AUSTRALIAN ISLAMIST SPOKESMAN, UTHMAN BADAR, SPEAKS TO NINE'S TRACY GRIMSHAW

[Raj60074]

This joker didn't answer a single question she asked him... Him and his gang of hoodlums should be sent to Afghanistan so they can experience " sharia law" which they want in Australia

[AustraliaProud]

Yes indeed!! He's a conceited incurable hypocrite. As you say, if he's so pro sharia law, then there are plenty countries that would welcome him with open arms where he could live his life in complete submission

[TheGhostCrusader]

@MrChavre They wont change they want to change the west.

[yowsep78]

Send these fuckers back home along with their satanic literature. This is treason. Anyone who talks against our democracy should be gaoled.

[lilhavanaboys]

@yowsep78 LOL!!! "Anyone who talks against our Democracy should be gaoled!"

Then that defeats the propuse of having a Democracy if you are going to censor and kill anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You want a dictatorship. Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc all have and had horrible and inhuman actions, leaders, and views.

[aerowayne4]

@yowsep78 They need to send your ass somewhere.

[Oppetsismiimsitsitc]

A Current Affair is the most biased and retarded show on television, the bearded fellow does have some truths to his statement, well, one, at least, that being that the west has created enemies in the middle east due to supporting despots in places such as Saudi Arabia and Egypt (which has now had a revolution). It's just realpolitik.

That being said, friendship shouldn't exist with religious extremists who hate western society, civil liberties and wish to bring their problems to the west.

[AustraliaProud]

Oppetsismiimsitsitc

Regardless of your view of the programme's reputation, as "the most biased and retarded show....." that statement is completely irrelevant to this particular interview. Tracy Grimshaw gave Badir every opportunity to air his opinion and plenty of time. Many other hardline journos would have put him through the mill and hung him out to dry.

[AustraliaProud]

JDeshi87

In fact, I agree entirely with you and of course I confess I knew exactly what your position was from the beginning. You're absolutely right regarding the hypocrisy of Uthman. However, it's better for the public to hear what he has to say, rather than get rid of him, because by exposing his extremist views in this way he is doing his own cause far more harm than good.

[AustraliaProud]

JDeshi87

Your comment regarding a Bill of Rights is also irrelevant, as it was you who mentioned the privilege of democracy here and the hypocrisy of Uthman Badar taking advantage of it..

The very tenure of your comment was that this person deserves a violent public death for having extremist views you disagree with. Your view is also extremist, should we therefore call for your public hanging?

[AustraliaProud]

JDeshi87

I'm not twisting your words at all. I only draw conclusions based on what you actually said. You appeared to advocate extremist barbaric penalties for those with a different view to your own. And whether you're a Muslim or not is totally irrelevant. You said "he doesn't represent true Islam." This implies you're speaking for "true Islam" yourself and expressing an opinion on behalf of "true Islam".

[AustraliaProud]

JDeshi87

Right, so although you appear to trying to air the opinion of "true Islam" you also openly call for "public hanging."

Until Islam accepts that barbarism such as public hanging is completely unacceptable in modern Western societies, it will continue to be despised by so many in the West.

As you suggested it, I assume you support such violent penalties for people whose views differ from your own? That Sir/Madam, is profoundly unAustralian and profoundly undemocratic.

[chuckfinn]

Why cant he answer straight forward black and white questions?

[PsychoJay75]

Why is this asshole avoiding Tracy's questions?. What are they hiding?. What are their real motives for declaring an Islamic state in Australia, to assimilate other cultures?. I say leave democracy well alone. Australia is a country run by western values, not Islam. They can preach their bullshit in their own homes, but they're citizens of this country and they must embrace other cultures and respect people's religious and political views. Fuck your Islamic state faggots.....

[ParaParagon]

send this desert rat back to the desert hole he came from.

Ungrateful little parasitic rat.

[Grummel1971]

dont buy it....radikal islam is evil

/watch?v=lT0_NyXdIoo

/watch?v=xnOdD46WI0M

/watch?v=LsfZaoY2dmI

japanese are fine, chinese no problem, halve of russia is ok, a few turkish moslems were truely an inritchment but they still did let come more muslims and with them the stone age islamists came...oh joy to the world

watch this and tell me if you still want OZ to join the happy club of islams multikulti wonderland

[GSyd21]

Stop all Islam immigration to the West this must happen and NOW.

When Christians are free to worship and build churches in Saudi Arabia and are allowed to enter Mecca maybe then we can talk,I know this will never be possible so let them go it totally alone with no infidel tools and confiscate everything the infidel provides and they will be left with nothing.

[exanessa1234]

@ australian proud

as for rape even modern day court systems can make mistakes in their judgment i mean god might know the unknown and hidden but man doesn't . the only thing the perpetrator can do is make the best judgment in accordance to the evidence given to him. i mean if a person regardless of gender or age was to accuse some one or rape, murder or theft the perpetrator cant just punish according to what one person says if there isn't evidence

[exanessa1234]

@ australian proud

well if its not releavent then why are you saying that islam is a bad religion of violence and inequality. a muslim by defanition is someone who believes in and executes the teachings of the islamic religion. so if the person doesnt follow these teachings he or she is not a muslim i.e terrorism and islam can not co-exist with in the same person with out one overriding the other and islam can not be held accountable for what it to doesnt support

[yu5ufchy]

Thirdly, the hypocrisy which he is talking about is, if democracy is so firm on giving freedoms, then why is it that when there is an opinion which goes against the norms of society, that freedom should be subdued. similar to the burkha issue. So lets get our arguments straight, do we uphold freedom or are we just lying about it?

and to be honest i dont expect an intellectual response to this, because the "civilised" societies of the west prefer to shout comments such as "go back home"

[AustraliaProud]

yu5ufchy

You've made some valid points and I'm happy to have a conversation with you. But, did you really need to aggressively hit the ground running, with such intellectual scepticism and accusations of racism? Or are you cynically implying that others with a different opinion from yours must by definition, at the very least be less intelligent than you are, and are very probably racists to boot?

If you want to discuss this "intellectually" and without attitude, then please message me!

[yu5ufchy]

@AustraliaProud

intellectual sceptism - i would say a comment such as "go back home" is intellectually lacking

accusations of racism - i would say that the comment "go back home" is implying our lack of a home in the country we live in, hence i would say it is racist.

we'll continue discussion from the comment i placed on your account page? i think thats the more urgent discussion? and youve already replied to it, but if you want to continue on this one too by all means do!

[yu5ufchy]

First of all, lets get one thing straight, it was for mutual benefit (ie mainly after the world wars) that immigrants are now working in the west and other countries, lets not get into this idea that we were being given favours from these governments. Secondly, this just proves how racist western states really are, that an immigrant would always be considered a second class citizen and told to "go back home", mainly from people who lack the intellectual capacity to discuss.

[JedNZ]

so Australia takes these people in from where ever it is they came from....then these buggas demand a fucking state and expect everyone around them to change just to suit their needs? Are you fucking kidding me! If they dont like the ways of Australia then they can piss off back to where they came from and stop throwing what Australia has done for them back in its face. Sure as hell know they wouldnt like it if we tryed it on them in their country.

[KumarZimmerman08]

Why should our amazing country submit to this bullshit? sharia law? are you kidding me. I dont no how these savage muslims were raised but in australia, rape, child brides,, whipping,honour killings, violence against women is against all our morals!

[exanessa1234]

@KumarZimmerman08 and its against the morals of Islam to so instead of making comments based on stereotypes and the beliefs of so called "muslims" who pretty much break every rule in the islamic religion, go ahead and actually learn the simple bases of islam which is peace and freedom. rape is against the religion and so is violence against women. as for child brides i wouldnt call a girl or guy who have already hit pubirty and are getting it on with anyone willing a child.

[exanessa1234]

@exanessa1234 the idea of young marriages (and by the way for the marriage to be islamically lawful the person must be willing and must have come of age .i.e hit puberty) is to help avoid adultery and to supply people who cant control them self what they want lawfully. as for capital punishment such as whipping then that is only the punishment of adultery and can only be implemented if there are FOUR EYE WITNESSES and know what is the chance of having four people see it.

[exanessa1234]

@exanessa1234 anyway honour killing doesnt exsit in islam and im against this idea of waging war against australian im a 12th gen aussie and im very patriotic i would die for the country as well as for my religion

[exanessa1234]

@exanessa1234 as for honor killing um there is nothing in the religion about it and killing a person in anything other then self defense is islamically a sin and unlawful. im against the idea of trying to force the Islamic religion against anyone but there is nothing wrong with spreading the religion i mean we are going to offer you what we have take it or leave it its not our business but screaming out go back to your country is racist and violent as well as aggressive.

[KumarZimmerman08]

@exanessa1234

4:34 If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.

is that not violence?

[exanessa1234]

@KumarZimmerman08 if you were to put in the actions that the prophet showed when relating this the you would know that by hit them he used a small "miswak" twig like stick to demonstrate and he tapped the shoulder of the man sitting beside him..... the idea of hitting is to show disapproval not to inflict pain. and this is only valid if the wife does something against god not against her husband. and a wife is allowed to ignore her husband in bed if he to has done something against his lord..

[exanessa1234]

@exanessa1234 Quran 3:195 tells us :

"Their Lord responded to them: "I never fail to reward any worker among you for any work you do, be you MALE OR FEMALE, YOU ARE EQUAL TO ONE ANOTHER........." and so in our QURAN WHICH IS THE BASES OF OUR RELIGION AND THE ONLY THING WE CAN BASE OUR ARGUMENTS ON AS WELL AS THE SAYING OF THE PROPHET.... IT IS THERE IN PLAIN WORDS THAT WOMEN AND MEN ARE EQUAL.

and by the way this religion gave women equality in the 1000th century when women were objects

[exanessa1234]

@exanessa1234 in the western world they were not allowed to own land or even chose there own husband they were sold and made slaves were as in the muslim world slaves were against our religion....

[AustraliaProud]

exanessa1234

Rape is not always considered as rape by the perpetrator, so whether it's technically against the teaching of Islam or not is irrelevant.

I'm amazed at your remark concerning puberty. Menstruation can start as early as 8 years old. You simply cannot consider puberty as a measure of adulthood and it is certainly not an indicator of maturity. It varies from state to state, but in NSW under the Crimes Act 1900 (Sec 66C), it is illegal to have sex with anyone under 16

[TheWicksy1971]

I cant wait to go to my first public stoning in Australia!

[irweeny]

if he believes the australian governemnt is doing its bit over here to become an enemy, why does he come here or stay here and complain about it? i find it hard to listen to this dude without seeing ways in which he contradicts himself and his actions.

[TheViennaAustria]

1,5% Muslime are in Australia? Most of them Lebanese? That´s right?

They are hardcore!

I´ve got a death threat from a Lebanese, because the jerk thought, that i am Australian! omg. Take care of your beautiful country and nice inhabitants! In the whole world, they have the same behaviour and ugly appearance! I am wondering! the reason? maybe -ISLAM- and brainwashed?

[nickyboy22071989]

@TheViennaAustria they act hardcore but they're really pussies

[Aphony66]

@TheViennaAustria No their ideology is fukked and full of hatred and bloodshed. Fuck allah and mahomomad (piss and shit be upon him)

[petermelb]

It would be interesting to live by Sharia law for six months just to see what it is like. I live in Melbourne.

[showlink]

@petermelb I hear the Sudan is nice at this time of year!

[MrFakunda]

lol..intelligence is a completely foreign concept to this idiot

[sulyman751]

@MrFakunda PERSECUTION AND GENOCIDE SEEM TO BE FOREIGN TO YOU...

[qwer1234555sd]

@MrFakunda it's not just that he's a complete idiot. Muslims are used to exploiting our sense of political correctness, it's the only reason Islam is in the West today. We as a western society are also to blame for this idiocy

[Aphony66]

@qwer1234555sd You speak with the truth of a person who has researched this ...Well done and I applaud you

[Aphony66]

@MrFakunda What a lying son of a bitch is this prick. She cant even get a straight answer to a simple question out of this idiot. He is using something called Al Taqiyya to promote deception amongst the Australian people for his own agenda, which is to establish sharia here in Australia. This is how it starts people just take a look at America and Europe and see what devastation is happening there because of political correctness.... We are fukked if this shit is allowed to continue!

[MrFakunda]

typical two faced, pedophile worshipping parasite.

[leartiste2001]

What a piece of shit he is. Up until this interview, I was quite prepared to live and let live. Now I am anti-Islamic. Islam should have its tax free status revoked, and it protections as a religion revoked. It is a cult just like scientology.

[CivilizedJerk]

Fuck this idiot!

[mercurycid]

what a weasel, good to see my tax dollars at work.

ta for the heads up AProud

[slick3166]

Yeah EVERYTHING is taken out of "context."

[BoycottIslamUK]

Amazing he said his main fight is in the "Muslim world" yet he is in Australia, just speaking about these issues. If he cared that much he'd be in Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iraq. But ofc, there isn't any welfare benefits or freedom there.

We have people like this in the UK. We are all in this together!!

[Samueldeeb]

Excellent, was waiting for this one. where did you find it?