown out of the sky....and hold on to some false sense of freedom...don't let your selfishness kill everyone else

[kaysandesses]

jshooper wrote: "why should i care if they see my nude body ?"

Indeed. Me thinks those who are all nervous jiggly about some anonymous screener seeing an outline of their nekkedness have some -ahem- lack of confidence issues.

Besides, the image that is generated is basically a sillouette. If they would make the terminals a comfortable temperature I'll walk through in nothing but my skivvies and flip-flops if it speeds the boarding process and increases safety.

[dogstar7]

"...this is exactly what they want."

ROFLMAO!!!

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@dogstar7 terrorism wont stop no matter how much you submit to the military industrial complex. sorry.

[spikesmth]

Yep, as long as people believe in magic fairies and afterlives of paradise there will be brainless nutjobs who are willing to kill for their fantasy.

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@spikesmth as long as the military industrial complex controls the government terrorist attacks will be allowed to happen. que bono. who benefits? by the time they finish off their agenda and people realize it will be too late. the american people deserve it though for being so pathetic and stupid.

[spikesmth]

They're only pathetic and stupid because of religion undermining the quality of the education system.

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@spikesmth well that is still their fault isnt it? religion says we have free will. because they are manipulated by people with more knowledge than them it is still their fault for not thinking for themselves.

[spikesmth]

The fault of kids...? for an education system that is woefully inadequate? That seems like the Christian way to do it.

Free will is just an excuse for religion to blame evil on people instead of their creator who is the (not) real culprit.

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@spikesmth no christians blame satan for their misdeeds when actually they are the real culprit. yeah it is the fault of kids. kids grow up and become adults. they dont have to remain children in their minds for their whole lives. it is a choice.

[spikesmth]

LOL, Christians don't blame statan?! What about exorcisms? Remember Palin?

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

@spikesmth can you read?

[spikesmth]

no.

[bleunt]

Freedom > Safety.

[iknewitalready]

up in the air!

[rocketman6464]

immyforties post!! -------hahahahahahahahahahahah­ahahahahaa--awesome. this idiot now calls my hometown home...new orleans. god help us.

[dogstar7]

Tongue-in-cheek reference to advanced Biometric ID. Over most people's heads.

[carmie1818]

But not yours, apparently....thank you for helping the rest of us out.

[dogstar7]

It's my pleasure. Interpreting the otherwise obvious to the intellectually obtuse for over 35 years now, and loving it.

[carmie1818]

Look out...my YouTube genius alarm is going off...everyone clear out, dogstar7's google is going into over-drive...hahaha

[dogstar7]

...and I didn't even raise a sweat.

[carmie1818]

Impressive...I have to sub to your channel...maybe some of your excess IQ points will rub off.

[Blue387]

I plan to start showing up to airports naked from now on.

[toddlamp]

don't forget the Banana Hammock

[southparkgtaca]

Carville, fuck yeah!

[inmyforties]

it wouldn't take long to measure your penis james

[batfly]

I don't know about that...

You know how difficult and time consuming it is to calibrate an electron microscope?

Actually, isn't a Carville what makes up a quark?

[dogstar7]

Seems to keep his wife, conservative pundit Mary Matalin, satisfied. Funny you guys would go there...maybe not.

[batfly]

Carville went there because he is a "dick" head.

[callouschristian]

Seems very typical actually- The fact that cons are obsessed with genitalia AND would use it as a measure of a man's integrity. Makes me wonder about the FOX bar up the street (unfortunately) and what the urinals would say if they could talk.

[Francebrasil]

how do you know??

[Tokkemon]

Brilliant!