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  • She is so fantistic! Can She perform or what! After the third or fourth encore the audience is still cheering. Love You Valentina. Will get the London Performance the first chance I get. Later Dan

  • ending is perfect

  • Am I the only one more fascinated by Chopin's composition than Valentina's playing? xD Regardless, fantastic interpretation!

  • I wanted to start learning this peace. I thought that the easiest way to play this is using first finger (thumb) all the time. But, you can't play legato this way. I tried to play this by using the original finger order, and it seemed more difficult. I've tried it few times, and now I can play with the original finger order. This isn't so hard for me, it suits my technique. I'm so proud to learn such a wonderful peace..^^

  • a beautiful or awful piece depending how it is played and it is played wonderfully

  • I think in a way, this is kind of like the Chopin Etude version of Liszt's Transcendental etude no. 5 Fuex Follets!!!

  • @trp8155 far from it sir

  • @TheRiskyBoxSpread Oh I know. I just thought it was similar because the double note passages. But of course Feux Follets is a bajillion times harder.

  • @trp8155 Well.. Chopin stated that Etude Op. 10 is dedicated to Franz Liszt, if I have not mistaken...

  • @WinterLites He did. The entire Opus 10 was.

  • Chopin has created so many cool, original sounds with his etudes.

  • Oh look she's sleeping in this etude too... She's that good :L

  • masterpiece

  • this is cool but i think Etude No. 1 in C is a lot harder to play...

  • This is a really bizarre-sounding piece -- it's a very "choppy" sound.

  • @ZachEatonMusic LOL, "Choppy" Chopin! :D

  • She must be a grade 1....................hundred

  • @littleasshole26 funny

  • @littleasshole26 funny

  • playing this etude makes me want to puke, I can't get over how fucking weird the righthand movements feel.

  • @puddingpimp especially when your arm/hand starts to burn and it isn't relaxed and ya don't take it slow at first lol. XD

  • @puddingpimp i agree dude, it was very awkward feeling but eventually i got used to it...

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  • The Chopin etudes are so unique and original! I've heard them so many times and they still seem new to me :)

  • who says that a "lots of practice" is an easy thing dear Idailey06?

  • @atanasios He said easier than u think. im assuming he meant its not impossible.

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  • the memory part aside, I've heard some pianists say this is the hardest of all Chopin's etudes.

  • @hymntonight That's surprising. I think this is one of the easier etudes, it's not so hard when your hand adjusts to the at first quite awkward and rapid movements.

  • @hymntonight lol.

  • for me its hard to learn one piece... imagine memorize all 24 etudes... i dont think i'll ever be a concert pianist.. haha..

  • For you muscle memory folks, try this... place your thumb and second finger on C (two fingers on the same key, it's also called the two finger etude), your third finger on D and your pinky on the B natural above the two. Hold that for a while. That's measure 29. Valentina gets my respect.

  • Chopin hatte derart moderne, geniale Einfälle. Und da stirbt mir das Arsch unter den Händen mit 39 wech ...

  • can't believe this is an etude..haha

  • the very end, is it me or were those low c's out of tune? otherwise it was beautifully done, yay..

  • its brilliant i dont get why people are saying "its just muscle memory" etc, might aswell say well shes just using human arms... lets not forget how beatutifully she played it and how dedicated she has been to the piano.

  • To me the etudes seems more like finger training than pieces made for listening.

    Even though they sound fantastic:)

  • @slobo1987 you're right!! It sounds like czerny on steroids!!!

  • @slobo1987 Indeed, most Chopin is like that.

  • i wish she'd play the sets of these etudes in inversion and some others...the originals are kinda easy...but it's nice playing :)

  • I'd say her parents re real proud of he! :)

  • @MusicClassical1

    haha! "he" :P

  • It's interesting how my opinions have changed after a year of listening these etudes. At first I loved the usual favorites: op. 10 no: 4,5 and 12 and op 12 no: 11 and 12. But recently I've grown into loving these bit "strange" etudes the most.. like this one and others ie. op 12 no. 4

  • @belegSJ Yeah! At first I thought that too... Especially this Etude. The intro seems somewhat a rush or something. But I had seen the beauty @0.23 and now I like it LOL!

  • The study of large intervals, touch and contrasting harmony, welll played!!

  • OMG...I ove you!!!!

  • marry me

  • Awesome! TY.

  • This is proof that there is talent out there in the universe. Speaking of which, when you here this, think of million stars and the wide expanse of the universe. It reminds me of an ELO song.

  • this one makes me think of super mario for some reason haha

  • best version on youtube. great playing.

  • @JHighland1 pretty much everything she plays is the best version on youtube, lol

  • @bluntmasterflash This MIGHT be the best version on youtube, but it's definitely not the BEST version even though she makes it look easy and it's clean.

  • @Grigor99 I agree. Yours will definitely be the best version though I've never actually heard it but you seem to definitely know what your talking about, or at least I think you do.

  • @bluntmasterflash Not really..but she's good..very good.

  • I'm working on this right now!! LOL

  • This is an incredible recording of this Chopin etude.

    Also, Gould told everyone that he didn't need to play the piano to practice. I don't know if I believe it because I do think that muscle memory is super important, but maybe it isn't. Maybe some people can just memorize a song and then play it without ever having played it.

  • @davidthemagnet The point is, when you imagine playing the piano, it actually works the same parts of the brain as when you really play. There was an article on this in the journal of neuroscience. I can try to find it-

    Either way, at his level, you are able to "read" a piece, think of playing it enough, and eventually be able to play it...but not something like Prok 2 :P

  • @itsanthonyhere yeahh, i think something similar with my old piano teacher was that he was able to play a tonne of repertoire as a result of teaching it to other students, yet at the same time, he has never practiced or sat down to learn these pieces. Just looking at the music and teaching it was enough to learn the piece from a non-physical perspective.

  • can't a person still practice it but just not on a piano?? like couldn't he just play it in the air or something???

  • @l00kxitsxpiax Of course

  • @davidthemagnet some people have such inherent muscle memory that that can play a piece of music maybe a few times and can easily recall it thereafter.

  • Muscle memory certainly helps with notes and fingerings, however expression is obviously the mind...and as someone said before if you make a slip it is the mind that will get you back on track, which is the reason most pianists have the score in their head when they perform pieces from memory. Going slightly OT...there are conductors who memorize orchestral scores to conduct...there is no muscle memory there.

  • I am playing this etüde and I can tell that if you can't memorize something in this etüde (and in many many other cases), it doesn't help to try to remember it, by picturing the score in your head. You muscles have to learn it. Physiological research has demonstrated, that when playing and memorizing a piece, muscle-memory stands for 90% of the memorizingprocess..

  • As a consequence of this, if your muscles doesn't learn where to use more less power, and weight, and how to articulate differently, and so on, in order to make the piece interesting (and preventing it from sounding like a piano-student just handling the technical difficulties), it doesn't matter if you have the musical idea in your head.. Your muscles need to learn first.

  • @analka1 They don't remember each and every note separately, they subdivide the work into processable chunks, as in "Here come the 8 bars where the violins take the lead".

  • Your smile really brightens my day!:D

  • Valentina, perfeita, divina!!!

  • There is probably some unconscious alterations to the "muscle memory" that affect the outcome of the performance. Machines can be programed to output the notes in the same order but something (in current technologies) often gets lost.

  • I agree.

  • Ah, the toccata etude. Lisitsa performs this flawlessly, clean, melody clear, Perfect dynamics, balance, and articulation. Great performance

  • I don't know what happened to my previous post, well here it goes again:

    As far as I know, the cerebelum, one of the primitive parts of our brain, is responsible to gather all "important information" to memorize notes, pedals and dynamics, and also the muscles, fingers and feet the body must use to performance. And of course, the more you practice, the more you improve, because your cerebelum will gather more information. That's why Valentina plays anything flawlessly.

  • I never knew about that! That's very interesting to know! :)

  • Well, body, soul and spirit would have to be inseparably synergizing to interpret Chopin the way this artist does! It's obvious there's much more than chemistry and programing at work here! Can you hear or feel it?

  • I believe you are right. But I also seem to recall that learned skills start out as very conscious (i.e. a product of the neocortex) and as practiced it's taken over by "lower" levels of the the brain. This is why you can often drive a familiar route and not remember it because every turn in the road and even responses to other traffic starts falling below the level of conscious thought. First you master the basics, then you can use emotional interpretation to perfect the expression.

  • But only her passion and emotion make the music so beautiful.

    Congratulations again Valentina :)

  • As far as I know, the cerebelum, one of the most primitive parts in our brain, is responsible for memorize pieces, as long as someone spend time practing the cerebelum gathers all "important info" to memorize the notes, pedals and even dynamics and which muscles, fingers and feet the body needs to use during the performance. Considering that Valentina is a genius and practices a lot, her cerebelum has already gathered all required info to memorize and play the piece.

  • when you memorize a text, you don't memorize each letter, you memorize words, and sentences, and senses, same thing for music : learn musical theory, only instrument is not enough !!!! it's exactly like a language, except that you use your fingers instead of your tongue / vocal strings / lips

  • uhhh

  • But doesn't a person use both concepts of memory when playing a piano? Brain and muscle work hand in hand in either scenario. aldebussy is right in saying our muscles don't think. But then again, our brains cannot play the notes on the piano either. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong (because then we would have a pointless argument on our hands), I was just inputting my thoughts on the idea.

  • Best performance I've ever heard of this, hands down. Brilliant.

  • exquisite!!

  • well, I think too that muscle memory is the best memory, because remembering like 100 numbers is very hard but remembering 100 notes that you play is more easy

  • not all professional pianist can play all the 24 etude by chopin. she is fantastic as she can play everything!

  • This makes me think of thousands of rabbits

  • Best comment ever !

  • HAHa omg once u said that haha

    ahh there stuck in my head xD

  • @hwcreatureha ..Wonder if she thimks the same 

  • @hwcreatureha LOL *thumbs up*!

  • @hwcreatureha YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!

  • @hwcreatureha HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You just put a hilarious image in my head.

  • How did she remember that off by heart? Or the hundreds of other songs she can play? She is incredible.

  • well, she is a sort of genius, she went as a child to a school for talented childeren. I think she has a fotografic memory :P

  • it has nothing to do with fotografic memory ;) i guess it's (among others )about touch memory

  • its easier than you think, with lots of practice its all muscle memory

  • yeah, u get to the point where, if you do screw up, you don't even look at the notes to figure it out, because you've forgotten them lol. kind of a bad habit tho

  • You're muscle memory is actually the best memory you have. Doesn't always feel that way, but just imagine that you'd have to try to remember each morning how to walk or stand up. Or how to speak or write. Of course language is being controlled by a different part of your brain, but the actual speaking and writing is done by muscles.

    It's your best memory, you just need to know how to use it and once you get that under control, it's easy to learn a piece by heart. =)

  • I have done a big research on musical memory and belive me - muscle memory isnt the best and far not the only one. I can learn a piece without a piano(just look into the notes) and play it from beginning to the end. Is that muscle? Nope. Youtube isnt the place to talk long about it. But You are wrong

  • And what about the Tempo?If you learn this etude without a piano will you be then able to play it in tempo?YouTube is a good place to talk about that,it is a big community but a video with your ideas is always welcome!!

  • Lol then, you can make a song to help you remember 100000 digits of pi (3.141...) by making each note a digit, so while you play piano, you start reciting digits of pi and people think you are some prodigy. That would be cool!

  • How can we distinguish between our muscles and our mind? We cannot train our minds to perform better. In fact our muscles are our mind - the 'act' of thinking. Clearly the pianist here is expressing her love of music, which is an accumulated performance of note reading, action, technique, interpretation, etc. It is ridiculous to say her brain has memorized the music. Instead we are seeing her mind as the interpretative act of making music.

  • To me there is a very clear distinction between knowing a piece with my mind vs. with my muscles: I will always know it much better if I am able to have the whole piece in my mind rather than following reflex as my muscles 'remember' what the notes are.

  • in her interview, lisitsa said she was using muscle memory to remember the pieces... i hope u are not judging her...

  • I'm sure if you search on youtube for "A wonderful encounter with valentina lisitsa" there is a video in which she states that all of her playing is done from muscle memory; her hands just fall into the correct places without having to think.

  • in my opinion, you memorize with both. In concerts, its my muscies doing the playing while my head is thinking about hoe to play the piece emotionally. And i disagree that muscles forget and cannot remember. If i played a piece before, i can blank my mind and my hands start playing it.

  • @ldailey06 no, it also takes much concentration otherwise it comes across bland and half-assed.

  • @ldailey06

    Yeah, easy like in Olympic caliber gymnastics is mere muscle memory. Just practice lots and lots and, voila, you're an Olympic level gymnast.

  • @ldailey06 yea, but thats just the mechanical part of it. this girl brings the music a presence, sensitivity and feeling that is outstanding!

  • @ldailey06 If you're just playing it yes, but like everything else, it's a lot harder to play them well.

  • @ldailey06 same as for all etudes. just lots of practice, dedication and time.

  • @ldailey06 being able to play it is one thing...performing is another :)

  • Can somebody tell me what this etude means? I don't understand what it conveys.

  • a bunch of woodland animals coming out and dancing in the moonlight.

  • oh my god MagicDolphinGO you made me laugh

  • oh my god hahahahahahaha

  • its a study of "light touch" or tocatta.

  • I've also heard that it's a song designed to teach a specific physical technique but still be musical. Look up the song Echo Etude, by a guitarist named Yngwie Malmsteen

  • WOW....incredible!!

  • Omg i'd never be able to play this :S. Maybe you can play it in this tempo for a while, but its very tireing too.

  • O_____O That was amazing!

  • If you think she is amazing... imagine the composer...

  • I can't believe I have never heard this piece before

  • Not only is she beautiful, she's one HELL of a pianist! Perfectly executed rendition! Keep it up :D

  • you have to love a beautiful piano player

  • How many brains does she has???

    that's amazing...

  • Brilliant!! I can never believe how this study doesn't get more exposure! I think it's amazing and dream of playing it one day :-)

  • Because not many can play this etude quite as beautifully as she does. :)

  • nice!!!!!!!!

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