For those wondering, the music for Link was Red Hot by Vanessa Mae, and the music for Jigglypuff was Barbie Girl vs Ghostbusters, which can be downloaded from Keaton World. The names of the other pieces of music have already been said in other comments, but in short, they are We’re Not Gonna Take It, Pokémon Theme, and Ghost Love Score by NIghtwish.
6:36 was the best part. Ganon threw Sonic into the Bulborbs mouth, in which the Bulborb proceeds to swallow him and digest him while at the same time walking away.
This video was very well put together. Captain Falcon's music choice was absolutely perfect, and Ganon's montage was very well timed ("Wait, what about Ganondo--*Flame Choke*")
@Izayoiaki24 Gotta continue on the Ganondorf thing, though. I was watching and wondering, "Where's Ganondorf?", since he was my favorite character and the weakest character. Then I recognize something like Ghost Love Score, and then the music gets badass, and then Ganondorf proceeds to kill the universe. The only way it could be better is if, at the final note, he Warlock Punched the Mach Tornado.
Congratulations for all of your hard work on Balanced Brawl. I enjoy quite a bit more than vBrawl and Brawl+ (especially Brawl+), but then again, maybe that's because I'm a Samus main and she's quite a bit better now! :P
Just to clarify, BB can be used with custom textures / stages/ music etc. etc.?
@THEasianpianodude oh not a hack? ok i like hacks have you ever seen the what is mario villains what is love love baba dont hurt me i made a vid about it only cause its pure awsrome
We actually expected Wario to be impacted negatively more than most people suspected... and long-term testing has indicated that he has been impacted more than *we* expected! His reduced KO power really shows in a lot of matchups. We actually very very slightly un-nerfed him for the next release accordingly.
Falcon's section was epic. This looks really great.
On a side note, I actually have played on the Wi-Fi Waiting Room stage before in vBrawl, but it was due to some sort of glitch in Wi-Fi and the match froze about 30 seconds in. I wish I had been able to get a replay, but I got disconnected, so it wasn't possible.
Balanced Brawl is a complete set of character .pac files. It has nothing to do with Brawl+ or any other projects, though it can be loaded the same way.
@OfficerCooper No offense but I really think you still needed to fix some things. First off is to remove Snake's use of C4 on the air, and Second, remove Meta Knight's infinite Dimensional Cape. I also thought Falco needed some more nerfs such as lowered knockback and faster Reflector rate so it's less reliable to reflect and doesn't flinch. Otherwise,good job.
@randomdude222 No offense but I really think you still needed to fix some things. First off is to remove Snake's use of C4 on the air, and Second, remove Meta Knight's infinite Dimensional Cape. I also thought Falco needed some more nerfs such as lowered knockback and faster Reflector rate so it's less reliable to reflect. Otherwise,good job.
Boomerang does +1%, second swings of f-smash and fair do more knockback, grounded up-b stronger. In the new version, Link will be able to hookshot out of his aerial up-b.
Nice video's, I enjoy this mod very much but I disagree with the changes done for Ganondorf here. His problem in regular Brawl was that his attacks have an absurd amount of recovery and he has no way to get back on stage anymore since they took out his second jump after using his D-B in the air. I'm sure you thought of these changes while making Balanced Brawl and have your reasons for not implementing them but I'm just saying my 2 cents.
There are no physics or movement changes, so you can freely switch back and forth without relearning anything. Sonic's buffs are intended to compliment his natural rush-down mixup gameplay.
I really like that. Like I prefer tournement rules and brawl+ seemed to be a great thing,,, but the physics just seem really off. Like it has fun speed but it isnt balleneced. If I give this a try will it write over everything on brawl+? I really hate brawl+ hit stun
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay so after I've watched this for like the hundredth time, I wonder... Could you please provide us with a song list for both videos in the description?
idk i dont get why ike is worthy of MKish recovery and link just gets arrows
but i wont complain seeing as i prefer to fight at a disadvantage anyway.. link wouldnt be link if he was "good"
and i dont use the spin attack too often <_< that stupid idea to let it be "chargeable" gives it a split second too much startup lag and thus it always gets blocked <_<
people are the most defensive when you dash at them anyway <_<
if i really focused on it im sure i could hit one with ease <_< but i normally dont try moves that will lead to getting killed if something should go wrong
I'm looking forward to trying out Balanced Brawl, especially with the buffed Ganondorf. He was my main with regular Brawl. I'm surprised that people thought he was a weak character. He could rack up damage quickly and deliver powerful finishers to his opponents.
Fighting Level 9 CPU players was a breeze for me with him. I wish I could say I have more experience against human players, but I have a terrible time trying to compensate for lag on Wi-Fi.
Hey Your opinion is 100% valid my brother is an excellent Ganondorf but online the lag screw him up so bad he almost looked like a noob fighting even though he's a pro with Ganon.
Seriously, Ivysaur and Jigglypuff are finally good(ish) now! <3 Hopefully I can finally vanquish me cheap-***... bla bla bla Snake-maining friend without resorting to Falco for once, lol :P
No on both counts, which is nice, I think, because it doesn't change the core gameplay, yet balances out the characters amazingly well.
I really hope this can become mainstream in the Brawling community... At the very least, it will mean 90% of tournament entrees will no longer be composed entirely Meta spammers.
I was hoping that they would give Link a slightly better recovery (I think charging a spin attack in mid-air like diddy kong would be a good idea, or making it "floaty" for extra distance like toon Link)
either way, as a dedicated Link user I'm gonna have to try this...
im not sure if that's within the capabilities of the creators. also even if it is I imagine people would not be enthusiastic about changing core game play mechanics like increasing recovery distances and such.
i too would like link to have a better recovery, but to change the gravity for link (make him float more) would go against the set limits they have) Link is a lot deadlier with those arrows now, it's worth the bad recovery
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LOLOLMAOROFL. I love the quote "Sandbags add tactical depth. Use him wisely to have the upper hand" BULLSHIT. BBrawl is for fun. it will never replace what the japs made. NEVER. Quick question though about yoshi. Since gnw, dk, and yoshi and the only chars who can moment cancel with a special. Now tht yoshi's egg roll doesnt put him into helpless does this mean he can now egg brake like gnws bucket brake.
I believe you missed the point of BB entirely. Try reading what they are attempting to accomplish.
All they want is for every character to be truly VIABLE in a competitive atmosphere. Quite frankly they have achieved that for the most part. They haven't solved every single problem with the original design, but they have done a fine job on balancing characters and ridding the game of all CG except Ice climbers.
Yes, he can egg-break like gnw's bucket break. But like gnw, it's only doable after momentum canceling, so it's still quite possible for yoshi to be ko'd.
Youre not making sense. For gnw, the bucket is what cancels all momentum. All you have to do 4 gnw is do nair and bucket and you just stop. I main gnw so i can tell you that ill never die from one edge to the other until the 140%s. Unless its like a dk punch, or knee or falcon punch. You know em strong ass moves but regular smashes dont kill until the 140s. My point is, gnw is third lightest and i survive that long. How much will yoshi who is mid weight survive?
Olimar's tether is unchanged; his superior aerial mobility, faster forward air, whistle armor, and horizontal control during up-b makes his otherwise poor recovery acceptable.
Meanwhile, Ivysaur can still be gimped somewhat easily by grabbing the ledge after they have started Vine Whip. You just can't mindlessly hold the edge to get a kill, so it's a less polarizing factor in Ivysaur's matchups.
YESZ! Falcon gets the B-forward no-helpless on hit/major windup decrease he needs.
I say keep on the balancing, though - I think that even if you lower the number (or at least relative values) of tiers to 2, you'll have done enough.
Some stuff seems weird, though - I am by no means a remotely competitive or knowledgeable player, but...Link's arrow seems a bit ridiculous, with its quick release and humongous knockback. And Falcon's sweetspot knee...has it ALWAYS been that powerful? 1:13
Link's Arrow also has a steeper angle to it than Toon Link's. It requires some amount of charge to hit from a distance. Play around with it a little, you'll see.
And no, the Knee hasn't been that powerful. mind you, it's still a little difficult to sweetspot that knee.
I've been playing as him. It's not so hard to sweetspot (least against computers; I can imagine tourney players are a completely different story).
In addition, mid-air Falcon Kick has been turned into a ridiculous 80% finisher, while ground Falcon Kick is sort of the same (perhaps more priority?). I don't know how Falcon is expected to be played competitively but I think Falcon Kick should simply be a high-priority shake-them-off sort of attack, rather than a killing move.
In addition, I found a nasty bug; the game freezes a lot during FInal Smashes (Falcon's finisher froze when the car hit the character, and Zelda's Final Smash also froze when the arrow hit a character).
...I'm enjoying Falcon's new strength doing co-op events with my sister :P
That's one of the three bugs they haven't been able to fix. Captain falcon's final smash, timer items, and switching characters on certain moving levels.
Looks really interesting, although I doubt BB will help Link too much since his biggest, trash-tier-esque flaw, his recovery, still is present.
But maybe he has some heavyweight advantages now, instead of having the worst heavyweight and midweight disadvantages combined into one character as before.
Link has actually received probably more testing than anyone, since *everyone* wants to play him now Link. One tester considered him the best character, but most only think he might be top 10 or top 15. Definitely a really scary force now...
Wow, that sounds pretty promising! Can't wait to try a really good Link for the 1st time in SSB history. Hope you guys are done with the PAL no-HBC codes soon! Awesome project, definitely favor it over B+.
Link's biggest problem wasn't his horrible recovery. It was his piss poor reward on his movepool. If you had good DI, were smart offstage, and not playing against someone with insanely good edgeguarding like MK, G&W, or ROB, it's very feasible to not get gimped.
In vBrawl however, Link's KO power was mediocre except on a few situational moves. That ultimately was a bigger problem which was very well addressed.
So now you don't have to play a high risk - low reward game all the time any more? Awesome!
Although I play most of my matches against Marth who is horribly good at edgeguarding too. Meh, at least Link is now a force to be reckoned with as long as he is on the ground.
The title of the Song during Ganondorf's part is called "Ghost Score Love"
I like BB ^^
Btw: Ganon is far away to be broken. He's still very slow and can always be punished by quick chars like Sheik, Meta Knight etc. But in his groundgame he is in GOD-Mode ;-)
I do like seeing people do what they need to to make brawl into a truely competitive game with at least a semblence of balance, but I do hate how so many people love to smash the other brawl projects just because they dislike the direction its going in. I personally prefer brawl+ to BB but I do love seeing how the whole project came out to the point it's at now, with its own fans and mission. I can only hope that in the future the three different versions can learn to live together equally.
Wow nice video :D I'm liking the way things are going with this. This is definitely better than B+, since it doesn't try to become Melee, but instead retains the same fundamentals of Brawl.
Ganondorf is still one of the worst characters in BBrawl as far as I can tell. He still suffers the same problems of being unsafe on block and easily gimped, and he still doesn't have much he can do to work around those problems.
That being said though, his combo game is amazingly badass.
as much as i like using ganon that's true.. but he honestly doesn't have much to start with. perhap if the tripping animation the character recieve are slightly decreased
Nah, Ganondorf still sucks. Now that Captain Falcon (and other characters) also got attacks that do a million damage, he eclipses Ganondorf and Ganondorf is now left in the dust as the worst character in the game.
I have seen some seriously freaky Ganons in vanilla Brawl. Camping Ganondorf is going to be the only safe option now, because otherwise he's going to rip you apart.
I was one of the folks most against B+ originally, till I truely started going to tournies, and seeing just how insanley MK dominated, 90% of the folks there either mained him, or seconded him, JUST in case they had to face a MK themeselves...after that i was convinced that SOMETHING needed to be done...but I didn't wanna play a ver of brawl that felt so much more like a butchered ver of melee then brawl, nwo however....I see BB, and i'm finnally convinced, I will download this soon as I can.
Yeah.. the music is great. That Nightwish song was the cherry on the top of the cake.. That Barbie Ghostbusters song, I want it! That Vanessa Mae song was sweet... I didn't recognize Pit song but it is nice..
@Rougealienpirate I think you want to reply to OfficerCooper...this is his vid.
randomdude222 1 month ago
@randomdude222 Sorry i got the wrong link
Rougealienpirate 1 month ago
Whats the song playing while showcasing ganondorf? I need it to be my new brawl theme song >=D
masterofdoom5000 2 months ago
Manly tears at Ganon's section.
Sonar009 10 months ago 3
So how much as bBrawl caught on? I'm interested in it, but I'm not going to bother if hardly anyone is using it...
Shmeckie 1 year ago
ALMOST 9000 VIEWS!
supersmash43 1 year ago
For those wondering, the music for Link was Red Hot by Vanessa Mae, and the music for Jigglypuff was Barbie Girl vs Ghostbusters, which can be downloaded from Keaton World. The names of the other pieces of music have already been said in other comments, but in short, they are We’re Not Gonna Take It, Pokémon Theme, and Ghost Love Score by NIghtwish.
roryookane 1 year ago
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roryookane 1 year ago
I have to admit, I was very pleased with bBrawl. I only have one question.
What were all of the songs? A lot of them sound familiar, and I'd like the names to all of them.
DoragonShinzui 1 year ago
Sonic running on Captain Falcon's stage was AWESOME
turtleking9999 1 year ago
what was the music for ganondorf and link
mizzmauricio29 1 year ago
6:36 was the best part. Ganon threw Sonic into the Bulborbs mouth, in which the Bulborb proceeds to swallow him and digest him while at the same time walking away.
supermariofan546 1 year ago
This video was very well put together. Captain Falcon's music choice was absolutely perfect, and Ganon's montage was very well timed ("Wait, what about Ganondo--*Flame Choke*")
Loyal2NES 1 year ago
Ike and Ganondorf's bits were epic.
Izayoiaki24 1 year ago 2
@Izayoiaki24 Gotta continue on the Ganondorf thing, though. I was watching and wondering, "Where's Ganondorf?", since he was my favorite character and the weakest character. Then I recognize something like Ghost Love Score, and then the music gets badass, and then Ganondorf proceeds to kill the universe. The only way it could be better is if, at the final note, he Warlock Punched the Mach Tornado.
Izayoiaki24 1 year ago 3
You guys... are champions. This almost brought tears to my eyes, it was so beautiful.
Megido 1 year ago
You scared me there, leaving ganny to the end like that :o
Excellent finish :)
Blargleflakes 1 year ago
Congratulations for all of your hard work on Balanced Brawl. I enjoy quite a bit more than vBrawl and Brawl+ (especially Brawl+), but then again, maybe that's because I'm a Samus main and she's quite a bit better now! :P
Just to clarify, BB can be used with custom textures / stages/ music etc. etc.?
EvanEtrics 1 year ago 3
Correct.
OfficerCooper 1 year ago 2
@OfficerCooper what is the move charizard does when he flies at 1:39 is that part of the hack? i'm barley getting it right now
carmanino 1 year ago
@carmanino that's his glide attack, he can attack out of his glide. Pit and MK can do that too.
THEasianpianodude 1 year ago
@THEasianpianodude oh not a hack? ok i like hacks have you ever seen the what is mario villains what is love love baba dont hurt me i made a vid about it only cause its pure awsrome
carmanino 1 year ago
@carmanino no it's not a hack. and are those your videos? I'll watch them.
THEasianpianodude 1 year ago
@THEasianpianodude ya one of them is it
carmanino 1 year ago
unless you nerfed Wario he's going to be the best character in the game
popertop 1 year ago
We actually expected Wario to be impacted negatively more than most people suspected... and long-term testing has indicated that he has been impacted more than *we* expected! His reduced KO power really shows in a lot of matchups. We actually very very slightly un-nerfed him for the next release accordingly.
OfficerCooper 1 year ago 2
Captain Falcon is a beast when you can use him well, he's my main :D
SpylarManPwns 1 year ago
Falcon's section was epic. This looks really great.
On a side note, I actually have played on the Wi-Fi Waiting Room stage before in vBrawl, but it was due to some sort of glitch in Wi-Fi and the match froze about 30 seconds in. I wish I had been able to get a replay, but I got disconnected, so it wasn't possible.
RaveEdge 1 year ago
Ganon's section was ****ing epic. Song?
person701 1 year ago
@person701
Ghost Love Score by Nightwish
Pretty much the go-to song for epic music on the internetz.
Toastybiggins 1 year ago
Can Balanced Brawl be played on Brawl+?
Or is it a different version of Brawl. (Ergo I would have to access it differently that Brawl+?)
randomdude222 1 year ago
Balanced Brawl is a complete set of character .pac files. It has nothing to do with Brawl+ or any other projects, though it can be loaded the same way.
OfficerCooper 1 year ago
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@OfficerCooper No offense but I really think you still needed to fix some things. First off is to remove Snake's use of C4 on the air, and Second, remove Meta Knight's infinite Dimensional Cape. I also thought Falco needed some more nerfs such as lowered knockback and faster Reflector rate so it's less reliable to reflect and doesn't flinch. Otherwise,good job.
Rougealienpirate 1 month ago
@randomdude222 No offense but I really think you still needed to fix some things. First off is to remove Snake's use of C4 on the air, and Second, remove Meta Knight's infinite Dimensional Cape. I also thought Falco needed some more nerfs such as lowered knockback and faster Reflector rate so it's less reliable to reflect. Otherwise,good job.
Rougealienpirate 1 month ago
i was so sadface when i thought you guys forgot ganondorf
i shit my pants when i saw him though
TWICE
isaac52 1 year ago
I agree! holy shit I always do those combos now they be alot easier
randomdude222 1 year ago
Falcon was what -I-'d been waiting for indeed. :D
Lioyd1rving 1 year ago
Boomerang does +1%, second swings of f-smash and fair do more knockback, grounded up-b stronger. In the new version, Link will be able to hookshot out of his aerial up-b.
OfficerCooper 1 year ago
Nice video's, I enjoy this mod very much but I disagree with the changes done for Ganondorf here. His problem in regular Brawl was that his attacks have an absurd amount of recovery and he has no way to get back on stage anymore since they took out his second jump after using his D-B in the air. I'm sure you thought of these changes while making Balanced Brawl and have your reasons for not implementing them but I'm just saying my 2 cents.
Cabosed0 1 year ago
Ganondorf makes me want to play Balanced Brawl, let alone Brawl.
KumaOso16 1 year ago 2
when the ganondorf part at the end started, my face lit up so much :D:D:D:D:D:D
umbrellabat 1 year ago 4
dose sonic still have the same speed as he did in brawl+? is combos still possible in this? with out that horrible brawl + hit stun?
KokoroNoSama 1 year ago
There are no physics or movement changes, so you can freely switch back and forth without relearning anything. Sonic's buffs are intended to compliment his natural rush-down mixup gameplay.
OfficerCooper 1 year ago
I really like that. Like I prefer tournement rules and brawl+ seemed to be a great thing,,, but the physics just seem really off. Like it has fun speed but it isnt balleneced. If I give this a try will it write over everything on brawl+? I really hate brawl+ hit stun
KokoroNoSama 1 year ago
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You're lucky I ducked, otherwise I could have died. You still owe me a new monitor, though.
41F 1 year ago 33
Double post >.>
Link can finally make decent use of his bow.
You enjoyed yourself doing this to Ganondorf, didn't you? :D
Blubolouis 1 year ago 2
Falcon... You're back.
Blubolouis 1 year ago 2
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay so after I've watched this for like the hundredth time, I wonder... Could you please provide us with a song list for both videos in the description?
Fawriel 1 year ago
These videos are so lovingly made, too... *delighted sigh*
Fawriel 1 year ago
cried when were not gunna take it started playing
really wish i was joking
Timic83amv 1 year ago
Go Cpt. Falcon!!!!!!!!!!
fxtricky 1 year ago
Get rid of tripping and this thing will be flawless....
XGiftedGamerX 2 years ago
Uh, we've always had random tripping removed.
OfficerCooper 2 years ago
looks like all link got was stronger arrows =|
eh w/e i'll DL it anyway <_< anything's better than normal brawl
well made vid btw 5/5
SoraHyuuga01 2 years ago
His Up-B uncharged kills people at like 90%.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
e.e mmhm ic..
idk i dont get why ike is worthy of MKish recovery and link just gets arrows
but i wont complain seeing as i prefer to fight at a disadvantage anyway.. link wouldnt be link if he was "good"
and i dont use the spin attack too often <_< that stupid idea to let it be "chargeable" gives it a split second too much startup lag and thus it always gets blocked <_<
but at least it isnt high-risk-low-reward e.e
SoraHyuuga01 2 years ago
You can do Link's Up-B out of dash or out of shield. Try that.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
to do it out of shield i need tap jump so no <_<
people are the most defensive when you dash at them anyway <_<
if i really focused on it im sure i could hit one with ease <_< but i normally dont try moves that will lead to getting killed if something should go wrong
SoraHyuuga01 2 years ago
It's harder, but alternatively you can hold up, press jump and B immediately afterwards to Up-B out of shield.
Oh and D-tilt is a KO move, and it's safe on block.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
holy crap, that video was amazingly well presented.
taro4012 2 years ago
GANONDORF.
<3
He seems a little broken now, really.
fireemblemaddict128 2 years ago 7
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Ganondorf is still the worst character in the game.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
I'm looking forward to trying out Balanced Brawl, especially with the buffed Ganondorf. He was my main with regular Brawl. I'm surprised that people thought he was a weak character. He could rack up damage quickly and deliver powerful finishers to his opponents.
Fighting Level 9 CPU players was a breeze for me with him. I wish I could say I have more experience against human players, but I have a terrible time trying to compensate for lag on Wi-Fi.
Those are just my thoughts on the matter.
excaliburthesword5 2 years ago 2
Hey Your opinion is 100% valid my brother is an excellent Ganondorf but online the lag screw him up so bad he almost looked like a noob fighting even though he's a pro with Ganon.
DarkRoast 2 years ago
It's like the sexiest combo video ever...
Kmatt0811 2 years ago
I. Love. You.
Seriously, Ivysaur and Jigglypuff are finally good(ish) now! <3 Hopefully I can finally vanquish me cheap-***... bla bla bla Snake-maining friend without resorting to Falco for once, lol :P
Jinxkatrina8 2 years ago
amazing directing. seriously, very very good.
a couple questions if you wouldn't mind?
1. Are there any changes to move priority in balanced brawl?
2. Are there any changes to hit-stun in balanced brawl?
Thanks in advance.
bask8ballfoo 2 years ago
No changes to hit stun. There may be some priority play, but if there is, it's not too much. Just keeps MK's UpB from being unstoppable.
Blitzmidfielder 2 years ago
No on both counts, which is nice, I think, because it doesn't change the core gameplay, yet balances out the characters amazingly well.
I really hope this can become mainstream in the Brawling community... At the very least, it will mean 90% of tournament entrees will no longer be composed entirely Meta spammers.
ChoPrinn 2 years ago
No, and no.
Although Ganon's Wizkick damage buff is meant to allow it to beat some projectiles for example.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago 3
I wish Link's Up-B would have some of the properties of a reflector.
His Up-B should be able to reflect energy-based projectiles and not physical projectiles like arrows and grenades. Now this would be awesome!!!
TheBrownScourge 2 years ago
some of the songs on this showcase are own.
the barbie girl/ghostbusters mix
we're not going to take it (it's always awesome)
that one song that plays as ganon kicks ass
DQP742 2 years ago 3
That would be Ghost Love Score by Nightwish.
K9GM3 2 years ago
Holy @#$%, what was that Barbie Girl and Ghostbusters mix-up!? I need that!
pyrotek7x7 2 years ago
The ending was FUCKING EPIC!
SturmAH 2 years ago
Watching Ganondorf rape with Ghost Love Score in the background was just too amazing. Everything could use more Nightwish.
Certainly will give BB a try.
285173 2 years ago 35
@285173 I got chills during that part.
Megido 1 year ago
@285173 THE IMMORTAL OVERLORD OF ALL EVIL HAS RETURN!!!
Ganondorf:Hail to the king.
bazakusan0 7 months ago 2
What's the song's name from time 5:17 when Ganon and G&W start fighting
miguelgarciat 2 years ago
Ghost Love Score.
Jerails 2 years ago
Man, Ganondorf's part.... That was mad epic. lol I'd play alot of these "low tiers" in bBrawl.
crimsonblooded 2 years ago 2
I was hoping that they would give Link a slightly better recovery (I think charging a spin attack in mid-air like diddy kong would be a good idea, or making it "floaty" for extra distance like toon Link)
either way, as a dedicated Link user I'm gonna have to try this...
supergeno128ds 2 years ago
im not sure if that's within the capabilities of the creators. also even if it is I imagine people would not be enthusiastic about changing core game play mechanics like increasing recovery distances and such.
bask8ballfoo 2 years ago
i too would like link to have a better recovery, but to change the gravity for link (make him float more) would go against the set limits they have) Link is a lot deadlier with those arrows now, it's worth the bad recovery
moomoomamoo 2 years ago
why not give him ike and ivy's update? (repeated up-b) not really, but that'd make his recovery the best around.
btw, why are yoshi and ganon burying people like DK now?
mrcostlow87 2 years ago
"Balanced" Brawl.
Gigaspine7 1 year ago
aw damn....balanced brawl gave Ganondorf SNK Boss Syndrome lol
stlrider2005 2 years ago 3
Yes the ganondorf I know and love has come back
Devhawk124 2 years ago
What's the name of the song of when Captain Falcon was shown? And the Ganondorf one?
silver253 2 years ago
We're Not Gonna Take It.
Ghost Love Score.
Jerails 2 years ago
Hell yes, Ghost Love Score for Ganondorf.
mythmonster2 2 years ago
THE KING OF EVIL IS BACK!
graniteswirlgirl 2 years ago
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LOLOLMAOROFL. I love the quote "Sandbags add tactical depth. Use him wisely to have the upper hand" BULLSHIT. BBrawl is for fun. it will never replace what the japs made. NEVER. Quick question though about yoshi. Since gnw, dk, and yoshi and the only chars who can moment cancel with a special. Now tht yoshi's egg roll doesnt put him into helpless does this mean he can now egg brake like gnws bucket brake.
fraudster111 2 years ago
I believe you missed the point of BB entirely. Try reading what they are attempting to accomplish.
All they want is for every character to be truly VIABLE in a competitive atmosphere. Quite frankly they have achieved that for the most part. They haven't solved every single problem with the original design, but they have done a fine job on balancing characters and ridding the game of all CG except Ice climbers.
The japanese made it, but these guys IMPROVED it.
Am4t3r4su 2 years ago 8
Yes, he can egg-break like gnw's bucket break. But like gnw, it's only doable after momentum canceling, so it's still quite possible for yoshi to be ko'd.
Hewloo 2 years ago
Youre not making sense. For gnw, the bucket is what cancels all momentum. All you have to do 4 gnw is do nair and bucket and you just stop. I main gnw so i can tell you that ill never die from one edge to the other until the 140%s. Unless its like a dk punch, or knee or falcon punch. You know em strong ass moves but regular smashes dont kill until the 140s. My point is, gnw is third lightest and i survive that long. How much will yoshi who is mid weight survive?
fraudster111 2 years ago
What's the music during Link's part ?
Linkenfant 2 years ago
The best part of this video, aside from Ganon-fest, was 6:43 til the end. That about summed everything up very nicely.
Jerails 2 years ago
That song completely rids Jigglypuff of any manliness at all. Gr...I main her.
Spode42 2 years ago
Nah, there's not much that can reduce the manliness of a pink sphere that throws her all (literally) at everything she does.
Sonar009 2 years ago
Ganondorf = God!!
mastervideogame 2 years ago 3
Superbly compiled.
aika092 2 years ago
What songs were used for Link and Ganondorf?
zknyhs 2 years ago
Ghost Love Score (Nightwish) for Ganon
I dunno about Link...
ZenJestr 2 years ago 2
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zknyhs 2 years ago
I've changed my mind about the knee - it's pretty difficult to land on most competent opponents.
Barcode711 2 years ago
This makes me wanna play Brawl again. o_o
Nice job.
PNaleek 2 years ago 5
Olimar's tether is unchanged; his superior aerial mobility, faster forward air, whistle armor, and horizontal control during up-b makes his otherwise poor recovery acceptable.
Meanwhile, Ivysaur can still be gimped somewhat easily by grabbing the ledge after they have started Vine Whip. You just can't mindlessly hold the edge to get a kill, so it's a less polarizing factor in Ivysaur's matchups.
OfficerCooper 2 years ago
Only thing im not so sure of is multiple tether attempts for ivysaur and olimar. Makes them a shit ton harder to gimp imo.
Toya3816 2 years ago
YES!
YES!
THIS IS DELICIOUS!
lolchillinz 2 years ago 3
YES!
Blitzmidfielder 2 years ago
Ganny's souped up kick reminded me of the psycho crusher.
GoldenJoe 2 years ago 3
from 5:10... I got wet XD, the song was epic ^^ and the part where both ganons were having a clash was my fav
chicomelee 2 years ago
And Ganon gets the epic song.
I Love this video.
Revolutionist2 2 years ago
YESZ! Falcon gets the B-forward no-helpless on hit/major windup decrease he needs.
I say keep on the balancing, though - I think that even if you lower the number (or at least relative values) of tiers to 2, you'll have done enough.
Some stuff seems weird, though - I am by no means a remotely competitive or knowledgeable player, but...Link's arrow seems a bit ridiculous, with its quick release and humongous knockback. And Falcon's sweetspot knee...has it ALWAYS been that powerful? 1:13
Barcode711 2 years ago
Link's Arrow also has a steeper angle to it than Toon Link's. It requires some amount of charge to hit from a distance. Play around with it a little, you'll see.
And no, the Knee hasn't been that powerful. mind you, it's still a little difficult to sweetspot that knee.
Blitzmidfielder 2 years ago
I've been playing as him. It's not so hard to sweetspot (least against computers; I can imagine tourney players are a completely different story).
In addition, mid-air Falcon Kick has been turned into a ridiculous 80% finisher, while ground Falcon Kick is sort of the same (perhaps more priority?). I don't know how Falcon is expected to be played competitively but I think Falcon Kick should simply be a high-priority shake-them-off sort of attack, rather than a killing move.
Barcode711 2 years ago
In addition, I found a nasty bug; the game freezes a lot during FInal Smashes (Falcon's finisher froze when the car hit the character, and Zelda's Final Smash also froze when the arrow hit a character).
...I'm enjoying Falcon's new strength doing co-op events with my sister :P
Barcode711 2 years ago
That's one of the three bugs they haven't been able to fix. Captain falcon's final smash, timer items, and switching characters on certain moving levels.
wadlet 2 years ago
It seems to have overseen that Link STILL CAN'T JUMP.
Sonar009 2 years ago
LMFAO
yoshifannumba1 2 years ago
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The first ivysoaur part how did you double up b O_O
Koowaiii 2 years ago
Because its balanced brawl
TwistHelix 2 years ago 7
Haha loved the end ganon montage.
noobpota2 2 years ago 4
Wait guys, I just realised that at least 30% of enemies in the video are Falco. Everyone's favorite victim?
ScreenEyes 2 years ago
Or just a popular character?
OfficerCooper 2 years ago
falcons knee is stronger and side-b doesent leave u helpless? meh that takes some of the fun out of him
baconstory 2 years ago
Falcon's SideB goes helpless if you miss.
And besides, Falcon in BBrawl has significantly more depth. His stuff generally follows up better due to angle changes.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
Ganon's part gave me the chills, and Im still covered in goosebumps.
TwistHelix 2 years ago
Jigglypuff music was too weird............!
ScreenEyes 2 years ago
Looks really interesting, although I doubt BB will help Link too much since his biggest, trash-tier-esque flaw, his recovery, still is present.
But maybe he has some heavyweight advantages now, instead of having the worst heavyweight and midweight disadvantages combined into one character as before.
And the arrows look sexy.
derschlauepeter 2 years ago
Link has actually received probably more testing than anyone, since *everyone* wants to play him now Link. One tester considered him the best character, but most only think he might be top 10 or top 15. Definitely a really scary force now...
OfficerCooper 2 years ago
Wow, that sounds pretty promising! Can't wait to try a really good Link for the 1st time in SSB history. Hope you guys are done with the PAL no-HBC codes soon! Awesome project, definitely favor it over B+.
derschlauepeter 2 years ago 3
Link's biggest problem wasn't his horrible recovery. It was his piss poor reward on his movepool. If you had good DI, were smart offstage, and not playing against someone with insanely good edgeguarding like MK, G&W, or ROB, it's very feasible to not get gimped.
In vBrawl however, Link's KO power was mediocre except on a few situational moves. That ultimately was a bigger problem which was very well addressed.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
So now you don't have to play a high risk - low reward game all the time any more? Awesome!
Although I play most of my matches against Marth who is horribly good at edgeguarding too. Meh, at least Link is now a force to be reckoned with as long as he is on the ground.
I should get the HBC up and running on my Wii.
derschlauepeter 2 years ago
works w/o homebrew
steve9014 2 years ago
not on PAL consoles yet, unfortunately. I really hope they're working on a PAL non-HBC version!
derschlauepeter 2 years ago
What is the song during Ganondorfs part. I know its Nightwish I just cant remember/find it. D:
Great vid though. I definitely am going to get BB.
Spudzalot 2 years ago
The title of the Song during Ganondorf's part is called "Ghost Score Love"
I like BB ^^
Btw: Ganon is far away to be broken. He's still very slow and can always be punished by quick chars like Sheik, Meta Knight etc. But in his groundgame he is in GOD-Mode ;-)
Yawgmoth87 2 years ago
I do like seeing people do what they need to to make brawl into a truely competitive game with at least a semblence of balance, but I do hate how so many people love to smash the other brawl projects just because they dislike the direction its going in. I personally prefer brawl+ to BB but I do love seeing how the whole project came out to the point it's at now, with its own fans and mission. I can only hope that in the future the three different versions can learn to live together equally.
oshman77 2 years ago 3
Wow nice video :D I'm liking the way things are going with this. This is definitely better than B+, since it doesn't try to become Melee, but instead retains the same fundamentals of Brawl.
Keep up the good work! :D
And thanks for uploading!
Yoshi17th 2 years ago
isn´t ganon totally broken in this brawl version?
SSBBplayerSEID 2 years ago
Ganondorf is still one of the worst characters in BBrawl as far as I can tell. He still suffers the same problems of being unsafe on block and easily gimped, and he still doesn't have much he can do to work around those problems.
That being said though, his combo game is amazingly badass.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago 2
I wanna rape tourneys with Falcon! He is my old main :) Oh wow I will have to try Aerial sideB tech-chasing O_O
Scipion121212 2 years ago
Normally I'd be saying "Wow 0:20 is epic" if it wasn't overshadowed by Ganondorf's greater epicness
xxMTOxx 2 years ago
Nice, lets eliminate Falco, DDD, Climbers CGs, and put a CG on Ganondorf =]
KiLLeRoiKiLLeR 2 years ago
Ganondorf didn't just get buffed.
He got a buffet.
SurgingChaos19 2 years ago 9
the ganondorf downtilt trip looks a bit too much of a buff for him
SuPeRbOoMfAn 2 years ago
as much as i like using ganon that's true.. but he honestly doesn't have much to start with. perhap if the tripping animation the character recieve are slightly decreased
DeStryke51 2 years ago
Nah, Ganondorf still sucks. Now that Captain Falcon (and other characters) also got attacks that do a million damage, he eclipses Ganondorf and Ganondorf is now left in the dust as the worst character in the game.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
since when do z2ds make you bad? lol
SuPeRbOoMfAn 2 years ago
You can still camp Ganondorf to death. That's the bottom line, and that hasn't really changed.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago
and ganondorf can kill you
SuPeRbOoMfAn 2 years ago
I have seen some seriously freaky Ganons in vanilla Brawl. Camping Ganondorf is going to be the only safe option now, because otherwise he's going to rip you apart.
Blitzmidfielder 2 years ago
If Ganon sucks or sucks not... it doesn't matter ^^
It seems to be even more fun to play with him. And... There exist new Follow Ups and mindgame-action, thanks to dtilt. I'll try to make a list.
Yawgmoth87 2 years ago
I was one of the folks most against B+ originally, till I truely started going to tournies, and seeing just how insanley MK dominated, 90% of the folks there either mained him, or seconded him, JUST in case they had to face a MK themeselves...after that i was convinced that SOMETHING needed to be done...but I didn't wanna play a ver of brawl that felt so much more like a butchered ver of melee then brawl, nwo however....I see BB, and i'm finnally convinced, I will download this soon as I can.
Link500ACS 2 years ago 7
holy fuck lmao. Ganondorf.
AND LMFAOLROF Ike at the ending made me die laughing.
TehFair 2 years ago
Yeah.. the music is great. That Nightwish song was the cherry on the top of the cake.. That Barbie Ghostbusters song, I want it! That Vanessa Mae song was sweet... I didn't recognize Pit song but it is nice..
MorpheusVGX 2 years ago
Captain Falcon is the greatest character ever...IN AMERICA!!!
Link looks great (I WANNA PLAY HIM!), Jiggz looks very fun, & as for Ganon...well...
...I think I need a new pair of pants... >_>
faceurhell 2 years ago 3
Holy crap, wait a minute, B-throw now actually KOs before 180%?
A2ZOMG 2 years ago 7
I mean Ganon's B-throw.
A2ZOMG 2 years ago 5
Wanna know about that "Barbie Ghost" song. :o
Anyhoo nice vids! Great Ganondorf presentation. He deserves it...because he is the best. o_o
Don't lie to yourselves, he is.
Galiaverse 2 years ago 3
whats the name of that song after the link vids end, and also whats the name of that pokemon song
princemarth150 2 years ago 2
what is the name of that pokemon song. i wunna download it so i cud put it on the pokemon stage in brawl
princemarth150 2 years ago 2
excellent opening and excellent ending sequences. makes me wish the final release was out.
Leone72899 2 years ago 5
Terrific editing and music selection! Some Nightwish thrown in there was awesome. Oh and Balanced Brawl looks cool too.
almightyoneandahalf 2 years ago 3
This video gave me chills.
too good :D
KaddieX 2 years ago 7
WOW THE BEST SEQUEL TO A VIDEO EVER XD.
Best part was the pokemon one
CommanderBeef101 2 years ago 3
To catch them is my real test~ *paused right before that*
You did a great job with this.
Luminoit 2 years ago 3
I agree with the comments below.
RayKalmNiam 2 years ago 2
The ganondorf section was amazingly epic.
MyOwnCliche 2 years ago 12
That's exactly what I said. Especially the bass/drum beat section.
AzureAiluren 2 years ago 2
agreed
MysticKenji2 2 years ago 2