elysia fuking rules and they stand up for what they fukin believ in and those who r constantly bullied. end of story they fukin rule and if u hav a problem with it than deal with it
nah this song is called filthy, its about whores pretty much, the song they have about peoples rights is called incinerate and its about gay rights, there new stuff just isnt them, kinda becuase they have a whole new line up besides vox im pretty sure =(
i listen to: Whitechapel between the buried and me despised icon Emmure napalm death insect warfare the locust carnifex comeback kid protest the hero spazz definetley not generic music buddy
everybody stop argueing holy shit. this band is not death metal and it doesnt sound like bring me the horizon. no insult in that. now can someone tell me what song this is?
i dont know why you guys compare suicide silence to elysia or vise-versa, i know i misspelled that word, but theyre both pretty fucking amazing. i just think its pointless if youre enjoying what youre hearing.
suicide silence is BULLSHIT, death metal my fucking ass, the only thing metal about them is their fucking metal claws. they don't care about anything but getting big and ating "brutal", fuck em
i know its filthy i was tellin someone earlier on who thought the end lyrics were "bitches in stitches" that theyre not thinking of the right song....
omfg the next person who says elysia is hxc i'm going 2 flip, they r metalcore, and the reason why they don't sound as good as in a studio is cuz it's being recorded on a fucking video camera, and not professionally, that's why it's so distorted
YOUR WRONG they don't sound the same because the vocals on the cd are dubbed over each other which makes it impossible to do at a live show. And there not "metalcore" there DEATHCORE!!!!!!
you are out of your mind dude. Im guessing youve never seen them or heard their EP then right? go find it and then come back and tell me what you think. unless you dont like metal period, in which case it wouldnt make sense for you to be here in the first place.
i think that elysia were really metal until i see them they look like emo or something like that whatever in studio sounds really great but live really sucks sorry but its the reallity
Are you fucking serious? Music isn't about the fashion, it's about the passion. Who cares how they dress? Their music's sick and brutal, so just leave it at that.
its good you got to this dood before I did. elysia is friggin amazing. I dont think they are too concerned with how they look. that just shows how little you know about hardcore.
okay so, from live videos i've gathered that zak's voice isn't too consistant. his screams are a lot higher, i think.
a few of my friends hung out and smoked up with zak up at their show in myerstown pa with styg and they said that he's really faggy, which i'm guessing meant he was pretty uptight. but you figure he's like 18, and is doing really well, his egos gotta be pretty ridiculous.
Look Elysia's recordings are amazing. but their stage prescence is horrible. They just have a good following.
and fyi my band has played with ELYSIA many times and the singer and guitarist are both seriously stuck up assholes, sorry to dissapoint, or offend you guys.
Seriously, you gotta know some people (like me) who really like Elysia are goint to comment back. Some may even downright attack you verbally. Please dont do that. And there (Elysia) not 13.
The reason the lead singer looks like a little bitch is because...he is. We went to the same high school and I have to tell you that if you could get this angry going to the school we did, you have a serious negativity issue.
Regardless of their age. They are amazing at their instruments n if u saw the crowd reaction they get when they r on stage u would know that they are the shit.
actually my band did tour, and released a cd. (myspace /bodybreak) but thats not important. Music isn't about who you are dude. Most of the best music will never be discovered. And I'm speaking as a listener...this band is half rate at best.
These guys aren't great...and they do look 12 if you didn't know better...and the lyrics? Talk about teen angst. The only good line is dig a ditch and bury the bitch, which is a rip off...their drummer sucks but apparently they got a new one? They are lot better live, and their new cd isn't half bad, but I saw them in the winter...and it wasn't good enough to keep me inside.
hah, you think these are bad? look up Knights of the Abyss, or worse yet Whitechapel - Vice Exciser. The lyrics are pretty brutal.. but they're the sickest shit.
yeh but whitechapel's lyrics are actually intelligent sounding. wtc is just gay, plus whitechapel is actually audible and actually plays their instruments lol
fuck! people like you are fuckin gay. Who cares whos better or who has more brutal lyrics, theyre all sick bands, just leave it at that. You trying to flex your death-core-musical-knowledge muscle is just making you sound like a poser faggot, so chill bud
ahah who uses the word poser. mm posers! and i wasnt saying any bands are bad, i just dont like when people dont know anything about death metal and call bands like elysia and stuff "brutal death metal". i mean i love elysia, im just saying they arent brutal death metal.
brutal is an opinion, but not the entire term brutal death metal. "brutal death metal" is a whole other genre of death metal, and i think its a shame that people try to shove elysia into that genre.
they wrote this at ages 14 and 15 and it still blows away scene music today :D
sonytamir 2 days ago
filthy is a sick song
jdaust57 1 year ago
elysia fuking rules and they stand up for what they fukin believ in and those who r constantly bullied. end of story they fukin rule and if u hav a problem with it than deal with it
Valwhora 1 year ago
I broke my nose at one of their shows! :D BRUTAL. but does anyone know what happened to them?
unknownxsiren 1 year ago
darn.. i loved their songs and stuff, and i thought the lead singer was a total badass, but hes just another skinny kid : ( still good music tho
xXxiLoveKaylaxXx 2 years ago
lots of vocalist are skinny
mike390g 2 years ago
man i wish they could play in stockton one more time
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dillonburial 2 years ago
what is there older albums and songs, i like the brutal lows and highs. the old elysia imo is the best.
MasterDucks 2 years ago
god i fuckin love elysia but every song is about killing his ex or burning something lol still elysia is sick
jusfruckinaround 2 years ago
Thats a lie. You don't know the lyrics.
VegasTravisAMV 2 years ago
KILL
NateRoyer15 2 years ago
FILTHY BITCH!! haha man good "OL" Elysia
RickyHORROR1990 2 years ago 3
definatly the most brutal sounding vocals iv ever herd
you can be lower and still not give the brutal feel he gives
rubenftdwr 2 years ago
fuck the new shit, i miss old elysia i saw them for my first time back when showcase was open :] R.I.P.... I loved them back in the day haha
shyskater4life 2 years ago
fuck you
rh117 2 years ago
i like how the singer is all chill and not jumping around all the time.
YLStunna 3 years ago
nah this song is called filthy, its about whores pretty much, the song they have about peoples rights is called incinerate and its about gay rights, there new stuff just isnt them, kinda becuase they have a whole new line up besides vox im pretty sure =(
InertiaInhale 3 years ago
no new lineup. the singer does all of it. thats why they dont tour no more, he recorded guitar bass drums etc.
imlee888 2 years ago
yea their new shit is sad lol
Ovaltine619 3 years ago
fuuck thats in chain reaction x3
when was that?
alexdinamite 3 years ago
This Song Is Called Filthy
dingyQLF 3 years ago
haha Elysia's a great fucking band you kikes. go back to your emo fucking scene music. your shits weak
royiscooldude 3 years ago 8
@royiscooldude kikes?j i support what u said but the vocalist zak vargas is jewish.
ShortGuyCinema 1 year ago
what song is this ??
fuckitirule 3 years ago
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yeah I know it's too bad though cause they aren't really a very good hardcore band
aliothblake 3 years ago
all i gotta say is as long as they keep singing about getting revenge on sluts that have no reason being alive ill still listen to them
misfitsmainiac 3 years ago
if you listen carefully the songs arent actually about that, theyre using them lyrics from an ironic point of view.
tokenfyp 3 years ago
yeah i dont exactly get the message of filthy. i heard it's about like women's rights or something
bitetobreakskin 3 years ago
ahahah I hear you there man
G0D666 3 years ago
What is with the 'Come the Night' shit?
I heard it, and it fucking sucks. It's like a pop song. All their other shit is amazing.
KR3WTerryKennedy 3 years ago
that isn't Elysia dumbass, that's some shitty irish band
misfitwarrior 3 years ago
ur dumb as a bitch this is them
Narutofan122 3 years ago
HAHAHA, OMFG
PLAYJUSTINPLAY 2 years ago
You're fucking retarded, learn who Elysia is before you make a statement like that.
KR3WTerryKennedy 3 years ago 2
fuck the lion of judas shit. masochist is so much more fuckin br00tal.
darkstar4125 3 years ago
wow die.
tokenfyp 3 years ago
Wow, this distortion is so insane, but it makes it that much more awesome.
Amazing.
EODleadguitar 3 years ago
all I can hope is that lions of judas was a one time experiment and they go back to this I love
dig a ditch!!
aliothblake 3 years ago
nah theyll stay in that sound man. it was a natural progression, theyve always wanted to be a hardcore band and loved hardcore bands haha.
hence why they mainly tour with hardcore bands n such.
tokenfyp 3 years ago
I have heard from alot of people they are like crashing down and they sing about gay pride shit now.
BrutalXGrayson 3 years ago
the only anti-homophobic song they have is incinerate. and that is not one of their new songs.
Niiroids 3 years ago 4
I think they wrote Incinerate back when Zak was like 14? So like 5 or 6 years ago. They've been pretty anti-homophobic for a while.
Filthy is on the EP and album as Incinerate.
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almaram 3 years ago
i cant wait for july 31 when these guys come to seattle
imganster07 3 years ago
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the singer needs to leave...
openyourneck 3 years ago
Lmao Thats my name, i can't beleive such a sweet band shares it woop
xIndeterminate 3 years ago
this is wak.. i love elysia and all..
but they play better in SA son!!!
its all about the TxHc!!
theojoe81 3 years ago
i know man!
dannyboystu 3 years ago
that us the goofiest way ive ever seen a 6 piece drum set be set up
and the snare sounds like ass
jondabitch12 3 years ago
umm...they're actually not from malibu.
they're from sacramento.
i've seen them three times and they've been sick every time.
they'll never get old to me.
XthecoolioX 3 years ago
omg i just heard elysia's new song on their myspace and it totally blows, seriously they suck now
StzaCrizzack 3 years ago
no they dont suck theyre just starting to become unique and stand out
thomasj12e34 3 years ago
no dude seriously who wants a "unique' deathcore band, seriously who gives a fuck?
gimme pig squeels, double bass, and a breakdown and im good!
:-)
StzaCrizzack 3 years ago
Agreed
Immadleet 3 years ago
yeah, i bet u like jfac. just plain ass, generic bullshitcore. that's the type of thinking that makes this scene so damn stagnant.
541core 3 years ago 2
StzaCrizzack 3 years ago
Yeah it's crazy, they use to be so good. I heard their new stuff too. Hmm, I wonder what happened.
AbusiveAbuser 3 years ago
they relized songs that r just breakdown suck fat dick. thats what happened.
alucardgrindcore 3 years ago
A bunch of skinny white kids from malibu doesnt scream out hardcore to me
Airhendrix1990 3 years ago
malibu? sacramento?
southparklord 3 years ago
anaheim:]
stevensuffokate714 3 years ago
thats where the show is
stevensuffokate714 3 years ago
everybody stop argueing holy shit. this band is not death metal and it doesnt sound like bring me the horizon. no insult in that. now can someone tell me what song this is?
MetalCore757 3 years ago
sure bud.
filthy.
the first version they made
sgpone 3 years ago
BRING ME THE HORIZON AND ELYSIA?!
THE SAME? dude's trippin like a mahfucka.
DOxWORK 3 years ago
jimmycool im gunna crush your fuckin' skull elysia sounds nothing like bring me the horizion you wannabe fuck. get fucked.
antdog44 3 years ago 3
uhh okay dumb fuck i was talking about them as underage kids and how all the scene kids love them.
jimmycool 3 years ago
this band has no musical talent. their just a american verison of Bring Me The Horizon minus all the tattoos and scene hair.
jimmycool 3 years ago
haha my name is elysia and I LOVE this song, although it is a little fuzzy in the video
pikles9 4 years ago
Suicide Silence And Carnifex a both great and classic1
RWerle 4 years ago 2
i dont know why you guys compare suicide silence to elysia or vise-versa, i know i misspelled that word, but theyre both pretty fucking amazing. i just think its pointless if youre enjoying what youre hearing.
irockursoxoff 4 years ago
this is fucking mazing dude this fucking owns man 1!!!!
chrisalmostsk8 4 years ago
is this Filthy (the Song they made)
sk8bakerboards009 4 years ago
why do people search this band if they think its shit, and suicide silence, is LEGENDARY you fuckers.
xmadgabx 4 years ago
suicide silence is BULLSHIT, death metal my fucking ass, the only thing metal about them is their fucking metal claws. they don't care about anything but getting big and ating "brutal", fuck em
walletCRACKED 4 years ago
what band doesnt?
rck892 4 years ago 2
DIG THE DITCH..AND BURY THE BITCH! sickest breakdown!
puddingislikeaheaven 4 years ago 5
its bitches get stitches
PowerInnFilms 4 years ago
no its defintly dig a ditch and bury the bitch.
deff.
dont fuck with the 916 niggas.
Blazenhugejs 4 years ago
its dig a ditch and bury the bitch you dumb fuck. haha
1337mikev 4 years ago
wrong song bro haha.
pkmieck08 3 years ago
No... this is Filthy.
xSPLENDAx 3 years ago
i know its filthy i was tellin someone earlier on who thought the end lyrics were "bitches in stitches" that theyre not thinking of the right song....
pkmieck08 3 years ago
Oh. haha. Well what song is that?
xSPLENDAx 3 years ago
i dont care what they are.
they are shit compared to Suicide Silence
judasiscariot3 4 years ago
Suicide Silence is a bunch of pussy ass little faggots
shnerpler 4 years ago
fuck SS they are a bunch of carnifex rip-offs
StzaCrizzack 4 years ago
SS has been around longer than carnifex
oinkoink36 4 years ago 2
lmao yes.
TomSSBAB 4 years ago
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is that supposed to be some type of joke? Suicide Silence is pure garbage. So is this band.
seemyexkurrrzun 4 years ago
they are both fucking amazing
so stfu
cfdinosaur 4 years ago 5
Fuck yeah there both sweet!
fuckingmetal188 4 years ago 3
too goodd... his lyrics are so bangin
fgb729 4 years ago
they are kool
but how do you say there name?
ajsg13 4 years ago
e-lis-ee-uh
cfdinosaur 4 years ago
wow i always thought they had two vocalists. im impressed.
gerardskeet 4 years ago
haha dyeasbdie vvvv
anyone below me who has contirbuted to this video with any comments whatsoever is a plague on society and a complete faggot
channelsurfer77 4 years ago
godammit.l.
iv;e seen this band live three.
time's and they fucking kick ass..
and it's not meal core or hxc..
it's
HARDCORE DEATH METAL
Jessiesk8 4 years ago
lol dude calm down... its deathcore
StzaCrizzack 4 years ago
thank god people cleared up what genre they are... dont want to mislabel them on my itunes.......faggots
dyeasbdie 4 years ago
I dont give 2 dicks what you say they are. They're music is freaking awesome and those guys are REALLY young. Imagine in a few years...
Stupid people arguing "ITS METALCORE! NO ITS HXC!" stfu and just enjoy it!
skateanddestroy13 4 years ago
omfg the next person who says elysia is hxc i'm going 2 flip, they r metalcore, and the reason why they don't sound as good as in a studio is cuz it's being recorded on a fucking video camera, and not professionally, that's why it's so distorted
berazzledazzling 4 years ago
YOUR WRONG they don't sound the same because the vocals on the cd are dubbed over each other which makes it impossible to do at a live show. And there not "metalcore" there DEATHCORE!!!!!!
screamo9 4 years ago
yea. it's deathcore bud.
timmoore2 4 years ago
deathcore ASSHOLE!
StzaCrizzack 4 years ago
its only because the singer was like a chaing smoker or something (dunno the details)
but he cant maintin his scream for that long, so he has other people do it :-P
mandatorysilence 4 years ago
that being said just cause he cant maintain his screams for long dosnt me hes not nuts at deep vocals and pig squeels
wonkachocolate69 4 years ago
elysia is fuckin amasing livee
wonkachocolate69 4 years ago
not rly they let the crowd sing 2 much
jfish2566 4 years ago 2
amazing bands
the lyrics are fucking awesome too
nevertechshipwreck 4 years ago 3
you guys rock
KyleDRI 4 years ago
a good vocalist?
zakk is fucking kick-ass!
jershiswayHxC 4 years ago
zakk is a good vocalist
DuesExLocust 4 years ago
i seen them on the 19th at chain reaction of i think october
RyranasaurusTex 4 years ago
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jesus fucking terrible
kurtcovana94 4 years ago
you are out of your mind dude. Im guessing youve never seen them or heard their EP then right? go find it and then come back and tell me what you think. unless you dont like metal period, in which case it wouldnt make sense for you to be here in the first place.
harveydeadman 4 years ago
i love zak so much.
the last time i saw them play,
i was sitting on the stage and he was
standing behind me and then everyone
started jumping on me so i hugged his leg.
it was great.
:D
xtanyaislonely 4 years ago
i think that elysia were really metal until i see them they look like emo or something like that whatever in studio sounds really great but live really sucks sorry but its the reallity
abantum 4 years ago
Are you fucking serious? Music isn't about the fashion, it's about the passion. Who cares how they dress? Their music's sick and brutal, so just leave it at that.
normaXjean 4 years ago
its good you got to this dood before I did. elysia is friggin amazing. I dont think they are too concerned with how they look. that just shows how little you know about hardcore.
harveydeadman 4 years ago
amazing
plasticheartsxx 4 years ago 2
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Elysia sucks, seriously, you should all fuck off.
MontanaDeathTrip 4 years ago
yo you seen my dick i think i lost it in montanadeathtrips huge gaping pussy
fakestofallfakes 4 years ago
no joke.
seriously, you're all kidding yourselves
kurtcovana94 4 years ago
yeah zak dig a ditch and bury the bitch! stay br00tal.
ledzeppfan14 4 years ago
yo i just saw them two nights ago in toronto and they were so fukn amazing there was so much fukn energy it was sick
braaappppass 4 years ago
okay so, from live videos i've gathered that zak's voice isn't too consistant. his screams are a lot higher, i think.
a few of my friends hung out and smoked up with zak up at their show in myerstown pa with styg and they said that he's really faggy, which i'm guessing meant he was pretty uptight. but you figure he's like 18, and is doing really well, his egos gotta be pretty ridiculous.
xblackholesun 4 years ago
blizzard eyes... who wouldnt be a "stuck up asshole" if everywhere you went some one was treating you like a god, go fuck yourself...
zakelysia 4 years ago 3
i always thought it was tear up that bitch rip that fucking slut and zak kicks all ur pussy asses
jfish2566 4 years ago
Look Elysia's recordings are amazing. but their stage prescence is horrible. They just have a good following.
and fyi my band has played with ELYSIA many times and the singer and guitarist are both seriously stuck up assholes, sorry to dissapoint, or offend you guys.
but yeah the only chill one is the drummer.
Blizzard3yes 4 years ago
dont hate cause youre probably a fat sack of lard shit.
tyleranufrijevas 4 years ago
wow.
this is so lame, i USED to like elysia, but seeing them - they look like like little 13 year old fucking posers.
they need a better image?
& they arent so good live.
smiileyyx 4 years ago
smiileyyx, please dont leave gay comments.
Seriously, you gotta know some people (like me) who really like Elysia are goint to comment back. Some may even downright attack you verbally. Please dont do that. And there (Elysia) not 13.
thegreenishcrab 4 years ago
Its just the Vocalist is really skinny and kinda looks like he may be an ass is all. Im pretty sure hes not though
thegreenishcrab 4 years ago
the lead singer, is fucking tall but lanky, but it dont matter nothing matters about size in hardcore =D
jonking93 4 years ago
i just got back from seeing em. the fucking singer is def not a little bitch. it feels like ur looking into satan's eyes when hes screaming haha
sora715 4 years ago
tear at her flesh, rip that fuccccking slut
<33
x0xbrendonx0x 4 years ago
that is what you call.....FUCKING MOTIVATING!!!
does the singer go to San Clemente High?
thegreenishcrab 4 years ago
sounds like shitttttt......
they sound good live though i seen these hoes before. ahah
zeroxxxask 4 years ago
Dig A Ditch and Bury That Bitch...Ahhh I fuckin love it.
TeamPoser101 4 years ago
The reason the lead singer looks like a little bitch is because...he is. We went to the same high school and I have to tell you that if you could get this angry going to the school we did, you have a serious negativity issue.
kongenavnorge56 4 years ago
yeah... but he's a tall motherfucker. haha
BBQZombies1 4 years ago
id poop in your ear
dyeasbdie 4 years ago
yea i'd fart in your face....
freakyblackman 4 years ago
no offense to the lead singer but he looks like a little bitch...id def fart in his face.....good music tho
dyeasbdie 4 years ago
Dig a Ditch!!! And Bury the Bitch!!!
emericakid411 4 years ago
Regardless of their age. They are amazing at their instruments n if u saw the crowd reaction they get when they r on stage u would know that they are the shit.
xtheywillperishx 4 years ago
actually my band did tour, and released a cd. (myspace /bodybreak) but thats not important. Music isn't about who you are dude. Most of the best music will never be discovered. And I'm speaking as a listener...this band is half rate at best.
sjcarruthers 4 years ago
well they might look young considering they've just recently finished high school? or are still in it?
mikexk 4 years ago
These guys aren't great...and they do look 12 if you didn't know better...and the lyrics? Talk about teen angst. The only good line is dig a ditch and bury the bitch, which is a rip off...their drummer sucks but apparently they got a new one? They are lot better live, and their new cd isn't half bad, but I saw them in the winter...and it wasn't good enough to keep me inside.
sjcarruthers 4 years ago
hahahaha lets see your band that has a cd out and is touring the country.... right right?
yeah shut the fuck up.
KUNTAxKINTE 4 years ago
Fuck the haters, long live Elysia!
boredominsurance 4 years ago
Knights of the Abyss fuckin sucks
i saw the other night with elysia
elysia blew em out of the venue
GhettoScene 4 years ago
dude elysia is way more brutal than knights even tho theyre brutal, but the lyrics are way better than knights
stanley228 4 years ago
seriously..thes guys r da shit..but where can i find da lyrics???
jdakid162 4 years ago
These lyrics are demonic.seriously
Yoyolova 4 years ago
hah, you think these are bad? look up Knights of the Abyss, or worse yet Whitechapel - Vice Exciser. The lyrics are pretty brutal.. but they're the sickest shit.
saidxthexgun 4 years ago
knights of the abyss and whitechapel are nothing when it comes to brutal death metal
theyre new trying to sound overly gorey death metal. true brutal death metal lyrics are like 128397189723x worse
walletCRACKED 4 years ago
eh whitechapel's are fairly fouled up, nothing compared to waking the cadaver though. That shit is fucked up.
saidxthexgun 4 years ago
yeh but whitechapel's lyrics are actually intelligent sounding. wtc is just gay, plus whitechapel is actually audible and actually plays their instruments lol
MrMatthewsToYou 4 years ago
i wouldn't say their lyrics are exactly intelligent but they're pretty brutal.
AJM212006 4 years ago
thier vocabulary is intelligent*
MrMatthewsToYou 4 years ago
fuck! people like you are fuckin gay. Who cares whos better or who has more brutal lyrics, theyre all sick bands, just leave it at that. You trying to flex your death-core-musical-knowledge muscle is just making you sound like a poser faggot, so chill bud
streetvillain666 4 years ago 2
ahah who uses the word poser. mm posers! and i wasnt saying any bands are bad, i just dont like when people dont know anything about death metal and call bands like elysia and stuff "brutal death metal". i mean i love elysia, im just saying they arent brutal death metal.
walletCRACKED 4 years ago
who cares if i said poser? and who are yu to dictate who knows what about death metal?
and who are you to say theyre not brutal? its your opinion, so keep it to yourself, big mouth.
streetvillain666 4 years ago 2
ooh big mouth, you're a real bully, where'd you get that one the toilet store?
pikles9 4 years ago
Wow, you're obviously gay.
xredweddingx 3 years ago
you're obviously stupid, i don't know how anyuone took that but i am with
streetvillan666 but i'm just sayin, big mouth was a stupid comback
pikles9 3 years ago
brutal is an opinion, but not the entire term brutal death metal. "brutal death metal" is a whole other genre of death metal, and i think its a shame that people try to shove elysia into that genre.
walletCRACKED 3 years ago
no there is no such genre of brutal death metal...
Nuk513 3 years ago
uh ya there is. devourement is brutal death metal look them up.
MetalCore757 3 years ago
thats not brutal death metal...thats deathmetal/deathcore/grind...
Nuk513 3 years ago
devourment would have probably just cummed on your face right now for calling them any type of "core" lolololol
walletCRACKED 3 years ago
didnt listen to the whole song w/e grind/deathmetal then
Nuk513 3 years ago