@dasmonkeyman you can only get the p226 in a full sized pistol. the p229 is basically a p226 compact.shorter barrel and grip. and for those new to firearms as many have said before. a new firearm should be fully field stripped( including the magazine), cleaned, lubricated, and function checked before ever loading rounds into it. also on most guns stay away from fmj or aluminum cased rounds for about 250 rounds. the feed ramp gets nice and polished from the ball ammo and prevents ftl
Just bought a Sig p220 elite stainless that did the same thing twice within the first 200 rounds. From the research I've done I concluded it's due to the "break in period". I also have a glock that malfunctioned on me plenty of times so I'm not worried about it. Just gotta work out the kinks. Im also really skeptical of the people who say they've NEVER had a malfunction with either a glock or a sig. All guns will have a hiccup at some point.
Yeah when you buy a pistol,it has to be cleaned,and lubricated,I did the exact same thing,had only one jam but that was bad enough .I clean mine each and every time I fire it.
just wondering bc i have the same gun. did u ever work out the kinks or break in period. Did you have to send it back? things like that. sorry you got a bad representation of the sig. really is a good gun. mine hasn't jammed since i got it. don't mean to rub it in. also what color tag was on it when you bought it. blue means new, red means used or rebuild something like that. if it was red then thats your first indicator.
@Bumling Yes, after this session I haven't had ANY problems with the gun. I took all the advice and changed my grip. I also had not cleaned the weapon correctly before firing it, I had only lubricated it. I've put thousands of rounds through it without a single hiccup.
any malfunction of any kind is unaceptable in a weapon with that price tag and from a company with that reputation i dont care if he was limp wristing my 21 yar old well abused multiple owner ruger p85 has never malfunctioned in any way single hand shooting with my weak hand no jam no failure ever and ive put well over a thousand round through it since i got it
Having shot both Glocks and SIGs, I think both weapons are excellent, combat effective, but I have noticed the SIG may have a slight gain over the Glock because of the heavier slide. It makes for quicker follow up shots and less muzzle rise.
As for the Glock comments here. Personally, I loathe Glocks altogether! Too lightweight, too plain, not really impressive. But all of that aside, the Glock is a good gun overall! I see them as being more for smaller shooters since they are lighter than say, SIG's or other full metal guns. Polymer pistols have come a long way and I own a few in smaller calibers myself. They are cheaper which is great if you can't afford better but even then I'd rather go with Ruger, a good tough, metal gun.
@changapoblana Yes, the Glock is popular with LE, I know, trust me. *LOL* But the same exact thing can be said for SIG. While some LEO's carry Glock, more Federal agencies carry SIG. It's a tit for tat thing. *LOL*
@mercapp Well I won't get into a pissing match about which sidearm is better. *LOL* But I do have to say if you look at the stats and who carries what out there in the professional sector, you'll find that Sig Sauer is by far the preferred sidearm by the professionals in the U.S. and abroad. As I stated below, ammo can be the cause of issues such as those in the video.
Before last night I would've been confused by this but after researching for a friend, it generally comes back to a few small, non-sidearm related issues, amazingly! Ammo, stance, and the way the sidearms held. Odd as it might seem, any or all of these can cause these issues. Usually though ammo is a good starting point, sub-sonic controlled expansion rounds have a very bad habit of doing just like that. John's stance was good for this gun, tight, locked, forward. Melissa's was weaker.
It is not the weapon malfunctioning, it's the user. looking at the vid your grip was way to laxed and the girl was teacupping it which is why its' jamming and getting a glock .40 will not fix the problem....why are some gunowners so uneducated on the fundementals.
You're right, in this case I was less educated on pistol shooting. The gun now operates perfectly, as both operators have studied better gripping techniques. Not a single malfunction in the 1000+ we've shot since this video. I highly recommend this model to anyone looking for a larger frame 9mm.
I was about to say, I own 3 sig sauers and all three have never jammed. My p229 9mm I've shot 550 rounds and no malfunctions of any kind. My p229 sct .40 I've shot 150 rounds out of it and no jams as of yet, got it last week. looking forward to carrying the .40 more often now seeing it holds 15 rounds of .40 and my 9mm holds only 1 more with one in the chamber, but I love my p229 9mm, wouldn't sell that thing if I was on my last piece of bread :)
is it me or does the slide not lock on the last round fired? noticed after the guy shoots till empty then attempts fire on an empty chamber without the slide locked open and the hammer just drops. no fire.
You're right, on those first five rounds it didn't lock open. That was one of the issues it was having. However, after cleaning it very throughly after that shooting (it still had some of the shipping grease in it) and changing my stance and grip, the gun hasn't had as much as a hiccup with over 1000 more rounds through it. It's as accurate as I can get my shaky hands to be.
my sig p229 hasn't had any malfunctions. It was probably an operator error as he states now hes shot 1000 more rounds since than and has had no malfunctions
sometimes depends on the "ammo" sometimes how firm you hold the gun, my brother hold my Sig like a pussy and sometimes it has feeding problems... with me it works just fine!
just purchased a 229 - 9mm also. The storage grease used is nasty stuff. I shot 5, then cleaned it and lubed it using a thinner oil. Haven't had a single problem - only dumped about 1000 rounds so far tho.
When it stove pipes with one person but not so much another its limpwristing. Also oil the parts of the slide that rub. It will ease the friction some.
Did you clean the gun and oil it before taking it to the range??? The stock white grease that Sig put on brand new guns are very nasty and thick, you might want to clean them off and then reoil it with a thiner gun oil instead. The magazines also very nasty from the factory soaked in oil as well. Take it apart and rinse the springs down with WD-40, let it soak, clean the insided of the magazines and dry the springs put oil on them and reinstall. This should fix the problems.
exactly! You should always fully clean any new weapon thoroughly, especially pistols. The packing grease to is just to prevent rust during warehouse storage and transportation, not firing. I highly recommend Otis CLP, it strips the nasty grease off, lubricates and protects in one shot. You have to treat a new weapon like a baby. It comes out all nasty..you just have to clean it up a little lol
im not very knowledgeable about guns but isnt the sig p226 a 9mm? so why have a p229 in 9mm arent they then the same gun?
thanks for any answers :)
dasmonkeyman 9 months ago
@dasmonkeyman you can only get the p226 in a full sized pistol. the p229 is basically a p226 compact.shorter barrel and grip. and for those new to firearms as many have said before. a new firearm should be fully field stripped( including the magazine), cleaned, lubricated, and function checked before ever loading rounds into it. also on most guns stay away from fmj or aluminum cased rounds for about 250 rounds. the feed ramp gets nice and polished from the ball ammo and prevents ftl
increasedpotential 9 months ago
Just bought a Sig p220 elite stainless that did the same thing twice within the first 200 rounds. From the research I've done I concluded it's due to the "break in period". I also have a glock that malfunctioned on me plenty of times so I'm not worried about it. Just gotta work out the kinks. Im also really skeptical of the people who say they've NEVER had a malfunction with either a glock or a sig. All guns will have a hiccup at some point.
TheJosh9150 1 year ago
Yeah when you buy a pistol,it has to be cleaned,and lubricated,I did the exact same thing,had only one jam but that was bad enough .I clean mine each and every time I fire it.
TBLACK9IN 1 year ago
just wondering bc i have the same gun. did u ever work out the kinks or break in period. Did you have to send it back? things like that. sorry you got a bad representation of the sig. really is a good gun. mine hasn't jammed since i got it. don't mean to rub it in. also what color tag was on it when you bought it. blue means new, red means used or rebuild something like that. if it was red then thats your first indicator.
Bumling 1 year ago
@Bumling Yes, after this session I haven't had ANY problems with the gun. I took all the advice and changed my grip. I also had not cleaned the weapon correctly before firing it, I had only lubricated it. I've put thousands of rounds through it without a single hiccup.
soonersx2 1 year ago
and what if that was the round that would have saved your life. You can hate on me but just what if
dstrong1337 1 year ago
any malfunction of any kind is unaceptable in a weapon with that price tag and from a company with that reputation i dont care if he was limp wristing my 21 yar old well abused multiple owner ruger p85 has never malfunctioned in any way single hand shooting with my weak hand no jam no failure ever and ive put well over a thousand round through it since i got it
frodo70444 1 year ago
I'm going to jump on the NO TEACUPPING bandwagon! (I'm sure there have been 1000 post on here now saying that) But really teacupping is bad :)
UrbanKnight12 1 year ago
limp wristing.
ABorell12 1 year ago
limpwrist
destinywu 1 year ago
this happens with sigs they have a break in period of about a hundred rounds
sigp22983 1 year ago
Don't forget to lube the rails after you buy it before you shoot it!
montanadds 1 year ago
Don't cover the ejection port when working free a jam.
Organichu 1 year ago
@Organichu That seems like very wise advise. I'll keep that in mind.
soonersx2 1 year ago
Having shot both Glocks and SIGs, I think both weapons are excellent, combat effective, but I have noticed the SIG may have a slight gain over the Glock because of the heavier slide. It makes for quicker follow up shots and less muzzle rise.
I would feel safe having either one.
CrystalHunter1989 1 year ago
right out of the box, sig recoil springs are TOUGH. gotta be broken in a lil...
fst3v0 2 years ago
As for the Glock comments here. Personally, I loathe Glocks altogether! Too lightweight, too plain, not really impressive. But all of that aside, the Glock is a good gun overall! I see them as being more for smaller shooters since they are lighter than say, SIG's or other full metal guns. Polymer pistols have come a long way and I own a few in smaller calibers myself. They are cheaper which is great if you can't afford better but even then I'd rather go with Ruger, a good tough, metal gun.
KD4UXH 2 years ago
@KD4UXH You see them being for smaller shooters.LMFAO!!!! Next time you see a group of cops check to see how many have glocks.
changapoblana 2 years ago
@changapoblana Yes, the Glock is popular with LE, I know, trust me. *LOL* But the same exact thing can be said for SIG. While some LEO's carry Glock, more Federal agencies carry SIG. It's a tit for tat thing. *LOL*
KD4UXH 2 years ago
Not sure I would say more Federal agencies carry SIG than Glock. Most the time each person/agent has his/her own choice.
Nicho2177 1 year ago
@mercapp Well I won't get into a pissing match about which sidearm is better. *LOL* But I do have to say if you look at the stats and who carries what out there in the professional sector, you'll find that Sig Sauer is by far the preferred sidearm by the professionals in the U.S. and abroad. As I stated below, ammo can be the cause of issues such as those in the video.
KD4UXH 2 years ago
Before last night I would've been confused by this but after researching for a friend, it generally comes back to a few small, non-sidearm related issues, amazingly! Ammo, stance, and the way the sidearms held. Odd as it might seem, any or all of these can cause these issues. Usually though ammo is a good starting point, sub-sonic controlled expansion rounds have a very bad habit of doing just like that. John's stance was good for this gun, tight, locked, forward. Melissa's was weaker.
KD4UXH 2 years ago
hmm...I cant get my XD45, Glock 19 or hell my taurus pt92 to jam up do to limpwristing. Probly a new pistol with weak ammo.
dan16802 2 years ago
not sure which ammo your using now, mine pretty much eats anything though I noticed remington works exceptionally well with this model in 9mm
Armed24seven 2 years ago
u were probably blocking the slide realease lever with ur dominate thumb and u probably were using crappy ammo
blasterrider200 2 years ago
glock sucks wouls rather carry my sig p229 ruger p95 or high point than a glock
unbeatableshooter 2 years ago
@unbeatableshooter serious lol,you would carry a hipoint before you cary a glock?..Why?
TBLACK9IN 1 year ago
Yeah don't hold it like they do in the movies. That doesn't work. Work on the real life technique for proper gun grip.
Squ1bst3r 2 years ago
It is not the weapon malfunctioning, it's the user. looking at the vid your grip was way to laxed and the girl was teacupping it which is why its' jamming and getting a glock .40 will not fix the problem....why are some gunowners so uneducated on the fundementals.
ryanjp81 2 years ago 5
You're right, in this case I was less educated on pistol shooting. The gun now operates perfectly, as both operators have studied better gripping techniques. Not a single malfunction in the 1000+ we've shot since this video. I highly recommend this model to anyone looking for a larger frame 9mm.
soonersx2 2 years ago
I was about to say, I own 3 sig sauers and all three have never jammed. My p229 9mm I've shot 550 rounds and no malfunctions of any kind. My p229 sct .40 I've shot 150 rounds out of it and no jams as of yet, got it last week. looking forward to carrying the .40 more often now seeing it holds 15 rounds of .40 and my 9mm holds only 1 more with one in the chamber, but I love my p229 9mm, wouldn't sell that thing if I was on my last piece of bread :)
Armed24seven 2 years ago
is it me or does the slide not lock on the last round fired? noticed after the guy shoots till empty then attempts fire on an empty chamber without the slide locked open and the hammer just drops. no fire.
weird
jg180sx 2 years ago
You're right, on those first five rounds it didn't lock open. That was one of the issues it was having. However, after cleaning it very throughly after that shooting (it still had some of the shipping grease in it) and changing my stance and grip, the gun hasn't had as much as a hiccup with over 1000 more rounds through it. It's as accurate as I can get my shaky hands to be.
soonersx2 2 years ago
check out glocks, have my .40 never jammed once and had it over a year with 1000+ rounds. From wolf to federal jhp
sickstring980 2 years ago
my sig p229 hasn't had any malfunctions. It was probably an operator error as he states now hes shot 1000 more rounds since than and has had no malfunctions
Armed24seven 2 years ago
sometimes depends on the "ammo" sometimes how firm you hold the gun, my brother hold my Sig like a pussy and sometimes it has feeding problems... with me it works just fine!
Sigfofosauer 2 years ago
just purchased a 229 - 9mm also. The storage grease used is nasty stuff. I shot 5, then cleaned it and lubed it using a thinner oil. Haven't had a single problem - only dumped about 1000 rounds so far tho.
jcreyb 2 years ago
When it stove pipes with one person but not so much another its limpwristing. Also oil the parts of the slide that rub. It will ease the friction some.
manleybeasley 2 years ago
I have since then watched some videos on technique for better gripping and stance. We'll give that a try next time we take it out. Thanks!
soonersx2 2 years ago
Have fun, its a great gun!
manleybeasley 2 years ago
Did you clean the gun and oil it before taking it to the range??? The stock white grease that Sig put on brand new guns are very nasty and thick, you might want to clean them off and then reoil it with a thiner gun oil instead. The magazines also very nasty from the factory soaked in oil as well. Take it apart and rinse the springs down with WD-40, let it soak, clean the insided of the magazines and dry the springs put oil on them and reinstall. This should fix the problems.
PZ
initialdz3 2 years ago
Good advice. I'll try a thinner oil. It probably still had some of the gunk on it from the factory.
soonersx2 2 years ago
exactly! You should always fully clean any new weapon thoroughly, especially pistols. The packing grease to is just to prevent rust during warehouse storage and transportation, not firing. I highly recommend Otis CLP, it strips the nasty grease off, lubricates and protects in one shot. You have to treat a new weapon like a baby. It comes out all nasty..you just have to clean it up a little lol
SRTguy06 2 years ago
Send it back.
American made Sigs have all kinds of problems.
A 5 yr old German Sig is a much better weapon.
QuailFat 2 years ago