Sagat? Mid-tier? Goodness no. Well balanced? Actually yes. Compare him to any of the highest tier people in fighting game history and he's actually not broken when compared to them. He's still beatable, it's just REALLY hard for Gief to do it.
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@k0rr1 According to n00b as American players it is. Not in Japan. Like cocofachpopov said, gief vs fagat is considered 6-4 and even 5-5 depending how you play your cards.
@Romainnut Or they could try limit the number of ex bars to 3 so that you could only attempt one FADC. Just look at the double FADC>Ultra near the end of the vid. That's just crazy.
My opinion is if it cost you 3 bars to cancel something outside a combo, you will think twice to cancel just everything to keep your attack advantage.
So, hit confirm ? then go for a classic FADC 2 baras combo to ultra.
Trying some cheesy tech on a guarding opponent ? or some lucky reversal on wake up ? 3 bars for you ... oh ? you ve got only 2, thinking it will hit ? sooooo sad.
0:40 - 0:45
Failed cr.lk ultra-buffer by Cantona
PoXiMaT 1 year ago
1:40 I didn't know that was a possible combo.
hamidious 2 years ago
Fagat ~
DaisukeXYX 2 years ago 4
yeah u can clearly see that sagat is mid tier and well balanced. where is your problem?
skipjack02 2 years ago
Sagat? Mid-tier? Goodness no. Well balanced? Actually yes. Compare him to any of the highest tier people in fighting game history and he's actually not broken when compared to them. He's still beatable, it's just REALLY hard for Gief to do it.
RainbowRandolf 2 years ago
fuck sagat
cheunk123 2 years ago 4
i know gief is at a disadvantage against sagat, but eetoro just beat three best giefs in straights.
bluedha 2 years ago
great 2nd round by cantona
sharkl11 2 years ago 3
rampage rape!
sparty007 2 years ago
Must be a freaking nightmare to play Gief agains good Sagat =(
LezardSama 2 years ago 7
LOLOLOLOL!!!!
Sagat are VERY Broken nothing more xD...
Nerfes Sagat and game stay balanced!!!! :D
MrRoRicky 2 years ago
@ 1:37 I did not expect to see Itabashi do that move.
I almost chocked on my food.lol
TheLazyGenius 2 years ago
thats because it was Cantona not ita.
MuNoZ15 2 years ago
@MuNoZ15 I just saw it on the screen.lol
Thanks for the correction.
TheLazyGenius 2 years ago
this matchup is 7-3 in sagat's favor
k0rr1 2 years ago 3
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Not in Japan ;).
In Japan Sagat/gief is considered 6-4, even 5-5.
Don't ask me why.
cocofachpopov 2 years ago
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@k0rr1 According to n00b as American players it is. Not in Japan. Like cocofachpopov said, gief vs fagat is considered 6-4 and even 5-5 depending how you play your cards.
0pTicaL823 2 years ago
@0pTicaL823 I got my sources straight of Japan's tier list. It's 7-3. Want proof? Ask. =D
k0rr1 2 years ago
@k0rr1 Whatever you say. You have no proof.
0pTicaL823 2 years ago
@0pTicaL823 pm me for japanese tier link
k0rr1 2 years ago
instead of saying "lol american noobs" maybe you should actually explain why the matchup isn't in massively in favor of sagat.
Last Tougeki tier list for SF4 that was released from japan, gief lost to sagat 7-3.
Pandaman64 2 years ago 3
this sagat is trash, the fact that the gief players came even close to winning is embarrasing
buffguy86 2 years ago
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SSF4 main improve should be :
FADC in blocking opponent : 3 ex bar
FADC during combo : 3 ex bar
this way, no more TU cancel in bloc stun.
Romainnut 2 years ago
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U do realise that Sagat is not the only one who FADC?
Most character FADC from time to time.
cocofachpopov 2 years ago
@Romainnut Or they could try limit the number of ex bars to 3 so that you could only attempt one FADC. Just look at the double FADC>Ultra near the end of the vid. That's just crazy.
AhGweeV2 2 years ago
it's not that crazy, it was just a mistake on gief's part, he had a huge life lead, there's no reason to stop blocking or even try to tech a throw
limit to 3 bars? so supers cost 3 bars?
anthema728 2 years ago 2
@anthema728 Well 3 bars for a super may be okay because if you think about it. It was easy to fill up a super bar back in turbo.
AhGweeV2 2 years ago
that will change the game entirely, everyone would be playing chun li, ryu, dhalsim, and balrog just for their supers
you couldn't cancel special moves into super in turbo
anthema728 2 years ago
My opinion is if it cost you 3 bars to cancel something outside a combo, you will think twice to cancel just everything to keep your attack advantage.
So, hit confirm ? then go for a classic FADC 2 baras combo to ultra.
Trying some cheesy tech on a guarding opponent ? or some lucky reversal on wake up ? 3 bars for you ... oh ? you ve got only 2, thinking it will hit ? sooooo sad.
Romainnut 2 years ago
1:41 lol @ combo omg :)
malgab 2 years ago 4
@UltraDavid you forgot Aloha Zangief
79980112 2 years ago
all 3 of them could have beaten that sagat. Tough luck.
GGG969 2 years ago 4
i dont get it why did zangitan not just sit on his lead
FeeldaFia 2 years ago
wow
ricefarmer 2 years ago
1 high level but not best in the world sagat > the 3 best zangiefs in the world
UltraDavid 2 years ago 3
sagat f+HK ... hitting gief every time...
Romainnut 2 years ago
Wow embarrassing how all three of them got owned like that
619kammy 2 years ago
first time ever see sagat japanese player using the super !!!!!!111!
Niessu7 2 years ago
probably an accident or something
IzanamiOokami 2 years ago
It was a bad input. He wanted the ultra.
The only time a pro player would use a super would be a super cancel. They wouldn't use a super on a juggle like that when they had an ultra.
SmokeyAmp 2 years ago
DAM YOU SAGAT!!!
blazer4328 2 years ago
rules for this match sagat no fireball at all
peterhuynh2k7 2 years ago
Fcking hate Sagat.
FIGHT LIKE A MAN, BOI!
keroberus2 2 years ago
Sagat is now bathing himself in Russian blood
YamatoXion 2 years ago 4
Cantona's combo at 1:37 <3 So funny that 3 of the best Zangief's teamed up like that! If only they could include Aloha as well.
arla61 2 years ago
OMFFFFFFFFFG?!!?!?!?!?1/1/1//1
k0rr1 2 years ago