It's really such a shame that a creator with the level of talent that David Milch has cannot gain the level of appreciation that he so richly deserves. He truly is at the head of his contemporaries. I await any project of his with great anticipation.
Does anyone know who the 'mutual acquaintance' between Milch and Ferguson is? Meaning who is he referring to that said 'there is a slow unfolding' taking place right now?
I totally agree, blueskies. John From Cincinatti always left me with a feeling of hope and artistic freedom. I'm saddened by TV viewers inability to be patient and thoughtful sometimes. And HBO needs to give Milch another season.
But instead, Entourage (a show about media capitalism, corruption, and excess) stays on succesfully. Nothing against it, I just think we need something different as well.
I still rewatch each of the episodes on Demand and feel calm and fullfilled after watching it. I don't know Butchie instead but I do know John should work here...
The fact is, it costs money to make shows. Bottom line.
Entourage attracts a lot of viewers. You have to understand, the average viewer is not someone who would contemplate the metaphysical. They are people who like to see simple plots. John From Cincinnati was probably the most creative writing I've ever seen put on screen. I knew it would not last long because it simply wouldn't attract the bulk of audience Time Warner deems necessary.
And before people "neg me", I loved John from Cincinnati and wish it was renewed for a 2nd season. My point is, don't be surprised when good shows are cancelled. Thought-provoking shows tend to attract less of an audience because the average HBO subscriber is simpleminded. That's why the Sopranos went on for 8 seasons, and near the end it was just so boring it was painful. Tony's day-to-day life, him waking up, going to the Bing, etc.. yawn.
hbo just cancelled JFC. Dammit. Finally and adult show that made you think. Personally I think the entire thing was about higher consciousness and healing...we need that now more than ever.
Iodiots all of you who dont see the greatness in John from Cincinnati. It is diffrent from any show out there and all of you are just pissed off about deadwood that you wont give JFC a chance. I support JFC!!! There's somethings I know, somethings I dont.
Was thrilled when I saw the rerun of this recently......Milch is a sweet and sensitive man who has struggled himself and has great empathy......my only problem with JFC is that he forgets that addiction can be pretty boring to the rest of us who put up with it, too......Butchie wasting his talent as a surfer is a big yawn....a one-note samba. Surfing is a closed system---no air gets in.
I don't know if it's about being "intellectual" so much as not wanting to invest the time & effort into decoding it--especially if you can't get into the characters or setting or you think the mythology is BS. I, personally, can't stop watching it, although I'm reserving judgement on whether or not I think it's worthwhile.
This is far and away the best show on teevee right now. Sadly, our unreflective and anti-intellectual nation of viewers will kill it ... and that's a goddamned shame.
I agree. JFC is a somewhat Lynchian endeavor. It takes time, patience, and close attention to detail to enjoy it. I like to think about an episode and watch it again. It's really getting more climatic as the show moves on. I think the payoff will be rewarding. And it's certainly stimulating.
I hope close-minded people who don't like to think while they watch television don't destroy this show.
For those of you down on John From Cinci....go back and start at the beginning...the show is heavy...well acted...well written...best thing on TV!!!!!
David Milch is a genius. True, JFC is a dud, but you know what...how many producers do YOU know in television who still take as many risks creatively and professionally as Milch? IMO he's the best writer on television today (besides David Simon) and anything he does will still have value in it, even if it is a convoluted, uninvolving mess like JFC. Here's keeping fingers crossed for Deadwood movies...
John From Cincinnati is a fantastic show, and while Deadwood being gone is sad, you really shouldn't denounce the new show just because you're bitter. It's a really great show with some promising themes and very interesting characters.
I don't care about the politics of show business. I want to be entertained. John From Cincinnati is a great show from where I'm sitting with lots of potential to become one of the best. Shows come and go ala Deadwood for whatever reasons, but the fact is is that I was entertained with Deadwood and have been so far with JFC. That's all I ask.
HBO wanted a Milch series to become their premiere show once The Sopranos ended. Too bad they ALREADY HAD ONE! It took Sopranos a few seasons to become what it became. Deadwood was on the same track. BAD BAD MOVE HBO.
Do you know the background of Deadwood? It would only have like 1 more season in it since in real times, Deadwood burned to the ground. However, HBO did release all the actors from their contracts making it near impossible for them all to be put on the same page again, but don't think that Deadwood could have gone on for 8 seasons. It was nearing the end regardless of what HBO did.
hbo will get support from clueless yuppies, that's a given so they'll never go out of business. the best thing you can do is not watch hbo, lemme tell you about this thing called torrents.....
this approach will free the creative people from the channel, hbo, to not feel pressure from the most energetic of their watchers. deadwood will probably just get released in theatres one day to wrap it all up, cause everyone, even the thickest exec knows it has to be wrapped up.
David Milch has a deal with the fans. John from Cincinnati is a "San Francisco Cock Sucker". Don't watch this show as Milch will just stop production and leave you hanging.
John From Cincinnati is the show that caused Deadwood to be cancelled before its time. HBO was supposed to create two 2 hour special episodes to wrap up Deadwood story lines since they couldn't afford to produce it for its final 4th season - but no word yet. After HBO's failure to support Carnivale to its conclusion, it's hard to continue to respect them as they once deserved.
NEW DEADWOOD CHANNEL
deadwoodeye 1 year ago
milch should have his own tv show, consisting of just him talking about stuff,
SimAlex20000 1 year ago 2
It's really such a shame that a creator with the level of talent that David Milch has cannot gain the level of appreciation that he so richly deserves. He truly is at the head of his contemporaries. I await any project of his with great anticipation.
mxylplykt 1 year ago
Give us those DEADWOOD movies, you existentialist sum-bitch!
EuchridEucrow1 2 years ago 5
@EuchridEucrow1 shut up you ungrateful sum-bitch.
stob000 1 year ago
Does anyone know who the 'mutual acquaintance' between Milch and Ferguson is? Meaning who is he referring to that said 'there is a slow unfolding' taking place right now?
aslinged 3 years ago
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eternallybeatdown 4 years ago
I totally agree, blueskies. John From Cincinatti always left me with a feeling of hope and artistic freedom. I'm saddened by TV viewers inability to be patient and thoughtful sometimes. And HBO needs to give Milch another season.
But instead, Entourage (a show about media capitalism, corruption, and excess) stays on succesfully. Nothing against it, I just think we need something different as well.
3goodtimes 4 years ago
I still rewatch each of the episodes on Demand and feel calm and fullfilled after watching it. I don't know Butchie instead but I do know John should work here...
SamiFox1 4 years ago
really man. i've got the season on my DVR and mid-summers I always watch it through. Great.
niktp 2 years ago
The fact is, it costs money to make shows. Bottom line.
Entourage attracts a lot of viewers. You have to understand, the average viewer is not someone who would contemplate the metaphysical. They are people who like to see simple plots. John From Cincinnati was probably the most creative writing I've ever seen put on screen. I knew it would not last long because it simply wouldn't attract the bulk of audience Time Warner deems necessary.
piratebri 4 years ago
And before people "neg me", I loved John from Cincinnati and wish it was renewed for a 2nd season. My point is, don't be surprised when good shows are cancelled. Thought-provoking shows tend to attract less of an audience because the average HBO subscriber is simpleminded. That's why the Sopranos went on for 8 seasons, and near the end it was just so boring it was painful. Tony's day-to-day life, him waking up, going to the Bing, etc.. yawn.
piratebri 4 years ago
hbo just cancelled JFC. Dammit. Finally and adult show that made you think. Personally I think the entire thing was about higher consciousness and healing...we need that now more than ever.
blueskies66 4 years ago
Some things I know... John From Cincinnati was a masterpiece.
penxv 4 years ago
I love this show and Milch is brilliant--compelling story, depth of characters, the way it's shot--it is worth multiple viewings from the start.
lisafbruce 4 years ago
Iodiots all of you who dont see the greatness in John from Cincinnati. It is diffrent from any show out there and all of you are just pissed off about deadwood that you wont give JFC a chance. I support JFC!!! There's somethings I know, somethings I dont.
pest22o 4 years ago
Was thrilled when I saw the rerun of this recently......Milch is a sweet and sensitive man who has struggled himself and has great empathy......my only problem with JFC is that he forgets that addiction can be pretty boring to the rest of us who put up with it, too......Butchie wasting his talent as a surfer is a big yawn....a one-note samba. Surfing is a closed system---no air gets in.
bristow615 4 years ago
I don't know if it's about being "intellectual" so much as not wanting to invest the time & effort into decoding it--especially if you can't get into the characters or setting or you think the mythology is BS. I, personally, can't stop watching it, although I'm reserving judgement on whether or not I think it's worthwhile.
Maggie028 4 years ago
This is far and away the best show on teevee right now. Sadly, our unreflective and anti-intellectual nation of viewers will kill it ... and that's a goddamned shame.
mac774 4 years ago
i totally agree with you
bessgee 4 years ago
totally agree with you....
UniversalBrother108 4 years ago
I agree. JFC is a somewhat Lynchian endeavor. It takes time, patience, and close attention to detail to enjoy it. I like to think about an episode and watch it again. It's really getting more climatic as the show moves on. I think the payoff will be rewarding. And it's certainly stimulating.
I hope close-minded people who don't like to think while they watch television don't destroy this show.
3goodtimes 4 years ago
Anyone saying JFC is a dud hasn't really watched it.
lspringerjones 4 years ago
For those of you down on John From Cinci....go back and start at the beginning...the show is heavy...well acted...well written...best thing on TV!!!!!
dilt31 4 years ago
David Milch is a genius. True, JFC is a dud, but you know what...how many producers do YOU know in television who still take as many risks creatively and professionally as Milch? IMO he's the best writer on television today (besides David Simon) and anything he does will still have value in it, even if it is a convoluted, uninvolving mess like JFC. Here's keeping fingers crossed for Deadwood movies...
rawkus1167 4 years ago
Yeah, I am not one to invest any time in JFC. It bored me to death . JohnFrom Cincinn. can wither away. HBO should know better...
nearparody 4 years ago
John From Cincinnati is a fantastic show, and while Deadwood being gone is sad, you really shouldn't denounce the new show just because you're bitter. It's a really great show with some promising themes and very interesting characters.
DensestChris 4 years ago
I hold out no hope for the Deadwood movies. I say we take Albrecht hostage.
josiahscurlock 4 years ago
I don't care about the politics of show business. I want to be entertained. John From Cincinnati is a great show from where I'm sitting with lots of potential to become one of the best. Shows come and go ala Deadwood for whatever reasons, but the fact is is that I was entertained with Deadwood and have been so far with JFC. That's all I ask.
gbuzz71 4 years ago
HBO will never get another dime from me. Bastards! @#$% you John From Cincinnati!
captvanhalen 4 years ago
HBO wanted a Milch series to become their premiere show once The Sopranos ended. Too bad they ALREADY HAD ONE! It took Sopranos a few seasons to become what it became. Deadwood was on the same track. BAD BAD MOVE HBO.
DEPORTALLILLEGALS 4 years ago
Do you know the background of Deadwood? It would only have like 1 more season in it since in real times, Deadwood burned to the ground. However, HBO did release all the actors from their contracts making it near impossible for them all to be put on the same page again, but don't think that Deadwood could have gone on for 8 seasons. It was nearing the end regardless of what HBO did.
piratebri 4 years ago
Don't forget to visit savedeadwood dot net to see what you can do about it.
Chuck2006x 4 years ago
hbo will get support from clueless yuppies, that's a given so they'll never go out of business. the best thing you can do is not watch hbo, lemme tell you about this thing called torrents.....
WOMP2007 4 years ago
this approach will free the creative people from the channel, hbo, to not feel pressure from the most energetic of their watchers. deadwood will probably just get released in theatres one day to wrap it all up, cause everyone, even the thickest exec knows it has to be wrapped up.
WOMP2007 4 years ago
David Milch has a deal with the fans. John from Cincinnati is a "San Francisco Cock Sucker". Don't watch this show as Milch will just stop production and leave you hanging.
sukonachi 4 years ago
Deadwood was easily one of the best programs on television. I sure hope HBO reconsiders ala CBS with Jericho.
everythingQ 4 years ago
It isnt up to HBO, the dude in the inteview "david Milch" wants to do this now, he is the driving force behind both and he doesnt have the time.
trust me, i know people
epilepticgodzilla 4 years ago
Yeah, I can't devote that many hours to shows that just get cancelled with no warning. Sorry HBO, you don't get my money any more.
antiear 4 years ago
John From Cincinnati is the show that caused Deadwood to be cancelled before its time. HBO was supposed to create two 2 hour special episodes to wrap up Deadwood story lines since they couldn't afford to produce it for its final 4th season - but no word yet. After HBO's failure to support Carnivale to its conclusion, it's hard to continue to respect them as they once deserved.
leeherron 4 years ago