Good point. You could use the FV (flash value lock) so there would be no pre flash. Or you good pre set it all in manual (the sb800 would have to be manual in su-4 mode anyway) if the conditions aren't stable enough.
Ok, how about this for a solution to the out of line of sight problem here?
Use the sb600 as the direct in line of sight slave from the camera' s commander flash. Put the sb800 behind the subject so it's out of sight of the camera's commander flash but in line of sight of the sb 600. Use the SU-4 mode on the sb 800 to pick up the sb600 flash to trigger it (the sb800). As yet I'm not 100% it will work as I haven't yet bought an sb800. If you have any experience could you post back please. Thanks
hi question I have a d90 as my master and an Sb800.
I borrowed an sb600.
I tried to put the sb600 and sb800 as slave I wanted use the sb600 as my backlight on the subject which is not within the line of sight of the d90 (master)
but the sb800 can be triggered and the flash of the sb800 can be seen by the sb600. But it can't trigger the sb600.
is there a way using the AWL/CLS to trigger the sb600 using the sb800 which is my slave
@marv0083 No, both slaves need to be able to detect the on-camera flash. They are very sensitive though. Be sure the sensor on the sb600 is pointed to wards a surface that will be hit by the camera flash and that may be enough unless it's outdoors. Also, test that it works without obstructions first. Another work-around would be to use a hot-shoe cable to run to the SB800 and run the SB800 as master. Or get pocket-wizards.
@bastian74 ohhh okay I thought the slaves signal can activate the sb600 behind my subject thanks for the tip! how about the Su-800 must the sensor be in the line of sight of the Speedlights to activate it or will it trigger speedlights even behind obstacle ?
@marv0083 No the su800 works the same way, just with IR light. If there is an object near the slave that is hit by the master's bounce light you may be able to get away with it. I can usually hide slaves around corners if the master's control flashes light up the room enough for the bounce light to hit the slave. Or you could use a mirror and some trial and error.
you can put more than one flash on same channel and group. you are not limited to two three and four flashes. You're only limited by number of groups you can create.
Good point. You could use the FV (flash value lock) so there would be no pre flash. Or you good pre set it all in manual (the sb800 would have to be manual in su-4 mode anyway) if the conditions aren't stable enough.
paulrobertsimages 1 year ago
Ok, how about this for a solution to the out of line of sight problem here?
Use the sb600 as the direct in line of sight slave from the camera' s commander flash. Put the sb800 behind the subject so it's out of sight of the camera's commander flash but in line of sight of the sb 600. Use the SU-4 mode on the sb 800 to pick up the sb600 flash to trigger it (the sb800). As yet I'm not 100% it will work as I haven't yet bought an sb800. If you have any experience could you post back please. Thanks
paulrobertsimages 1 year ago
@paulrobertsimages Maybe if the sb600 are not using iTTL because the exposure measuring pre-flash would set off the sb800 in that mode.
bastian74 1 year ago
hi question I have a d90 as my master and an Sb800.
I borrowed an sb600.
I tried to put the sb600 and sb800 as slave I wanted use the sb600 as my backlight on the subject which is not within the line of sight of the d90 (master)
but the sb800 can be triggered and the flash of the sb800 can be seen by the sb600. But it can't trigger the sb600.
is there a way using the AWL/CLS to trigger the sb600 using the sb800 which is my slave
marv0083 1 year ago
@marv0083 No, both slaves need to be able to detect the on-camera flash. They are very sensitive though. Be sure the sensor on the sb600 is pointed to wards a surface that will be hit by the camera flash and that may be enough unless it's outdoors. Also, test that it works without obstructions first. Another work-around would be to use a hot-shoe cable to run to the SB800 and run the SB800 as master. Or get pocket-wizards.
bastian74 1 year ago
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marv0083 1 year ago
@bastian74 ohhh okay I thought the slaves signal can activate the sb600 behind my subject thanks for the tip! how about the Su-800 must the sensor be in the line of sight of the Speedlights to activate it or will it trigger speedlights even behind obstacle ?
marv0083 1 year ago
@marv0083 No the su800 works the same way, just with IR light. If there is an object near the slave that is hit by the master's bounce light you may be able to get away with it. I can usually hide slaves around corners if the master's control flashes light up the room enough for the bounce light to hit the slave. Or you could use a mirror and some trial and error.
bastian74 1 year ago
you can put more than one flash on same channel and group. you are not limited to two three and four flashes. You're only limited by number of groups you can create.
igotouno 1 year ago
@igotouno and by the amount of cash you have. :P Sorry I forgot to mention that.
bastian74 1 year ago
Thanks for the video. Lots of information.
brilliantboy88 1 year ago