Selly Oak graffiti park

[RateBirmingham]

This guy knows fuck all.

[love2blovable]

Hi we are photographers based in west midlands. we really need a place with cool graffitti...can anyone please help?thanks :)

[BlinKatWstMids]

@mullaney3 right mate listen to this info okay . Graffiti artist dont start of by throwing up murials and peices unless the wack and copy other artists shit. first stage is toy and a tagger ,everyone starts there and they stay as a tagger to keep there fame up, second stage is the throwies , gives you more fame an improves your skill in the art , thrid stage is peices , this is the serious shit, where the real artist comes in , the final fourth stage murials. so shut the fuck up you know nuthin

[pitkin2323]

Obviously there's recreational graffiti like tgf.... But then there's people who want to get up...you can't paint a mural on a bustop lol

[REINxONE]

this guy doesnt realise that tags were the first pieces they would outline theyre tags and "graffiti artists" as he says started out writing "graffiti tags" they should have someone who knows what theyre talking about on these videos, so this crews members are in theyre 20s and theyre getting jacked by younger taggers what kind of crew gets jacked. this guy needs to do research confrontation and violence comes with graffiti, its all about getting up not crying about little kids.

[MISTARmos]

LOL when he was trying to find 'agent' the piece actually said 'meks' shows how much he knows.

[Mr11craze11]

tagging is crapp

[mroscarking]

Awesome 0:46

I love it when those rubbish taggers try to do graffiti and the police get involved it's so funny XD

[broomfield1000]

I lived very close to here for 20 years (Mulberry Road) I think that rather than doing this, these people would be far better of getting a job. The OVT is just down the road and the area is full of students. This is a bad reflectiion for Selly Oak

Regards Paul

[sketchbomber]

@broomfield1000 let graff artists do what dey want if dey r 20 years old dey prob have jobs to pay for paint n dey arent racking it, they maybe even commission pieces. look at banksy he sold a piece for a million. dont think he needs to get a job!! i know a few artist that do that or similar. as for the taggers its the basics of graff so fare enough if dey want to do it but dont do it on other peoples work with such little skill at least do a throwie if you dont like the work, its the game.

[LepidusMagnus]

Selly Oak Pocket Park thats news to me! This is actually called Bournbrook Recreation Ground, and is in Bournbrook!

[mroscarking]

@rononeroc Can i ask.. Is your status

"fuckin"

?

[EnglishStan]

03:00

"Man United are the best, Birmignham City are the best."

Who tags that shit?? LMAO

[DirtySkankBlud]

those cunts got some cheek crossin tlg hoakser and peng

[andwhatufool911]

he needs to learn to read it first,

2:26 is UCSE

[fade140]

u dont know shit man graff is legendary u fink its bad ere prik den go toda bronx!!!

[bigboytyson]

talk about something u really know where do u think the graffiti murals came from? they came from pieces pieces from burners burners from throw-ups throw-ups from TAGS!!! -2mer its art dumbass look at how many handstyles there are if u wanna c the real shit go to LA u fuck

[explicitkiid]

8:10 says meks u prick

[georgeaston2009]

tags not arts tags ! wtfff :L prickkkkk bet ya he usedd to do graff but he got doneee and he jus gon against it cuz he was stupid enuff to get caughttt :P

[b13joe]

talk about somthink you no u dip shit

[animemangafreak91]

he's trying to help the scene realy he's just tryin to get rid of the toys

[explicitkiid]

no hes not he trying to get rid of all the illegal stuff

[nfgfrol]

why are you talkin bout babys for you paedo

[ben123neb]

hahaha i tagged his ford mondeo when he was filmin at the jug of ale......dickhead!...selly oak park....in?....SELLY OAK!.....fuckin die you shit head

[samkirbhead]

Haha, nice one son

[PAINTsolihull]

ahh fair play man!!

he's a dick'hed

n its funny at 7:23 where he's like goin over neus,hahaha he looks like a spaz!!! retard

[rolo1052]

Are you having a go at the tagging 'problem' or are you just trying to read peoples work and say how they've made them?

[SubmergeDubstep]

Pause at 6:31 and look top right,

TOO DAM FUCKING RIGHT!

[HRE]

Haha. There's always pigs at this park. Probably due in part to Martin's whining about taggers. Hear the bball bouncing in the background? Ballers just minding their own business, waiting for the next group of stinky feds to walk on by.

[Limited305]

Yo everyone's talking shit about him,

but he actually supports it.

Ain't that enough? lmao

[explicitkiid]

lol martin mullaney is a twat, he doesnt know anything about graf, i would ave sed that the tlg piece was more a throw up, the one he sed was agent was meks lol

[Nemersis666]

he dont have a clue wat hes chattin, graff started in the late 60's in nyc not the 70's and he sez half of the peices wrong the tramp

[Nemersis666]

suk ya dead nan u tramp no one goes there and cares about it, u rather it be there or on the streets on peoples proporty? u fukin 4 eyes grey hair prick

[speshulgurlee]

not exactly the best i've seen, but i guess they alrite...

[lilmikme]

hahahaha he finks he nows all the styles and all the people lol

[ALEKZ123321]

what a nob head he is

[ancsquad]

hes a full on fucking dickhead.

[miskgraffiti]

diked finks he knows evry fin

[Skultfc91]

è devastato cazzo

[elkie0121]

a good tag consists of style and flow, most of them do not.

[zulujunior]

Maybe if u didnt make the park illegal you nonce it wouldnt have turned so shit

[camdash]

they should of shown the wall bhinde the bball court

[camdash]

ah man i love sely oak had sum grate bball courts and grfitti awsoum ball games there

[callumbcfc]

I live in Selly Oak but I've never seen that much graffiti lol!

[stvcrulegendz]

r u ever gona put proper graffiti artists there!! come on

[stvcrulegendz]

lol martin mullany made a fool outa his self by sayin its agent!! wtf it was meks!!!!!!

[thapurplejester]

Stupidly toy nowadays

[thapurplejester]

But taggin only is stupidly toy

[thapurplejester]

Hey everybody Graffiti as you all know it now started from Tags FACT, peopel used markers on trains, alot of tags look crap but some are amazing, witout tags the other stuff wouldnt exsist, and a real graffiti person knows a good tag. you can't just hate on tags. graffiti wouldnt be what it is now without tags. admittedly alot of tags are ugly garbage that arent really tags, but the good ones are just as stylistic a a burner!

xx

[sydwell08]

shut up u twat

[steadietransit13]

yer the art should stay and the tag should leave

[blacklanton]

just leave the graffiti there man no one aint complaining

[mara0dude0]

Still this guy knew allot and he was kinda cool... Did not want the graffiti out and he liked it... YAY

[sk8alad]

yeh i aggree with you man it should get repainted and get proper graff writers there the taggers that go over peices are just toys or they are startin beef with the writer.repaint it and let the kids express art.why would they tagg anyway if the place is legal i would spend a day there busting a huge mural

[mara0dude0]

the fucking taggers should fuck of... and your so right

[lukestevens1988]

realy dont get it

[3MDON]

A Tag is part of the art process. Most of the Mural and burener artists started out tagging and evolved that before trying out throw-ups, murals and then widstyles n burners. all of it is art. No artist has never tagged.

[SNColtof]

jezus christ! how can you talk about graffiti when you dont know anything about it......

you talkin bout taggin and shit and graffiti is not art but it is......

its like rap, they express themselves with words and we do it with a marker, spray or roller........

so next time if ur gonna say somethin, dont say shit like this man

[BOMBDOM54]

SKREW YOU CAT

[sctp75]

this cat aint got a clue.

[VanillaFaceCracker]

respect to mullaney, at least he is not campaging to get the place cleaned of all graffiti, he respects all the good peices, anyway fuck thoes toy ass taggers! big up rsk kru roking dub city!

[ricta1078]

ure a fuckin gay

[WILLTHORPE]

No idea!

WATCH STYLE WARS A FEW HUNDRED TIMES

'Sick this looks like'! hahaha

[inckone]

go fuck yourself mullaney you are nothing but scum

[oevroevarmy]

at the 2 min and 25 seconds or somethin like that is not graffiti art.. graffiti art is tags murals pieces thrown ups and all that.. that he was showing right there was a piece with a couple of murals... all graffiti is art... graffiti 4 life!! art aint a crime

[BIONDIEST]

taging is part of the game if you dont like tags then you should say you like graffiti art because its the SAME THING!!

[wellimjustreece]

alot of them taggers still go graffiti tags evey tagger does tags and most of them also do graffiti art

[ScottScott12345]

he has no fukin idea what hes on about..

_Razed_

[coreyvandenberg]

yer u dont no much but if ya want, get a wall in western australia, lol

[coreyvandenberg]

yer u dont no much but if ya want, get a wall in western australia, lol

[nick95playa]

man he cant even read da shit!!!!

[googlemyface]

NO MARTIN!! You are wrong and out of touch. ****THIS MAN DOES NOT REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF PEOPLE IN BIRMINGHAM****

[babime101]

mate yuhh need to shut da fuck of mate u dnt no shit do y dnt u go fuck bk to queer vile ya get me ya faggit mate taggers haha shut da fuck up ya sket go fuck ya dad

[metzZ21]

you dont know shit youve met a few graffiti artist and think your helping NO. people start tagging work at that move to throw ups then to piecing so u cant blame the teens for tagging i beg the crew your so fond of started out taggin so stop talkin wet ya fool

[XXboobmanXX]

Martin, you bell-end.

You are saying tagging is wrong, yet, tagging with outlines is good!

Retard!

Fuck off you fucking Harry Hill wannabe!

[alltheotherusernames]

people have been trying to destroy graffiti for nearly 30 years, they have only succeeded once, through a lot of effort. This was on the new york subway. Every other fight against graffiti has not won. You can't expect to ban taggers but alow pieces to be made, many people do both and they both support each other. Tagging cannot be destroyed and neither can graffiti generally.

[BPAP69er]

it dont matter if its art i dont c ppl putting up fuckin oil paintings on buildings ffs

[akidnamedbad]

You should stick to getting pissed up and scrapping in the Prince of Wales ya toss pot.

By the way Martin, did you like all the posters that I put up in Moseley everywhere? I really started something there didn't I? Now every promotor in the area is hitting it big time!

Much love ya tit!

[newmediaAF]

you talk so much rubbish. ahahha if only you really understood the scene. f off.

[Lare991]

sorry who is this man to judge what good art is? he needs to go back to politics in his suit and tie and stay there.

[oldskoollews]

all those who say graff is an eye sore they shud open there minds n accept it for what it is, its art, always has been, always will be! dont eva stop... ull always come back to it!!!

[lerrybobs]

Hi, a few thoughs on the video;

"That is what you call grafitti art"

All art is subjective. There is no clearly defined boundary, endorsement by some pretentious man in a gallery doesn't define art.

"Nice tidy and welcoming"

Please, the state need not control eveything. Just let this one slide.

[nanobombsss]

wow u faggit u cant diss tagging it all started from taggs u fag or u wouldnt have ur soo called "graffiti art"

[tfmcru]

yo this prik is well a prick i dont even no wtf he is talkin about he never even lifted a can in his shity sad life fuk him the stupid h8er stv reppin dawg/nerv/revz/dope/spoke/nipz we all stv make a file on us thats wt u do 2 all da other writers we only doin it 4 fun!! so fuk u you h8er

[1nedope07]

u fuckin dikhed tagginn plays a big part in graffiti dumb fuck

[define1wls]

actually now i've watched this i'm surprised, mullaney is tring to find out real shit, not just rubbishing the whole movement. bet he's bombing next summer lol...

[define1wls]

peace phable, selly never bin legal its a myth, i got nicked there 2 months ago.

[SRE107]

tagging is a fuckin art as well ha ha...

This video is funny...

[jamez563]

i think you should shut up:D lol joke its ur opinion and thats fare enough but still if you actually research more into graffiti you'll see its not that bad i used to think the same as you untill i started to and now i love it

[phableone]

is selly oak still legal or not???

[russelltrigger]

i think graffiti isnt very good looking, i believe graffiti looks an eye saw!!

i think police should arrested them personally because it ruins the place!!

[faekske]

ironically enough

you tagged over a piece at the jug of ale...

and seeing as you had no permission, you COULD get done for criminal damage, which i hope you do..

and as stereotypical of "taggers from gangs" this may seem

i really hope you get took off the count :)

[1992MaRe]

therez sum rite h8erz man

totaly destroyed them pieces

wat dikeds

[Chlo3Bumkins18]

ii alwaiis go past thiis park &+ ii neva fort that iit was ugly...it luks siik even the tags doo well most of them Anyway...They wnt b able tuu stop ppl graffit there!

[jamez563]

i wish that our counceler or village nieghbour hood watch were as safe as he seems lol

[buffalohorns]

hes not safe

[semytk]

i must say i have a lot of respect for this bloke... he obviously isnt from the graffiti world and is trying to point out to the more retarded thinkers of our society that tagging and graffiti art are 2 different concepts. so what he obviously cant see the letters but has taken time out to get to know more about the graffiti scene in b'ham witch is a lot more than most "graffiti artists" know about considering its their local area

[1021519]

Who cares whether it's artistic or not? Let them paint it on the walls of their own houses, not in other people's space.

[ajkiller1]

How true.

Either or, they should do on it on their own properties, not public spaces.

[faekske]

once again youve proved yourself absolutely USELESS

seriously if i ever see you im gonna happy slap you for your sheer ignorance

CUNT

[moebob24]

i just want to point out that tags and pieces are the same thing....thought goes into a tag as well as a piece...and the piecers tag their name with the piece so when u say kick out the taggers u are kicking the piecers out as well

[BlazesBlades]

lol 5 mins walk from me :D

[faekske]

its funny how that agent piece says MEKS

jackass

seriously

get something more important done, people wud not see so much being done but wouldnt end up getting robbed or beat up, but no, tagggings such a massive problem which of course you get grief for

but explain to this obviously unreasonable residents that ACTUAL gangs reside in your area and theyre the reason older people are afraid to go out at night

[douglasforsyth]

tags are as much art as the larger "pretty" murals, the genreal public may not like them but they dont have to. Dont comment/make videos ona subject you dont understand.

[chisledean]

If you "care" so much, why don't you put your energy into improving the quality of life for the residents rather than giving the "Artists" more public property as their canvas!

[chisledean]

2) This park was designed also as a children's park clearly. If you had portrayed the park in it's full context, you will note the slide, which has also been defaced as well as the multi purpose games courts. TBC

3) You mention that the Police have been and arrested the "Artists". Forgive me but is that not partly their job as Graffiti is catergorised as "CRIMINAL DAMAGE" and is therefore an offence under UK Law, or had you forgotten that. TBC

[chisledean]

Cllr Mullaney,

May I draw your attention to a few rather important issues.

1) Your presentation does not show the terrace housing at the bottom of the park, you know the ones which have been defaced with Graffiti and I don't mean just "Tags" but actual "Graffiti Art" as you put it. TBC

[JRP1414]

Martin,

The letters T and H when put together make the sound 'th', not 'f'. BaTH, Kings HeaTH, SouTH.

Before trying to 'educate' the 'youf', get yourself some English lessons.

[JRP1414]

Cllr Mullaney,

Graffiti = Criminal Damage.

Would you still call it 'art' if it was sprayed all over the side of YOUR house?!

Stop trying to get 'down wit da kids' for the 'young' vote and sod off back to Moseley!

[crazefrmbrum]

oi mullainey do 1 man u lucky u dun dat vid wen i wernt there man i wud ov sprayed u up u gt da park closed dwn n nw we r gonna go 2 da streets nw u div so fuk off

[ben123neb]

fuck off mullaney u fat bastard, i tag senz n ure lucky i werent down selly wen u filmed tht cuz i wud of sprayed burner in ya fat face n laghed as u winced in agony haha u fat lerk

[m3rk5b14]

you will prob never ever ever ever ! stop tagging (no offence)

[minichris2007]

fuk off mullany. i write sore.

haha u fink u know us n wot we do....

oi ur area is mosely n k heaf so fuk outa selly oak boiii.

[chu51]

641 Youth House !

Not sure about your vocabulary - "baby out with the bath water", "teenagers", "kids", "k...blokes", "normal 9 to 5" etc.

IMO Tagging IS graffiti ART.

Not sure that the reference to the "New York scene" is historically relevant or appropriate for your purposes either.

[GhostDaz]

Pt 3: As Mullaney wrestles with the grammatical ambiguity of style he speaks for us all in searching for an explanation of what the essence of art is. Simplistically this might be interpreted as low quality epsiode of Sesame Street but it is so much more. It isn't even just a Councillor showing off his knowledge of the alphabet; this is life in its most raw sense.

[GhostDaz]

Pt 2: Clearly the camera work owes much to such venerable documentary style dramas as Hillstreet Blues. It repres(z)ents the streets by sharp cut aways and ad hoc focus in much the same way as we (the public) fear the cutting edge of Selly Park. The use of colour demonstrates the aspiration of youth contrasted with a desperate seeking for an as yet unfulfilled future.

[GhostDaz]

Pt 1: Like a synergy between Sharpe and Boyz in the Hood Mullaney syncopates history and street culture in a fast paced thriller that never searches for a plot. The contrast of art history and culture both educates and enriches those of us that remember the 70's as being a hotch potch of Spangles and Dr Who. Mullaney's life experience seeps through this film like an old rag mopping up a deniable spillage.

[brumgum]

Yes, Birmingham City are the best!!!.

[jonbounds]

another top piece of reportage Cllr.

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