Rome can claim he was a three headed goat if they want to and do it with all the pomp and pageantry that only the false government church of Rome can provide, but it doesn't change what John Paul II is in the eyes of a God that looks upon no man or woman with respect over another.
I guess all the deceived sheople in catholicism will now be sending prayers to this dead guy who won't hear a damned one of them while rotting away in his grave. sad, very sad.
It would not be an understatement to say that John Paul II did more damage to the Catholic Faith, than any other Pope in its history, closely followed by Paul VI of course. There is nothing venerable in this.
@1962SatanTookOver2 As the evil ones are starting to retire as bishops, there is hope in the horizon, if the novus ordo react and start restoring the Church. PAX ET BONUM.
1962, I certainly hope you are not saying that the Catholic Church the Church that Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail against has been "hijacked, kidnapped, ect..." Just because the Vatican II allowed for mass in the vernacular does not mean it is a different Sacrifice. Jesus is still made present on the altar at every Catholic Mass, regardless of the language.
@ComeHomeCatholics The changes made in the Mass were much more than "allow[ing] for mass in the vernacular." If you have an opportunity to see an old-style Tridentine Solemn High Mass, please do so. You will be amazed at the differerence between then and now. I am not saying one is bad and the other is good, but it is much more than a matter of language.
For a good fruit, refer to my other post. Now do you really believe the true Church was destroyed? That shows your lack of faith in the words of Christ Himself: "...And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell SHALL NOT PREVAIL against it..."
@1962SatanTookOver2 Pope John XXIII opened and read the secret. He placed it back in the secret archives of the Vaticans Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith where it remained hidden from the world until recently. In 1917 the Fatima children understood that the bishop in white, in the Secret, who falls apparently dead, was the Pope.
Pope John, and Paul VI didnt reveal it because of it's graphic contents. As for John Paul I HE ONLY LIVED FOR 33 DAYS!!!
On March 25, 1984, the feast of the Annunciation, Pope John Paul II consecrated Russia in a public ceremony. Lúcia Santos, one of the seers of the Fátima apparitions, said that the consecration requested by the Virgin Mary was fulfilled and accepted in heaven, and that everyone should live out the consecration personally by faithfully wearing the Brown Scapular.
@1962SatanTookOver2 Just like what OrganOfPraise7 said. Your leaders so-called 'bishops' are blinding you to the point where you cant see past what nearly all the world is seeing. I bet Even some atheists are calling him a good man. John Paul II touched the lives of so many people no matter their gender, creed, culture, and heritage. And to think a Catholic like yourself are in 'dismay' just because People from all over the world want to see John Paul II canonized just doesnt fit well. PAX!
OH SHUT UP!!! You and your society began with good intentions but now you are being led astray. For goodness sakes a french nun was cured from an illness only hours after writing JP's name on a piece of paper. people who arent even Catholic, who havent even received the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ are proclaiming him to be a saintly man. Stop being ignorant and see the facts that your 'Leaders' have blinded you with. JOHN PAUL II IS A SAINT!
evaperonfan: Thank you for your kind Comment, yes Pope John Paul II was indeed a Saint on earth living in our times. he was a True Example of Christ in our midst.
@FreedomLiberty21 Well, the Pope is the head of the Catholic Church. Pope John Paul II or Karol Wojtayla I have to say is the best Pope. Im not just saying that because Im Polish. Pope Benedict xvi is also a great Pope. It takes a lot to be the Pope and if your not Catholic you will not understand.
Just by refering to a human being as "another old man" speaks enough about yor regard for humanity itself. JP did not claim to know the meaning of life, HE KNEW IT, as all of us who believe. What makes him different was his commitment to his mission, which was to carry a light for the world, and hope for all nations.Among other feats, I am thankful that JP, in conjuction with Walesa, and Reagan, initiated the fall of communism, with its nuclear threat, in USSR, Polonia and East Germany.
@jorgediego All that was staged, a big theater, Rusia did not lose any war, the comunism is still alive and well. Many priests in Poland acted as informants for the government.
As a "born again Catholic" I can say I am a product of Vatican II, having served the Church for almost 30 years, for the Glory of God. I am old enough to have overcome the fear of nuclear war, but young enough to have missed the latin rites. I can not see the advantages of hearing our mass prayers and readings in a language I couldn't fully identify with, if that is what some want to bring back.
Pope John the Pedophile Protector Paul is gonna be a saint... nicely done catholic church
ColdAsBalls 10 months ago
@1962SatanTookOver2 I have a question, how do you feel about padre pio?
rcarnes1988 11 months ago
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Rome can claim he was a three headed goat if they want to and do it with all the pomp and pageantry that only the false government church of Rome can provide, but it doesn't change what John Paul II is in the eyes of a God that looks upon no man or woman with respect over another.
I guess all the deceived sheople in catholicism will now be sending prayers to this dead guy who won't hear a damned one of them while rotting away in his grave. sad, very sad.
BloodTar 2 years ago
It would not be an understatement to say that John Paul II did more damage to the Catholic Faith, than any other Pope in its history, closely followed by Paul VI of course. There is nothing venerable in this.
iotaunam1 2 years ago
@1962SatanTookOver2 As the evil ones are starting to retire as bishops, there is hope in the horizon, if the novus ordo react and start restoring the Church. PAX ET BONUM.
SanJuana1985 2 years ago
1962, I certainly hope you are not saying that the Catholic Church the Church that Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail against has been "hijacked, kidnapped, ect..." Just because the Vatican II allowed for mass in the vernacular does not mean it is a different Sacrifice. Jesus is still made present on the altar at every Catholic Mass, regardless of the language.
ComeHomeCatholics 2 years ago
@ComeHomeCatholics The changes made in the Mass were much more than "allow[ing] for mass in the vernacular." If you have an opportunity to see an old-style Tridentine Solemn High Mass, please do so. You will be amazed at the differerence between then and now. I am not saying one is bad and the other is good, but it is much more than a matter of language.
mindspring57 1 year ago
For a good fruit, refer to my other post. Now do you really believe the true Church was destroyed? That shows your lack of faith in the words of Christ Himself: "...And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell SHALL NOT PREVAIL against it..."
(Matt 16:18)
jorgediego 2 years ago 2
@jorgediego The Catholic Church will ot be destroyed, but we have the big apostasy, as the Holy Bible warns, many will be confused and lost.
SanJuana1985 2 years ago
@1962SatanTookOver2 Pope John XXIII opened and read the secret. He placed it back in the secret archives of the Vaticans Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith where it remained hidden from the world until recently. In 1917 the Fatima children understood that the bishop in white, in the Secret, who falls apparently dead, was the Pope.
Pope John, and Paul VI didnt reveal it because of it's graphic contents. As for John Paul I HE ONLY LIVED FOR 33 DAYS!!!
ELBoxxerDave 2 years ago 2
@1962SatanTookOver2
On March 25, 1984, the feast of the Annunciation, Pope John Paul II consecrated Russia in a public ceremony. Lúcia Santos, one of the seers of the Fátima apparitions, said that the consecration requested by the Virgin Mary was fulfilled and accepted in heaven, and that everyone should live out the consecration personally by faithfully wearing the Brown Scapular.
OrganOfPraise7 2 years ago 4
@OrganOfPraise7 Not so, the consecration must be done with all the bishops of the world.
xipe02 2 years ago
@1962SatanTookOver2
Of course I dont understand it. If it comes from the SSPX of course no one will understand it.XDDD
OrganOfPraise7 2 years ago 6
@1962SatanTookOver2 Just like what OrganOfPraise7 said. Your leaders so-called 'bishops' are blinding you to the point where you cant see past what nearly all the world is seeing. I bet Even some atheists are calling him a good man. John Paul II touched the lives of so many people no matter their gender, creed, culture, and heritage. And to think a Catholic like yourself are in 'dismay' just because People from all over the world want to see John Paul II canonized just doesnt fit well. PAX!
ELBoxxerDave 2 years ago 3
@1962SatanTookOver2
OH SHUT UP!!! You and your society began with good intentions but now you are being led astray. For goodness sakes a french nun was cured from an illness only hours after writing JP's name on a piece of paper. people who arent even Catholic, who havent even received the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ are proclaiming him to be a saintly man. Stop being ignorant and see the facts that your 'Leaders' have blinded you with. JOHN PAUL II IS A SAINT!
OrganOfPraise7 2 years ago
FINALLY! I cant wait to see his beatification.
checkthisout732 2 years ago
AMEN!
I can already see it: Blessed John Paul II, or Better yet Pope St. John Paul THE GREAT!!!
SanctusMatrisTemplum 2 years ago
evaperonfan: Thank you for your kind Comment, yes Pope John Paul II was indeed a Saint on earth living in our times. he was a True Example of Christ in our midst.
jp2ily 2 years ago 2
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another old man wearing a white dress, living in Rome and claiming to know the exact meaning of life undergoes apotheosis
whats the big deal here?
FreedomLiberty21 2 years ago
@FreedomLiberty21 Well, the Pope is the head of the Catholic Church. Pope John Paul II or Karol Wojtayla I have to say is the best Pope. Im not just saying that because Im Polish. Pope Benedict xvi is also a great Pope. It takes a lot to be the Pope and if your not Catholic you will not understand.
pianomusic28 2 years ago
Just by refering to a human being as "another old man" speaks enough about yor regard for humanity itself. JP did not claim to know the meaning of life, HE KNEW IT, as all of us who believe. What makes him different was his commitment to his mission, which was to carry a light for the world, and hope for all nations.Among other feats, I am thankful that JP, in conjuction with Walesa, and Reagan, initiated the fall of communism, with its nuclear threat, in USSR, Polonia and East Germany.
jorgediego 2 years ago
@jorgediego All that was staged, a big theater, Rusia did not lose any war, the comunism is still alive and well. Many priests in Poland acted as informants for the government.
SanJuana1985 2 years ago
As a "born again Catholic" I can say I am a product of Vatican II, having served the Church for almost 30 years, for the Glory of God. I am old enough to have overcome the fear of nuclear war, but young enough to have missed the latin rites. I can not see the advantages of hearing our mass prayers and readings in a language I couldn't fully identify with, if that is what some want to bring back.
jorgediego 2 years ago