Steam car races toward record

[jwserge]

И ядерный реактор, чтоб как следует нагреть бочонок

Well, and a nuke reactor to properly boil the barrel )))))))

[freeman8128]

The first fuel ever used by motor vehicles was not propane, it was coal.

[ufoengines]

Very Cool!

[AgrivatedKillah]

Hank Hill would love this car

[Inigo93]

@peckerwood57, just a guess, but turbines are generally very powerful for their weight. So.... If you're going for max efficiency? Yeah, use a piston engine. But if you're going for max speed - where weight is important - it might be advantageous to forget efficiency and just brute force it.

[peckerwood57]

As others have mentioned, why not use a traditional steam piston engine rather than a turbine? Steam locomotives have massive torque. I would think a steam piston engine would also use much less steam/water and therefore less fuel. Look at the massive steam coming out of this thing. Plus that cool locomotive sound can't be beat!

[darknessdel454]

All cars should be powered by hydrogen

[TheAdmirableAdmiral]

lol at "steam barrier", 170mph is the speed of steam

[benjorgensen1]

UMM, people! a steam car is not "fueled" by steam. it still burns gas, and on top of that its not even as efficient as as just burning the gas in a piston cylinder.

[ToolofSociety]

@benjorgensen1 The depends on a lot including the actual designs of the engines themselves. Properly designed steam engines can run on about anything and as a result of their high temperature and low pressure combustion produce a lot less pollution...

[benjorgensen1]

@ToolofSociety yea, i guess you could even run it on hydrogen or natural gas or some other very low emision feul. is there posability for higher power engines that can have high rpms and torque or are steam engines inherently slugish? what do you think about sterling engines?

[ToolofSociety]

@benjorgensen1 I must profess that I am not even remotely close to being a steam expert. The sterling engine is one of a couple designs that seem interesting. Unfortunately I cannot remember the specific names at this moment :(

[rlt94]

@ToolofSociety the sterling engine is not steam based, it is a closed system that contained a compressed gas (usually nitrogen) that is caused to circulate between a heat source and a heat sink, moving through a set of pistons along the way. the design that interests me the most is the low temperture differential engine who's bottom plate cal collect and use the heat od a human hand

[KenMacMillan]

Almost every vehicle in the world is a modern twist on an old technology.

[KenMacMillan]

They could have just took an old 30hp steam engine & put it in a gutted Porsche & beat that record for a fraction of the cost. With 800 foot pounds of torque you wouldn't even need the transmission. You could gut it out to save weight & run direct drive.

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[XB0XFR34K]

hank hill would love this bike..............hehehehehe propane

[RobertBOUSKILL]

What a total waste of time and a total disregard for technological education as it stands. Yes turbines have been researched but this car is too big, and too useless to be considered for anything except wasting money. Alternative fuel -try using a microwave to make the mist of gasoline going into the engine have smaller spheres for better burning or try producing hydrogen on the fly from common water to fuel a car. Then you would be using useful thinking.

[JBofBrisbane]

@RobertBOUSKILL - creating the next big thing in efficient transportation is not the objective of this car - it's sole purpose is to break a speed record that has stood for 103 years. You want something invented - YOU do it!

[RobertBOUSKILL]

@JBofBrisbane - Thanks for responding to this video. I watched this video again and you are correct, the objective was to break a speed record. When you look at the size of this car will need a great deal of energy to propel it. Steam turbines are very efficient but they must be in the correct environment. It is not volume they need but pressure instead. I recommend a book by Jan P. Norbye on turbine engines. As far as something I invented you can go to Amazon .com, see " A Tinker's Dream"

[LunaticQuutamo]

Only a brit wan't to drive a car which sounds like a teakettle...

[CH1N1AN]

@LunaticQuutamo that doesn't make sense? "only a brit wa not to drive a car.." and above that, you're a twat!

[LunaticQuutamo]

@CH1N1AN first of all, thanks for insultings for no good reason, AND if you read my profil maybe you noticed that prypjat, isn't in the USA and not a great place for lifing there and my nativ language isn't english.

But thanks for the response, wha't would be the youtube community without people like you.

Jesus...

[brainsells3000]

Their biggest flaw is using a Turbine in a Stanley it has a 2 cylinder engine that has a power stroke on both directions. Why are they wasting so much pressure? Because they aren't trying. They just wish to show that if you build something that runs on steam that it will be a waste. They are wrong and they know it. A car built in 1906 can go 127 then, using E.C.M. and new flash boilers we can't do any better?

[JBofBrisbane]

@brainsells3000 - see my comment to RobertBOUSKILL.

[brainsells3000]

If we use natural gas. If we use modern technology to improve control over the motor. If we actually build something rather than to just be amused by people giving it their worst and giving us an illusion that says this is as good as steam gets. We might actually use less fuel and someday find a source that burns at great heat but cannot be used in a combustion engine.

[Arkenarge]

wooo go steam ftw, no more gas pl0x

[josephdupont]

your right.. god bless those stanley steamer guys.

[thezozo77]

103 broken is gay

[eelpieandmash]

Its actually worse than i thought!

In my previous comment i was under the illusion that the new record set was around 170mph,but now i learn its all of 148mph;which is lower than the unofficial Stanley record in 1907 of 150+mph!

All these guys had to do was to replicate the original Stanley design,with some modern tweaks (modern furnace,valve gear,aerodynamics) & hey presto,we would now have a record of at least 200+mph & done at the fraction of the cost!

But then wtfdik.

[MrNayl0r]

Go and build a better one then.

[carpenter547]

btw not to get too much on the carbon foot print issue but carbon = good. plants use carbon to grow period more carbon better plant.

unfortunatly carbon = bad for people.

remember there are only 3 things proven to destroy actually destroy the world *nova's* *black holes* *large metors/ or asteroids* notice how all are heavenly bodies or end in roid? wierd huh?

[carpenter547]

look steam engines are viable for cars. remember our internal combustion engines in the car is basically an air pump. if you used the right steam plant it would work just fine. the only question is how to make the steam. you could use ethonal or methonal *i think methonal would be great then the car and driver would be powered by the same four letters* to heat the water minus the wait while the boiler got going you would have better perfomance than the gasoline engine.

[jasonsadventure]

in the vid "as the world searches for new fuel for it's cars" 2:00 - this doesn't help

this car is not "steam powered," it's powered by propane (fuel) and uses a steam engine. fuck.

[eelpieandmash]

Ok,so the new record is 170 mph?

& the Stanley Steamer was doing 150+ mph before it crashed in 1907.

Well considering the huge improvement in engineering technology over the past100 years,this aint exactly much to write home about!

[boggedmaffus]

This needs more James May, but otherwise epic win.

[adamxmada]

NEW WORLD RECORD.

this car is powered by WIN

[MrRoboto602]

so in 1 word this guys project is a FAIL

[eelpieandmash]

A huge effort for little results!

The Stanley twins car,did at least 150mph before it crashed in 1907! & would probably gone onto further triumphs,if they had not been discouraged by the near fatal crash.

Their design was simplicity itself.

100 years later & we come up with some over hyped monstrosity,that can't even deliver!

What a shambles!

[59n1tr0n72]

makes u wonder, 'cause most of the record cars of the day were Piston-engined, so could they do something to improve the performance by changing the engine?

[m1leswilliams]

It delivered today. What a stupid comment.

[steveBB30]

Like most forms of muscle power horse's have a thermal efficency of about 15%. Petrol engines are about 20%, meaning petrol cars will use less fuel/food, and produce less C02 per unit of power than a horse.

Mind you given that this car has boilers of 3MW heating power, and an output power of 268 kW it's thermal efficency must be less than 9%

steam engines CAN be made a lot more efficent given appropriate space/mass. Consider that coal fired power stations get on for 42 % thermal efficency.

[ginnidorka]

If you think you could attain efficiencies of a coal power plant from a mobile steam engine you have lost your mind.

You talk all this shit about efficiency. A steam engine not only needs fuel but also needs a whole lot of water on top of that. Now compare this with an engine that only needs fuel. Even a retard could make the right choice.

Coal power plant must be soo nice that everyone seems to be talking about shutting them down.

Steam engines are in the past and belong in a museum.

[ekiss2010]

If you stupid idiots (environmentalist) wanted to save the planet then you would covert to horses. or other non man made things.

[prodprod]

This isn't a steam *fueled* car, any more than steam locomotives were fueled by steam. They're fueled by whatever they use to heat the water -- coal, wood, propane, gasoline, small animals.

The question is what level of carbon emissions you get moving a certain weight a certain distance, whether burning propane to make steam, or running a coal-burning power plant to produce electricity to charge batteries to drive an electric car.

[Sluggosaurus]

so your pretty much going against what a bunch of scientists that have most likely gotten a PHD in engineering say?

[prodprod]

No scientist or engineer would claim that this car, or any car "runs on steam."

To say that steam propels the car is no different than saying that the engine propels the car.

Steam isn't a fuel any more than a battery is a fuel.

It is simply a way of storing energy in the form of heat, just as a battery stores electrical energy.

Neither is a primary source of energy like the sun, or geothermal, or nuclear power or even a secondary source like hydro-carbon fuel or wind/water/tide.

[soulesslemming]

Actually since steam is the source that turns the turbine this is technically a steam POWERED car (complete BS I agree) the same as NASA's shuttle is technically a "glider". I know where your coming from but internal combustion is internal combustion no matter diesel, propane etc.& the same principle applies here.

[radicledude]

Shut the fudge up you fudging chain mail bastard

[lankey32]

Oh ok ! water , propane =steam yeah sounds real fucking efficient along with a huge garage and it doesnt steer for shit !

[steveBB30]

3 Megawatts heating power from the boiler

268 kw from the engine

= 9% efficency

Double steam car (circa 1931)

Boiler heating2150000 BTU/hr =629.5424kW

Engine output 120 hp =89.48398

7% efficency

Must be because it's car. Steam plant used in power stations is about 42%

[airr916]

i hope they dont get those out in the real world, if they do the whole fucking road will be so foggy.

[zaku32888]

Steam dissipates, dumb ass.

[2uberu]

steam is not a fuel

[b5201]

steampunk?

[steveBB30]

Kind of...

But why throw the baby out with the (hot) bathwater

Efficency can be much improved, and the exhaust is FAR cleaner than the internal combustion

[PrivateSlacker]

It needs a special kind of propane. Unfortunately its only found in Iran.

[Specter1957]

propane i propane........same hydrocarbon string the world around

[ItsMunciBearcat11]

wow ur stupid u belive in these stupid thing

[ginnidorka]

Thats why people without engineering degrees should be banned from commenting about anything relating to the issue. The only thing different is they are using propane instead of gasoline as fuel which really does not make that much of a difference. Plus carrying all that water weight will reduce the efficiency of the system which these nitwits did not take into account. So you arts people commenting on this video "Please shut the fuck up."

[steveBB30]

If you had an engineering Degree you'd understand the thermodynamic cycles are RADICALLY differerent.

True though about propane/gasoline

extra mass only makes a difference with acceleration, or when climbing/decending hills.

NB victorian steam engines were CRAFTED (a cross between art and engineering)

[ginnidorka]

Now why did I ask the arts fucktards to shut the fuck up. Because they don't know what asinine crap come out of their mouths.Guess this idiot here even lack elementary physics knowledge. Douche it take more energy to move something with higher mass. Also a steam engine would be bigger than the conventional engine leading to a bigger car. This would lead to more drag due to higher surface area. Larger cars would also cause traffic problems on the road. One dimensional like a arts fag you are.

[steveBB30]

(I did Mech eng not art at Uni)

yes I do know E=0.5m*v*v

but that energy is only added during acceleration, has nothing to do with keeping it moving, It is possible to get significant amounts of back during deceleration (easy with an engine that runs on heat- consider using brake discs as supplimentary boiler?)

drag is because of CdA.

High efficencies can be obtained with small plant, due to non-linearities that happen within tiny boilers/condenser. Real Issue is transfer area not mass...

[ginnidorka]

Yeah in accordance to your first answer. We are not looking for a train but a car which accelerates and decelerates several times over short distances. Those losses for energy due to high mass would make it impossible for the car to be any good.

Talking about surface drag idealizing flow over car to be flow over flat plate.

Running coolant through the brake drums requires pumps for the coolant and a heat exchanger adding more mass.

[steveBB30]

So main objection is down to vehicle mass?

Large mass is a fair point....

But what about using micro heat exchangers rather than tube baised boilers? They have considerably higher performance for a given mass/volume.

If HXs are vastly smaller, then it's much easier to fit a closed steam cycle in a vehicle. That then greatly reduces how much water needs to be carried. Likely less water would more than offset mass of aditional hx/condenser. It also improves cycle efficency, meaning less fuel

[adj789]

this looks like a very sound and practical means of fixing our worlds problems

[AcowpieB]

I think the should power cars with human baby's. That'll help control our explosive population growth and cut back on road construction.

[Stickyboogarz]

Babies, the other white gas.

[BinkieMcFartnuggets]

All cars should be powered by steam, steam or human urine, either one; perhaps even steamy human urine.

[Skurgefaust]

piss foam powered

[demonofrazgriz333]

@BinkieMcFartnuggets i am so confused by that statment...