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  • Hey Mike thanks for the comment. You disagreeing does not change the facts: if you cannot run away, you need to control the weapon hand. The option is to allow that free hand to move, which is very dangerous. The issue is how you tie up, and how much damage is done from the penetrating continuous knee strikes. We will film a view full speed variations with the no lie blade and then we can assess any damage. Thanks again for that post!

  • I disagree, if the guy has a knife the last thing I want to do is get entangled with him and hope he drops it. The other disarm methods seem better to me (not the alternate one you demonstrated).

  • good stuff. Hybrid Combatives - Frontline Krav Maga in ALbuquerque NM.

  • thank to you for this tips

  • Damn straight, hit them until they are no longer a threat. I do Krav in Kansas City and we use the same techniques

  • Once you manage to trap the opponents arm like this you can easily apply both your arms on his weapon arm and break it in the elbow surely making him drop the knife, moreover you dont lose your balance when kicking......

  • @ramusling good comment. Your options definitely open up when the arm id trapped!

  • @ramusling i am not trained in any way, but that's what i was thinking, too. hell, if the attacker is gonna go for the lethal option, i wouldn't have too many reservations about breaking a bone or two.

  • but what if im the one with the knife? how do i stop him from blocking it?

  • @AcBh2011 The best attack with a knife to prevent blocking would either utilize the element of surprise or be lead with some type of feinting movement, example a fake stab then slightly withdrawn to draw the blocking arm and then attacking again while the position of defense is disrupted.

  • i have seen the krav defense against a straight knife attack and they assume you can see it first, which if you do manage to see it, its probably the best knife defense in my opinion, however what if you dont see it ? and you dont have time to move out the way or even block it, its a problem that must be addressed i think, because not all the time people see the knife in time, my defense would be a shield to protect my vitals put both arms infront of your chest like a wall

  • @Brady2k10 You are very smart...and correct. All we can do is plan to defend what we can see, and be alert to hand positioning and body language, as well as distancing. It is of course obvious that you cannot defend what you cannot see, however, you can prepare and train to react to an attack. Thanks for the comments, and we will be posting a few other videos that will help you understand this more. :)

  • @TheFitnessonetrainer awesome, look forward to the vids

  • i dont understand why nearly every single knife defense video i see, no matter what martial art it is, they always assume the attacker will come at them with a knife so that they can see it in time to block it, this isnt true, i mean think about it, if you was going to kill someone and you had a knife, would you walk up to them and give them a chance to see it? i know i wouldnt. They all assume you're going to see the knife before the strike, the majority of the time its unseen im afraid

  • @Brady2k10 Dude a sneak attack means your screwed anyways. AT least if you can see the attack coming, this is a valid defense.

  • Nice addition to the web guys! This shows a realistic response that a defender can execute under stress. This is an outstanding starting lesson for defending against the most dangerous of hand-held weapons. Thanks a million.

  • @bfullcolo Thank you so much for your kind words! We will keep training and searching for the best techniques we can find!

  • @vleon1012 then use either a palm strike or hammerfist. Both are much safer and still produce a great amount of power, just lacking the penetrating force of the two knuckles. Build up your knuckles if you want, but in the meantime those two will get the job done with no problems

  • @EbonZEN Agreed! We much prefer the palm or hammer fist! thank you so much for your post EbonZEN!

  • I didn't teach Krav Maga but I did teach knife fighting and this makes total sense. I always roll my eyes when people show me some knife defense they learned on the internet and it somehow involves moving a stab into a wrist lock. Right. Good luck with that.

    The good thing about the technique in this video is that it's an effective block. If you don't get control of the elbow and he pulls back after the block to come in again, you're not in some open position from a failed wrist lock attempt.

  • @razordu30 Thank you Razordu30. We do our best, and it means alot coming from one who teaches the offensive side. I appreciate the feedback very much.

  • great video and very well explained !! really really great!

    knife defense as is shown by many instructors is just bullshit and it wont work in reality. One question though: at the end when you have him it this kind of "musha dori" you could kind of easily break his elbow first - why dont you do this?

  • what ever works.. trry escape if possible but with this move size and strengh matters also. if the attacker is stronger or larger than you grappling isnt the best first option I think. I dont know for sure do you have any footage of this move with a larger attacker using this defense? I respect KM very much thanks for the post

  • @cassanovamocho One of the first things you learn in most self defense classes is that when escaping you are always at a disadvantage. The first method should be appeasement, aka, giving up your wallet etc.

    When chasing someone, you always have the advantage of taking the shortest path. If I'm running and I turn 40 degrees to the left, the chaser only needs to turn 10 degrees to the left to make the straightest line at me. This adds up quickly. This is why fat cops catch fast criminals.

  • @cyberslick18 "appeasement" can also get you killed.

  • I have to disagree with blue eyes! I practice Krav as well and I must say this is one of my favorite knife defenses. We practice it full speed with body pads and I can honestly say that know one has ever beat the defense. The other things is...the key to this is that the arm block when done correctly delivers a numbing, painful, paralyzing feeling to the arm of the attack and significantly aids in the disarming of the attacker. BTW, Good response @ Fitnesssone!

  • what if he has 2 knives lol

  • @chikeedoo 2 knives ? in the same hand ?? LOL  well you should be out of range of the other hand that is first ;-)

  • Nice vid! the expression on the other guy kinda made me mad lolol

  • i practice many of kravs techniques but on this one after you use your arm to deflect you say just step in and lock the arm, if you tried this technique and asked the attacker to behave like they would in a real fight when you deflect the attack they will immediatly retract their hand, and they will be able to do so faster than you could move your whole body towards him and lock his arm.

  • @blue0eyes0knight Thanks for you comment, but I will respectfully disagree....When you add his forward momentum to the equation, his retraction of the knife is dramatically slowed down. We do however practice it that way (real life behavior)in the high gear suit against a no lie blade, with momentum, with success. The truth be known, there really are no good knife defenses. We are all searching for the most effective thing we can find!

    Thanks again for your comment!

  • @TheFitnessonetrainer it is as you said "they are no good knife defenses." That is very true. If someone is skilled with the blade you better be ready, agile and able too deploy a firearm.

  • @blue0eyes0knight i don't agree i took various martial arts and this one is the easiest and natural way to do a defense... and i actually go hard with these type of moves....this moves is effective because when i went against a female same level as I she got my arm and kneed me in the nuts...By mistake i'm sure off the adrenaline rush casue i was going so fast trying to stab her but needless to say i dropped it...lol...i can lol about it know back then i wasn't

  • very good technique, i studied krav maga in the navy, i know a kind of variation of this technique, it is about blocking and punching at the same time, it is just to punch and run, does not try to neutralize your enemy, but is a faster technique, i could ot says which one is better, i have to use it in my trainings and twice in real live, it always worked

  • That definately makes more sense than trying to catch the arm. But I would still think it would be difficult to wrap the guys arm if he is going for multiple stabs. How often do you see fighters block a jab and wrap the arm? almost never i would say. So, i'm not sure how it works in practise to be honest.

  • Hey man thanks for the comment...We will go ahead and post some real time footage of a few other disarms, and show what happens when the attacker uses multiple stabs...Were very fond of this type of training (multiple stabs) because it's more realistic. You will find is that by wrapping the arm u r not preventing getting cut-you R minimizing the damage u are going to receive to a survivable level. We prefer to "get out of dodge" but when not an option, we need control. Thanks for your input.

  • very good, but there are many different knife scenarios like downward stabs (which is really easy) knife on the throat, slashing etc. ide like to see those too.

  • GuardianAngel, you are preaching to the choir. We did this in our class for a couple of hours, first avoidance, the body movement then we incorporated the same defense. I had my attackers use a 6 point Z pattern as the attack.

  • Amazing video, You break it down so easy and effective. If only the instructors in Australia were like this when I trained!!

  • very good explanation, thanks sir!

  • You are very welcome! Thank you for the comment!

  • nice and easy

    

  • Thank you, I appreciate your input on our video!

  • As a level 3 Certified KRav Instructor? Well done sir! Broke down the elements of redirection of the weapon and yourself, counter-attack and disarm only if possible.

    This is real. You don't try to disarm first. You need to redirect the weapon, the deliver counter-attacks which NOBODY teaches for some reason.

    As I was taught "Don't fight the weapon, fight the person holding the weapon and make sure that weapon doesent harm you, but you harm the person holding it!"

  • I agree with you Guardian! Thanks for making the comments!

  • very nice !

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