Red Alert 3 Soviet Quick Tech Build Order

[MacSketch]

this is not a strategy

[pasfro]

sorry, i don't like your build either, you are a siting duck this way, until your twinblade has spawned.

this build could get cheesed by early infantry.

also your suv is highly vonurable to terror drones (like you said) but also pretty easy to pick off, if the oponent goes for a naval build, which you don't know, cause you don't scout his build until you have commited already.

[XxEA20xX]

why is your graphics that bad?

[lonshy21]

i could beat the shit out of u in the first 3 minutes

[TheBioBeast]

@lonshy21 I could beat the shit out of you in the first 10 seconds. In real life.

[lonshy21]

@TheBioBeast You dont even know who i am, your probably some dumbass 10 year old trying to impress people.

[TheBioBeast]

@lonshy21 You're right, I don't know who you are. But assuming that you're capable of beating this guy in Red Alert 3 within the 3 first minutes, I presume that you play this game alot, instead of acctually being outside. This concludes that you're probably just some fat, nerdy loser who couldn't beat a fly in a physical confrontation. But you can however beat the Rising Sun as Soviets.

And no, I'm not trying to impress anyone.

[ShantyManCan]

If you were agaisnt Empire and they pulled dojo rush you would be dead.

[iBoondox]

the only problem here is in a real game before you had your first wall up you wouldv been tank buster rushed

[Josh14leeds1]

you would get hammered by me seriously you have no defense

[bustergaa]

@Josh14leeds1 Im sure the guy knows, its a quick tech order so he video does the job, personally when your soviets, for the love of god use a war factory, their ground units are amazing!

[RUL1S88]

What if he's making a great aircraft at beginning? Isn't it better to start off building anti-air defense cannons?

[RUL1S88]

This technique is actually good, much better than the ones you find on then internet.

[RUL1S88]

Use this technique and I'll come to you with my force while you won't have a single troop to defend yourself thus you're fucked.

[darkness12375]

Look at his MCV it's just going round in circles . just look at the opponent!!

[darkness12375]

Well this is mine: reactor, CC , ref X2 , SR X2 ,cc X2, battle lab , airbase, warfactory(sputnik).

Then u expand: build 2 tesla coils and 2 flak towers for defence then a cc then a super reactor then a naval yard/war fact then an air base then pump out kirovs an dreds/apocs then DESTROY!!!!!!!

[xZibeGx]

U could go whit Reactor -> barracks -> 1. refinery and scouts / engineers -> 2. refinery and bears if enemy makes infantry rush -> Super reactor -> war factory/air thingy/navy -> start making ur little army -> crusher crane -> battle lab(U dont need it if u go whit low tier rush) -> 2. Super reactor if needed (u can make walls for the refinerys, or turrets for defence if u wana)

[Darkness0111]

i need some fucking help with this game.. i got it for ps3 and once i think im doing really good some fucking fag comes in and kills all my shit. its fucking pissing the shit outta me

[lakko22]

i do this for when i play against the japs

barrachs straight off

- 1-3 bears for scouting when i discover if they make infranty i make all the bears offensive directly in front of their dojo barracks etc

engineers for oil derricks and whatever

first refinery

war factory (if map is mostly land) sickles if they go infrantry . hammer tanks if other

super reactor

airfield start pumping out some twinblades and 2-4 migs to support them and normally i they dont have up turrets by time i have war fact

[vhhsairsoft]

@lakko22 dog/bear rushing is for noobs some guys will just put their barracks spawn in your base and crank out dogs, a cowards strategy, but i hate to admit its effectiveness. Sometimes people just put their dogs on the refinery point and you cant build. that pisses me off. If you cant tell im more of a late game guy.

[emotionalpunkboy]

starting with crusher crane is the best option!

cuz u get to build twice as fast!!

[FLYinMolOTOv]

your graphics suck

[feizhu123]

Few common mistakes u made.

trust me with my critisizm because i'm a master at ra3

First I would make barracks if i were you so that you can start raping the opponents with your dogs/bears or whatever unit u decide to create.

Then I would make a Reactor and build 2 ore refineries

then some defense and depending on what you want to create airfield/naval is up to you.

The rest u just have to keep on teching and don't let your money deplete too fast.Don't forget bout protocals and even-themout.

[PolTehPwnage]

@feizhu123

No no no, you're wrong. You start with a crusher crane, and from there you can enjoy the fact that you are always going to be 1 step ahead of your opponent.

[pickledpankake]

I would argue that in the case of air or sea it is best to create war factory/naval yard before the reactor so you can create a few primary units before you tech, after all the time spent on building is the same. (You can just let the units build at 1/2 speed in low power while you build the reactor if need be, because the build speed doesn't decrease as the soviets)

You are right though, Barracks should always be first (Unless you build a crusher crane)

[Tweakisher]

@feizhu123 which part of "Quick Tech build order" do you not understand?

[graveemporer]

this sucks

any good player would have u dead by 2:20. easy, he jus put dogs in ur building spots and vindy/freeze u. u should add a barracks in the beggining to prevent this. other than that, nice guide.

[grully012]

with this strategy if your opponent is smart he can attack you before you get your defense up, tsk tsk tsk tsk......

[bluezone3]

if you use this strategy, 1 v 1 soviets and ennemy is smart, it will be useless

with sov you need to get tanks out quickly

[Meishkin]

lol rofl noob rofl lol lol rofl noobs

[Binfieldius]

lol

[werevolf6]

hes right build a crusher crane and you will build your ore factorys een faster and start planing on building units

[Somestoner502]

why do you not start with crusher crane?

[Chrismyass01]

so i don't kill my economy

[Somestoner502]

im new but i start with 10k? and build a crusher crane first the barraks and power 1 ref + airsea or land then another 1 ref + air ,sea or land am i off or ranked you start with less?

[RUL1S88]

@Somestoner502

What a fucking noob.

[zabszi]

This is not too good, he can rush you with troopers, and you havent got defense...

[Chrismyass01]

no such thing as a perfect strategy ....

[Deyan65]

Power plant > Refinery > Naval Yard > Stingray rush lool :D

[Clynz111]

I am getting an xbox soon and love these games, this one looks amazing but is this an example of it on pc??

[Chrismyass01]

yes this is the pc version

[lnkicker]

so wait you didnt build a crane? why would you not 2x faster building i build power plant crane 2 refinery then let crane build super reactor while mcv moves to get in striking place with turrets

[Chrismyass01]

double the build speed also means double the resources going out and you can easily stagnate your economy, i would rather always have 1 finished building than 2 half built ones

[jonxbox]

well i do power plant>crane>2 refinerys>super reactor

well it works for me :P

[EloTheLast]

A friend told me that the rush build order as russia is Power plant>Refinery>War factory

As Russias strength is vehicles

[Chrismyass01]

this build order allows for more flexibility after all there is no poimt spamming tanks if your opponent has loads of anti tank units

[EloTheLast]

thats why your supposed to stop him from ever get that far

[Chrismyass01]

what if he goes for a water build and you have all these tanks and he shells you from the water, rush tactics are risky i am not a fan i would rather play a balanced biuld and beat them in the mid - late game

[EloTheLast]

Apoc... nuf said

[iamthedave3]

What? You can't 'rush' apocalypse tanks. By the time you're halfway there you'll be long dead to the tier 2 units you didn't bother to build.

[EloTheLast]

Works pretty good for me against Allies, it's troublesome against Japan tho, and no i dont bother using t2 units, i build a barracks and spam Flak-men, which rules out air and vehicles, by the time they find it appropriate to start using footsoldiers or A-Dog or Bears im good way halfway from finishing my last building before Apoc's, build a turrent here and there for anti Doggy or Bear-boy and it's almost a secured win, then i just need to rule out air when im at the enemy's base.....

[EloTheLast]

Oh and just incase you wanna bring it up, then water build ain't a problems Heli to Apoc tactics usualy get's them out of the way, if they're out of reach of your apoc tank then dont bother wait for him to get closer and drag him in with the sacondary ability of your apoc tanks

[iamthedave3]

Water build isn't a problem?

Against Rising Sun: Tengus destroy your helis.

Against Allies: Apollos destroy your helis.

Against Soviets: Bullfrogs and Migs destroy your helis.

Flak-men do not rule out vehicles, either. Sickles will kill a bunch of Flak troopers before going down, Tengu can usually ignore them and go after collectors (or destroy the small groups you've got defending said collectors)... and I don't know about Allies because my allies is abysmal.

[EloTheLast]

Sickles....... HAA!! with 45 flak-men at my disposal i dont think they're a problem, and thats within the first 5 minutes, my build order is weird the first think i do is build a barracks not a power plant..... im unconvensional thats why people got trouble with me, by the time you get your first sickle out i got 20 flak-men already, 20 flak-men > 1 sickle, with alittle hot key micro, your sickles ability to jump on soldiers is useless, it's all about micro against certain players........

[iamthedave3]

Most pro players build barracks first for scouting.

You want to go 20 Flak men? Be my guest. I'll hack them to bits with samurai or eat them with war bears. The more flaks you get, the more food for the bears.

[EloTheLast]

by the time i see a bear on its way ill make a few myself, while moving the flak men out of the way, they're safe and the bear can play with eachother, and samurai's same thing if you come with anything else then machines or aircrafts, ill start doing some bears for gorund defence....

but this is a useless discussion now, i found a tactic i like better so anyway, i get your points but everything can be countered, all about how good you are at reacting on peoples movements

[Chrismyass01]

wht don't the 2 of you just have a game ?

[EloTheLast]

Wish i could, but trying to resolve a problems keeping me from going online in the game <..<, so currently i only play lan with my people

[Chrismyass01]

ahh that sucks bigtime

[Ericosproduction]

I like the part at 0.29 the song is so cool :D

[Chrismyass01]

called hell march 3 :)

[Ericosproduction]

Thanks :D

[Mitchellkenn]

I find it agood idea to build recator>crusher>barrieks because then you get the second build quiue(?) early and and use the barricks to make engieneers to build battle bases and fill them with flak so you have a defence that can target air and land that dosen't use power. Other than that nice stratiegy

[KingHarkinian]

hm.. i think i'll stick to my own strat. ^^

you have some good points though, i use them aswell:)

Soviëts all the way :D

[KINGSprod]

no good! Because you can get rushed if you built 2 refinery's

[Chrismyass01]

yes but no strategy is perfect lol

[tudorasasinul]

Crusher crane -> 1 reactor 1 refinery -> 1 refinery 1 super reactor -> 1 naval yard 1 warfactory -> 1 airfield 1 battle lab -> 1 crusher crane -> vacuum imploder and iron curtain :d

[Mobile1551]

great strat dude, i need some help big time, i suck at this game....

I play age of empires 3, which is so much different. In RA3, its so easy to destroy buildings, and especially when u lose your con yard...its like gg right there.

But I guess it all depends on the strat. I'm gonna try this cuz twinblades rape, and TY MUCHO for the whole move the con yard around so u dont need sputnik, THATS SWEET

[Chrismyass01]

hehe glad i could help, i keep meaning to do more of these but i never get round to it :/

[ryanroberts1234]

spose it leaves u open to sikkles or mecha tengu right at the start but every strat has a weakness

[Chrismyass01]

yep i try to keep spends to a minimum so i can change on the fly easily

[lordjoey88]

I did try this build order in a few quick skirmishes against a easy AI (I'm new to the game.. but not to RTS) and it worked very well.. the next step is to try it with a medium AI I think, and then eventually go onto ranked online..

[khanny14]

hey chris...ur vid is fine but ders only 1 thing wrong... after a the first reactor, ur suppose 2 build a crusher crange cause dat lets u build 2 building at a time... the more crusher cranes u have the more u can build...for e.g. having 3 crusher cranes will allow u 2 build 3 different buildings, 3 defenes etc etc at the same time...think of the possibilities :)

[Chrismyass01]

but what you have to consider is the more cranes you have the faster you spend money and i would rather have 1 fully built refinery than say 2 half built ones sometimes an early crane is good but it does leave you more open to a double barracks rush

[khanny14]

good point...ur rite :)tried it da crane way and i failed online big time lol

[lordjoey88]

Say I go for a air attack early on how can I prevent against a land attack effectively other than placing turrets (which can be destroyed pretty easily it seems..) and also what if I go air and I find my opponent has alot of anti-air units?

[Chrismyass01]

well as you will have been capping ore nodes whils going through the build rder you should have a good deal of resources spare so switching to a land based offensive is pretty easy you simply put down a war factory

[onaidirev]

can you build multpile crusher cranes?

[Chrismyass01]

yes as many as you liek i think

[RIPfirefox]

if i cryo rushed your ass you would be DEAD

pp

ref

af

t2

vindicator

cryocopter

apollo

GG!

[Chrismyass01]

how constructive your criticism is ...... :/

[renoo27]

Hey dude would you recomend building a Crusher Crane after the Reactor so you can then start bulding two Refienries at once?

[Chrismyass01]

i experimented with that the other day actually and it does help i think it does help but you have to be careful as having 2 thing building at once can stagnate your economy

[renoo27]

Hm.. I noticed tried that out the other day and noticed another drawback. You'll need another Reactor before you build your two Refineries, cos otherwise you'll run out of power.

[Chrismyass01]

yes that is also true i ran dry in a 2v2 the other day as i forgot but it's not a massive drawback as you are normally building your super reactor as you go dry

[renoo27]

Coolcool. Errm... by the way you knew I was talking about if you build a Crusher Crane before two Refienries ya? Just to be clear.

[Chrismyass01]

yes i get ya

[Darkstar6638]

:D lol question for all those players.

Do you guys ever get real paranoid about the enemy plaer when playing a multiplayer game?

[renoo27]

Ohh heavily. :P

Well not so much in this game... knowledge is the key. You just gotta keep scuting your enemy.

[Chrismyass01]

well if i have 5 twinblades and you have 5 bears the fact that you know that isn't going to help you very much :P

you have to strike a balance and it's not like i don't scout atall if you notice i use my migs to scout as they aremuch quicker

[Nationsen]

Awesome vid!

[Chrismyass01]

cheers :D

[LukeGiordan]

Nice try, but by I usualy get a couple of drones early, meaning i just run around your towers and get your miners :/.

[Chrismyass01]

as japs ?

lol when fighting japs i don't wall i just put up 2 - 3 aa batteries which rape ur drones and tech to migs which means i own the air so i can basically shit on you with twinblades :)

[Chrismyass01]

thge time it would take you to get them would make it physically impossible lol

[UncleTip]

hmm i don't know. I just don't like the idea of not having scouts earlier. I'd at least get a barracks so i can check out the middle of the map and capture oil derricks.

[Chrismyass01]

the money you waste on them can stagnate your economy this is a high risk high reward strat

[Chivas6]

Are you serious? If you were playing anyone who did a double barracks build and rushed, you'd be dead. Surely this doesn't work very well in multiplayer?

[Chrismyass01]

9/10 times i have done this it has worked IN MP

your twinblades would be out by the time his inf gets to ur base + twinblades > inf and i usually have pillbox ot tesla couil down anyways + u can always monster truck ralley them lol.

only a n00b would get taken by db rush

[Darkstar6638]

yea was gonna say a double barracks rush is useless in MP its all about how fast you tech up

[Chrismyass01]

yeah i have infact beaten quite alot of double barrack rushes with a similar build order to this it would take alot of microing to with like that and as soon as i have desolator airstrike theyre pretty much screwed lol

[majorassisting]

more more more!!!

[knullbamse]

some amateurs posting vids on YT should check this one out - this is pro material! ;-)

[Chrismyass01]

hehe thanks mate i agree there are no good vids on youtube most are on game replays etc so i thought i would share some tips with the n000b players :D

[DrAsik100]

Can you win against a single brutal AI with the soviets ? I feel like your strategy would leave you way too vulnerable in the beginning, the AI rushes like mad. Personally, I can't win against alone against a brutal AI, I'm forced to make low-level defense units all the time, but he techs faster so eventually he gets the upper hand.

If you know how to beat a brutal AI, please post a video ! Thanks.

[jamie2142]

omfg orgasmic x i love u

[Beetz72]

poop in j00r mouth?

[Chrismyass01]

negative you like da bum bum

[2dood2]

Nice one, that'll come in handy!

[santan25]

good video - clear an informative ^^

[Chrismyass01]

hehe cheers :D