Debunked: Un-Debunkable Moon Hoax Proof - Moon Atmosphere

[piskekvist]

lol seems to me they just proved you can fake it all...

[denominator7]

I don't see Cary Grant anywhere ?????? what the....??

[timrocket2008]

Pause it @ 0:08 and look how easy it is to fake the moon landing images. No Stars! lol

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

i see 2 stars

[timrocket2008]

@StraydogO2 You mean the television stars. But look how easy it is to fool people like you. Simple minded fools make up 80% of the population in the USA and similar percentages in all countries.

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

"television stars"

what has oprah has to do with it

[tvsinesperanto]

@timrocket2008 Seriously, the lack of scientific literacy amongst the general public is truly frightening.

I heard today that the US education system ranks 21st in Science (& 25th in Maths). Considering I'm in Australia, which ranks 4th, & the level of scientific awareness even here is atrocious, I hate to think what it must be like in the US.

It's no wonder that so many of these moon landing conspiracy theories originate in the US.

[st4ticblu3]

@tvsinesperanto Your political and demographic lieracy seems to reflects the values of your nations scientific literacy. You are ingnoring all factors in these statistics and taking them for face value. Do you even care where these statistics come from, how the came to these conclusion or the differences in the nations they take these statistics from.

"No wonder so many of these moon landing conspiracy threories originate in the U.S." Where did you get that stat? lol

[timrocket2008]

They used a Chick Feather because the Falcon Feather drops like a rock on Earth. It does the same exact thing on Earth as it did in the video of Supposedly being on the Moon.

If you believe that was really filmed on the Moon then you will believe anything.

[StraydogO2]

@timhasarocketinhisass

hahahahahahaha



[JamesThWilliams]

@timrocket2008

Falcon feathers though they drop faster than chicken feathers do not drop like a rock. You are a total idiot. 

[timrocket2008]

I love how their compressor used to suck out the air from thier chamber is powerful enough yet if it were powerful enough to equal that of the Moon, that chamber would collapse. There is still plenty of air inside that chamber. Its just so fictional.

[timrocket2008]

I dropped a falcon feather and a Hammer and it hits the ground at the same time.

Explain to me why they used a tiny chick feather instead of a falcon feather.

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

i shot a hoaxtard and a dumbass and they died at the same time

idiot

[timrocket2008]

@StraydogO2 Just mad cause you can't figure it out.

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

just a hoaxtard cause you don't understand engineering

[timrocket2008]

@StraydogO2 Explain to me what engineering you understand that I don't knucklehead. Give it your best shot.

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

so youre asking me to talk about engineering at a nutcase that has a subscribtion on a dead channel and has "Newtons law defied" in his favorites? lol

[timrocket2008]

@StraydogO2 Excuses excuses excuses. You are NOT an engineer so just shut up retard.

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

no problem timmy

you are NOT a retard so shut up hoaxtard

[timrocket2008]

@StraydogO2 You are immature. 

[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

and you are a genius



[StraydogO2]

@timrocket2008

try to understand this anime of newton hoaxhead

watch?v=iH48Lc7wq0U&feature=re­lated



[timrocket2008]

"Google satellite photos" are cheesy dude. Google Earth is cheesy.

They have satellite imagery capabilities to read the year of off a dime laying on the ground.

Google doesn't have that. Thats Military stuff.

If they wanted to they could launch a satellite in Moon orbit and take pictures of every inch of that globe but if they did that, they would be "shooting them selves in the foot"

[timrocket2008]

@obaeyens This video is bogus just like all of MB Moon hoax debunks. Take a look at the feather they use. A feather from a Chick? While "On the Moon" they used a Falcon Feather! A falcon feather drops like a Rock. It drops at the same speed as the Hammer on Earth!

[kalloused]

@timrocket2008 No it doesn't fall at the same rate.

[timrocket2008]

@kalloused Ok whats the rate then?

[bucktheusa]

BTW: Why don't we just all pitch in together and build the first remote operated lunar rover and take close up shots of the Sea of Tranquility.

I doubt they can send someone there to hurry and and stamp footprints around and stick a flag in the ground.

On the otherhand, if we can take Google satellite photos and see out car- why can't we just shoot one into orbit around the moon with a higher res camera and see for ourselves.

Should also be other space junk and lunar rover jeep thing there.

[CrissLeto]

@bucktheusa

That would be because the close-up pictures we see on Google Earth are taken by airplanes, which are way, way, WAY closer to Earth than satellites.

[janandmats]

your "Google satellite photos" showing your car are actually taken by aircraft. Google earth uses satellite imagery to a certain point, when you zoom in its photos taken from aircraft. fact.

[bucktheusa]

Another lame observation is the asian guy is sitting down on the left when she does the drop.

Then when she pulls away to celebrate the asian dude is standing up and is magically on the left and the other dude is now on the right.

My guess is they just pose these people around wherever they want and cook up supposed footage later.

Chris Angel is more believable than these nitwits!

[bucktheusa]

What no one ever mentions is the fact that at 2:34 the feather actually bounces. It's obviously not the same feather as the first since you can see the first is much thinner and maybe even slightly translucent. The second looks like a second grader glued together two feathers over a fifty cent piece folded up in notebook paper in the middle.

It's so laughable..but sad.

I had respect for this crew until they started this crap and making household hacker junk that is not even supposed to work.

[obaeyens]

@bucktheusa

Of course it bounces! There is no air to dampen the speed.

And why don't you create a video with one feather and a second one with you double feather and show actual proof that it can be faked like that?

[gilligan80]

just because someone says..."in my left hand is a feather" doesnt fucking mean hes holding a feather... i mean if their integrity is what is truly in question... why should him dropping what he SAYS is a feather change our minds... also... i would like people to watch the portion of the video where he drops the hammer and feather... keep watching it over and over... as he raises the hammer (just for an instant) you can see a lanyard on the handle of the hammer...not kidding

[guydecervens]

Exactly. And what other strings/springs had the moon hoaxers used for the hammer-feather experiment 'on the moon'? Plus nobody was twisting the flag pole 'on the moon' when it fluttered. Let's seem them recreated the exact flag waving incident without touching the flag pole.

[Injudiciously]

@guydecervens -- I have my concerns about the truth to the moon landings but flag fluttering is not one of them. NASA's own videos clearly show that the guy was having trouble pushing the pole into the dust/rocks and the flag movement does without doubt follow the ensuing gyrations.

[guesser7]

Come on guys and you kidding. That was not the same type of feather - what ar you trying o pull here?

[FaithRationale]

In all videos of MythBusters they did not even tell us that NASA did in fact constructed a large vacuum.

That's a big failure. Talking about media hiding things.

Apollogists tell me that there is no large vacuum on earth. Everything is as midget as what you see here on video.

But then, I think Apollogist will bite their foot in their mouth with that fact, NASA has a large vacuum chamber.

[loperspest]

A a large one? Sure. Large enough? Look at the videos, there's no dust haning in clouds, it just falls like in vacuum. You can see this in the videos, showing the vacuum nature of the 'set'.

Unlike a movie, Apollo was shot in long continues shots. See if your local library has the Spacecraft Films DVD's, which are much higher quality then anything on youtube. They also don't have the length restrictions a youtube video has.

[FaithRationale]

So, there is a continues shot on the rover scene. All we see is a camera mounted at front. Even on earth dust cannot make it to the front.

Is everything a continues shot? Was the jump of john young a kilometer to take, or the hammer and feather fall, these are stationary shots.

Furthermore, why would nasa show you the picture of the dust flying in front? Have you not heard of film editing?

[standauffish]

PS The flag moving one is where the astronaut walks past a STATIONARY flag and it moves without him bumping it THAT is the one that counts

[standauffish]

Love the feather hammer experiment

You just proved they could have done it on Earth in a big vacuum chamber LOL

[loperspest]

Right, a kilometres wide vacuum chamber, bigger then any single building ever constructed.

w w w [.] archive [.] org/details/Apollo1616mmOnboar­dFilm

Watch from about 30:00 in, there is a 15 minute continuous shot from the 16mm camera. Even if they are not going full speed, they traverse a couple of kilometres in that shot. What evidence do you have of the construction of a vacuum chamber or even set, bigger then any building in the world?

[standauffish]

Does not need to be kilometers wide. The set is easy. If you seriously want to see drop me a Pm Too hard to link in here and I don't have time right now.

But here is the door of the NASA vacuum chamber

coop[.]jsc[.] nasa[.] gov/photo/2003/fallwork/Vacuum­_chamber_door.jpg

[loperspest]

Did you watch the video or not. Do the calculations, that rover travelled kilometres. ANn no, I will not PM. Put it here, it won't take any more time.

, I do not deny NASA built vacuum chambers, in fact but not big enough to fake Apollo.

ALso this would mean they had to wear EVA suits. Even if they had a vacuum chamber big enough, those suits would weigh 180 pounds on Earth. And your telling me they could move like in a Benny Hill Yakity Sax video wearing that?

/watch?v=kojsfbN8ulc

[standauffish]

Well that's okay I don't have time anyway.

Enjoy your Bliss ;)

[loperspest]

Yet you make time to send parting shots that could be better spent presenting evidence for your claims. Good day to you, sir or madam.

[FaithRationale]

It's good that you do not deny that NASA built a vacuum chambers. That means, building a vacuum chamber is indeed possible.

nasa[.]gov[/]mission_pages[/]c­onstellation[/]orion[/]vacuum_­chamber[.]html

en[.]wikipedia[.]org[/]wiki[/]­Space_Power_Facility

Probably you want to run down on numbers... like how much does it cost to build this vacuum?

[FaithRationale]

"The Space Power Facility (SPF) is a vacuum chamber built by NASA in 1969. It stands 122 feet high and 100 feet in diameter, enclosing a bullet-shaped space. It is the world's largest thermal vacuum chamber. "

It doesnt need for the EVA to weigh 180 pounds. Hercules in movie can throw a boulder to his enemies. :-D

[loperspest]

"It doesnt need for the EVA to weigh 180 pounds"

If they are in a vacuum chamber, where they need

a working spacesuit, then, yes, it is needed. As that's what the A7L spacesuit weighed.

apollomaniacs [.] web [.] infoseek [.] co [.] jp/apollo/spacesuite [.] htm

100 feet in diameter isn't nearly big enough to even film this shot /watch?v=ZzHEyUkyt9Y or this /watch?v=0GbRMn3kKvo which also shows signs of vacuum with that the dust falls straight to the ground, not suspended in clouds like in air.

[xismxist]

big enough to hold a lander and two astronaut, with black painted backdrops and mountains

[FaithRationale]

Why would it have to hold everything?

You need to familiarize yourself with making movies, IMHO.

;-)

Probably the making of 2001: The Space Odyssey can help?

:D

[FaithRationale]

hello loperpest,

You do know that in movie they can make you think they are shooting in a big Asteroid?

You see a backpack but it does not tell us what gadgets are inside other than your assumption that it contains what you think suppose to contain.

Another point, it does not take an entire kilometer to do the scene of dropping the hammer and feather. Isn't it?

[FaithRationale]

I don't know what you want to accomplish with the video you linked.

Does everything have to be shot in the vacuum... i don't think so. Movies go to different locations and would make you think it was all done in one/near environment. ;-)

[FaithRationale]

There is a very big vacuum constructed by NASA.

The jump scene of John Young, and the falling hammer and feather need not an entire kilometer to do.

[animefan2k9]

the astro-not suit isn't pressurized and he couldn't grip something a small as a feather in a pressurized suit.

[jayjohnson56]

Hey, I fully believe we did land on the moon. However, that being said, I will never believe the 'findings' of someone who gets so giddy they pee themselves when they prove something they already believed regardless of what they might have found.

When you're screaming "Take that conspiracy theorists!" your 'findings' cant be relied on.

How do you like that going to the people accused of forgery and having them help you prove they didn't forge it??

[myso2008]

that asian guy looks like a fucking Alien bitch

[WhiteJarrah]

This experiment is severely flawed. The smallest object the Apollo A7LB suit gloves can grip in only an inch thick. A feather is considerably thinner than one inch.

How do you tightly grip a feather with a glove that can't hold anything thinner than an inch?

I wanna see the Mythbusters redo this test using a A7LB glove, not a machine.

[TremorHellborn]

When are you gonna get tired of being wrong all the time?

[WhiteJarrah]

"When are you gonna get tired of being wrong all the time?"

When are you gonna actually offer something intelligent to say?

[TremorHellborn]

"When are you gonna actually offer sonmething intelligent to say?"

lol...after YOU do! LOL!!!

[WhiteJarrah]

"after YOU do!"

Been there, done that. Why not try addressing the fact that those gloves can't grip anything smaller than an inch and therefore wouldn't be able to hold a feather in the first place?

[TremorHellborn]

The gloves can't hold anything smaller than an inch, eh? Well, if they did, they obvioiusly can!

A lot of people including myself aren't too impressed by your because-I-so arguments, Jarrah.

[WhiteJarrah]

"A lot of people including myself aren't too impressed by your because-I-so arguments"

I got my info straight from Jan Lundberg - the guy who modified the cameras for use with an astronauts glove. If you were trying to modify something for use with the garment in question, wouldn't you need to know the exact specifications?

Furthermore, the shuttle gloves have recently needed additional layers of TurtleSkin just to increase grip. Those gloves have always been an improvement over Apollo's.

[TremorHellborn]

After watching your theories on sand, primary light source, why we haven't been back to the Moon (study more math!), and many other goofball theories, I can't be bothered to consider your nonsense on gloves.

[WhiteJarrah]

"After watching your theories on sand, primary light source, why we haven't been back to the Moon (study more math!), and many other goofball theories"

So far you haven't provided a shred of evidence as to why the views expressed in my series are wrong. All you've ever posted on my videos is cheap-shots and insults.

"I can't be bothered to consider your nonsense on gloves."

I got the glove info from credible sources. You're gonna dismiss the facts simply because I use them?

[TremorHellborn]

"You're gonna dismiss the facts simply because I use them?"

I shouldn't be doing that. You have a point.

Alright, slight change in topic: the majority of conspiracy theorists I have spoken to over the last few months agree that Apollo 11 was shot ENTIRELY at half speed. Do you agree with this?

[TremorHellborn]

Did you get my last reply? I can't see it for some reason...

[bbglas007]

Haha interesting to see both sides of the story

[bucktotim]

1. The astronauts were not touching the flag when it was waving. Busted!

2. The boot print on the Moon would have been made in dirt without ANY moisture. Busted!

Moon Walk is a Hoax. All 1 has to do is watch the footage and realize they did not have very good special effects back then. The dirt coming off the lunar rover's wheels hits atmosphere and violates physics on the Moon.

[infiniteimprobabilit]

As a physicist, I'm curious how you arrived at the conclusions above. They are, based on many years of academic/research/practical experience, quite bold.

Are these simply "feelings" you have or are your claims empirical? If they are empirical, please respond ASAP as it would negate the overwhelming weight of scientific data and research done (by myself and others) over the past 40+ years.

Thank you for your cooperation in helping me to determine if my life's work has been in vain.

[MrTerrificII]

Bobble headed non-conspiracy theorists, need just follow your regular routine of flag waving, grinning and acceptance of whatever the "scientist" or "scientists" in question states.

[MrTerrificII]

They are really mentally challenged. This was produced by these so-called, "scientists" to attempt to disprove the already known HOAX of the Moon landing. This is just TRASH that should be expected to be produced. All of their experiments are controlled under THEIR own control settings.

[NoLongerFooled]

And this video proves...?

[boomshanka]

That all the retards are wrong and we who use our brains are right.