Lol what a fucking hypocrite. The GOP attacked Obama on his religion, not even because of anything HE has said, but just because his priest has said some stupid things in his life. But when Sarah Palin makes retarded statements about her religion out of HER OWN MOUTH, somehow this is off limits? What a fucking retard Bushanan is
Healthcare doesnt pay the rent, put food on the table, pay utilities. Americans need jobs, jobs, jobs. When unemployment rate is at 10%, your propose a bill that will jail American for not paying.!!! Democrats, are you on board with this? We are living from paycheck to paycheck. Unemployment is at 10%+ and you focus on healthcare and jailing us?
@yesilike101 And that's why you need the public option ... so these people out of jobs can still have their health looked after! As for "jail americans for not paying" that just shows your ignorance! You don't even bother to inform yourself. You just listen to the lies and shit propaganda fed to you by the likes of FOX faux news. You're angry? You should be! At FOX and the Republicans for making a moron out of you!
Pat Buchanan is an American Patriot. No one has stuck up for the American worker screwed by massive immigration and phony free trade like Pat has done. Have you joined Numbersusa yet. Join their million members that fax their Senators for free on immigration. Unlimited never ending immigratin is colonization. Join Numbersusa, no cost to join, only costs your country if you don't.
I do not think there is much evidence that Palin is a religious nut. I would not vote for her anyway, she lacks experience in dealing with a rabidly capitalistic media. I think Newt Gingrich is going to be the GOP candidate at the next election.
Just about every faith in the world has means of identifying and purging demons. A lot of these things are taken out of context. Her faith is just standard protestant.
Capitalism in excess is degenerative, exploitative and cruel. Even Reagan knew that there had to be many restrictions on capitalism. The modern media is an example of capitalistic excess in my opinion.
But there are no such things as witches. If a person is under the impression that she requires some magical incantation in order to protect her from something that doesn't actually exist, then she's nuts. If large numbers of people share this view, they're also nuts.
Yes, capitalism unfettered is disastrous, which is why all developed nations have a mixed economy. What do you mean about the media being an example of "capitalistic excess"?
So what if there are no such thing as witches apart from the odd type of new age. It is a part of her faith, or it might have just been a justure of generousity to a more eccentric member of her faith. Who cares? It has nothing to do with how she practically governs.
What if she wore a garlic necklace to ward off vampires? Or slaughtered animals in order to appease the gods?
Superstition is superstition, regardless of whether it is part of a person's "faith." Palin is fundamentally irrational, which makes me question her fitness to govern. (Plus, her ignorance of larger political issues is abject.)
Some of the greatest leaders of history did do absurd religious stuff like sacrificing animals. They were still great leaders.
You seems to object to leaders having any faith, which would exclude Obama as well. Is this an atheist supremacist advocation?
Look, you might see her religion as superstition, even I might, but at the end of the day, I do not have the same experiences as Palin and I respect her individual liberty to interpret her experiences to the best of her ability.
When an idea is proven wrong, then wise people reject it. Behaviors that might have seemed reasonable hundreds or thousands of years ago would, and should, appear ridiculous today. I'm sure there were great Aztec leaders who threw virgins into volcanoes to appease the gods, but I'm sure you'd agree that someone who did that TODAY would be insane.
Of course I respect Sarah Palin's right to believe in whatever nonsense she wants. But irrational beliefs reflect poorly on the believer.
I'm not an atheist, and I've voted for people of varying religious views.
Some kinds of religious faith are vague and nebulous enough to be unfalsifiable. But others faith are clearly and indisputably WRONG, and people who subscribe to ideas that are blatantly incorrect show a glaring lack of intellectual integrity. Those are the kind of people I do NOT want in positions of political power.
BTW, do you REALLY think that Obama is a Christian?
@pscucailin Separation of church and state ... she doesn't believe this is in the constitution. Now THAT'S dangerous! No one cares what nonsense anyone believes in until they are trying to integrate it with the office of the President! Get it?
Well, she doesn't limit herself to the tame ones. Maddow has some guts to have exchanges with Buchanan as a regular feature. Buchanan, of course, is right as always.
If you haven't read his 'A Republic, Not an Empire' on foreign policy, and 'The Great Betrayal' on economics and trade policy, .... you're depriving yourself of two great compilations of the relevant facts on those two crucial areas of American life. And they're fun reads.
Maddow lied when she says that Palin prayed that God was going to be on the US side...Palin prayed merely that the US were doing that what was part o Gods plan. As did Lincoln. And yes, the media trashed Palin or her pregnant daughter while giving Obama a free pass for his 20 year membership of a racist church and links with terrorists Dohrn and Ayers.
This was a more of an debate than in interview! I LOVE how Rachel Maddow stands her ground no matter what! Shes so intelligent and honest is almost too goood to believe but here she is!.
Why does the GOP want separate rules? Cause they are nasty people. They are nuts. They can't play fair on anything. They also know that there are lots of voters who foolishly buy into their BS so they lay it on really thick and watch the fools lap it up. How about we elect a really intelligent ticket this time and leave the dunces counting their toes?
You sure didn't get this upset about the slurs about Obama's wife, or H. Clinton for that matter.
If you're going to be this incensed, it has to be for ALL political figures, not just righties, otherwise you're just putting on an act/lying.
People CHEERED at the Republickin' convention when the media is bashed cuz they've been fed that line by the same people that the "MSM is right wing". That only flies in Amerika.
As in: "One of the few commentators on Amerikan tee vee that will actually challenge the official lies/propaganda put oot by the right, the Bush Theocracy, and the right leaning MSM."?
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Ugh, what a dyke. Can hardly even stand to look at her. Her show will not last long. It's so telling that her first guest is a genuine American conservative and patriot, because that's what Americans will always respond to (witness the Sarah Palin phenomenon). Without Pat, her first show ratings would be just like all of Air America's ratings. ...a bull dyke spouting rug-munching anti-American uber-liberal coummunism. Oh, yeah, there lies the soul of America, alright. Stupid MSNBC! Ha Ha! :D
"Tim Lahayes books sold 40 million copies" So what's your point Pat, that there are 40 million religious nutbags out there who can't wait for Jebus to return and rature them while the rest of us burn in the lake of fire. What a moron
Hard to know what to say to such a nothing statement, lilgrasshoppah. Since most modern liberals are developmentally arrested, immature, overly-emotional children usually unfamiliar with structured thought, who the f*ck could ever guess what a liberal might accept as a "valid" argument? How about a "rational" argument? No, becuase libs are uncomfortable with rational rhetioric and almost can't even recognize it, because it's just not the world they live in at the national political level.
So, writing Sarah off as a "bull dyke" is your definition of a rational argument? What is, "Rug-munching, anti-American uber-liberal communism"? Another rational argument?
I'd send you to a website on Logical Fallacies, but I have no doubt you will be working out of John McCain's play book. "H'yuk! I kain't work this here inanets!"
There will always be an insourmountable difference between Maddow and the trashy wannabe things that go by the name of Coulter and malkin,for heavens Sake!!
I have to agree with Buchanan more than Maddow on this one. This is why I don't watch her show - it would have been a lot more interesting if MSNBC had done their own version of Hannity and Colmes with "Buchanan and Maddow".
Palin is a Jesus freak. If Biden had said something similar, he would have been grilled similarly by the press. Pat Buchanan is getting too old and cranky to be a guest. I'm ready to see Palin and Biden in a debate!
I disagree, I think Pat is a relatively objective Republican and I think this debate was lively and possibly the best part of the show because Rachel is GREAT at debating.
Obama and the Chicago Tribune sat down for 90 minutes back in March to disassemble the whole relationship. (headline: Barack Obama: I trusted Rezko)
And William Ayers is the most insignificant cog... it's not even funny. But, here's another headline you can look at. (headline: Files linking Obama to '60s radical a hot commodity)
Or you could just ignore what I'm sending you and continue to proclaim ignorance. Fine by me.
the obama campaign has released statements on ayers - not sure about the rezko thing. Theres a difference between fielding certain questions on your mind, and not fielding any questions at all.
Funny you call her a fool. She's a Rhodes scholar and a journalist who does her research. Do you have a problem with people smarter then you exercising a meassure of their inteligence when discussing politics and the issues of the day?
Maddow is a simpleton.
atomicdogg97 6 months ago in playlist Rachel Maddow vs Pat Buchanan
Buchanan is a fucking bully who has wet dreams about turning this country into a theocracy. God save us from unrepentant fascists like him and Palin!
hznfrst 6 months ago
Lol what a fucking hypocrite. The GOP attacked Obama on his religion, not even because of anything HE has said, but just because his priest has said some stupid things in his life. But when Sarah Palin makes retarded statements about her religion out of HER OWN MOUTH, somehow this is off limits? What a fucking retard Bushanan is
durhamdf 9 months ago
Rachel Maddow seems to me to have a smarmy sarcastic way about her. It's irritating.
educheny 1 year ago
nice fake journalism
judoskeleton 1 year ago
Don't you just love this planet?
FritzOmnibus 1 year ago
How about Job care reform?
Healthcare doesnt pay the rent, put food on the table, pay utilities. Americans need jobs, jobs, jobs. When unemployment rate is at 10%, your propose a bill that will jail American for not paying.!!! Democrats, are you on board with this? We are living from paycheck to paycheck. Unemployment is at 10%+ and you focus on healthcare and jailing us?
Hello, nobody home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yesilike101 1 year ago 3
@yesilike101 And that's why you need the public option ... so these people out of jobs can still have their health looked after! As for "jail americans for not paying" that just shows your ignorance! You don't even bother to inform yourself. You just listen to the lies and shit propaganda fed to you by the likes of FOX faux news. You're angry? You should be! At FOX and the Republicans for making a moron out of you!
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rocketsredglare101 2 years ago
Pat pwns again
pscucailin 2 years ago
He got the better of Maddow in this discussion, but it doesn't detract from the fact that Sarah Palin is a religious nut.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
I do not think there is much evidence that Palin is a religious nut. I would not vote for her anyway, she lacks experience in dealing with a rabidly capitalistic media. I think Newt Gingrich is going to be the GOP candidate at the next election.
pscucailin 2 years ago
A Pentecostal minister anointed Sarah Palin in order to protect her from witches. Nuts.
I like Gingrich now. The years seem to have mellowed him.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
Just about every faith in the world has means of identifying and purging demons. A lot of these things are taken out of context. Her faith is just standard protestant.
Capitalism in excess is degenerative, exploitative and cruel. Even Reagan knew that there had to be many restrictions on capitalism. The modern media is an example of capitalistic excess in my opinion.
pscucailin 2 years ago
But there are no such things as witches. If a person is under the impression that she requires some magical incantation in order to protect her from something that doesn't actually exist, then she's nuts. If large numbers of people share this view, they're also nuts.
Yes, capitalism unfettered is disastrous, which is why all developed nations have a mixed economy. What do you mean about the media being an example of "capitalistic excess"?
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
So what if there are no such thing as witches apart from the odd type of new age. It is a part of her faith, or it might have just been a justure of generousity to a more eccentric member of her faith. Who cares? It has nothing to do with how she practically governs.
pscucailin 2 years ago
What if she wore a garlic necklace to ward off vampires? Or slaughtered animals in order to appease the gods?
Superstition is superstition, regardless of whether it is part of a person's "faith." Palin is fundamentally irrational, which makes me question her fitness to govern. (Plus, her ignorance of larger political issues is abject.)
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
Some of the greatest leaders of history did do absurd religious stuff like sacrificing animals. They were still great leaders.
You seems to object to leaders having any faith, which would exclude Obama as well. Is this an atheist supremacist advocation?
Look, you might see her religion as superstition, even I might, but at the end of the day, I do not have the same experiences as Palin and I respect her individual liberty to interpret her experiences to the best of her ability.
pscucailin 2 years ago
When an idea is proven wrong, then wise people reject it. Behaviors that might have seemed reasonable hundreds or thousands of years ago would, and should, appear ridiculous today. I'm sure there were great Aztec leaders who threw virgins into volcanoes to appease the gods, but I'm sure you'd agree that someone who did that TODAY would be insane.
Of course I respect Sarah Palin's right to believe in whatever nonsense she wants. But irrational beliefs reflect poorly on the believer.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
I'm not an atheist, and I've voted for people of varying religious views.
Some kinds of religious faith are vague and nebulous enough to be unfalsifiable. But others faith are clearly and indisputably WRONG, and people who subscribe to ideas that are blatantly incorrect show a glaring lack of intellectual integrity. Those are the kind of people I do NOT want in positions of political power.
BTW, do you REALLY think that Obama is a Christian?
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
@pscucailin Separation of church and state ... she doesn't believe this is in the constitution. Now THAT'S dangerous! No one cares what nonsense anyone believes in until they are trying to integrate it with the office of the President! Get it?
nvieira100 1 year ago
What's wrong with capitalism?
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
I find it Ironic that she named that segment "Its Pat." Just like the SNL sketch of the same name, I cannot tell weather Rachel is a man or a woman.
Cenamark2 2 years ago
das bitch RAchel madow ニューハーフ
1949FUCKUSA 2 years ago
Well, she doesn't limit herself to the tame ones. Maddow has some guts to have exchanges with Buchanan as a regular feature. Buchanan, of course, is right as always.
If you haven't read his 'A Republic, Not an Empire' on foreign policy, and 'The Great Betrayal' on economics and trade policy, .... you're depriving yourself of two great compilations of the relevant facts on those two crucial areas of American life. And they're fun reads.
ProNorden 2 years ago
If you call being close minded and stubborn and refusing to listen "standing your ground," then yeah, I guess that's what Maddow did.
plangentmusic 2 years ago
I did not like this ..show
Rachael is usually much more..upbeat
Buchcannon ruined the show with his carping
LostLadyElgin 2 years ago
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Wow - ugly dyke.
fukprc 2 years ago
Maddow lied when she says that Palin prayed that God was going to be on the US side...Palin prayed merely that the US were doing that what was part o Gods plan. As did Lincoln. And yes, the media trashed Palin or her pregnant daughter while giving Obama a free pass for his 20 year membership of a racist church and links with terrorists Dohrn and Ayers.
henrydevries22 2 years ago
Oh, crap. Rachel's off her meds again.
beaglenuts55 2 years ago
Rwar!!
This was a more of an debate than in interview! I LOVE how Rachel Maddow stands her ground no matter what! Shes so intelligent and honest is almost too goood to believe but here she is!.
Go Maddow! :D
michina1987 3 years ago
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Rachaels nickname in College was "lickalotapuss". The mean ones called her 'cuntbreath'.
flyboymd82 3 years ago
I love Rachel Maddow! She is smart and she is honest! She knows what she is talking about!
padude64 3 years ago 7
Rachel Maddow is just an Olbermann clone. The only difference between the two is that Maddow has a penis.
Cenamark2 2 years ago
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im not tryin to be funny,but how butch is that woman??maybe she does'nt like palin coz shes pretty.
david7k 3 years ago
Fuck, I would sell my left lung to be even half as smart as Rachel.
ottopotomas 3 years ago 7
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wow. rachel maddow is a train wreck.
CanefromtheChi 3 years ago
Sorry, I just have to say this once, and I will never laugh at MSNBC screen captions again.
IT'S PAT!
lol...
fryersoncaptain 3 years ago 3
Pat, go home...
YJAA08 3 years ago
Why does the GOP want separate rules? Cause they are nasty people. They are nuts. They can't play fair on anything. They also know that there are lots of voters who foolishly buy into their BS so they lay it on really thick and watch the fools lap it up. How about we elect a really intelligent ticket this time and leave the dunces counting their toes?
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guxavuno 3 years ago
yes pat kkk usa
men2c 3 years ago
roflllllll... Pat Buchanan and his karate chops... classic
abruzz0 3 years ago
kkk baby
men2c 3 years ago
OH Pat!
You sure didn't get this upset about the slurs about Obama's wife, or H. Clinton for that matter.
If you're going to be this incensed, it has to be for ALL political figures, not just righties, otherwise you're just putting on an act/lying.
People CHEERED at the Republickin' convention when the media is bashed cuz they've been fed that line by the same people that the "MSM is right wing". That only flies in Amerika.
ROOKTABULA 3 years ago 2
What the hell is this... the male version of Keith Olbermann??
yoktom0401 3 years ago
ah-hyuk ah-hyuk
It's easy to see Buchanan's views on Gays and Lesbians. He's pretty sure he's still got a chance with Rachel.
whalleybanger 3 years ago
As in: "One of the few commentators on Amerikan tee vee that will actually challenge the official lies/propaganda put oot by the right, the Bush Theocracy, and the right leaning MSM."?
Yup.
ROOKTABULA 3 years ago
If Mitt Romney is a 'moderate' Republican, then Charles Manson was a 'moderate' murderer.
HerHighness73 3 years ago 3
Surely you jest. Do you even know the platform he campaigned on?
1993CorradoSLC 3 years ago
Billow style conservatism:
1. Pedantic assertion that private opinions are facts.
2. Hostility, when challenged... including racist, sexist, homophobic insults.
3. Lies.
4. Cowardly retreat.
Waiting on numero quatro, Senor Jtom.
cue Jeopardy music....
lilgrasshoppah 3 years ago 2
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Ugh, what a dyke. Can hardly even stand to look at her. Her show will not last long. It's so telling that her first guest is a genuine American conservative and patriot, because that's what Americans will always respond to (witness the Sarah Palin phenomenon). Without Pat, her first show ratings would be just like all of Air America's ratings. ...a bull dyke spouting rug-munching anti-American uber-liberal coummunism. Oh, yeah, there lies the soul of America, alright. Stupid MSNBC! Ha Ha! :D
jthomas12793 3 years ago
I'm a black Evangelical Democrat. I think Rachel's show is very informative. It's a good progressive show.
Go Rachel!!!!
Furiousblue42 3 years ago 2
"Tim Lahayes books sold 40 million copies" So what's your point Pat, that there are 40 million religious nutbags out there who can't wait for Jebus to return and rature them while the rest of us burn in the lake of fire. What a moron
agnosticman77 3 years ago
And the other side (like obama's former pastor) believes that the CIA created AIDS to exterminate blacks.
Mass democracy is a big mistake.
fieldmarshalmodel 3 years ago
3 Words: "Learn to spell"
Spazm2007 3 years ago
It's called writing fast you sarcastic fuck. Blow me!
agnosticman77 3 years ago
I am tired of conservatives. Not a single valid argument. Ever.
lilgrasshoppah 3 years ago
Hard to know what to say to such a nothing statement, lilgrasshoppah. Since most modern liberals are developmentally arrested, immature, overly-emotional children usually unfamiliar with structured thought, who the f*ck could ever guess what a liberal might accept as a "valid" argument? How about a "rational" argument? No, becuase libs are uncomfortable with rational rhetioric and almost can't even recognize it, because it's just not the world they live in at the national political level.
jthomas12793 3 years ago
So, writing Sarah off as a "bull dyke" is your definition of a rational argument? What is, "Rug-munching, anti-American uber-liberal communism"? Another rational argument?
I'd send you to a website on Logical Fallacies, but I have no doubt you will be working out of John McCain's play book. "H'yuk! I kain't work this here inanets!"
lilgrasshoppah 3 years ago
There will always be an insourmountable difference between Maddow and the trashy wannabe things that go by the name of Coulter and malkin,for heavens Sake!!
tapasimd 3 years ago 2
I cant believe Pat went there about Rev. Wright
For one he should know better than that.
Two that arguement didnt even help his point
Rev. Wright is his own man if Palin is letting religious BS come out of her then she needs to answer to it
Dena119 3 years ago
Let God lead Pat off of this network...he's way too good to be surrounded by talentless wastes of space.
What? Too religious for you?
peddler66 3 years ago
Man, she's a horrible host....
Really? This was the answer to MSNBC's poor ratings?
I'm glad I'm not a share-holder...
peddler66 3 years ago
I have to agree with Buchanan more than Maddow on this one. This is why I don't watch her show - it would have been a lot more interesting if MSNBC had done their own version of Hannity and Colmes with "Buchanan and Maddow".
Nominay 3 years ago
Thats actually a good idea.
axisboldas 3 years ago
Palin is a Jesus freak. If Biden had said something similar, he would have been grilled similarly by the press. Pat Buchanan is getting too old and cranky to be a guest. I'm ready to see Palin and Biden in a debate!
TabOraSunset 3 years ago
they talk about the Pastor, but neglect to mention John McCain praising Pat Robertson, with all his controversial views
mamazma 3 years ago
I love Rachel, but I cannot watch this. Pat makes me ill.
GawdMachine 3 years ago
I know. It was like watching Fox for Democrats. They just bickered.
chopin65 3 years ago
I love Rachel Maddow just as much (maybe even more!) as the next liberal, but WOW - she just got her ass handed to her by Pat!
DaiMer82 3 years ago
"racist, anti-white pastor"?
ridiculous.
foolchild0 3 years ago 2
Rachel should never have Pat on the show again!
OhioDemocrat 3 years ago
I disagree, I think Pat is a relatively objective Republican and I think this debate was lively and possibly the best part of the show because Rachel is GREAT at debating.
tcMEmperor 3 years ago
Actually he isn't he got at Palin just as hard
rell127 3 years ago
Yes I do like it when Rachel puts Pat in his place.
OhioDemocrat 3 years ago
can't someone put pat buchanan to pasture?
foolchild0 3 years ago
Rick Davis looks like an evil little man to me
Wisdomwalker 3 years ago
Rachel, couldn't you be more original on your first show than to have Buchanan as a guest? Get someone on who isn't a talking head.
anotherday24 3 years ago
there's no such thing as a "moderate Republican".
oxymoron, like "military intelligence".
peace to all.
baronmorris 3 years ago 3
CANCEL THE "IT'S PAT!" SEGMENT PLEASE!!
he doesn't deserve to be on the air.
annoying hothead.
baronmorris 3 years ago 4
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Pat really hit the nail on the head with this biggoted host. Maddow is a leftist pitbull without liptstick.
sennari 3 years ago
If the right can have Fox Noise then the lefvt should have Rachel Madow!!!
uyd 3 years ago 3
Obama and the Chicago Tribune sat down for 90 minutes back in March to disassemble the whole relationship. (headline: Barack Obama: I trusted Rezko)
And William Ayers is the most insignificant cog... it's not even funny. But, here's another headline you can look at. (headline: Files linking Obama to '60s radical a hot commodity)
Or you could just ignore what I'm sending you and continue to proclaim ignorance. Fine by me.
eljefereal 3 years ago 4
the obama campaign has released statements on ayers - not sure about the rezko thing. Theres a difference between fielding certain questions on your mind, and not fielding any questions at all.
driubi 3 years ago 3
The level of that debate certainly throws down the gauntlet to Billo, Hannity and the other Fox types.
w0033944 3 years ago 3
I love that Rachel has her own show.
hunterswine 3 years ago 23
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I hope its canceled. She's a fool.
sennari 3 years ago
Funny you call her a fool. She's a Rhodes scholar and a journalist who does her research. Do you have a problem with people smarter then you exercising a meassure of their inteligence when discussing politics and the issues of the day?
uyd 3 years ago 20
Pat is a liar. He knows exactly what she said.
crumbinator 3 years ago 7
Pat is wrong when he says Palin isn't saying it's gods plan.
Word for word Palin said:
"Our leaders....Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from god."
watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs&feature=related
timg455 3 years ago 7
She's a fake. Another Manchurian candidate.
cosmlayla 3 years ago 9
lol i was thinking the same thing
jax1492 3 years ago 5
Why do you think they're waiting so long to let her do interviews?
They want to inform her on what's going on and stuff.. (NWO? Illuminati? Cheney's hunting incident?)
LeoKinoske 3 years ago 4
They're working on teaching her how to pronounce Ahmadenijad.
eljefereal 3 years ago 6