it seems like keria k. tried to copy the way jennifer spoke, and all the mannerisms of lizzy portrayed by ehle. though they are both good actors, i think jennifer ehle is better at acting out elizabeth
Yeah, the 1995 version is more accurate to the book. Although, it did have a lot more time to include the events. I think the 2005 movie was modernized, and the director made it so that the audience would rely more on facial expressions of all the characters than dialogue. (i love both of the versions though!!)
Jennifer Ehle does such a great job playing as Lizzy! She just fits the role so well. Colin Firth fits the role as well..it's just a bit creepy how he stares at Lizzy...which is understandable because in the book he's madly in love with her
I like this portrayal of Charlotte Lucas I think a lot of the other versions miss the point of Charlotte, she isn't stupid she's just different from Lizzie
@Rosebloom12 I can see your point. but you also have to look at the whole marriage from Mr Collins' and Charlottes point of vieww. Jane Austen describes Charlotte as not very handsome and very practical and it wasn't that far out of the way in those times to marry for money rather than for affection because it was the only way to secure their future, as Jane Austen says in the preamble of the book.
@veevoo12 Well, we actually don't know quite how old he is - just that he's "about" 25. And I suppose back then men could marry older women than themselves, just as today.
I agree with you, ezzie4zac. Jennifer Ehle suits Elizabeth Bennett's character so well, I think. I will not say she is better than Keira Knightley; they are both great actresses. But I do like this version better.
I like Caroline and Jane in the Hollywood version better. I think a woman of Caroline's upbringing would act and look more like the other one. And Jane is so beautiful in the other one as well. Of course she is beautiful in this one, just different. Roman-looking. Love BBC.
@Rosebloom12 This whole series is the essence of conservatism. I don't think neo-liberal post-Woodstock women's lib is anything for Mary to aspire to either. Nor do I think Gloria Steinam would be particularly proud of Liz curtseying to every man. You assume too much. How do you know she doesn't put things into practice? How do you know whom she reads? You're just being reactionary at this point.
Isn't Jennifer Ehle's accent a bit funny ? I can't really say, cause I'm French, but I do think it's a bit unusual, never heard that kind of accent before.
I absolutely love this version, not very famous in my country unfortunately
And to those who should sleep but are watching this instead, I say : same here :)
@mokilepoissonrouge Ahhh...good ear! You may be picking up a bit of the mix she has. She was born here in the US but shifted back and forth between here and the UK. It does tend to alter the accent. I know from first hand experience. :)
I actually read that she was half american and half british. I thought it was probably what explained her accent, but I still wanted to check and make sure I wasn't imagining it :)
Since you seem to know what you're talking about, do you think you could tell me what are the precise differences between her accent and an "ordinary" english one ? Even though I noticed they weren't the same I can't quite put my finger on what makes them different.
I like how Jane and Elizabeth thank the servants in this version. I don't remember reading any, "Thank you"s in the book nor hearing it in the 2005 version. I feel so bad for servants back then; they were really treated as nobodies. I love reading books that show lower class point of views from the Regency, Victorian, and Edwardian eras.
The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. I believe Austen had this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
The more I watch this series the more I am impressed with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
@Ariella24 They could have both taken it in different ways: Jane might think that she plans to have Bingley marry Georgiana, Lizzie that she plans to marry Darcy herself. However, it is most probably that it is the former, as it would make sense that Lizzie was then concerned for her sister's happiness, as at this point, Lizzie is not even sure of her feelings for Darcy, never mind speaking of them to her sister. :) But I agree it is interesting how both could be Caroline's possible meanings.
@Ariella24 Caroline Bingley did have designs on Darcy, and was jealous of Lizzie. She also would have liked Georgiana to marry her brother Charles Bingley. Either way, had her wishes come to fruition, then Georgiana would have been her sister-in-law. Darcy was fully aware of Caroline Bingley's designs and plans on him and on his sister, and he slighted her whenever she spoke ill of Lizzie or tried to embarrass her in company.
I always think of Mr. Wickham as being more a charmer than handsome. When I read the book, in my mind's eye, I didn't necessarily see him as more handsome, just more charming and easy going. We all have met that type of guy that is not the best looking one in the room but the women are all over him because he is so smoothe. That is how I see Wickham.
I maried one, charmer andhandsom too. Women like moths on the flame! Didnt last, sob! We cant have everything, good looks + charm, and...faithful, not nowadays.....
@madalene2012 Yep, so did I...hence the comment. LOL I thought Adrian Lukis did a good job as Wickham. I never saw him as handsome but charming. The big screen Wickham (Rupert Friend0 was too handsome imho but not nearly as charming as Adrian's version. Weird huh?
@TheHollapaula that's what i thought too, at first. I thought they both looked too old and plain for the parts. I did watch the 2005 version first too, which probably affected my decision a great deal. However, I have come to realize that Jane and Eliza in this version have a "classical" beauty, if you've ever heard of the term. Eliza especially has the most beautiful eyes and facial expressions in this version, and I have come to love this version far more than the 2005 version, even though I
That letter from Caroline is just so mean... :( But Georgiana in this version...she looks pretty similar to the actress playing her in the 2005 film, doesn't she?
the movie version was short ... only reason it wasnt 'as good' although for the sake of Matthew as Mr Darcy I have to say that both versions are tied in my opinion :) ohh Matt-Darcy *-*
Elizabeth is a hypocrite.....why did she expect wickham to marry for money but don't want charlotte to marry for money...doesn't she realize the situation that charlotte is in.
Also....Jane is the smarter and better one of the two...she doesn't jump to conclusions like charlotte....I never wonder why everyone go on about charlotte being so open and honest when she could hold a grudge like the next person.
her facial expressions are definitely more lizzie then kiera's... basically all the script for this version is better then teh 2005 movies. the movie was just too short to convey teh story properly.
i thought whickham was ment to be really handsom and a little more interesting but their portrale of him is not what i thought it would be but colin firth is doibng very well at being mr darcy but i do prefer the man that plays mr darcy in the 2005 film of the book. he just melts my heart at the end lol
I totally agree! But I prefere this version :P If only matthew macfadyen were the one playing mr. darcy, Simon woods were the one playing mr. Bingley and Rupert friend played Wickham :P I like Jennifer Ehle better than Keira Knightley as Lizzie :P
i know what you mean. jennifer ehle is way better than keria knightley. there is more dialog and there is something about the way she spoke something that fit with my idea of lizzy.
You reply very promptly. Anyway, sorry if I offended you. I just think that there's something about her that makes me not really want to look at her. I think that Elizabeth is much prettier, even if she's not as mature. But at least she has a sense of humor.
I don't think that it's Susannah Harker as much as it is that Jane is supposed to look like a radiant angel, and while Susannah Harker is lovely, I personally think Jane from the 2007 movie was a more accurate portrayal.
Beg to differ: Knightley is too modern, forces/clenches jaw constantly, very aggressive, too irrascible. She was so not on comfortable in the historical period's requirements. She mis-represents Austen's premier woman.
I COMPLETELY agree. Her head is too small for her body. Actually i think she looks like a bird. But you know I'm, pretty sure i know why they cast her; I kept thinking she looked familiar then i realised she looks like an old painting. You know the ones you see and wonder why they're so ugly? I think that was what was considered beautiful at the time. I'm trying really hard to find her beautiful, I mean she's supposed to be Jane Bennet, but seriously, she looks almost retarded in some way.
In the beginning Mr.Whikham seems like SUCH a nice young man! I remember watching this the first time and I was so shocked to learn otherwise, its really rather sad isnt it?
I must admit I like the dresses of this era, but the white ones remind me too much of a night gown. I believe that once I get the money I will buy this whole series.
I have to agree that Lydias actions are very forward and loose for the time period. Also I find myself not wanting to go to bed yet must keep watching it.
I like movies where female characters are not size zero or typical hollywood beauties - these are all natural beautiful women. I mean, how many people back in those days had hair extensions or super white teeth?
I can't believe how inappropriate Lydia is! Chasing after soldiers all the time and being raucous. She acts like she's 12, not 15. Why does her family let her run wild like that? It seems highly out of character for the time period. Wouldn't her father have put his foot down?
@Sarandib22 - I'm not so familiar with the time period but I would think that the mother is responsible for the raising of the child and not the father. Mrs Bennet seems to be the cause of lydia and kitty. what a shame?
They are the result of Mrs. Bennet's loose rearing. She often promotes their flirtatious and riduclus actions. She brings it upon herself and is blind to their behavior. 'Tis a shame...
I like Charlotte's response in every version you see. Lizzie is clearly put in her place. Though she is a heroine and you do adore her, she is very full of her own self-importance, probably because she holds the place of her father's favorite. She sits by and watches her sisters act ridiculous and then acts oh so hurt when they are corrected. Perhaps if she had opened her mouth, they wouldn't be publically embarassed. And her behavior towards Charlotte is deplorable.
I 100% agree with you there myhighlanddream, and the ease in which she cast aside their childhood friendship was disgusting, obviously the arrogance coming out.
@myhighlanddream i think Lizzie is upset and angry because she thinks that Charlotte deserves love! Lizzie feels that Charlotte settled for stupid and embarrassing man
Estates didn't always have to go to a male heir. For example, Mr. Collins said that Lady Catherine's daughter was going to inherit Rosings Park, presumably whether she marries or not.
actually in the book it is said that Charlotte has brothers. It is not said how many but it is implied that are a few.when everyone finds out that Charlotte is marrying mr. Collins is pa paragraph in the book, can't remember how it sounds exactly but it is something like " her sisters were happy that they could make their entrance in the society, and her brothers were happy that they will not have a spinster in the family"
In the book Sir Lucas has several younger male children, though I'm not sure if they're mentioned in the movie. I know they aren't mentioned in the 2005 version.
In that time Mr. Collins was a good catch. Not only would she be married a plus for women she would become mistress of the home she grew up in and saver her sisters when their father died.
it seems that way but at that time marriage was the only option for most women. She honestly is looking out for her daughter just not in the right way. she isn't a vicious person
very true. she wants the best for her daughters and wants them to be provided for, like every mother. but the silliness gets in the way of going about it with sense. (as a side note, perhaps silliness is hereditary? just look at Mrs. Bettet, Kitty, and Lydia lol.)
The interpretation of Mrs Bennett as being 'silly' can be attributed to her birth into a family of a lower class. She would not have known the mores, and ettiquete of the 'superior' social circles. She wants only to see her daughters rise to a higher rung of society as she did...it is only her lack on manners and knowledge of the ways of society that are seen as silly. It is the actress in this case who overplays the character.
It wasn't back then, but I find that just like nowadays still, if you're related to someone even so far down the family tree, you're still referred to as cousin without the degree reference.
I like the actress who plays Jane in the 2005 version. she fits perfectly. But I LOVE this Lizzy, she's wonderful.
I've always hated Mrs. Bennett, no matter who plays her character. This version makes her even more terrible. So pretentious it's sickening!
I guess I didn't differentiate the topics very well, I'm well educated enough to know that that's what makes the actors and actresses good at what they do, what was more implied on my statement was Mrs. Bennet the fictionalized character herself. She irks me in the worst way.
Cousins marrying isn't really disgusting. There is enough genetic difference to make it so that there isn't really a problem. Until fairly recently (the last 75 or so years - maybe 100) marrying a cousin was acceptable for a lot of reasons: the family is known; wealth stayed in the family; sending a daughter off to marry a cousin was far more desirable than sending her off to strangers. Most cousins are extremely compatible (I don't mean sexually) for obvious reasons.
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I agree totally. Even her facial expressions sometimes matched Ehle. The 2005 movie was not true at all to the book.
lapagan01 1 year ago
it seems like keria k. tried to copy the way jennifer spoke, and all the mannerisms of lizzy portrayed by ehle. though they are both good actors, i think jennifer ehle is better at acting out elizabeth
chocolateyum011 1 year ago
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I agree totally. Even her facial expressions sometimes matched Ehle. The 2005 movie was not true at all to the book.
lapagan01 1 year ago
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Yeah, the 1995 version is more accurate to the book. Although, it did have a lot more time to include the events. I think the 2005 movie was modernized, and the director made it so that the audience would rely more on facial expressions of all the characters than dialogue. (i love both of the versions though!!)
chocolateyum011 1 year ago
oh how lydia annoys me...
ilovecheesecheese111 1 year ago
Jennifer Ehle does such a great job playing as Lizzy! She just fits the role so well. Colin Firth fits the role as well..it's just a bit creepy how he stares at Lizzy...which is understandable because in the book he's madly in love with her
edashibaMU 1 year ago
aww I love how sweet Jane is
latinapeacechick 1 year ago
Oh Mary, I absolutely love you.
Colluctari 1 year ago 2
ive always felt bad for charlotte having to marry collins, i mean she was so scared to end up an old maid and he was her only chance
BubblegumPopMusic13 1 year ago 10
I think Mr Collins should marry Lady Catherine's fireplace. He talks about it enough!
popsytm 1 year ago 21
i absolutely think that those officers are laughing at lydia and kitty all the time after having left them.
MyDreamLivesInMe 1 year ago 4
I like this portrayal of Charlotte Lucas I think a lot of the other versions miss the point of Charlotte, she isn't stupid she's just different from Lizzie
Indzzgracey 1 year ago 12
The best Mr. Wickham. This one is like the opposite of Snape, perfectly, as the guy who looks good, but is bad.
TheLeopardBrightsky 1 year ago
"She's marrying one of the stupidest men in England!"
You can say that again >.<
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@Rosebloom12 I can see your point. but you also have to look at the whole marriage from Mr Collins' and Charlottes point of vieww. Jane Austen describes Charlotte as not very handsome and very practical and it wasn't that far out of the way in those times to marry for money rather than for affection because it was the only way to secure their future, as Jane Austen says in the preamble of the book.
BenjiPiglette 1 year ago
This actress is too pretty to play Charlotte.
Sage80 1 year ago 6
there's nothing better than men in uniform. They look so cute!
ibravo85 1 year ago 3
Isn't it kind of weird that Charlotte is 27 and Mr. Collins is only 25?
veevoo12 1 year ago
@veevoo12 haha cougar!
HannahVell 1 year ago
@veevoo12 Well, we actually don't know quite how old he is - just that he's "about" 25. And I suppose back then men could marry older women than themselves, just as today.
Rosebloom12 1 year ago
mary is such a pain in the ass, and so are kitty and lydia
i dont get it why dont their parents try to controle them !!!!!!!
DaphneeLudwig1 1 year ago
i think mary needs a good romp, maybe that way she'll stick her nose off the air. lol
CristinaBellex 1 year ago
I agree with you, ezzie4zac. Jennifer Ehle suits Elizabeth Bennett's character so well, I think. I will not say she is better than Keira Knightley; they are both great actresses. But I do like this version better.
I like Caroline and Jane in the Hollywood version better. I think a woman of Caroline's upbringing would act and look more like the other one. And Jane is so beautiful in the other one as well. Of course she is beautiful in this one, just different. Roman-looking. Love BBC.
GaaraFangirl117 1 year ago 2
They scoff, but honestly, Mary is right in everything she says, if untactful.
Sage80 1 year ago 3
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Rosebloom12 1 year ago
@Rosebloom12 This whole series is the essence of conservatism. I don't think neo-liberal post-Woodstock women's lib is anything for Mary to aspire to either. Nor do I think Gloria Steinam would be particularly proud of Liz curtseying to every man. You assume too much. How do you know she doesn't put things into practice? How do you know whom she reads? You're just being reactionary at this point.
Sage80 1 year ago
@Marinealpha hahahaha omg you totaly read what i worte the wrong way lol
ezzie4zac 1 year ago
What's the servant doing calling Jane "Ma'am" she's not mistress of the house and shes unmarried at that point.
Woodlander65 1 year ago
I dislike Charlotte
bitterblackberry 1 year ago
Isn't Jennifer Ehle's accent a bit funny ? I can't really say, cause I'm French, but I do think it's a bit unusual, never heard that kind of accent before.
I absolutely love this version, not very famous in my country unfortunately
And to those who should sleep but are watching this instead, I say : same here :)
mokilepoissonrouge 1 year ago 3
@mokilepoissonrouge Ahhh...good ear! You may be picking up a bit of the mix she has. She was born here in the US but shifted back and forth between here and the UK. It does tend to alter the accent. I know from first hand experience. :)
MyFondestMemories 1 year ago
@MyFondestMemories Right, thanks :)
I actually read that she was half american and half british. I thought it was probably what explained her accent, but I still wanted to check and make sure I wasn't imagining it :)
Since you seem to know what you're talking about, do you think you could tell me what are the precise differences between her accent and an "ordinary" english one ? Even though I noticed they weren't the same I can't quite put my finger on what makes them different.
mokilepoissonrouge 1 year ago
I like how Jane and Elizabeth thank the servants in this version. I don't remember reading any, "Thank you"s in the book nor hearing it in the 2005 version. I feel so bad for servants back then; they were really treated as nobodies. I love reading books that show lower class point of views from the Regency, Victorian, and Edwardian eras.
SgtPlmFry 1 year ago 4
my eyes are burning with sleep but I can't.stop.watching!
potterlove 1 year ago 4
@potterlove It's just the same with me! :D
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The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
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The more I watch this series the more I am impressed by with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
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The more I watch this series the more I am impressed with Susannah Harker's portrayal of Jane. I now see that it is Jane's quiet dignity and her nobleness of character that make her beautiful. Did Austen have this in mind when she described her as the most beautiful?
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Delcielo9 1 year ago
Have I been watching too many british movies and tv shows or they don't have an english accent in this episode, because I don't seem to notice it.
abby850 1 year ago
Have I been watching too many british movies and tv shows or they don't have an english accent in this episode, because I don't seem to notice it.
abby850 1 year ago
I laughed out loud at the end of this video when Mary speaks and Lydia gets flabbergasted. Lydia is silly and childsih, but she's funny and real.
gracieallen1 1 year ago
@Ariella24 They could have both taken it in different ways: Jane might think that she plans to have Bingley marry Georgiana, Lizzie that she plans to marry Darcy herself. However, it is most probably that it is the former, as it would make sense that Lizzie was then concerned for her sister's happiness, as at this point, Lizzie is not even sure of her feelings for Darcy, never mind speaking of them to her sister. :) But I agree it is interesting how both could be Caroline's possible meanings.
fabziepie 1 year ago
Such simple, nice conversations.
akkalove1 1 year ago 2
ughhh! Basically EVERYONE is telling Lizzy that Wickham's story is false, but she just won't admit it!!!
xxjudesxx 1 year ago
Oh my I cant stop watching and it's so late :((((
sulertia 1 year ago 6
@sulertia i know im like at 1:11 am and im going to watch it :P
GiPeTu111 1 year ago
@Ariella24 Caroline Bingley did have designs on Darcy, and was jealous of Lizzie. She also would have liked Georgiana to marry her brother Charles Bingley. Either way, had her wishes come to fruition, then Georgiana would have been her sister-in-law. Darcy was fully aware of Caroline Bingley's designs and plans on him and on his sister, and he slighted her whenever she spoke ill of Lizzie or tried to embarrass her in company.
gilyat 1 year ago
@Ariella24 i was thinking the exact same thing!
Pheonix90912 1 year ago
hahaha im in the same situation too..its 3:37 am, and im soo watching this.....fuck sleep :)
FuckShitBoloxHaHa 1 year ago
jane knows that darcy and lizzie are a match....she has to!!
AnnaBxox24 1 year ago
I always think of Mr. Wickham as being more a charmer than handsome. When I read the book, in my mind's eye, I didn't necessarily see him as more handsome, just more charming and easy going. We all have met that type of guy that is not the best looking one in the room but the women are all over him because he is so smoothe. That is how I see Wickham.
debsplum 1 year ago
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Iv married one, charmer and handsome! Too many women were after him, didnt last, sob!
madalene2012 1 year ago
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I maried one, charmer andhandsom too. Women like moths on the flame! Didnt last, sob! We cant have everything, good looks + charm, and...faithful, not nowadays.....
madalene2012 1 year ago
@madalene2012 Yep, so did I...hence the comment. LOL I thought Adrian Lukis did a good job as Wickham. I never saw him as handsome but charming. The big screen Wickham (Rupert Friend0 was too handsome imho but not nearly as charming as Adrian's version. Weird huh?
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ughhh jane is ugly and so is lizzy...but ill continue watching :)
TheHollapaula 1 year ago
@TheHollapaula that's what i thought too, at first. I thought they both looked too old and plain for the parts. I did watch the 2005 version first too, which probably affected my decision a great deal. However, I have come to realize that Jane and Eliza in this version have a "classical" beauty, if you've ever heard of the term. Eliza especially has the most beautiful eyes and facial expressions in this version, and I have come to love this version far more than the 2005 version, even though I
lacrosseplayer49 1 year ago 2
@lacrosseplayer49 --I totally understand your opinion.
lacrosseplayer49 1 year ago
@lacrosseplayer49 i totally agree. i like this version far more than the newer version!!! there's more character to it.
TheHollapaula 1 year ago
@lacrosseplayer49 Yeah, these actresses are more classically beautiful. Jane looks like someone from a Renaissance painting.
tblanl 1 year ago 3
@TheHollapaula Lizzy is rather beautiful, I reckon.
ruzbehan 1 year ago
Wow.... Mr Bennet is one of the funniest characters in any book i've read or film i've seen...
CFCBrewer 1 year ago 4
That letter from Caroline is just so mean... :( But Georgiana in this version...she looks pretty similar to the actress playing her in the 2005 film, doesn't she?
Heowa 1 year ago 2
@Heowa She is absolutely prettier than 2005's Georgiana IMO
mrsdontbelieveinlove 1 year ago
oh mary... SHUT UP! btw... SHE should have married Mr. collins. perfect match and the house stays in the family.
consgn2oblivion 1 year ago
love this version
xXharrypottergeek1Xx 1 year ago 2
the movie version was short ... only reason it wasnt 'as good' although for the sake of Matthew as Mr Darcy I have to say that both versions are tied in my opinion :) ohh Matt-Darcy *-*
Larii2cute4u 1 year ago 3
marriage...Mr Collins....**SHUDDER***
calamtykel 1 year ago 2
Elizabeth is a hypocrite.....why did she expect wickham to marry for money but don't want charlotte to marry for money...doesn't she realize the situation that charlotte is in.
Also....Jane is the smarter and better one of the two...she doesn't jump to conclusions like charlotte....I never wonder why everyone go on about charlotte being so open and honest when she could hold a grudge like the next person.
grayeyes043 1 year ago
poor Bingley and jane....
bronteteri 1 year ago
hands down, darcy-firth
ehle-lizzie
i srsly cnt even imagine anyone else in these roles......
bchan89 1 year ago 37
her facial expressions are definitely more lizzie then kiera's... basically all the script for this version is better then teh 2005 movies. the movie was just too short to convey teh story properly.
doctorwhoHAWKEYE 1 year ago 7
i thought whickham was ment to be really handsom and a little more interesting but their portrale of him is not what i thought it would be but colin firth is doibng very well at being mr darcy but i do prefer the man that plays mr darcy in the 2005 film of the book. he just melts my heart at the end lol
ezzie4zac 1 year ago 4
I totally agree! But I prefere this version :P If only matthew macfadyen were the one playing mr. darcy, Simon woods were the one playing mr. Bingley and Rupert friend played Wickham :P I like Jennifer Ehle better than Keira Knightley as Lizzie :P
Sachie94 1 year ago
i know what you mean. jennifer ehle is way better than keria knightley. there is more dialog and there is something about the way she spoke something that fit with my idea of lizzy.
ezzie4zac 1 year ago 73
Yeah! :D
Sachie94 1 year ago
@ezzie4zac It's the twinkle in her eye and that clever smirk
Indzzgracey 1 year ago
@Sachie94 me to this is more detailed and stuff
ezzie4zac 1 year ago
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I think that ALL of you have taken to using austenian language! ))))
CatherineAuguste 1 year ago
pride and predj oh yey!!!!! pride and predj Yey!!! x
angelstarbright 2 years ago 2
Ew! Charlotte is not at all attractive to me. Even Jane looks better than her. Elisabeth is beautiful.
kellyilla 2 years ago
I think Charlotte looks better than Lizzy.
jgmes2001 2 years ago
Agreed, she is easier on the eye for sure and a much better option for a wife.
Jo7welder 2 years ago
i see you have taken to using austenian language!
angelstarbright 2 years ago
I dont know why they chose Mr. Collins to be short in both movies it clearly states that he was a tall man in the book??
TheTharzas 2 years ago
For fear he might appear handsome... tall men have a certain charm no matter how tedious they are. This would defy the purpose of the character.
ralucaursachi 2 years ago
Well, I think Jane is beautiful.
silversmith8 2 years ago 5
Hmm, poor Mary. Now that Mr.Collins is taken I wonder what will happen to her.
SkysongOfSerenity 2 years ago 3
I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!! Jane's head is too small for her body. And her head and neck seem to morph together into one mass. Thats it.
phantomphan77 2 years ago 3
What do you mean?
chigaloo2 2 years ago
I was trying to figure out why I thought Jane was such an eyesore, and I figured it out. Sorry if you like her. I just can't.
phantomphan77 2 years ago
Eyesore? If Susannah Harker is an eyesore then im an Indonesian, i think shes a lovely looking girl, and thats a mans opinion on it.
However your entitled to your opinion, just thought eyesore was a bit much.
Anyway never mind.
chigaloo2 2 years ago
You reply very promptly. Anyway, sorry if I offended you. I just think that there's something about her that makes me not really want to look at her. I think that Elizabeth is much prettier, even if she's not as mature. But at least she has a sense of humor.
phantomphan77 2 years ago 2
I don't think that it's Susannah Harker as much as it is that Jane is supposed to look like a radiant angel, and while Susannah Harker is lovely, I personally think Jane from the 2007 movie was a more accurate portrayal.
kiwifruteful 2 years ago 2
Mnn, yes you may be right with that.
Jo7welder 2 years ago
Beg to differ: Knightley is too modern, forces/clenches jaw constantly, very aggressive, too irrascible. She was so not on comfortable in the historical period's requirements. She mis-represents Austen's premier woman.
prlibre565 2 years ago 6
Oh no, I meant Jane.
kiwifruteful 2 years ago
Well, did you know the actress was pregnant during the filming? I find she looks remarkably well, considering!
ralucaursachi 2 years ago
I COMPLETELY agree. Her head is too small for her body. Actually i think she looks like a bird. But you know I'm, pretty sure i know why they cast her; I kept thinking she looked familiar then i realised she looks like an old painting. You know the ones you see and wonder why they're so ugly? I think that was what was considered beautiful at the time. I'm trying really hard to find her beautiful, I mean she's supposed to be Jane Bennet, but seriously, she looks almost retarded in some way.
AKINAC16 2 years ago
Exactly ! And her smile is so stupid I want to slap her. Seriously, it's not Jane Bennet...
andana3 2 years ago
what a coincidence, it's 2 am and i was pondering whether i should go to bed or not... It's a P&P thing i suppose.
margaridcosta 2 years ago 7
haha i am exactly in the same position except it's four now haha.
crybabysandy 2 years ago 4
In the beginning Mr.Whikham seems like SUCH a nice young man! I remember watching this the first time and I was so shocked to learn otherwise, its really rather sad isnt it?
MiakoKoneo 2 years ago 2
I must admit I like the dresses of this era, but the white ones remind me too much of a night gown. I believe that once I get the money I will buy this whole series.
silvermagic18 2 years ago 4
Mr Bennett sees right through Mr Wickam
3carlyann 2 years ago 26
I have to agree that Lydias actions are very forward and loose for the time period. Also I find myself not wanting to go to bed yet must keep watching it.
darkhunter1967 2 years ago 10
It is 2.07 AM. I have two choices: 1. Go to bed 2. Keep watching this. I will go with 2 i think :)
calamariattack 2 years ago 150
I've been doing the same, haha
grabitgee 2 years ago
@calamariattack
SAME HERE
caradeescusado 2 years ago
I'm in the same situation as you, and I say sleep quite overrated when you have the choice to keep watching this : )
MST3K86 2 years ago 6
'tis a common choice of action :D
aoisiren 2 years ago
@calamariattack. lol. Its 3:30AM and I can't stop watching this either!
ggtamayo 1 year ago
@calamariattack - that's exactly how it was for me, COL (chuckle-out-loud) Oh so good! LOVE this version mostest of all, absolutely!
caliginousweirm 1 year ago
@calamariattack LOL im in exactly the same position! im in cyprus, its 3 42 am .. sleep or this?
THISSS :D
SEXIHUNNI5 1 year ago
@SEXIHUNNI5
ahaha , we are in many, night people!! Its a pandemic movie stuff!!
madalene2012 1 year ago
@calamariattack I do exactly the same thing most nights! Its my "wind down time" and I must have watched these episodes at least twenty times each!
gilyat 1 year ago
@calamariattack it's 4.20 am. I have two choices:1 Go to bed.2.Keep watching.....
Im in a waste position you were. I choose to go to bed, after all, and watch the rest tomorrow....
madalene2012 1 year ago
@calamariattack i read this comment exactly at 2:07 as well and i completely agree with option 2!
flavadrbutta 1 year ago
I like movies where female characters are not size zero or typical hollywood beauties - these are all natural beautiful women. I mean, how many people back in those days had hair extensions or super white teeth?
HelenaJ00 2 years ago 113
@HelenaJ00 I know, it makes me feel better that these heroines are plump too.
akkalove1 1 year ago 2
Mr Bennett is well smart, he's bitchin'
partyhat3 2 years ago 5
I can't believe how inappropriate Lydia is! Chasing after soldiers all the time and being raucous. She acts like she's 12, not 15. Why does her family let her run wild like that? It seems highly out of character for the time period. Wouldn't her father have put his foot down?
Sarandib22 2 years ago 5
@Sarandib22
with Mrs Bennet? hopeless...
dragonlyra 2 years ago
@Sarandib22 - I'm not so familiar with the time period but I would think that the mother is responsible for the raising of the child and not the father. Mrs Bennet seems to be the cause of lydia and kitty. what a shame?
tandiwe36 2 years ago 3
They are the result of Mrs. Bennet's loose rearing. She often promotes their flirtatious and riduclus actions. She brings it upon herself and is blind to their behavior. 'Tis a shame...
xcarriexsuexwho 2 years ago 8
At 7:40, doesn't she say "Oh Mr Bennet!" even though she's talking to one of the soldiers?
lissheim 2 years ago
she actually says, "Oh Mr. Denny"
killedbyAP 2 years ago
I like Charlotte's response in every version you see. Lizzie is clearly put in her place. Though she is a heroine and you do adore her, she is very full of her own self-importance, probably because she holds the place of her father's favorite. She sits by and watches her sisters act ridiculous and then acts oh so hurt when they are corrected. Perhaps if she had opened her mouth, they wouldn't be publically embarassed. And her behavior towards Charlotte is deplorable.
myhighlanddream 2 years ago 21
I 100% agree with you there myhighlanddream, and the ease in which she cast aside their childhood friendship was disgusting, obviously the arrogance coming out.
Thumbs up on your opinion there.
j0andc0 2 years ago 7
One of the reasons I love this story, the heroine isn't perfect :)
mrstilney 2 years ago 14
@myhighlanddream i think Lizzie is upset and angry because she thinks that Charlotte deserves love! Lizzie feels that Charlotte settled for stupid and embarrassing man
taragrundmanis 2 years ago 20
Did you notice how Kitty and Lydia are predominately either running, laughing or dancing? Such a hyper duo!
junejoyleng 2 years ago 18
won't Mr. Collins inherit Lucas lodge when Sir William Lucas dies because he also has no male heirs or will it go to another distant male cousin?
elemeno82002 2 years ago 3
Estates didn't always have to go to a male heir. For example, Mr. Collins said that Lady Catherine's daughter was going to inherit Rosings Park, presumably whether she marries or not.
RobinGal2010 2 years ago 3
actually in the book it is said that Charlotte has brothers. It is not said how many but it is implied that are a few.when everyone finds out that Charlotte is marrying mr. Collins is pa paragraph in the book, can't remember how it sounds exactly but it is something like " her sisters were happy that they could make their entrance in the society, and her brothers were happy that they will not have a spinster in the family"
aquanona 2 years ago 6
I think Charlotte might have brothers, though I can't be sure, could be wrong :)
mrstilney 2 years ago
In the book Sir Lucas has several younger male children, though I'm not sure if they're mentioned in the movie. I know they aren't mentioned in the 2005 version.
ThatGirlY0uL0ve 2 years ago 2
Is Crispin Bonham-Carter related to the woman who plays Bellatrix LeStrange and Mrs. Lovette? I forget her name, but I think it is Bonham Carter...
itachifan1243 2 years ago 3
yes they are cousins and her name is Helena Bonham-Carter
hikarisayuri 2 years ago
@itachifan1243 He is the cousin of Helena Bonham-Carter, yes.^^
Sturmwoelfin 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
boi in those times there were alot of "family times" and talking as a family boi...dangggggggg...dats all they did..lol..much different from today
sharletto15 2 years ago
I really dont like Mrs Bennet. She is almost as bad as Lydia and Kitty.
I mean just because Lizzy refused to marry Mr Collins she gets all upset and threatens to never see her again. Thats a little extreme.
romeonjuliet101 2 years ago 4
For Mrs.Bennet it isn''t :)
classicalgirl01 2 years ago 3
In that time Mr. Collins was a good catch. Not only would she be married a plus for women she would become mistress of the home she grew up in and saver her sisters when their father died.
speckels101 2 years ago 5
it seems that way but at that time marriage was the only option for most women. She honestly is looking out for her daughter just not in the right way. she isn't a vicious person
sweetartlv 2 years ago 4
very true. she wants the best for her daughters and wants them to be provided for, like every mother. but the silliness gets in the way of going about it with sense. (as a side note, perhaps silliness is hereditary? just look at Mrs. Bettet, Kitty, and Lydia lol.)
jepenner 2 years ago 4
The interpretation of Mrs Bennett as being 'silly' can be attributed to her birth into a family of a lower class. She would not have known the mores, and ettiquete of the 'superior' social circles. She wants only to see her daughters rise to a higher rung of society as she did...it is only her lack on manners and knowledge of the ways of society that are seen as silly. It is the actress in this case who overplays the character.
hiddenshadow080 2 years ago 3
oops, i meant Mrs. Bennet, sorry. can't spell. :)
jepenner 2 years ago
Just flirtation I think- Lydia seems to like all the officers.
Books951 2 years ago 2
I really LOVE Lizzy. This actress portrays her well.
Books951 2 years ago 3
does anyone watching this think that Lydia
likes Denny and he likes her back...Or is it
just a flirtation...
mlc0916 2 years ago 2
noing lydias charecter just flirtation
krizzy1997 2 years ago
Lydia would be such a slut in this day and age. I am almost positive of it.
wanderlust867 2 years ago 12
It wasn't back then, but I find that just like nowadays still, if you're related to someone even so far down the family tree, you're still referred to as cousin without the degree reference.
I like the actress who plays Jane in the 2005 version. she fits perfectly. But I LOVE this Lizzy, she's wonderful.
I've always hated Mrs. Bennett, no matter who plays her character. This version makes her even more terrible. So pretentious it's sickening!
iwannaseeamoose 2 years ago 10
and that's what makes her a good actress! ;)
ditzydee1 2 years ago 5
thats the point
cathartic555 2 years ago
idiot.that shows how gd an actress she is 2 play such a role.
cathartic555 2 years ago 4
well lizzzy is the main character so you choice means alot
stickitupyourasteric 2 years ago
I guess I didn't differentiate the topics very well, I'm well educated enough to know that that's what makes the actors and actresses good at what they do, what was more implied on my statement was Mrs. Bennet the fictionalized character herself. She irks me in the worst way.
iwannaseeamoose 2 years ago 2
isnt that man there cousin or something thats nasty
celestyboo123 2 years ago 2
Cousins marrying isn't really disgusting. There is enough genetic difference to make it so that there isn't really a problem. Until fairly recently (the last 75 or so years - maybe 100) marrying a cousin was acceptable for a lot of reasons: the family is known; wealth stayed in the family; sending a daughter off to marry a cousin was far more desirable than sending her off to strangers. Most cousins are extremely compatible (I don't mean sexually) for obvious reasons.
elynorah 2 years ago 8