The last phase, even with the damage boost, was pure bedlam. So much shit happening on the field. Seeing this made me believe it was possible to control that all =) Good memories
god dude i really fucking miss just burning crusade. when everything was actually hard as shit. and only the best of the best guilds could conquer a boss like this
@Person62 Guess you grew up to late to whitness the upgrade in video quality on the internet :) 360is "normal" quality, 480p is HQ, 720 is HD and 1080p is Full HD.
nostolgic elitist morons from tbc will always b morons.....ppl who think cata fails r really retarded if u really dont like lk and cata then gtfo and go back to some tbc private server and b an elitist asshole there jst like how community was back in tbc....if u say u miss vanilla then sure we all do...but ill nvr agree with that for tbc since i hv experienced more then enough of tbc......now dont get me wrong im not talking abt pve/pvp im talking abt the expansion in general so to speak
@Summerhill11 no wonder u were either an elitist asshole in tbc or ur jst a junkie who fails to understand the fact that a game is supposed to b playable by every1 who pays to play it for fun not jst the ppl who think they r the best...get over it now....im sry but lk imo was ok not the best but the content was playable by every1 not jst the best guilds like wat it was in tbc since in tbc not every1 got to see end game wich sucks coz u frigging pay money for it and dont get to see it..
@Summerhill11 thats one point but its supposed to b playable by all right ? not jst the best guilds. thats wat blizz said in one of its interviews ill try and link it if its still available
@MsDjdude you good sir, haven't quite understood the game.
everyone can play it, BUT there are a few things (dungeons, etc) which MUST be harder. Or there wouldnt be any more challenge and pleasure. Sorry if you can't be one of the "best".
If everyone could kill KJ or the last boss ever, what would it means? That you're good? not even...
Without any challenge, WoW would suck giant asses.
can't beat Karazhan that in my opinion is why BC is the best ever is that one raid! And this one but did not get much chance to do this one before I quit I was never very great!
@flydyryck loooool dude you havent tryed cataclysm yet, so you cant really say its good.. like i thought wrath of the lich king would be a awesome expansion but i got really disapointed. and im already disapointed with the new patch 4.0.1.
@blazingwarrior0 Link me your HC LK25. Been proven to be the hardest encounter in Wow sofar, stop facerolling easier instances and you might have a challenge?
I decided to search for WoW epic and hard Bosses, to see if they were real epic/hard. And I get this shit, I get Kael Thas, I get Ki'Jaeden, I get Lich King, I get Akamas I get Ilidan and I can only say: Why the fuck people think these are Epic Bosses???
TBC, at least the most fun pvp(although not the most AMBUSH DEAD LOL") expansion and the best in terms of pve. Ragnaros wasn't that much fun, we can all agree that threat was abit too little a challenge now. Now ppl are having trouble getting away from fired, the same ppl that are asking for "lfm icc25, DBW reserved" and are ending up as kingslayers the next hour. I miss the times when you had to have 25ppl realy focused to be able to clear the game at all. Welfare, yay -.-
my opinion bc was the best explanson out there, in vanilla i was only on 4 hours 3-4 times a week in an aq40 raiding guild, in bc i was on bout 6-7 hours a day on average just because there was sooooo much to do and it was hard, wotlk is shit, i barely play it i do like 2-3 hours a day for raids cuz im at the gold cap on 3 characters and it doesnt take that long to clear raids/intances now
Bc was better then wotlk yes but there are some aspects in wotlk that are heaps better then tbc but in cata they need to make the "heroic" dungeons heroic again like in tbc nowdays I can do every heroic dungeon in my sleep you don't even need a strat for them also the wotlk raids I can count with my fingers the amnount of challenging raids the rest sucked
@Richkickma not really but tbc is boring at one point the only thing good abt tbc was swp bt tk and ssc others r boring and pvp was not as balanced as every1 claims it to b blizz is dumb and will always make everything unbalanced so it all comes to the same point
Well no shit, they had to... people were getting upset case they couldent do BT.. and blizzard was losing their customers... they had to do something.. not everyone can fucking play this game 24/7 and TRY to be in those top guilds.. so they made WoTLK. I agree Vanilla and BC we're awesome, but still WoTLK was an expansion to pretty much let EVERYONE have a chance to down an awesome boss for lewt.. rofl
Well no shit, they had to... people were getting upset case they couldent do BT.. and blizzard was losing their customers... they had to do something.. not everyone can fucking play this game 24/7 and TRY to be in those top guilds.. so they made WoTLK. I agree Vanilla and BC we're awesome, but still WoTLK was an expansion to pretty much let EVERYONE have a chance to down an awesome boss for lewt.. rofl
@Didtheydieded This is true. But what happened to C'Thun wasn't exactly a "nerf" It was more a bug fix that actually made it killable. Of course, i cannot say for sure, I never encountered him back then, but that is what I've heard.
wrong...LK in hm 25 is the hardest boss encounter .. it took sk gaming 3 weeks 2 clear all bosses in sw but lk is still standing since 1month and 19 days and all off the top guilds are saying the same LK 25hm = hardest boss ever
@danielbyodk Yeah. The main thing I dislike about WotLK is that theyre making it harder and harder to distinguish yourself from everyone else through skill. Theres always gunna be bad players and exceptional players, but in BC you could really tell the standout players and guilds.
@HsaShuffe4life no. pre-bc had harder bosses. almost all of the end bosses needed to be nerfed before anyone could beat them. Twin Emperors, C'Thun, Four Horsemen, etc.
After 5 years im probably not going to play anymore. Oh well i can still have sweet dreams of 1.9. Sweet new gear graphics,AQ and not as broken gameplay. WoW never sounded better.
is it me or does the player keep changing?...at first it looked like for some reason a human healer, then an undead rogue (with a blade of azzinoth :P) and then a tauren guy..
i dont think bc was any harder than wotlk, just game is kinda old already and i think bc was best of the best content and game was rly addicting at that times
The Burning Crusade had a lot of flaws though. Like Prot Pally capability, how squishy priests were in pvp, how o.p rogues were in pvp, how retarded Resilience was...etc. etc...
I hate WotLK though. DK's ruined pvp, they disrupted the balance of it. They have no class they are weak against. Too many spells are beginning to uselessly pollute hot bars...and Blizzard is basically pouring a 2L bottle of liquid chocolate onto 'Vanilla' ice cream.
This IS the true kil'jaeden from warcraft dumbo. And yes he probably would IF he had his full power. But as you can see (it's kinda hard to miss) he is only partialy summoned through the portal. And those suckers are the best the alliance/horde have to offer. A fair match storywise. And one of the best encounters ever made in the warcraft franchise imho.
why do the people say that "TBC" was so much dificult than WotLK? how many people there have killed Algalon for example? Is Anub'arak heroic mode an easy kill?
I know what I'm talking about, zonnic. I killed Kil'jaeden on the TBC at lvl 70 with my warlock, just one week before the nerf patch. I know it was amazingly difficult and I loved the combat.
And the last thing, I prefer TBC raids more than WotLK raids (except Ulduar, that I think it's brilliant). On my other post I was just saying that there are "hardmodes" that are hardest to kill than kil'jaeden. For example Mimiron hard or yogg without guardians (before the nerf, obviusly)
erm no.. we did kil'jaeden with 11 guys last week. 3 of them were 70-72, went afk, died and looted afterwards. If you wipe with 80s then it is only because you dont understand the enounter mechanic.
yeah.. we wiped long days and nights.. never got to kill him before the nerf. And we were a bunch of very skilled players imho. Acutally i never had such a good flow in any other raid after that again. Muru really felt like running into a concrete wall.. good times they were :)
People talk like shits easy but the new ICC fights are decently hard even for a pug just wait till hard modes comes out. Even putricide on 25 had 4-5 days before the best guilds cleared it, just wait untill the later bosses come out, let alone the hardmodes.
i agree the ICC fights are pretty decent however you can still pug 25m version. in bc you did not see people pugging sunwell. sure some people tried, never seen a pug get passed first boss in sunwell though.
true. But then again sunwell had no hardmodes. I mean.. its GOOD that anyone can see the content. It just pisses me off that people think doing no hardmodes is "content clear". Unless you've done all hardmodes you achieved shit imho. But then again i may have set my standards too high and im probably a big jerk when it comes to what i expect of myself and others in wow (performancewise).
Its funny how ppl thinks that WOTLK hard modes are harder than old raids... like this pal said, hard modes ARE NOTHING I mean NOTHING compared to SSC, TK, BT, and SWP... fights like Kael, Vash, Archimonde, Bloodboil, Illidan and all sunwells are just epic... I guess time changes probably for good because raiding doesnt feel like a no-paying job anymore... thats only my opinion of course.
der hexer 7K zu bc zeiten überheftigst , früher bisste noch nich ma mit 10K life rumgelaufen , des nenn ich ma übelsten dmg genauso wie der rogue , hab 2.5 critts geschafft im raid aber der 3K hola die waldfee^^
You've gotta think why they made things easier. When new players arrive, either they find a good guild that helps players or they get run down by retard guild masters that keep saying "ur not geared GTFO". PuGs are needed in WoW and guilds are nothing more than a group of undeveloped 25-yr old pussies that don't care if the sky is blue, flowers grow pink or if their last bath was 3 weeks ago.
@efusiongaming lololol no.. Learn your shit, i bet you were one of those people who never got into a good guild b/c u never put forth the time or effort into getting gear, scrub. :P
@efusiongaming In a guild: Do a quick application, if they let you join you sign for a raid come online when the raid is on then go offline.
PUG: Spend about 45 minutes getting a group that wipes then after 1 wipe about 3 people leave, then you attempt to carry on eventualy wiping again, 5 more people leave then you go to a city get new people then repeat.
Wow you're retarded. Vanilla and BC were always the shit. I don't remember people QQing half as much about BC as they do about Wrath. Wrath's a joke just like someone said above. "LFM TOGC" and clear. Never did I see a "LFM SW" during TBC. cause a pug wouldn't down the first trash pull in sunwell. The same goes for Black Temple. Only the top few guilds on every server was clearing BT until the end of tbc when blizzard gimped the shit out of it along with sw.
While I agree with what you are saying, "LFM TOGC" would not be the equivalent of sunwell. Guessing TOGC would be SSC/BTish where perhaps heroic ICC would be Sunwell? Who knows.
@v319 COMPLETELY AGREED , wotlk is to puggable , to easy and no attunements , i never saw a lfm SSC/TK until the very end of tbc. now people pugg everything its to easy , and is made easier every single patch , WOTLK is a joke. they made a fantastic game and spoilt it , its a shame , Vanilla and BC were good times and will always be better than blizzards new shit attitude in "Make everything eaiser"!.
Uh huh, That's why they're making a pre-BC server in cataclysm but not a BC one. You know why? Because it fucking sucked. Sure, the questing and new zones were awesome. But the raiding system just fucking sucked. Not that it was easy or hard, but how it went with the game, didn't make any sense.
They're making a pre bc server when cataclysm comes out?u sure? Blizzard have always been massivly against the making of pre bc servers as far as I'm aware
@v319 That's not because the content is hard, it's because people are shit, or things take too long to do.
Nothing about this game is hard, the past was only open to people without a life outside wow, Blizzard is allowing people who don't wish to play the game for an eternity, to come and enjoy it.
To be honest, I have always been annoyed by peoples lack of ability to handle an encounter, so I am also happy that Cataclysm makes 10 and 25 man raids equal in gear.
@v319 I agree me guild was in 1st for our realm and we did Sunwell every week and it took 2 months before we could get Kil'Jaeden. I prefer TBC it was tougher therefore more fun
@v319 I agree me guild was in 1st for our realm and we did Sunwell every week and it took 2 months before we could get Kil'Jaeden. I prefer TBC it was tougher therefore more fun.
LOL @ HYPOCRITES SAYING TBC WAS THE BEST! LMFAO, notice how it's the same people during the burning crusade who said pre-BC was better. When Cataclysm comes out they will say WotLK is better. What has this world come to?
All problems would be solveded - if Blizzard just could make servers, where the maks lvl where ofc 60 for classic, and servers for lvl 70 (Tbc) - people could choose for them selfs, and get that same exp as old raiders. + peepz, like myself are getting tired of WoW cause Wotlc - (specialy latest patch, TotC)
I just cant get enough of people judging all wotlk raids under Naxx difficulty, yes they made Naxx a joke, you know why? To match the FIRST tier of raiding wotlk had to offer, basically instead of comparing it to sunwell, compare it to Kara and youll see the difference decreases. Cant believe that idiots are STILL comparing SwP to Naxx, its common sense to assume that the raids start out easy and increases in difficulty as the raid tiers progress. Stop making a fool out of yourself please. kkthx
Pretty stupid thing to say, as far as difficulty of the two instances go, Karazhan (as a 10 man) was a lot harder and took guilds longer to clear. Retarded shit aside, TBC was and always will be the best expansion ever released for WoW. There's no distinction between players in WoW today, unless they make the normal version of Icecrown Sunwell #2 and Hard-mode 42x the Difficulty, It's still not going to match TBC Sunwell.
I think u pretty decently missed my point, which was: It was the first tier, its supposed to be the easiest raid tier for that expansion. Ofc there will be difference between kara and Naxx now, but they both share the fact that they are and always will be the first raiding tiers, hence the difficulty. kkthx
BC... good? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! I remember when all of you said "BC is fail"! "What happened to pre-BC"? "Fuck Blizzard"! But now WotLK comes out and you love the BC right? Fucking hypocrites. Same thing will happen when Cataclysm comes out. You will all say "WotLK was the best"! "What happened to the good WoW"? Don't deny it, because you know damn well that will happen. And I guarantee it will be 95% of you that have watched this video.
Uhm... Look back you fucking tard. People werent pugging the end game content in either BC or vanilla. Now you see "LFM TOGC" in lfg and they beat it. So you are the dumbass. In wotlk, you can now buy teir gear with badges. In BC you couldn't even come close. In vanilla there were no badges. I love people who think that they know everything. Shut the fuck up dumbass
HAHAH! I quit. However, you can check my armory of my hunter. Argentas US Laughing Skull. NE hunter. I quit after railizing that WOTLK sucks so hard. but GG buddy GG.
So you can't say WotLK raids are a push over. Oh sure, Naxx and ToC 10/25 are, even ULD is sometimes a push over. But try doing ToGC 10/25. You cannot say anything before beat them. BC = Failure of Blizz
@GOllumboy101...bc failure?I bet you are one of these retards that cleared BC raids at 80 and are happy about that achievement...Have you ever beat kael kil'jaeden and many other bosses at lvl 70?I though so
And you have right? LOL You beat Sunwell? You beat Black Temple? Sorry bud, but BC = fail. Because like the rest of you hypocrites, you said it was a fail when it was the BC. Now it's WotLK and you all say you loved the burning crusade. Fuck man, a world with a bunch of fucking retards.
The last phase, even with the damage boost, was pure bedlam. So much shit happening on the field. Seeing this made me believe it was possible to control that all =) Good memories
orim 3 weeks ago
THUMBS UP TO MAKE BLIZZ TO LET US RAID SUNWELL AGAIN )';
mennaxo 1 month ago
shattered - wow dot com
spenner11823 1 month ago
shattered wow dot com
spenner11823 1 month ago
Such a great fight. Wsh I remembered more of it; I was usually pretty drunk most sttempts.
uhhhhism 2 months ago
Best video in WoW, best Time in WoW, ever.
IloveTwinky 3 months ago
Best kill in wow, by far.
sulfuricacidic 4 months ago
Give me a thumb, because your dumb! :D
iddTBCbrutals 4 months ago
TBC really define what wow has become now
arizothwow1 4 months ago
Airbase - Ocean Realm come on !!
Eliokov 5 months ago
BC the best FOREVER
MrTokieca 5 months ago
sunwell plateau best f ckin raid cata is boring
deatholme11 6 months ago
Sunwell Plateau was only a setback... I guarantee we're going to see Kil'Jaeden again...
contestimulation 6 months ago
TBC Forever, WoTLK and Cata suck!
ImMOrTaLBG92 7 months ago
damn this must be hard
yohitman 7 months ago
I remember when my guild had our first kill on mu'ru.. Mu'ru was a hardass motherfucker compared to KJ
TheThugiZe 8 months ago
Yeah i think ill definately go back and make a BC guild to do the raids again
VeryOxygen 8 months ago
god dude i really fucking miss just burning crusade. when everything was actually hard as shit. and only the best of the best guilds could conquer a boss like this
alexferoce 9 months ago
480p is not high quality :P
Person62 9 months ago
@Person62 Guess you grew up to late to whitness the upgrade in video quality on the internet :) 360is "normal" quality, 480p is HQ, 720 is HD and 1080p is Full HD.
Alfons92 7 months ago
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MiSTANAiZ 9 months ago
@Amuppet
You freed all the slaves in the whole battleground by yourself?!
Ragequitlulz 10 months ago
check freenix wow 2.4.3 patch private server it rocks...
ChEvApEr 10 months ago
SSC was so interesting for me :)) i remember when i was leveling in zangarmarsh and I accidently got in the pipe and went to SSC lol :D
hellchargerr 11 months ago 12
@hellchargerr da. dobre. :D
kozunaaak 11 months ago
@kozunaaak roflqk :D:D:D
hellchargerr 11 months ago
@hellchargerr I can't understand why they'r giving thumbs to you :) Do you remember SSC or Hyjal? TBC forever !
MrHanslik 11 months ago
nostolgic elitist morons from tbc will always b morons.....ppl who think cata fails r really retarded if u really dont like lk and cata then gtfo and go back to some tbc private server and b an elitist asshole there jst like how community was back in tbc....if u say u miss vanilla then sure we all do...but ill nvr agree with that for tbc since i hv experienced more then enough of tbc......now dont get me wrong im not talking abt pve/pvp im talking abt the expansion in general so to speak
MsDjdude 1 year ago
the final boss of an expansion must be so powerful that only few succeed.... woltk failt
Summerhill11 1 year ago
@Summerhill11 no wonder u were either an elitist asshole in tbc or ur jst a junkie who fails to understand the fact that a game is supposed to b playable by every1 who pays to play it for fun not jst the ppl who think they r the best...get over it now....im sry but lk imo was ok not the best but the content was playable by every1 not jst the best guilds like wat it was in tbc since in tbc not every1 got to see end game wich sucks coz u frigging pay money for it and dont get to see it..
MsDjdude 1 year ago
@MsDjdude then im a elitist asshole because i hate it when the content is fuckin easy...
Summerhill11 1 year ago
@Summerhill11 thats one point but its supposed to b playable by all right ? not jst the best guilds. thats wat blizz said in one of its interviews ill try and link it if its still available
MsDjdude 1 year ago
@MsDjdude
I started in Wrath and I still thought it was too easy. I prefer having to work for my loot tbh.
ZoneNet1 1 year ago
@MsDjdude you good sir, haven't quite understood the game.
everyone can play it, BUT there are a few things (dungeons, etc) which MUST be harder. Or there wouldnt be any more challenge and pleasure. Sorry if you can't be one of the "best".
If everyone could kill KJ or the last boss ever, what would it means? That you're good? not even...
Without any challenge, WoW would suck giant asses.
JlgbRemains 1 year ago
@JlgbRemains whatever makes u happy,u know :)
MsDjdude 1 year ago
kil'jaeden look at his back
ivansmbj52 1 year ago
TBC forever ! Give me a thumb :D
MrHanslik 1 year ago 106
@MrHanslik
vanilla is
I1am1one 1 year ago
I cannot locate the mentioned "High quality" in this video
matolies 1 year ago
@matolies that button it's HD HQ he means the video by itself has hq
Merakal 1 year ago
omg i want TBC back!! i miss it so much
UberWoWEU1388 1 year ago
nerf morphling
chrisv2121212 1 year ago
BC ftw.
The bosses were more interesting (vashj, kael anyone?).
Sure some bosses here in wotlk are hard (lk25hc) and the mechanics are also pretty interesting.
But mostly the mechanics just feel.. boring? And most of them waay waay too easy.
That's just my opinion though.
lolhonez 1 year ago
can't beat Karazhan that in my opinion is why BC is the best ever is that one raid! And this one but did not get much chance to do this one before I quit I was never very great!
yankees2249 1 year ago
all expasions? mhmm there are only 2 by now - wrath suxx - bc was quite good -
Cataclysm rulez! ;)
flydyryck 1 year ago
@flydyryck loooool dude you havent tryed cataclysm yet, so you cant really say its good.. like i thought wrath of the lich king would be a awesome expansion but i got really disapointed. and im already disapointed with the new patch 4.0.1.
UberWoWEU1388 1 year ago
WOTLK raids are so easy i may cry :(
tobytheowner 1 year ago 2
@tobytheowner Sure. Link me your armory that states that you've done HC LK25.
dave021 1 year ago
naxx raids are so easy i may cry :(
tobytheowner 1 year ago
this video is from another time
a time where pve taked skill.....
blazingwarrior0 1 year ago 2
@blazingwarrior0 Link me your HC LK25. Been proven to be the hardest encounter in Wow sofar, stop facerolling easier instances and you might have a challenge?
dave021 1 year ago
I decided to search for WoW epic and hard Bosses, to see if they were real epic/hard. And I get this shit, I get Kael Thas, I get Ki'Jaeden, I get Lich King, I get Akamas I get Ilidan and I can only say: Why the fuck people think these are Epic Bosses???
13attles 1 year ago
@13attles the bossfight is nothing, the lore behind them is more important imo...
Columbian89 1 year ago
TBC, at least the most fun pvp(although not the most AMBUSH DEAD LOL") expansion and the best in terms of pve. Ragnaros wasn't that much fun, we can all agree that threat was abit too little a challenge now. Now ppl are having trouble getting away from fired, the same ppl that are asking for "lfm icc25, DBW reserved" and are ending up as kingslayers the next hour. I miss the times when you had to have 25ppl realy focused to be able to clear the game at all. Welfare, yay -.-
Sulfarose 1 year ago
my opinion bc was the best explanson out there, in vanilla i was only on 4 hours 3-4 times a week in an aq40 raiding guild, in bc i was on bout 6-7 hours a day on average just because there was sooooo much to do and it was hard, wotlk is shit, i barely play it i do like 2-3 hours a day for raids cuz im at the gold cap on 3 characters and it doesnt take that long to clear raids/intances now
maksymalol 1 year ago
361.000 GET!
Sch1n89 1 year ago
You think your ui looks cool but it doesn't!
RuuffusDesign 1 year ago
Bc was better then wotlk yes but there are some aspects in wotlk that are heaps better then tbc but in cata they need to make the "heroic" dungeons heroic again like in tbc nowdays I can do every heroic dungeon in my sleep you don't even need a strat for them also the wotlk raids I can count with my fingers the amnount of challenging raids the rest sucked
magnetman333 1 year ago
BC was better then Wolk
goatboy0088 1 year ago 2
please make the warcraftmovies-shit on start of your video away, then your video is good.
tubefan25884 1 year ago
bc was shit wolk is better lmo
MsDjdude 1 year ago
@MsDjdude have ur lost your mind? Wotlk is the shit.!
Richkickma 1 year ago
@Richkickma not really but tbc is boring at one point the only thing good abt tbc was swp bt tk and ssc others r boring and pvp was not as balanced as every1 claims it to b blizz is dumb and will always make everything unbalanced so it all comes to the same point
MsDjdude 1 year ago
I miss oldschool raiding. BC and Vanilla were so much more fun than Wotlk.
Skiierz 1 year ago
Well no shit, they had to... people were getting upset case they couldent do BT.. and blizzard was losing their customers... they had to do something.. not everyone can fucking play this game 24/7 and TRY to be in those top guilds.. so they made WoTLK. I agree Vanilla and BC we're awesome, but still WoTLK was an expansion to pretty much let EVERYONE have a chance to down an awesome boss for lewt.. rofl
SnappleAppleJuice 1 year ago
Well no shit, they had to... people were getting upset case they couldent do BT.. and blizzard was losing their customers... they had to do something.. not everyone can fucking play this game 24/7 and TRY to be in those top guilds.. so they made WoTLK. I agree Vanilla and BC we're awesome, but still WoTLK was an expansion to pretty much let EVERYONE have a chance to down an awesome boss for lewt.. rofl
SnappleAppleJuice 1 year ago
hardest fights of wrath = H LK 25m and Yogg 0
hardest fights in bc = M'uru and Kil'Jaeden
bc was harder overall
isetdogsonfire 1 year ago
@isetdogsonfire imo, I think that Ulduar was setting up WotLK to be a good expansion. However, ToC came out and really ruined it.
Verixus113 1 year ago
@Verixus113 ToC was kind of just a fill in before ICC.
GOllumboy101 1 year ago
@isetdogsonfire Kil'Jaeden was NOT HARD.
GOllumboy101 1 year ago
@isetdogsonfire Algalon is harder then yogg....
svedbergarn1 1 year ago
C'thun vs. M'uru
C'thun hands down. That encounter was literally impossible pre nerf. M'uru was hard as fuck, but not impossible pre nerf.
Didtheydieded 1 year ago 2
@Didtheydieded This is true. But what happened to C'Thun wasn't exactly a "nerf" It was more a bug fix that actually made it killable. Of course, i cannot say for sure, I never encountered him back then, but that is what I've heard.
areyu93 1 year ago
I almost burst into tears from 8:25 cause its so beautiful =)
cowboybebop521 1 year ago
well it took 170 wipes befor LK 25man hc died!
svedbergarn1 1 year ago
@svedbergarn1 really?!?!
Guitarledgend0123 1 year ago
@Guitarledgend0123 yepp:D
svedbergarn1 1 year ago
wrong...LK in hm 25 is the hardest boss encounter .. it took sk gaming 3 weeks 2 clear all bosses in sw but lk is still standing since 1month and 19 days and all off the top guilds are saying the same LK 25hm = hardest boss ever
HsaShuffe4life 1 year ago
M´uru>LK25hm
terdek1 1 year ago
@terdek1 not^^ muru was a real hard encounter
thats true but the lk in hardmode is the hardest one ever
@ LK25 hm ensidia has wiped twice as
much as on the muru encounter ... so thats no ture
HsaShuffe4life 1 year ago
@HsaShuffe4life Lich King encounter isn't harder, it's because now mostly everything depends on gear, back in pre-tbc and tbc it depended on skill
danielbyodk 1 year ago
@danielbyodk Yeah. The main thing I dislike about WotLK is that theyre making it harder and harder to distinguish yourself from everyone else through skill. Theres always gunna be bad players and exceptional players, but in BC you could really tell the standout players and guilds.
areyu93 1 year ago
C'thun > All.
Catnip645 1 year ago
@HsaShuffe4life no. pre-bc had harder bosses. almost all of the end bosses needed to be nerfed before anyone could beat them. Twin Emperors, C'Thun, Four Horsemen, etc.
wh0racle3 1 year ago
@wh0racle3 doesnt mean they were harder, means blizard fucked up with numbers
maksymalol 1 year ago
@HsaShuffe4life yeah but you needs to make icc10 then icc10 hardmode then icc25 then icc25hardmode so 3more things befor your apple make LK Hc.
svedbergarn1 1 year ago
Vanilla was the best.
Tbc i have mixed feelings about.
Wotlk is just horrible...
Cataclysm just changes everything.
After 5 years im probably not going to play anymore. Oh well i can still have sweet dreams of 1.9. Sweet new gear graphics,AQ and not as broken gameplay. WoW never sounded better.
biospark37 1 year ago
P.s I miss "The Cleaner".
biospark37 1 year ago
Icc is for random naps - muru was the real encounter .
:)
ruasnig 1 year ago
Hes hard in Heroic. Lick King
Palmbergz 1 year ago
i think M'uru was a way harder than ICC bosses now + the lich king - he is easier than KJ
hellchargerr 1 year ago
well one of em..
is it me or does the player keep changing?...at first it looked like for some reason a human healer, then an undead rogue (with a blade of azzinoth :P) and then a tauren guy..
._.
3muskalol 1 year ago
@3muskalol The healer was a fem troll shaman
DrNecromancer64 1 year ago
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DefineDeath090 1 year ago
wow if you look really closs in the guys mainhand (guy playing) he has a blade of azzinoth :O
3muskalol 1 year ago
what addons is he using for the interface?
recojocarton 1 year ago
i dont think bc was any harder than wotlk, just game is kinda old already and i think bc was best of the best content and game was rly addicting at that times
sadsamok 2 years ago
i cant understand why u are giving him thumbs down?its true. BC was the most addicting and interesting expansion from all
hellchargerr 2 years ago 53
@hellchargerr
The Burning Crusade had a lot of flaws though. Like Prot Pally capability, how squishy priests were in pvp, how o.p rogues were in pvp, how retarded Resilience was...etc. etc...
I hate WotLK though. DK's ruined pvp, they disrupted the balance of it. They have no class they are weak against. Too many spells are beginning to uselessly pollute hot bars...and Blizzard is basically pouring a 2L bottle of liquid chocolate onto 'Vanilla' ice cream.
DefineDeath090 1 year ago
@hellchargerr depending on what you believe for pvp or pve i would say pve yes most interesting, but pvp definatly vanilla wow was the best.
Omagathin 1 year ago
@hellchargerr
vanilla was
I1am1one 1 year ago
@hellchargerr I approve, TBC was raid wise very challenging and pvp was balanced.
I can remember that we where in S4 and I had a warrior in s2 pvp gear, yet I abolished the whole battleground on my own.
Amuppet 11 months ago
True Kil'Jaeden from true Warcraft would kill those suckers with only a thought.
bodo635 2 years ago
This IS the true kil'jaeden from warcraft dumbo. And yes he probably would IF he had his full power. But as you can see (it's kinda hard to miss) he is only partialy summoned through the portal. And those suckers are the best the alliance/horde have to offer. A fair match storywise. And one of the best encounters ever made in the warcraft franchise imho.
Samurailord 2 years ago
@bodo635
'True Warcraft' can suck a dick. There's no difference, you lore-humping faggot. If you want lore, go read the books.
Warcraft and World of Warcraft = Warcraft. Go cry a bitch river somewhere else.
DefineDeath090 1 year ago
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why do the people say that "TBC" was so much dificult than WotLK? how many people there have killed Algalon for example? Is Anub'arak heroic mode an easy kill?
sensonical 2 years ago
@sensonical
Mate this is so fucking hard. this instance still whipes 80s. a full group of 80s Their dps was like EPIC 2-3k dps!
zonnic1 2 years ago 2
I know what I'm talking about, zonnic. I killed Kil'jaeden on the TBC at lvl 70 with my warlock, just one week before the nerf patch. I know it was amazingly difficult and I loved the combat.
And the last thing, I prefer TBC raids more than WotLK raids (except Ulduar, that I think it's brilliant). On my other post I was just saying that there are "hardmodes" that are hardest to kill than kil'jaeden. For example Mimiron hard or yogg without guardians (before the nerf, obviusly)
sensonical 2 years ago
@sensonical 100% agreed! I LOVE ulduar! hardmodes ofc.
zonnic1 2 years ago
erm no.. we did kil'jaeden with 11 guys last week. 3 of them were 70-72, went afk, died and looted afterwards. If you wipe with 80s then it is only because you dont understand the enounter mechanic.
Samurailord 2 years ago
u play on private?
cybhoner 1 year ago
@zonnic1
If a group of 80's wiped on this, they clearly did not know the mechanics of the fight.
They must have all been partially retarded fan boys who have never raided a day in their life.
DefineDeath090 1 year ago
acutally yes.. anub is childs play compared to muru before nerf for example
Samurailord 2 years ago
Mu'ru was a beast before the nerf. When the patch came out 3 guilds in the world(?) had him down.
Skiierz 2 years ago 3
yeah.. we wiped long days and nights.. never got to kill him before the nerf. And we were a bunch of very skilled players imho. Acutally i never had such a good flow in any other raid after that again. Muru really felt like running into a concrete wall.. good times they were :)
Samurailord 2 years ago
True say Crpsegrinder
Tedericoe 2 years ago
People talk like shits easy but the new ICC fights are decently hard even for a pug just wait till hard modes comes out. Even putricide on 25 had 4-5 days before the best guilds cleared it, just wait untill the later bosses come out, let alone the hardmodes.
crpsegrnder 2 years ago
@crpsegrnder your so right
ttsblood 2 years ago
i agree the ICC fights are pretty decent however you can still pug 25m version. in bc you did not see people pugging sunwell. sure some people tried, never seen a pug get passed first boss in sunwell though.
lolrofllolhaha 2 years ago
true. But then again sunwell had no hardmodes. I mean.. its GOOD that anyone can see the content. It just pisses me off that people think doing no hardmodes is "content clear". Unless you've done all hardmodes you achieved shit imho. But then again i may have set my standards too high and im probably a big jerk when it comes to what i expect of myself and others in wow (performancewise).
Samurailord 2 years ago
@Samurailord lol yes you probably are but we won't hold it against you :) :)
tachikoma747 1 year ago
@san hardmodes are still noooooothing compared to SWP or BT
hell not even TK
bman2555 1 year ago 2
Its funny how ppl thinks that WOTLK hard modes are harder than old raids... like this pal said, hard modes ARE NOTHING I mean NOTHING compared to SSC, TK, BT, and SWP... fights like Kael, Vash, Archimonde, Bloodboil, Illidan and all sunwells are just epic... I guess time changes probably for good because raiding doesnt feel like a no-paying job anymore... thats only my opinion of course.
PotTheKinslayer 1 year ago
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DefineDeath090 1 year ago
go hm before say its to easy tards.
MegaLolhehe 2 years ago
der hexer 7K zu bc zeiten überheftigst , früher bisste noch nich ma mit 10K life rumgelaufen , des nenn ich ma übelsten dmg genauso wie der rogue , hab 2.5 critts geschafft im raid aber der 3K hola die waldfee^^
Pokerhonntas 2 years ago
You've gotta think why they made things easier. When new players arrive, either they find a good guild that helps players or they get run down by retard guild masters that keep saying "ur not geared GTFO". PuGs are needed in WoW and guilds are nothing more than a group of undeveloped 25-yr old pussies that don't care if the sky is blue, flowers grow pink or if their last bath was 3 weeks ago.
efusiongaming 2 years ago 3
rofl true that pretty much all of it
Atheist269 2 years ago
@efusiongaming
True, i quit wow way long ago.
Abduhi 2 years ago
@efusiongaming lololol no.. Learn your shit, i bet you were one of those people who never got into a good guild b/c u never put forth the time or effort into getting gear, scrub. :P
ilikepiedontu 1 year ago
@efusiongaming In a guild: Do a quick application, if they let you join you sign for a raid come online when the raid is on then go offline.
PUG: Spend about 45 minutes getting a group that wipes then after 1 wipe about 3 people leave, then you attempt to carry on eventualy wiping again, 5 more people leave then you go to a city get new people then repeat.
lolatmyaccounts 1 year ago
Ok...original wow not retard friendly wotlk wAs the best cuz people workd to get gd, not with badges. I miss the good ol days in molten core
SuperKKK4Life 2 years ago
what are the addons
Ravagar 2 years ago
hopefullly the lich king will be really hard and not easy. so those stupid pugs will get smashed trying 2 kill him
sk8trninjapwnmasterX 2 years ago
HA! let them pug him.. FROSTMOURNE HUNGERS!
sartte 2 years ago
This is seriously the best music / movie coordination I've ever seen. Whoever edited this is amazing.
Salis0 2 years ago 4
Wow you're retarded. Vanilla and BC were always the shit. I don't remember people QQing half as much about BC as they do about Wrath. Wrath's a joke just like someone said above. "LFM TOGC" and clear. Never did I see a "LFM SW" during TBC. cause a pug wouldn't down the first trash pull in sunwell. The same goes for Black Temple. Only the top few guilds on every server was clearing BT until the end of tbc when blizzard gimped the shit out of it along with sw.
v319 2 years ago 33
While I agree with what you are saying, "LFM TOGC" would not be the equivalent of sunwell. Guessing TOGC would be SSC/BTish where perhaps heroic ICC would be Sunwell? Who knows.
henkzawd 2 years ago
I would say ICC will be BTish before the nerf of illidan.
CuryzTheViryz 2 years ago
more like TK
CameronWasmund 2 years ago
@v319 COMPLETELY AGREED , wotlk is to puggable , to easy and no attunements , i never saw a lfm SSC/TK until the very end of tbc. now people pugg everything its to easy , and is made easier every single patch , WOTLK is a joke. they made a fantastic game and spoilt it , its a shame , Vanilla and BC were good times and will always be better than blizzards new shit attitude in "Make everything eaiser"!.
Chezzehbiatch 2 years ago
even icecrown is being pugged already... but then again, thats why heroic and normal difficulties exist nowadays. lets the scrubs see content...
DaBushy 2 years ago 2
Uh huh, That's why they're making a pre-BC server in cataclysm but not a BC one. You know why? Because it fucking sucked. Sure, the questing and new zones were awesome. But the raiding system just fucking sucked. Not that it was easy or hard, but how it went with the game, didn't make any sense.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
They're making a pre bc server when cataclysm comes out?u sure? Blizzard have always been massivly against the making of pre bc servers as far as I'm aware
xrichiexxx 2 years ago
@v319 That's not because the content is hard, it's because people are shit, or things take too long to do.
Nothing about this game is hard, the past was only open to people without a life outside wow, Blizzard is allowing people who don't wish to play the game for an eternity, to come and enjoy it.
To be honest, I have always been annoyed by peoples lack of ability to handle an encounter, so I am also happy that Cataclysm makes 10 and 25 man raids equal in gear.
aeonteleos 1 year ago
@v319 Acctually a lot of pugs cleared trash farmed rather easily.
wisedeath2 1 year ago
@v319 I agree me guild was in 1st for our realm and we did Sunwell every week and it took 2 months before we could get Kil'Jaeden. I prefer TBC it was tougher therefore more fun
314isabeast 1 year ago
@v319 I agree me guild was in 1st for our realm and we did Sunwell every week and it took 2 months before we could get Kil'Jaeden. I prefer TBC it was tougher therefore more fun.
314isabeast 1 year ago
@v319 um.... i pugged sunwell and we downed the first 4 bosses
acerr1123 1 year ago
@v319 tbc was gear dependant
Avoidlol 1 year ago
@v319 Yeah because creating content that the grand majority of players wouldn't be able to even see is good business strategy right?
Tippssy 1 year ago
@v319 So, HC LK25 proved to be the hardest encounter so far in wow. Care to change your view or are you still facerolling the easier encounters?
dave021 1 year ago
@dave021 LKHC25 has nothing on T4H and C'thun
lolatmyaccounts 1 year ago
i enjoyed bc during it and was glad it replaced original wow, the end game instances were only being pub'd when all those nerfs were put in
reuu1 2 years ago
tbc definatly best expansion
i especially liked it because of the relevance most raids had to warcraft 3
reuu1 2 years ago
fuck ur all nerds ay stfu
RWJhasa3footpen15 2 years ago
Who knew they could make an Eredar Lord look so retarded.
XUnsafeNormalX 2 years ago
LOL @ HYPOCRITES SAYING TBC WAS THE BEST! LMFAO, notice how it's the same people during the burning crusade who said pre-BC was better. When Cataclysm comes out they will say WotLK is better. What has this world come to?
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
cat will be much better than wotlk, you cant get worse than wotlk
jifyum07 2 years ago
So you still play it? Right, good job bud. you make perfect sense.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
Whats the song?
conna876 2 years ago
All problems would be solveded - if Blizzard just could make servers, where the maks lvl where ofc 60 for classic, and servers for lvl 70 (Tbc) - people could choose for them selfs, and get that same exp as old raiders. + peepz, like myself are getting tired of WoW cause Wotlc - (specialy latest patch, TotC)
Graulund 2 years ago
I just cant get enough of people judging all wotlk raids under Naxx difficulty, yes they made Naxx a joke, you know why? To match the FIRST tier of raiding wotlk had to offer, basically instead of comparing it to sunwell, compare it to Kara and youll see the difference decreases. Cant believe that idiots are STILL comparing SwP to Naxx, its common sense to assume that the raids start out easy and increases in difficulty as the raid tiers progress. Stop making a fool out of yourself please. kkthx
Tyronecrackman 2 years ago 2
Pretty stupid thing to say, as far as difficulty of the two instances go, Karazhan (as a 10 man) was a lot harder and took guilds longer to clear. Retarded shit aside, TBC was and always will be the best expansion ever released for WoW. There's no distinction between players in WoW today, unless they make the normal version of Icecrown Sunwell #2 and Hard-mode 42x the Difficulty, It's still not going to match TBC Sunwell.
tommyzkklol 2 years ago
I think u pretty decently missed my point, which was: It was the first tier, its supposed to be the easiest raid tier for that expansion. Ofc there will be difference between kara and Naxx now, but they both share the fact that they are and always will be the first raiding tiers, hence the difficulty. kkthx
Tyronecrackman 2 years ago
p.s, I do agree Tbc was the greatest expansion without a doubt.
Tyronecrackman 2 years ago 3
TBC = fail. Sorry, but it just was.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
WOTLK Is fail too... They made the game so much easier than BC. Vanilla is where it was at. Where you work for your shit instead of lawling.
Skiierz 2 years ago 2
No sorry, apparently you didn't read my other comment. You fail.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
BC... good? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! I remember when all of you said "BC is fail"! "What happened to pre-BC"? "Fuck Blizzard"! But now WotLK comes out and you love the BC right? Fucking hypocrites. Same thing will happen when Cataclysm comes out. You will all say "WotLK was the best"! "What happened to the good WoW"? Don't deny it, because you know damn well that will happen. And I guarantee it will be 95% of you that have watched this video.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago 6
This guy knows what the fuck he is talking about. It's so true. People hated everything about BC, but once it was gone, everyone QQ'd
Kcronan 2 years ago 3
Thanks :D
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
Uhm... Look back you fucking tard. People werent pugging the end game content in either BC or vanilla. Now you see "LFM TOGC" in lfg and they beat it. So you are the dumbass. In wotlk, you can now buy teir gear with badges. In BC you couldn't even come close. In vanilla there were no badges. I love people who think that they know everything. Shut the fuck up dumbass
Skiierz 2 years ago
I want you to tell the armory of your main character, and I want to check if you have beat ToC 10/25 ToGC 10/25 and/or Ulduar 10/25.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago
HAHAH! I quit. However, you can check my armory of my hunter. Argentas US Laughing Skull. NE hunter. I quit after railizing that WOTLK sucks so hard. but GG buddy GG.
Skiierz 2 years ago
So you can't say WotLK raids are a push over. Oh sure, Naxx and ToC 10/25 are, even ULD is sometimes a push over. But try doing ToGC 10/25. You cannot say anything before beat them. BC = Failure of Blizz
GOllumboy101 2 years ago 2
@GOllumboy101...bc failure?I bet you are one of these retards that cleared BC raids at 80 and are happy about that achievement...Have you ever beat kael kil'jaeden and many other bosses at lvl 70?I though so
skat24 2 years ago
And you have right? LOL You beat Sunwell? You beat Black Temple? Sorry bud, but BC = fail. Because like the rest of you hypocrites, you said it was a fail when it was the BC. Now it's WotLK and you all say you loved the burning crusade. Fuck man, a world with a bunch of fucking retards.
GOllumboy101 2 years ago 2