I don`t think Chris Martin and Coldplay would be in favour of you using their song in support of the pro life cause. It is almost as blasphemous as when i saw on you tube, the tea party using a Bob Marley song to promote their cause.
roe vs. wade was decided based on the ninth amendment in the bill of rights, saying that a person has a right to privacy. well then what's privacy? if i can do whatever i want in my own privacy, then i might as well go on a killing rampage in the privacy of my own home... it's my right to privacy, correct? definitely not. so applies here to abortion. because it IS the killing of an innocent unborn human being. you can call it a fetus all you want, it's still human.
@emilyypeaceify I do call it a fetus but I always remeber the defenition of fetus 9and my family does this too) : unborn baby within the womb! and fetus comes from a latin word meaning small or young child. and therefore this does mean that it is a human. And embryo means the start of life. This proves that there are lives and they are not your body. they have their own and therefore it is their choce...not the keepers!
@kady7869 It's actually not a woman's body. The human being inside of her has its own DNA, blood type, and often a penis. The assumption that all pro-life individuals are "bible thumpers" is inaccurate. While many pro-life individuals are of the Christian or Jewish faith there are many pro-life groups made up of pagans, atheists, feminists, gay and lesbian groups, and many other religions and worldviews. The common denominator is not the book they read, but the belief that all life is valuable.
The media doesn't ignore it, it just a tired old topic. Only religious fanatics and misogynists who want woman to go back to the kitchen oppose abortion. Normal people are pro-choice.
Being pro-life isn't 'misogynistic': being "pro-choice" (pro-abortion) is the number one example of misandry, the core of feminism's war on fatherhood.
Being pro-life isn't a religious issue. Each unique human being's life begins with their conception. That's science.
It is abnormal to be "pro-choice" (pro-abortion). The natural thing to do is to let the baby live, not hack it up with knives in an abortion.
Regarding "women to go back to the kitchen": how sexist of you.
~~~~~~~~~~ According to WHAT??? YOU?? Sorry sweetheart, your not the judge of what is or isnt abnormal for the people of the world and 40 million abortions a yr, says its quite normal. Get a valid argument and stop typing for the sake of having somehting to fill your days!!
@WhiteStar11111 says: This is obvious to every rational person.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rational according to who? You? Sorry sweetie, youre not the judge of what is or isnt rational for anyone but yourslef. Why cant you respond to my comments? Is it because you CANT? Why not answer this this one? Eagerly awaiting your intelligent response..lolol
@Svperstarr That's an interesting definition of normal. Especially since normal people also label everyone who disagrees with them under a bs category like that as opposed to acknowledging their criticisms and arguments and responding to them. The media has its own agenda and will follow what stories it likes; sometimes it presents a story to agree with it, sometimes it presents a story to disagree with it, but I can guarantee that it does ignore what it doesn't find useful to their cause.
@Svperstarr "normal people are pro-choice". If I said "normal people like to screw 4 year old girls", would that make it true? No. So you have failed to make a convincing claim. I would say it's a matter of opinion and the pro-life side is the higher moral stance while the pro-choice stance is one of ignorance and regurgitation i.e. social influence.
@ohmgrown1991 ...care to prove that? I've yet to meet a pro'life'r who can't stick to the topic w/o resorting to personal insults, accusations, parroting long-destroyed 'arguments' or using analogies that make NO sense.
Or, they sit there and threaten you w/ religion, or they 'correct' your opinions and personal feelings on the matter, and if you're post-abortion, they refuse to allow you to NOT regret it, unless of course, it's okay for them to 'know' you 'hate babies'.
@Svperstarr True. Pro'life'rs have been nothing but rude, violent, mocking, and prejduiced. I've heard everything from 'children CHOOSE to be abused and can stop it at any time' to racial slurs b/c I'm white and my husband is black. Nigger-lover, faggot, and whore are common rhetoric among them. I've even had a coworker call CPS to report that I burned my BABY WITH CIGARETTES just b/c she found out I'm pro-choice and told her to 'NOT PRAY FOR ME, it is insulting'. I hate them all.
Ah yes, an ad hominem attack. This fallacy is generally evidence that someone realizes that their position is not logically feasible. In this case, there is no reason to suppose at all that abortion is morally justifiable. So, instead of attacking the arguments you attack the people. Sure, you got a zinger in there but at the end of the day you're still wrong and abortion is still infanticide.
Ah yes, an ad hominem attack. This fallacy is generally evidence that someone realizes that their position is not logically feasible. In this case, there is no reason to suppose at all that abortion is morally justifiable. So, instead of attacking the arguments you attack the people. Sure, you got a zinger in there but at the end of the day you're still wrong and abortion is still infanticide.
Abortion is very acceptable in cases of rape, incest, the womans life is in danger, or if the baby will come out mentally and or physically retarded and you don't want to make it suffer in life, other wise if your baby will be healthy but you were stupid forgot to take the pill or wear the rubber or opened you legs to, too many men like a whore then it's 100% your fault and abortion should not be allowed! You should live and learn with your mistakes (lol mistake) anyway that's all!
I also want you to explain how what I experienced at the Freedom of Choice Ohio 2011 Rally in columbus was right? After our event was booked on the North side of the State House in Columbus, Ohio, the Pro-Life people booked the south side. They had their rally uninterrupted by us by any means with video footage to prove it. But on our side, Pro-Life people held up signs mocking us and blocking people from walking up to us to support us and police had to intervene, how was that right?
@sirchristian12 Yep, and if you get your way and abortion is illegal, Abortion will still happen. 44% of abortions happen in countries where abortion is illegal.
Plus if you get your way, the Pro-Life movement will be protesting contraceptives because it keeps a embryo from implanting into the uterus, therefore, killing a life. The 2012 Florida Personhood Amendment proves that is already in the works.
Are you one of those people that think women should have the rights of Afghani Woman?
@sirchristian12 Okay so if you value life, who's life is more important in this specific scenario: If a woman has say pre-eclampsia is about to die from a heart attack due to blood pressure so high that will equal death if the fetus is removed, should the fetus or unborn human baby as you call it, be removed, or should they both die? And if you say they should both die? Catholic hospitals are the worst at doing this and just letting the woman die? If you agree with them are you really pro-life?
@breemystic Preeclampsia occurs in the late second to early third trimester. Are you suggesting that babies that would be viable outside of the womb should be terminated instead of being given a chance at life? A cesarean section would be preferrable to an abortion, no?
Wow, okay first of all, if you're pointing out that Pro-Life Protests are more respectful as you show in your video. Then I want you to explain how harassing and calling people walking into abortion clinics and calling women that will die from pregnancy if they don't have an abortion baby killers.
I want you to explain why the cincinnati abortion clinic near me, can't put their trash because of pro-life protestors and how that's innocent and gentle.
@1tacoman17 For people that don't believe in killing babies, you all seem to be so violent. Don't call me a slut, so hurtful. lol. Ever heard of a condom splitting.????????. But then you people believe in rape and incest. MY body, MY choice. Let's suck it out.lol.lol.
@Skaramoosh5 Yeah I have heard of condom splitting. Heard of Adoption? And no its not your body, its a living thing with a soul. A life is a life no matter how small.
@Skaramoosh5 Oh and how does Pro Life seem to be violent? Because a few nutcases kill a couple abortion doctors every once in a while? That doesnt seem to be a good reason, now does it? And if you get raped let someone who wishes they could have a child ADOPT the kid instead of sucking it apart you ingrate. I love how you are steroetpying the whole Pro Life side, when I said nothing of the Pro Life side.... As you said... lollool
@1tacoman17 You want me to give birth and become a mother to a rapist. That is why we laugh at you. What about incest, you want a girl to give birth to her daddy's baby and then, oh, I don't know, just give it up for adoption, simple, that is why we laugh at you. You force women to become mother's. What do you think gives you the right to decide what happens to the inside of my body. Who are you again, that's right a nobody. You people need to contol other's to make yorself feel like God.lol.
@Skaramoosh5 And??? Is that the babies fault. Does the baby deserve to suffer because of the evil of others? No one is forcing you to feel like God. THey are trying to stop you from doing the wrong thing. Are you a someone? Let alone a women who is even old enough to talk about her reproductive situation? Im pretty sure your a troll. If you were a baby in a womb would you support abortion???
@1tacoman17 The woman has to suffer then, is that ok.? The baby will not suffer because it will not know what is happening. Unless you can tell me what it was like in the womb, or when you where born, can you.???? Abortion is not wrong for me so I wont be feeling any guilt. Keep calling me names, so everyone can see what pro-lifer's are really like.lol. I'm me the woman who controls what happen's to the inside of her body, never you. Some people wish they had never been born.!!!!!!
@Skaramoosh5 Um... Im not calling you names, unlike you who is insulting the whole pro life side. And no I cant tell you what it was like in the womb. It can be debated whether a baby can feel pain... but is it fair to take its life? Something it will never get back. I really hope you get some sense into you in day. God forbid anything in your body you'll dispose off. Your right... the baby is in your body... but your sick for not giving it a chance. Im done with your fail logic.
@1tacoman17 Your done because you cannot defeat my logic.yet another pro-lifer sent packing. Result. If your all we have to worry about, then abortions will be around forever, thank God.
@Skaramoosh5 Im done with you because its pointless to argue, yet alone argue with a moron. Are you gonna be a child and try to get the last word again? Or you can not reply and act like someone who has a brain.
@sirchristian12 Don't reply to me, unless you will answer the questions about rape, incest and forced marriage between little girls and 50 year pedo's. Bye. Bye.
@sirchristian12 lol.lol. Still wont answer the questions will you. You backward little retard. You into rape, incest and kids pumping out babies you fucking pedo. stay away from kids, you evil cunt. Abortions forever.
@atmdusty OK let's look at the reverse, why stop at the fetus why not give the mother the choice to "abort" her child up until, oh let's say 16yrs, that way no woman has to be inconvenienced by a child she doesn't want. It's one thing to abort a child because of a threat to the mothers life (actual life, not social life but, as in she might DIE) or if the child will suffer. It's quite another when it is used as birth control.
@Sueezee1 First off it's called sarcasm you moron, I'm not saying ban it completely but when used as straight birth control it's a really pathetic reason to terminate a pregnancy, but then again if your too fucking stupid or lazy to use birth control when you know you don't want a child (Exempting rape or incest of course, forgot to include those as a VALID reasons last time) then maybe your too stupid to be allowed to raise children.
~~~~~~~~~ Youre an idiot! If abortion were used as a method of birth control, a typical woman would have at least two or three pregnancies (abortions) per year, for nearly 40 yrs. Do the math, thats 120 pregnancies/births/ abortions in a lifetime,at about $60,000 for abortions...
@Sueezee1 Holy crap you're a fucking moron, so there are NO women who abuse the system right? Holy hell bitch, I'm talking about these idiots who abuse the system and bring crap down on those who did nothing wrong. The women who've been raped victims of incest, women who's abortions were due to birth defects or a threat to the would be mother's life shouldn't have to suffer because of the idiots who abuse the system, which based on your reactions I'm guessing you're an abuser.
@Tygra81 says: so there is no women who av abuse the system
~~~~~~~~~~~ You god damned LIAR... you didnt say "abuse the system" ...you said use aboriton as birth control & THAT is what I responded to. Youre too stupid for me to debate with. AND, YOU are NOT the frickin judge of whats is abusing the system & what isnt. When you learn no tto lie, OR when you learn to comprehend what you read...get back w/me..meaning I wont see you again
@Sueezee1 But your the judge of what is and isn't a life? Sorry that's Gods job and in his eyes abortion IS murder period, but you justify your murders however you want, you're a hypocrite and a fool and since your shoe size is obviously higher than your IQ I'm done debating you you hate mongering baby killing bitch.
@Tygra81 says but your the judge of what is and isnt life
~~~~~~~~~ NO, you god damned dumb ass!!! What in the hell is wrong with EACH of you idiots , that not one of you can comprehend what the hell you read???? Who in the hell said I was the one who made that decision????? Good god, Its the law...and i dont make laws....and a fetus hasent been a life, as we know it, since this countries beginning. Youre too stupid for me to talk to . I might as well debate a 5 yr old.. BYE
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats because you know you'll lose, and that im right..... thats why abortion is legal and you dumbasses cant change that with all your lying BS!! BYE
@Tygra81 says: f your too fucking stupid or lazy to use birth control when you know you don't want a child then maybe your too stupid to be allowed to raise children.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats it sweetheart...thats where abortion comes in, because women are too smart to have million of unwanted babies to be thrown away for someone else to deal with. Youre a child abuser if you think they should!
@Tygra81 says if youre too fucking lazy to use birth control
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why dont you buy a little plastic badge, and make yourself the sex police and you can go door to door making sure everyone in having sex the way YOU want them to. How does that sound? AND, that means we can do the same to you, and I have some great ideas for YOUR reproductive decision...have we got a deal?
@Sueezee1 You act as though I want to BAN abortions, no that would be idiotic, you want to ignore the problem all together which is also idiotic. I want people to to become educated to take precautions to protect themselves to eventually make abortions unnecessary, why am I a bad guy for wanting people to be responsible for themselves? I want people to be safe and to you that makes me a villain so I ask you why is educating people to make better decisions so horrible?
The quiet, nicey nicey folks are protesting in favour limiting the freedoms of the shouty brigade. In the face of such faith-based religious fascism, albeit peacefully expressed, i can understand why they're so indignant.
ABORTION IS NOT JUST MURDER? IT IS ROBBING AN ENTRIE GENERATION OF GREATNESS!!!! .....WHO KNOWS WHAT BABIES ARE BEING DESTROYED ...THAT HAD THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO GROW UP AND BECOME ADULTS, COULD HAVE HAD THE CURE TO AIDS, OR CANCER OR SOME OTHER GREAT DISCOVERY....ABORTION IS A THIEF IN THE HIGHEST DEGREE!
Nothing like beautiful editing. Some pretty music, some sad looking faces and all of a sudden the christian right looks so sweet, sympathetic living and caring. Please. spare me.
These pro-lifers will stand in the rain and support the foetus with all the strength they can muster. Once the foetus becomes a child, and is born to a poor family, or is gay, or a minority, or becomes lost in a social under class, their support and understanding suddenly disappears. Pro-life, as long as it's the right type of life.
@kady7869 I couldn't agree more, right now in May 2011 in Ohio, the Heartbeat Bill is being discussed, meanwhile, Governor Kaisch and the Ohio Republicans in Congress are in favor of a Budget similar to the Ryan Plan being discussed in Federal Congress that would gut social programs to give money in tax breaks to the rich. I agree they are only pro-life when it comes to protecting a embryo, zygote or fetus, after that Ohio Babies will starve. Excellent point.
In a formal debate, you would be corrected for skirting the issue, in an attempt to distract the audience. Try to think rationally. Pro-lifers value all human life, from conception to natural death. But what makes abortion so important, is that it is the most innocent who are the victims, by the millions. If our country can't get this right, then how can it hope to get anything else right; poverty, war, racism, etc?
@threerisingsuns if you valued human life then you'd value the continue of our species. if you continue to manipulate the minds of others with your strictly emotional protests that lack any sort of logic you will see the demise, not just of a fetus but to all humans. what do you think will happen in the near future, if we continue to over populate the world? a world that can barely sustain life for us in its current state. 2/3s of our resources are gone from over consumption. do the research!
PRO-LIFERS IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR CHILDREN CONSIDER THE ONES THAT CARELESS MOTHERS ALREADY BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD AND ARE SUFFERING SOME KIND OF ABUSE BY THEIR IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS OR IN THE HAND OF A RAPIST PRIEST OR ANY OTHER CHURCH ORGANIZATION REPRESENTATIVE .
@MsIsabella28: Is it still 'your' body when after a botched abortion attempt the BAIPA legislation kicks in and the CHILD spends the rest of HER life without an arm and an eye? Your baby, either the most precious thing of ALL to you, or something fit for death, removal and disposal? Wow, how incredibly selfish and disgusting.
why stop at the fetus? the sperms and the eggs should have a choice. They should have the choice to not be stopped by a condom or the egg dumped in the toilet because the girl didn't have sex.
Although I'm against abortion, I'd never force a woman NOT to get one. They're right, it's their choice, not mine. My opinion, their opinion. I just wish pro choice women would use it for a better reason then "convenience" or it's not a human being. I can understand if the woman or the baby or both were deathly ill, or the woman at hand was raped, but it's wrongful to use such a drastic procedure for selfish reasons.
wrong, abortion out of convenience is not wrong ( if so, prove it. if not, stop with the moral relativism), since it's a woman's civil, constitutional and moral right to have one...if she needed or desired one.
there's nothing selfish about abortion, her body, her life, her rights. a fetus has no right to live inside a woman's body against her will.
just like it's not selfish for you not wanting to donate your kidney to save a life. when you have a right not too.
Well....can you at least explain to me why it's a good thing. What good comes out of it. Women get to continue being as slutty as they want with a disgusting form of birth control (you tell me it isn't)...okay I get
illegal or not, it wont go away. the only thing you pro life morons will accomplish is increasing the rate of for lack of a better term"back alley abortions". by making it illegal for a trained medical doctor to do so in a safe, steril enviorment. ask youself, are you solvng a problem or making a bigger one? without a trained doctor/safe enviorment will she be more prone to injury and possibly death. what if the delivery of the baby would spell death for her. so who are you really helping?
you dumb christians don't picket when 1,000,000 iraqis are killed for no reason. no WMD!! and you want to step on a woman's freedom to choose. Morons!
why don't you nutjobs stop your whoring wives and daughters instead of picketing at clinics and killing abortion doctors. have some restraint, jeez! quit fucking around like mindless animals!
oh well, stupid brainwashed christians. what else can you expect from them?
You people are pretty much everything wrong with modern culture: brainwashed. Until you start thinking for yourselves instead of allowing "science" to be shoved down your throat as unquestionable truth, your lives are being wasted.
@garbagemann123456 You're the one that sounds brainwashed.. science is fact, understanding, learning, coming together to develop and enhance, to better things around us.
Without our brainwashing science we wouldn't have medicine, glasses, vehicles, the damn computer your worthless ass is using..
Hell, we wouldn't even have fire, since harnessing the uses of fire is the most important discovery in the history of humankind.
..or are you a thumper? If so, your lack of education is excused. :)
I can dissect and debunk your terribly formed "argument" (if we can even call it that) quite easily: my analysis of the manner in which the average person views and accepts science has nothing to do with the products that science has given us. You are so blinded and preoccupied with your supposed "strong point" (i.e. the benefits of science meaning it is inherently good) that you fail to engage in any coherent philosophical discussion. You "strong point" is actually flawed as well.
resorting to "thumper" at the end of your "argument" only reveals that you think irrelevant ad hominems contribute to what you are saying and inflate your pride. I would suggest enrolling in a few philosophy classes while you are still young enough to have your parents pay for it. otherwise, you will continue to go around representing a youth of poor judgment and critical thinking skills, with the shared mindset of "science is great, thou shalt not question."
And one final suggestion: read some Husserl. He might be able to convince you of the inanity of people believing that as science progresses so does morality. Get with the program and educate yourself. Reading a book will get you much further than clicking the thumbs down next to my posts.
Man, I'm sorry, but I just can't get over what you wrote..."science is fact...betters things around us." What the hell is that, seriously??? I'm sorry but I can't return here to respond to you. I wish you could empathize with how much disillusionment I am feeling because of you...you are so in the dark and led astray. Nothing I say can really help you. And then to say someone else has a lack of education?? This is amazing. Well, this is youtube.
I can see why actual thinkers do not populate youtube. What more should I expect from mainstream culture at it's epitome? I was actually discussing this with a professor of mine, and we agreed that it is best to stay out of the amateur forum. Why reason with those who can't respond to rationality? It is a complete waste of time and effort. I'm close to absolutely certain that my words will all be wasted, on you at least. So with that....later, kid.
@garbagemann123456 Sad that this uneducated 'kid' is actually a registered medical professional for the handicapped and infirm.
I don't need to read another persons' books or ideals to tell myself how to think, or feel- I know what is right and what is wrong-
Feel free to pity me for whatever strange psycho-babble reasons you have- in the end of the day I'm the one fighting for women's rights and AGAINST child abuse/poverty/neglect.
@RyddelIsFree Your against neglect. So you would gladly throw a woman in prison for making the choice to not to care for her child anymore, but are ok for her making the choice to kill him/her?
@bcmasta1returns Yes. If you actually bring a child into the world, the child deserves what all children deserve- a healthy, happy home. If you don't want to bring that child into the world to begin with, then perhaps it is for the best both for the child and mother.
I aborted at 14 to prevent pregnant homelessness at 14, asault&battery of my potential child in my home, and b/c child services outright ignored my report of being held down and hit in the face w/ belt.
The difference, in this video, between pro-life and pro-choice demonstrators is simple: representation. This video tried to make pro life supporters seems more compassionate, more dramatic and in the historical sense, romantic.
It showed a couple of clips of pro choice supporters. The footage in these clips was radically different because it had the actual audio and was edited to make them appear unruly.
This is incorrect. The original footage of the pro-choice side was actually *more* unruly, and many of the obscene gestures had to be removed.
And this is common at any pro-life rally. Anyone who has actually been to a pro-life rally knows that what the media portrays is opposite of reality. And it is unfortunate that many Americans are duped by the media in this way.
Absolutely. Anyone remotely intelligent (and with a decent taste in music) would be able to decipher the type of emotional, deluded theatrics that are rampant with ALL AntiChoicers.
Sorry guys, this type of shit only fools like-minded twits :/
@BethisRad says;Anyone remotely intelligent (and with a decent taste in music) would be able to decipher the type of emotional, deluded theatrics that are rampant with ALL AntiChoicers.
Antichoicers, in their noble crusade to ease the suffering of the unborn, are personally responsible for so much real world pain, it would be clearly just if they themselves felt it! Scarcity, global STORMING, and the destruction of LIFE ON EARTH you dark ages foolhardy, despite what you BELIEVE, science will NEVER let you go without the direct blame in history. Your cruelty to all sentient life shall not go unremembered!
for those who think the fetus can feel pain you are wrong. it doesnt feel pain until the 7-8 month. and technically it isnt even a child , it has no rights yet. It cant even live with out the support of the mom
And another thing. In the vid explanation, it says "what the MEDIA ignores." In the description it says that this footage was shot by Fransiscan... ...What?
How come pro-lifers just protest? needy children need MONEY for resources not someone holding a sign. You never see any of them work a second job or actually volunteering to help the children. Thats something Jesus would actually do.
Maybe he would, (and how do you know all of these pro-lifers DON'T do any of those things you suggest?) but don't even TRY to tell me that Jesus would have accepted abortion until all these children are perfectly provided for. (I'm not even Christian, and I HATE invocations of "what Jesus would do" but you're the one who brought the subject up in the first place, so right back at you).
"Women deserve better than abortion" funny, because abortion is not, never was, and never will be their only choice, if anything, the opposite has a chance of being true again one day.
Also, I simply laughed at the "thou shalt not kill" sign, since when did religious zealots/Fundie Fucktards have a big problem with killing? George Carlin said it best: the more devout they are, the more they see murder as being NEGOTIABLE, it all depends on who's doing the killing and who's getting killed.
how many so-called -pro-life- patriotic americans wanted to drop 2,000 pound bombs on Iraqi/Afghanistan children and babies in 2001 and 2002?
but american female citizens having abortion is wrong and deserves that bible quote.
bullshit!
they can rally as much as they want...a female citizen that is not in their legal care having a legal abortion is really none of their business...and they know it and can't her from having one.
You have to be kind of intellegent to be an effective comedian. George Carlin was savvy on the issues and the pychology of crazy people. Listen to him sometime, you might learn something.
If you are (like Obama) "pro-choice", please watch a sonogram of an actual abortion. (They are rare for viewing. But there is one, from the 1980s, on You Tube: "Silent Scream part 3".) You see the fetus trying to avoid the abortionist who is killing her. Does she feel pain while being aborted? Judge for yourself. (None of us reading this know, firsthand, exactly how much pain she feels...because none of us reading this were, ourselves, aborted.)
"At 11 weeks, the (unborn child's) face and all parts of the upper and lower extremities are sensitive to touch." None of us reading this know how much pain the fetus feels while being aborted. (That's because none of us were aborted.) But watch the abortion sonogram ("Silent Scream") which is also on YouTube. Watch the infant's response to being killed by the abortionist's tools and judge for yourself.
right, just let me ask keeping way from rape etc, when it comes to people just haveing a commen sense to use protection properly etc wouldint there be a less of a need for the use of abortion?
Women, the gentler,kinder sex. Their friendships are deeper and mean more than men's; the nurturer - right, sure thing. What a farce - women may actually be the more depraved gender.
But its their bodies, their bodies! Pure vanity. A baby's life is worth 9 months of my time. Apparently, half the women of America won't make that trade.
I'll say they aren't! Who are responsible for the bombings of abortion clinics and hospitals? The murder of doctors who perform abortions? The excommunication of a little nine or ten year old girl who was raped and had an abortion?
You are mistaking the pansy pro lifers for the anti abortion types like myself. I fully admit I'm violent. If you had your child killed by a pro abort you'd want them all dead as well.
But, that's not the only reason I hate you pro aborts and abortionists. I hate you because you are ALL pedophiles, rapsists, and murderers or you protect them at the least.
Again, tell us another myth. We could just as easilly call all pro lifers and anti-abortioners AKA anti-woman or anti-choice terrorists and murderers. At any rate, there must be something wrong with your thinking if you believe a doctor should be terrorized and murdered in a church but a woman has no right to want an unwanted zygote removed from her body and womb in a hospital.
Anyway, so sense in debating further with angry, irrational and violant people.
I'll repeat you're all just a bunch of pedophiles and rapists.
It's no wonder people kill abortionists. They're pedophiles.
But, that's pointless to talk about now with all that's happening in the US, I'll either stay and wait for a civil war and extract some vengence on pro aborts. Or leave and watch this country destroy itself.
Oh cmon know, can you honestly say you never molested a child? We all have, so chill out, sit back, and get down with some good ol fasioned molestation.
Uh huh... Right... So everyone who believes in a womans right to chose what goes on in her own body and her womb are criminals and trying to protect criminals. Tell us another myth.
And if you admit you are hateful and violant, then it's a good thing you aren't a parent and have no legal weight over a girls or womans decision over her body and her life.
Do you know how long it took women to get the freedom to choose? Way to try and take one giant step backwards. If abortion was illegal women would still and try to get abortions. Women and their fetus' would die in these unsafe, and unsterilized procedures. It's called learning from history.
the vast majority of pro-choicers are NOT victims of anything, except a total lack of responsibility.....did you know that 47% of the women who have had abortions, have had more than one? ....almost half of the woman having abortions are repeatedly an utter lack of responsibility or accountability....THATS the face of abortion.
At least we don't kill people we disagree with.
VoiceHunter 1 week ago
here is a question to any female that thinks pro-life. If i raped you right now and you never will see me again, would you have the child?
jlrgamer1 2 weeks ago
I don`t think Chris Martin and Coldplay would be in favour of you using their song in support of the pro life cause. It is almost as blasphemous as when i saw on you tube, the tea party using a Bob Marley song to promote their cause.
I`m just saying.
MrHaggis03 1 month ago
roe vs. wade was decided based on the ninth amendment in the bill of rights, saying that a person has a right to privacy. well then what's privacy? if i can do whatever i want in my own privacy, then i might as well go on a killing rampage in the privacy of my own home... it's my right to privacy, correct? definitely not. so applies here to abortion. because it IS the killing of an innocent unborn human being. you can call it a fetus all you want, it's still human.
emilyypeaceify 5 months ago
@emilyypeaceify I do call it a fetus but I always remeber the defenition of fetus 9and my family does this too) : unborn baby within the womb! and fetus comes from a latin word meaning small or young child. and therefore this does mean that it is a human. And embryo means the start of life. This proves that there are lives and they are not your body. they have their own and therefore it is their choce...not the keepers!
SpecializedChild462 5 months ago
@SpecializedChild462 so true!!
emilyypeaceify 5 months ago
@emilyypeaceify Glad to find the smart ones that reply! :)
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I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born...
~ Ronald Reagan
kz888888 5 months ago
Leave it to a woman to decide. It's her body. Keep government and bible thumpers out of the decision.
kady7869 6 months ago
@kady7869 It's actually not a woman's body. The human being inside of her has its own DNA, blood type, and often a penis. The assumption that all pro-life individuals are "bible thumpers" is inaccurate. While many pro-life individuals are of the Christian or Jewish faith there are many pro-life groups made up of pagans, atheists, feminists, gay and lesbian groups, and many other religions and worldviews. The common denominator is not the book they read, but the belief that all life is valuable.
angiepantswoolley 4 months ago
The media doesn't ignore it, it just a tired old topic. Only religious fanatics and misogynists who want woman to go back to the kitchen oppose abortion. Normal people are pro-choice.
Svperstarr 8 months ago 5
@Svperstarr
Wrong.
Being pro-life isn't 'misogynistic': being "pro-choice" (pro-abortion) is the number one example of misandry, the core of feminism's war on fatherhood.
Being pro-life isn't a religious issue. Each unique human being's life begins with their conception. That's science.
It is abnormal to be "pro-choice" (pro-abortion). The natural thing to do is to let the baby live, not hack it up with knives in an abortion.
Regarding "women to go back to the kitchen": how sexist of you.
WhiteStar11111 7 months ago
@WhiteStar11111 says: It is abnormal to be "pro-choice"
~~~~~~~~~~ According to WHAT??? YOU?? Sorry sweetheart, your not the judge of what is or isnt abnormal for the people of the world and 40 million abortions a yr, says its quite normal. Get a valid argument and stop typing for the sake of having somehting to fill your days!!
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@Sueezee1
It's abnormal to kill babies between conception and birth.
This is obvious to every rational person.
WhiteStar11111 7 months ago
@WhiteStar11111 says: This is obvious to every rational person.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rational according to who? You? Sorry sweetie, youre not the judge of what is or isnt rational for anyone but yourslef. Why cant you respond to my comments? Is it because you CANT? Why not answer this this one? Eagerly awaiting your intelligent response..lolol
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@Sueezee1
You don't offer any concrete content.
WhiteStar11111 7 months ago
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@WhiteStar11111 says: t's abnormal to kill babies between conception and birth.
~~~~~~~~~~ But, its "normal" to have unwanted, often hated babies? Youre not much of a critical thinker, are you?
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@Sueezee1
1. "Unwanted, often hated" by whom?
Whomever the baby is unwanted / hated by does not have to raise the baby.
The baby can be raised by someone else, someone who cares about the baby and wants to raise the baby.
WhiteStar11111 7 months ago
@WhiteStar11111 says: Unwanted, often hated" by whom?
~~~~~~~~~~~~ OMG...are you frickin kidding me????? BYE, I need adult, intelligent debates.
Sueezee1 7 months ago
@Svperstarr No bro im not religious i just dont agree with it bro XD
gregmonkey123 4 months ago
@Svperstarr That's an interesting definition of normal. Especially since normal people also label everyone who disagrees with them under a bs category like that as opposed to acknowledging their criticisms and arguments and responding to them. The media has its own agenda and will follow what stories it likes; sometimes it presents a story to agree with it, sometimes it presents a story to disagree with it, but I can guarantee that it does ignore what it doesn't find useful to their cause.
Sickopath333 3 months ago
@Svperstarr Everyone I know is pro-life. It is barbaric to kill babies that can't even defend themselves.
squishycommander 1 month ago
@Svperstarr "normal people are pro-choice". If I said "normal people like to screw 4 year old girls", would that make it true? No. So you have failed to make a convincing claim. I would say it's a matter of opinion and the pro-life side is the higher moral stance while the pro-choice stance is one of ignorance and regurgitation i.e. social influence.
ohmgrown1991 3 weeks ago
@ohmgrown1991 ...care to prove that? I've yet to meet a pro'life'r who can't stick to the topic w/o resorting to personal insults, accusations, parroting long-destroyed 'arguments' or using analogies that make NO sense.
Or, they sit there and threaten you w/ religion, or they 'correct' your opinions and personal feelings on the matter, and if you're post-abortion, they refuse to allow you to NOT regret it, unless of course, it's okay for them to 'know' you 'hate babies'.
Try me.
ryddelwearsahat 3 weeks ago
@Svperstarr True. Pro'life'rs have been nothing but rude, violent, mocking, and prejduiced. I've heard everything from 'children CHOOSE to be abused and can stop it at any time' to racial slurs b/c I'm white and my husband is black. Nigger-lover, faggot, and whore are common rhetoric among them. I've even had a coworker call CPS to report that I burned my BABY WITH CIGARETTES just b/c she found out I'm pro-choice and told her to 'NOT PRAY FOR ME, it is insulting'. I hate them all.
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Ah yes, an ad hominem attack. This fallacy is generally evidence that someone realizes that their position is not logically feasible. In this case, there is no reason to suppose at all that abortion is morally justifiable. So, instead of attacking the arguments you attack the people. Sure, you got a zinger in there but at the end of the day you're still wrong and abortion is still infanticide.
4MarksMojo 3 days ago
Ah yes, an ad hominem attack. This fallacy is generally evidence that someone realizes that their position is not logically feasible. In this case, there is no reason to suppose at all that abortion is morally justifiable. So, instead of attacking the arguments you attack the people. Sure, you got a zinger in there but at the end of the day you're still wrong and abortion is still infanticide.
4MarksMojo 3 days ago
Abortion is very acceptable in cases of rape, incest, the womans life is in danger, or if the baby will come out mentally and or physically retarded and you don't want to make it suffer in life, other wise if your baby will be healthy but you were stupid forgot to take the pill or wear the rubber or opened you legs to, too many men like a whore then it's 100% your fault and abortion should not be allowed! You should live and learn with your mistakes (lol mistake) anyway that's all!
deltaenforcer93 9 months ago
@deltaenforcer93 And what about the baby who has to live with the "whore" mother. hope it isn't a girl?
randomperson2538 6 months ago
Your body, your call; no one else should control it.
My body, my call; no one else should control it.
Not-yet-born's body, that person's call; no one else should control it.
See, it's not that tricky.
manaen1lds 9 months ago
I'm just grateful that Mary and Joseph were pro-life!
manaen1lds 9 months ago
I also want you to explain how what I experienced at the Freedom of Choice Ohio 2011 Rally in columbus was right? After our event was booked on the North side of the State House in Columbus, Ohio, the Pro-Life people booked the south side. They had their rally uninterrupted by us by any means with video footage to prove it. But on our side, Pro-Life people held up signs mocking us and blocking people from walking up to us to support us and police had to intervene, how was that right?
breemystic 9 months ago
@breemystic oh it's right! hahah having a choice legally to end a life yeah I would be right there with them. There should not be a choice at all.
sirchristian12 9 months ago
@sirchristian12 Yep, and if you get your way and abortion is illegal, Abortion will still happen. 44% of abortions happen in countries where abortion is illegal.
Plus if you get your way, the Pro-Life movement will be protesting contraceptives because it keeps a embryo from implanting into the uterus, therefore, killing a life. The 2012 Florida Personhood Amendment proves that is already in the works.
Are you one of those people that think women should have the rights of Afghani Woman?
breemystic 9 months ago
@breemystic No I am person who values life. I don't give up when life knocks me down and looks for an easy way out. Yeah screw ABORTION
sirchristian12 9 months ago
@sirchristian12 Okay so if you value life, who's life is more important in this specific scenario: If a woman has say pre-eclampsia is about to die from a heart attack due to blood pressure so high that will equal death if the fetus is removed, should the fetus or unborn human baby as you call it, be removed, or should they both die? And if you say they should both die? Catholic hospitals are the worst at doing this and just letting the woman die? If you agree with them are you really pro-life?
breemystic 9 months ago
@breemystic Preeclampsia occurs in the late second to early third trimester. Are you suggesting that babies that would be viable outside of the womb should be terminated instead of being given a chance at life? A cesarean section would be preferrable to an abortion, no?
angiepantswoolley 4 months ago
Wow, okay first of all, if you're pointing out that Pro-Life Protests are more respectful as you show in your video. Then I want you to explain how harassing and calling people walking into abortion clinics and calling women that will die from pregnancy if they don't have an abortion baby killers.
I want you to explain why the cincinnati abortion clinic near me, can't put their trash because of pro-life protestors and how that's innocent and gentle.
breemystic 9 months ago
Thank god for abortions. Now I can decide if I want to be a mother or not. Phew.!!!
Skaramoosh5 10 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Or you could think about that before you have unprotected sex you stupid slut :D! Phew!!!
1tacoman17 9 months ago
@1tacoman17 For people that don't believe in killing babies, you all seem to be so violent. Don't call me a slut, so hurtful. lol. Ever heard of a condom splitting.????????. But then you people believe in rape and incest. MY body, MY choice. Let's suck it out.lol.lol.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Yeah I have heard of condom splitting. Heard of Adoption? And no its not your body, its a living thing with a soul. A life is a life no matter how small.
1tacoman17 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Oh and how does Pro Life seem to be violent? Because a few nutcases kill a couple abortion doctors every once in a while? That doesnt seem to be a good reason, now does it? And if you get raped let someone who wishes they could have a child ADOPT the kid instead of sucking it apart you ingrate. I love how you are steroetpying the whole Pro Life side, when I said nothing of the Pro Life side.... As you said... lollool
1tacoman17 9 months ago
@1tacoman17 You want me to give birth and become a mother to a rapist. That is why we laugh at you. What about incest, you want a girl to give birth to her daddy's baby and then, oh, I don't know, just give it up for adoption, simple, that is why we laugh at you. You force women to become mother's. What do you think gives you the right to decide what happens to the inside of my body. Who are you again, that's right a nobody. You people need to contol other's to make yorself feel like God.lol.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 And??? Is that the babies fault. Does the baby deserve to suffer because of the evil of others? No one is forcing you to feel like God. THey are trying to stop you from doing the wrong thing. Are you a someone? Let alone a women who is even old enough to talk about her reproductive situation? Im pretty sure your a troll. If you were a baby in a womb would you support abortion???
1tacoman17 9 months ago
@1tacoman17 The woman has to suffer then, is that ok.? The baby will not suffer because it will not know what is happening. Unless you can tell me what it was like in the womb, or when you where born, can you.???? Abortion is not wrong for me so I wont be feeling any guilt. Keep calling me names, so everyone can see what pro-lifer's are really like.lol. I'm me the woman who controls what happen's to the inside of her body, never you. Some people wish they had never been born.!!!!!!
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Um... Im not calling you names, unlike you who is insulting the whole pro life side. And no I cant tell you what it was like in the womb. It can be debated whether a baby can feel pain... but is it fair to take its life? Something it will never get back. I really hope you get some sense into you in day. God forbid anything in your body you'll dispose off. Your right... the baby is in your body... but your sick for not giving it a chance. Im done with your fail logic.
1tacoman17 9 months ago
@1tacoman17 Your done because you cannot defeat my logic.yet another pro-lifer sent packing. Result. If your all we have to worry about, then abortions will be around forever, thank God.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Im done with you because its pointless to argue, yet alone argue with a moron. Are you gonna be a child and try to get the last word again? Or you can not reply and act like someone who has a brain.
1tacoman17 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 What about the kid's life you are going to end so you can have a better one? Yeah that's selfish. GENOCIDE
sirchristian12 9 months ago
@sirchristian12 Don't reply to me, unless you will answer the questions about rape, incest and forced marriage between little girls and 50 year pedo's. Bye. Bye.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Don't even post a damn comment on You tube unless it's pro life. yeah bye bye to you. PRO LIFE
sirchristian12 9 months ago
@sirchristian12 lol.lol. Still wont answer the questions will you. You backward little retard. You into rape, incest and kids pumping out babies you fucking pedo. stay away from kids, you evil cunt. Abortions forever.
Skaramoosh5 9 months ago
@Skaramoosh5 Here is an answer for ya, STILL HAVE THE BABY. "Abortions forever?" yeah you need to be federal prison.
sirchristian12 9 months ago
@sirchristian12 says: "Abortions forever?" yeah you need to be federal prison.
~~~~~~ Wrong its you idiots who have the unwnated often hated babies that need hung. Thats child abuse and it thrills you!!
Sueezee1 7 months ago
Who are those people who paint their faces white, wear ugly veils, and dress like women? :/
nureallycool 10 months ago
@dlaz0109 Keep it up she needs to learn, she said she's pro Roe but didn't Roe come to REGRET her abortion? In fact isn't she now very much PRO-LIFE?
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 Keep it up she needs to learn, she said she's pro Roe but didn't Roe come to REGRET her abortion? In fact isn't she now very much PRO-LIFE?
Roe does not speak for every woman that that has had an abortion.
xlovexothersxalsox 1 year ago
@Tygra81 :she said she's pro Roe but didn't Roe come to REGRET her abortion?
~~~~~~~~~ So what? Ddint millons come to NOT regret theirs?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 says=" didn't millions come NOT to regret theirs?"
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I don't know suzy,,
Ask your daughter if she thinks murdering your grandchild was the right choice!
ekajeht 1 year ago
@atmdusty OK let's look at the reverse, why stop at the fetus why not give the mother the choice to "abort" her child up until, oh let's say 16yrs, that way no woman has to be inconvenienced by a child she doesn't want. It's one thing to abort a child because of a threat to the mothers life (actual life, not social life but, as in she might DIE) or if the child will suffer. It's quite another when it is used as birth control.
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says why not give mother choice to abort her child 16 yrs
~~~~~~~~~~~ becauase thats illegal, dumbass....16 yr olds have the right to not be killed...fetuses dont.
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 First off it's called sarcasm you moron, I'm not saying ban it completely but when used as straight birth control it's a really pathetic reason to terminate a pregnancy, but then again if your too fucking stupid or lazy to use birth control when you know you don't want a child (Exempting rape or incest of course, forgot to include those as a VALID reasons last time) then maybe your too stupid to be allowed to raise children.
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says when used as straight birth control
~~~~~~~~~ Youre an idiot! If abortion were used as a method of birth control, a typical woman would have at least two or three pregnancies (abortions) per year, for nearly 40 yrs. Do the math, thats 120 pregnancies/births/ abortions in a lifetime,at about $60,000 for abortions...
Use your damned head!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 Holy crap you're a fucking moron, so there are NO women who abuse the system right? Holy hell bitch, I'm talking about these idiots who abuse the system and bring crap down on those who did nothing wrong. The women who've been raped victims of incest, women who's abortions were due to birth defects or a threat to the would be mother's life shouldn't have to suffer because of the idiots who abuse the system, which based on your reactions I'm guessing you're an abuser.
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says: so there is no women who av abuse the system
~~~~~~~~~~~ You god damned LIAR... you didnt say "abuse the system" ...you said use aboriton as birth control & THAT is what I responded to. Youre too stupid for me to debate with. AND, YOU are NOT the frickin judge of whats is abusing the system & what isnt. When you learn no tto lie, OR when you learn to comprehend what you read...get back w/me..meaning I wont see you again
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 But your the judge of what is and isn't a life? Sorry that's Gods job and in his eyes abortion IS murder period, but you justify your murders however you want, you're a hypocrite and a fool and since your shoe size is obviously higher than your IQ I'm done debating you you hate mongering baby killing bitch.
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says but your the judge of what is and isnt life
~~~~~~~~~ NO, you god damned dumb ass!!! What in the hell is wrong with EACH of you idiots , that not one of you can comprehend what the hell you read???? Who in the hell said I was the one who made that decision????? Good god, Its the law...and i dont make laws....and a fetus hasent been a life, as we know it, since this countries beginning. Youre too stupid for me to talk to . I might as well debate a 5 yr old.. BYE
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says im done debating you
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats because you know you'll lose, and that im right..... thats why abortion is legal and you dumbasses cant change that with all your lying BS!! BYE
PRO CHOICE...PRO WOMEN...PRO ROE, hahahah
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 Thank you for proving my point that your a complete idiot.
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says: f your too fucking stupid or lazy to use birth control when you know you don't want a child then maybe your too stupid to be allowed to raise children.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats it sweetheart...thats where abortion comes in, because women are too smart to have million of unwanted babies to be thrown away for someone else to deal with. Youre a child abuser if you think they should!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Tygra81 says if youre too fucking lazy to use birth control
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Why dont you buy a little plastic badge, and make yourself the sex police and you can go door to door making sure everyone in having sex the way YOU want them to. How does that sound? AND, that means we can do the same to you, and I have some great ideas for YOUR reproductive decision...have we got a deal?
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@Sueezee1 You act as though I want to BAN abortions, no that would be idiotic, you want to ignore the problem all together which is also idiotic. I want people to to become educated to take precautions to protect themselves to eventually make abortions unnecessary, why am I a bad guy for wanting people to be responsible for themselves? I want people to be safe and to you that makes me a villain so I ask you why is educating people to make better decisions so horrible?
Tygra81 1 year ago
@Tygra81 to fucking lazy to use birth control
~~~~~~~~~~~~ KJust keep your nose out of other womens vaginas..its none of your business, you creep!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
The quiet, nicey nicey folks are protesting in favour limiting the freedoms of the shouty brigade. In the face of such faith-based religious fascism, albeit peacefully expressed, i can understand why they're so indignant.
lo2enge 1 year ago
meow.
yournameheresch 1 year ago
Abortion is murder! full stop!
sweetassuzy 1 year ago
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ABORTION IS NOT JUST MURDER? IT IS ROBBING AN ENTRIE GENERATION OF GREATNESS!!!! .....WHO KNOWS WHAT BABIES ARE BEING DESTROYED ...THAT HAD THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO GROW UP AND BECOME ADULTS, COULD HAVE HAD THE CURE TO AIDS, OR CANCER OR SOME OTHER GREAT DISCOVERY....ABORTION IS A THIEF IN THE HIGHEST DEGREE!
sweetassuzy 1 year ago
Nothing like beautiful editing. Some pretty music, some sad looking faces and all of a sudden the christian right looks so sweet, sympathetic living and caring. Please. spare me.
kitsunefoxfyre 1 year ago
"Your baby wants to live"
A fetus doesn't have wants. It's mother however has wants, plans, hopes and dreams which, if abortion is made illegal, could be completely shattered.
purplesnails22 1 year ago
These pro-lifers will stand in the rain and support the foetus with all the strength they can muster. Once the foetus becomes a child, and is born to a poor family, or is gay, or a minority, or becomes lost in a social under class, their support and understanding suddenly disappears. Pro-life, as long as it's the right type of life.
kady7869 1 year ago 23
@kady7869 I couldn't agree more, right now in May 2011 in Ohio, the Heartbeat Bill is being discussed, meanwhile, Governor Kaisch and the Ohio Republicans in Congress are in favor of a Budget similar to the Ryan Plan being discussed in Federal Congress that would gut social programs to give money in tax breaks to the rich. I agree they are only pro-life when it comes to protecting a embryo, zygote or fetus, after that Ohio Babies will starve. Excellent point.
breemystic 9 months ago
@kady7869
In a formal debate, you would be corrected for skirting the issue, in an attempt to distract the audience. Try to think rationally. Pro-lifers value all human life, from conception to natural death. But what makes abortion so important, is that it is the most innocent who are the victims, by the millions. If our country can't get this right, then how can it hope to get anything else right; poverty, war, racism, etc?
threerisingsuns 6 months ago 2
@threerisingsuns if you valued human life then you'd value the continue of our species. if you continue to manipulate the minds of others with your strictly emotional protests that lack any sort of logic you will see the demise, not just of a fetus but to all humans. what do you think will happen in the near future, if we continue to over populate the world? a world that can barely sustain life for us in its current state. 2/3s of our resources are gone from over consumption. do the research!
thecurse23 4 months ago
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PRO-LIFERS IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR CHILDREN CONSIDER THE ONES THAT CARELESS MOTHERS ALREADY BROUGHT INTO THIS WORLD AND ARE SUFFERING SOME KIND OF ABUSE BY THEIR IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS OR IN THE HAND OF A RAPIST PRIEST OR ANY OTHER CHURCH ORGANIZATION REPRESENTATIVE .
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
I am pro choice but only to the 8th month
Howard Stern
HowardSternn 1 year ago
i m totally pro choice.God bless the women who fought for the right to have a choice about our bodies.Yes,our bodies.
MsIsabella28 1 year ago
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truthinreality 1 year ago
@truthinreality I M PRO CHOICE,PERIOD.
MsIsabella28 1 year ago
@MsIsabella28: Is it still 'your' body when after a botched abortion attempt the BAIPA legislation kicks in and the CHILD spends the rest of HER life without an arm and an eye? Your baby, either the most precious thing of ALL to you, or something fit for death, removal and disposal? Wow, how incredibly selfish and disgusting.
truthinreality 1 year ago
@MsIsabella28 please my friend if you say GOD bless the womans choice, then why would god want you to have the choice to take away what HE has given?
please look in your heart for the answer :)
superflynapoleon 1 year ago
If you are pro choice why do you take away the choice of a baby to live or not?
Don't babies have the right to decide if they want to be born and be alive?
If you were pro choice, then you would allow babies to be born and not take that choice away from them.
Women do have a choice they, they have the choice to have sex and have a baby or not have sex and not have a baby. No one takes that choice from them
Crater4k 1 year ago
@Crater4k
why stop at the fetus? the sperms and the eggs should have a choice. They should have the choice to not be stopped by a condom or the egg dumped in the toilet because the girl didn't have sex.
atmdusty 1 year ago
Although I'm against abortion, I'd never force a woman NOT to get one. They're right, it's their choice, not mine. My opinion, their opinion. I just wish pro choice women would use it for a better reason then "convenience" or it's not a human being. I can understand if the woman or the baby or both were deathly ill, or the woman at hand was raped, but it's wrongful to use such a drastic procedure for selfish reasons.
FringeFreak56 1 year ago
@FringeFreak56
wrong, abortion out of convenience is not wrong ( if so, prove it. if not, stop with the moral relativism), since it's a woman's civil, constitutional and moral right to have one...if she needed or desired one.
there's nothing selfish about abortion, her body, her life, her rights. a fetus has no right to live inside a woman's body against her will.
just like it's not selfish for you not wanting to donate your kidney to save a life. when you have a right not too.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago
@FREEAMERICANOW69
Well....can you at least explain to me why it's a good thing. What good comes out of it. Women get to continue being as slutty as they want with a disgusting form of birth control (you tell me it isn't)...okay I get
FringeFreak56 1 year ago
@FringeFreak56
i already did, woman's civil, constitutional (13th and 14th amendment), moral rights to have one means nothing to you?
who do you know that only slutty women gets abortions?
you have a thing about believing your moral relativism is law for everyone.
yeah it is. her rights to her body.
FREEAMERICANOW69 1 year ago 2
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illegal or not, it wont go away. the only thing you pro life morons will accomplish is increasing the rate of for lack of a better term"back alley abortions". by making it illegal for a trained medical doctor to do so in a safe, steril enviorment. ask youself, are you solvng a problem or making a bigger one? without a trained doctor/safe enviorment will she be more prone to injury and possibly death. what if the delivery of the baby would spell death for her. so who are you really helping?
roxas12590 1 year ago
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TRUTH- It seems that most of these responses are just selfish and nothing else. Some are just to stir the "pot up".
I truly believe that once we start placing value on peoples lives, whether viewed valuable or unimportant, we are in trouble.
Soon we will be in telling the sick, sorry you aren't worth saving or taking care of because you are only going to die anyways-
We all need to value life from conception to natural death or it may be YOUR LIFE THAT IS ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK!!
angelshoulders 1 year ago
only a FAG can hit notes like that
MykeOkslong 1 year ago
you know in the 50's more abortions took place because of religion
chestersimpson 1 year ago
you dumb christians don't picket when 1,000,000 iraqis are killed for no reason. no WMD!! and you want to step on a woman's freedom to choose. Morons!
msquestionmark 1 year ago
@msquestionmark Killing isn't a choice numskull.
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago
@msquestionmark Also, I'm pro life, anti war, and anti death penalty, but a prejudice bigot like you wouldn't realize that.
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago
why don't you nutjobs stop your whoring wives and daughters instead of picketing at clinics and killing abortion doctors. have some restraint, jeez! quit fucking around like mindless animals!
oh well, stupid brainwashed christians. what else can you expect from them?
msquestionmark 1 year ago
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msquestionmark 1 year ago
You people are pretty much everything wrong with modern culture: brainwashed. Until you start thinking for yourselves instead of allowing "science" to be shoved down your throat as unquestionable truth, your lives are being wasted.
garbagemann123456 2 years ago
@garbagemann123456 You're the one that sounds brainwashed.. science is fact, understanding, learning, coming together to develop and enhance, to better things around us.
Without our brainwashing science we wouldn't have medicine, glasses, vehicles, the damn computer your worthless ass is using..
Hell, we wouldn't even have fire, since harnessing the uses of fire is the most important discovery in the history of humankind.
..or are you a thumper? If so, your lack of education is excused. :)
RyddelIsFree 2 years ago 2
I can dissect and debunk your terribly formed "argument" (if we can even call it that) quite easily: my analysis of the manner in which the average person views and accepts science has nothing to do with the products that science has given us. You are so blinded and preoccupied with your supposed "strong point" (i.e. the benefits of science meaning it is inherently good) that you fail to engage in any coherent philosophical discussion. You "strong point" is actually flawed as well.
garbagemann123456 2 years ago
resorting to "thumper" at the end of your "argument" only reveals that you think irrelevant ad hominems contribute to what you are saying and inflate your pride. I would suggest enrolling in a few philosophy classes while you are still young enough to have your parents pay for it. otherwise, you will continue to go around representing a youth of poor judgment and critical thinking skills, with the shared mindset of "science is great, thou shalt not question."
garbagemann123456 2 years ago
And one final suggestion: read some Husserl. He might be able to convince you of the inanity of people believing that as science progresses so does morality. Get with the program and educate yourself. Reading a book will get you much further than clicking the thumbs down next to my posts.
garbagemann123456 2 years ago
Man, I'm sorry, but I just can't get over what you wrote..."science is fact...betters things around us." What the hell is that, seriously??? I'm sorry but I can't return here to respond to you. I wish you could empathize with how much disillusionment I am feeling because of you...you are so in the dark and led astray. Nothing I say can really help you. And then to say someone else has a lack of education?? This is amazing. Well, this is youtube.
garbagemann123456 2 years ago
I can see why actual thinkers do not populate youtube. What more should I expect from mainstream culture at it's epitome? I was actually discussing this with a professor of mine, and we agreed that it is best to stay out of the amateur forum. Why reason with those who can't respond to rationality? It is a complete waste of time and effort. I'm close to absolutely certain that my words will all be wasted, on you at least. So with that....later, kid.
garbagemann123456 2 years ago
@garbagemann123456 Sad that this uneducated 'kid' is actually a registered medical professional for the handicapped and infirm.
I don't need to read another persons' books or ideals to tell myself how to think, or feel- I know what is right and what is wrong-
Feel free to pity me for whatever strange psycho-babble reasons you have- in the end of the day I'm the one fighting for women's rights and AGAINST child abuse/poverty/neglect.
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Read the first damn page. Yay?
RyddelIsFree 2 years ago
@RyddelIsFree Your against neglect. So you would gladly throw a woman in prison for making the choice to not to care for her child anymore, but are ok for her making the choice to kill him/her?
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago
@bcmasta1returns Yes. If you actually bring a child into the world, the child deserves what all children deserve- a healthy, happy home. If you don't want to bring that child into the world to begin with, then perhaps it is for the best both for the child and mother.
I aborted at 14 to prevent pregnant homelessness at 14, asault&battery of my potential child in my home, and b/c child services outright ignored my report of being held down and hit in the face w/ belt.
You tell me what to do?
RyddelIsFree 1 year ago
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@garbagemann123456 How many posts will it take to stop abortion????????
Surely whining on You Tube will do the trick!
100chemosabe 2 years ago
I'm Pro-Life wait I'm Pro-Choice wait I'm Pro-Life i think i will stay as a Choicer since i could make a living out of that.
HowardSternn 2 years ago
The difference, in this video, between pro-life and pro-choice demonstrators is simple: representation. This video tried to make pro life supporters seems more compassionate, more dramatic and in the historical sense, romantic.
It showed a couple of clips of pro choice supporters. The footage in these clips was radically different because it had the actual audio and was edited to make them appear unruly.
spag1024 2 years ago 9
This is incorrect. The original footage of the pro-choice side was actually *more* unruly, and many of the obscene gestures had to be removed.
And this is common at any pro-life rally. Anyone who has actually been to a pro-life rally knows that what the media portrays is opposite of reality. And it is unfortunate that many Americans are duped by the media in this way.
threerisingsuns 2 years ago 7
That you for putting this. I've been to the March for Life twice and your completely right.
sunnyspike 2 years ago
@spag1024
Absolutely. Anyone remotely intelligent (and with a decent taste in music) would be able to decipher the type of emotional, deluded theatrics that are rampant with ALL AntiChoicers.
Sorry guys, this type of shit only fools like-minded twits :/
BethisRad 1 year ago
@BethisRad says;Anyone remotely intelligent (and with a decent taste in music) would be able to decipher the type of emotional, deluded theatrics that are rampant with ALL AntiChoicers.
~~~~~~~~~ That was beautiful!!
Sueezee1 1 year ago
@BethisRad LOL
That's all you got to defend your choice to murder innocent lives is "DECENT TASTE IN MUSIC"?
Think about this = It's better to be silent and be" thought" the fool,, Then it is to speak out and remove all doubt.
But being the fool you have shown that you are,,,I doubt you even understand.
ekajeht 1 year ago
Maybe slutty bitches shouldn't fuck anything with a dick and there wouldn't be this problem.........
dudeman1109 2 years ago
@dudeman1109
Maybe if schools gave out better infomation about birth control we wouldn't be in this situation.
FeminaziPrincess 2 years ago 3
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Antichoicers, in their noble crusade to ease the suffering of the unborn, are personally responsible for so much real world pain, it would be clearly just if they themselves felt it! Scarcity, global STORMING, and the destruction of LIFE ON EARTH you dark ages foolhardy, despite what you BELIEVE, science will NEVER let you go without the direct blame in history. Your cruelty to all sentient life shall not go unremembered!
By: gene diseased
savercorp 2 years ago
You know that Coldplay is one of the most pro-choice bands on the planet, right?
skanemermaid 2 years ago 2
correct. read the lyrics to the song 'Scientist' by this band.
spag1024 2 years ago
This video was clearly biased because it only showed a couple clips of the pro-choice people, and you could barely read any of their signs.
PrairieFire8 2 years ago 3
Um....
1 star for you because overall your video was biased. The media is at least SEEMINGLY balanced.
WindChildsWorld 2 years ago
for those who think the fetus can feel pain you are wrong. it doesnt feel pain until the 7-8 month. and technically it isnt even a child , it has no rights yet. It cant even live with out the support of the mom
choicesforall 2 years ago
You're wrong because as technology gets better, fetuses can survive out of mother at much earlier stages. Soon, there will be no excuse.
omnius5757 2 years ago
And another thing. In the vid explanation, it says "what the MEDIA ignores." In the description it says that this footage was shot by Fransiscan... ...What?
mst3000k 2 years ago
How come pro-lifers just protest? needy children need MONEY for resources not someone holding a sign. You never see any of them work a second job or actually volunteering to help the children. Thats something Jesus would actually do.
flatpat1 2 years ago
Maybe he would, (and how do you know all of these pro-lifers DON'T do any of those things you suggest?) but don't even TRY to tell me that Jesus would have accepted abortion until all these children are perfectly provided for. (I'm not even Christian, and I HATE invocations of "what Jesus would do" but you're the one who brought the subject up in the first place, so right back at you).
ADEAL918 2 years ago
Fight the right fight! Keep these babies alive!
dandice2006 2 years ago
"Women deserve better than abortion" funny, because abortion is not, never was, and never will be their only choice, if anything, the opposite has a chance of being true again one day.
Also, I simply laughed at the "thou shalt not kill" sign, since when did religious zealots/Fundie Fucktards have a big problem with killing? George Carlin said it best: the more devout they are, the more they see murder as being NEGOTIABLE, it all depends on who's doing the killing and who's getting killed.
Headhunter004 2 years ago 2
lol, A-FUCKING-MEN to that!
how many so-called -pro-life- patriotic americans wanted to drop 2,000 pound bombs on Iraqi/Afghanistan children and babies in 2001 and 2002?
but american female citizens having abortion is wrong and deserves that bible quote.
bullshit!
they can rally as much as they want...a female citizen that is not in their legal care having a legal abortion is really none of their business...and they know it and can't her from having one.
they should adopt a child.
FREEAMERICANOW69 2 years ago
Are you really gonna listen to a comedian on something like this?
omnius5757 2 years ago
You have to be kind of intellegent to be an effective comedian. George Carlin was savvy on the issues and the pychology of crazy people. Listen to him sometime, you might learn something.
WindChildsWorld 2 years ago
If you are (like Obama) "pro-choice", please watch a sonogram of an actual abortion. (They are rare for viewing. But there is one, from the 1980s, on You Tube: "Silent Scream part 3".) You see the fetus trying to avoid the abortionist who is killing her. Does she feel pain while being aborted? Judge for yourself. (None of us reading this know, firsthand, exactly how much pain she feels...because none of us reading this were, ourselves, aborted.)
kweer58 2 years ago
it's cool, christians. i wasn't aborted.
- 2nd coming of jesus
chrisash321 2 years ago
If I was coldplay I would sure the makers of this video for copyright infringement.
MrBCWCAN 2 years ago
If I was Coldplay I would sue the maker of the video for copyright infringement.
MrBCWCAN 2 years ago 2
My view of the argument. ^^^ vid responses
SporeFanCreator 2 years ago
"At 11 weeks, the (unborn child's) face and all parts of the upper and lower extremities are sensitive to touch." None of us reading this know how much pain the fetus feels while being aborted. (That's because none of us were aborted.) But watch the abortion sonogram ("Silent Scream") which is also on YouTube. Watch the infant's response to being killed by the abortionist's tools and judge for yourself.
kweer58 2 years ago
right, just let me ask keeping way from rape etc, when it comes to people just haveing a commen sense to use protection properly etc wouldint there be a less of a need for the use of abortion?
stevienickslover 2 years ago
Women, the gentler,kinder sex. Their friendships are deeper and mean more than men's; the nurturer - right, sure thing. What a farce - women may actually be the more depraved gender.
But its their bodies, their bodies! Pure vanity. A baby's life is worth 9 months of my time. Apparently, half the women of America won't make that trade.
jdcremin 2 years ago
@jdcremin
Accurate observations.
WhiteStar11111 7 months ago
Pro lifers arent this peaceful....
sandroeleven 2 years ago 3
I'll say they aren't! Who are responsible for the bombings of abortion clinics and hospitals? The murder of doctors who perform abortions? The excommunication of a little nine or ten year old girl who was raped and had an abortion?
Karenjade 2 years ago 5
Karenjade and sand.
You are mistaking the pansy pro lifers for the anti abortion types like myself. I fully admit I'm violent. If you had your child killed by a pro abort you'd want them all dead as well.
But, that's not the only reason I hate you pro aborts and abortionists. I hate you because you are ALL pedophiles, rapsists, and murderers or you protect them at the least.
Cont...
ThomasJS1 2 years ago
Prominent Chicago abortionist Richard Ragsdale made "kiddie porn" featuring his own 3-year-old daughter.
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Abortionist Dr. Ivan Namihas. Charged with four incidents of rape, 45 incidents of sexual abuse, gross negligence, and so on.
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Just a little sample for you of why we anti abortion types want all of you Pedophiles, Rapists, and Murderers dead.
Tiller got what was coming to him.
yours truly,
The angry, anti-abortion, Athiest
PS. go kill yourselves.
ThomasJS1 2 years ago
Again, tell us another myth. We could just as easilly call all pro lifers and anti-abortioners AKA anti-woman or anti-choice terrorists and murderers. At any rate, there must be something wrong with your thinking if you believe a doctor should be terrorized and murdered in a church but a woman has no right to want an unwanted zygote removed from her body and womb in a hospital.
Anyway, so sense in debating further with angry, irrational and violant people.
Karenjade 2 years ago
I'll repeat you're all just a bunch of pedophiles and rapists.
It's no wonder people kill abortionists. They're pedophiles.
But, that's pointless to talk about now with all that's happening in the US, I'll either stay and wait for a civil war and extract some vengence on pro aborts. Or leave and watch this country destroy itself.
ThomasJS1 2 years ago
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Oh cmon know, can you honestly say you never molested a child? We all have, so chill out, sit back, and get down with some good ol fasioned molestation.
Banminator 2 years ago
Uh huh... Right... So everyone who believes in a womans right to chose what goes on in her own body and her womb are criminals and trying to protect criminals. Tell us another myth.
And if you admit you are hateful and violant, then it's a good thing you aren't a parent and have no legal weight over a girls or womans decision over her body and her life.
Karenjade 2 years ago
Pro Choice = Pro Murder-Pro Death!
If you value life support pro life!
The elimination of a child for the benefit of convenience is simply fucking pathetic, disgusting, and sadistic!
0240327502485 2 years ago
Do you know how long it took women to get the freedom to choose? Way to try and take one giant step backwards. If abortion was illegal women would still and try to get abortions. Women and their fetus' would die in these unsafe, and unsterilized procedures. It's called learning from history.
DillPickles89 2 years ago 2
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0240327502485 2 years ago
Well put, DillPickles89.
asblue91 2 years ago
the vast majority of pro-choicers are NOT victims of anything, except a total lack of responsibility.....did you know that 47% of the women who have had abortions, have had more than one? ....almost half of the woman having abortions are repeatedly an utter lack of responsibility or accountability....THATS the face of abortion.
taffygirlgood 2 years ago