And most of those suicide bombers kill innocent Muslims so how the hell could they represent us you stupid piece of shit? You are dumb and deluded and will burn in hell for eternity, Insha-Allah.
arseneltic - Another retarded deluded Islamophobe racist bitch who hides behind a monitor like a pussy and does nothing in real life.
61% of the Holy Qur'an isn't about disbelievers shithead. Less than 10% of the Holy Qur'an uses the word disbeliever dumbass.
That pedophile lie has been refuted here (watch?v=tXaw9UZlK_I).
And the sex-crazed lie is bullshit as well, since most of his wives were old widows and he only married them to unite the warring tribes of Arabia and to take care of them.
I cannot believe that people still believe in the scientific miracles in the Qur'an. They are so extremely vague,like to big bang verse could mean a million different things. Some verses are even wrong, e.g. 7:80-81. People like Raheem Green, Zakir Naik, etc. do not make themselves believable by referring to these silly miracle claims all the time.
@87Philips The thing about specifics in the Qur'an thus relating to scientific "harmony" / "miracles" in the Qur'an requires an understanding of Arabic Grammar and the language holistically for you to truly appreciate these signs. Many words in Arabic have dual/multiple meanings its not like English. I too were a bit sceptical about the science but when I dipped a bit more in the grammar of Arabic I found alot more clarity and alot less vagueness about the many many scientific harmonious verses.
@itsmrfz1 This counterargument is quite weak IMO, because I know an Arabic native speaker who said he doesnt even know what these "miracle seakers" are talking about. The verses are vague and ambiguos. I expect more from an omnipotent "God" (whatever that means)
@87Philips And there are Qur'anic Arabic scholars who do resonate with the scientific accuracies found in the Qur'an. Qur'anic Arabic is not Arabic. Arabic is pretty much based on the Qur'an - which is the noblest form of Arabic. The verses are not ambiguous at all when you explore Qur'anic Arabic. If you're sincere, I read quite a good document illustrating the complexity and specificities of the language but not sure how to copy the link here.
Respond to this video... Now despite being in perfect harmony with Science unlike alot of other religions it is not a book of science, never claimed to be. It is a book of guidance with signs - including bits of science, fulfilled prophesies, linguistically superb poetry etc..English translations whilst they are ok - they are subject to human error but the message does seem to get across since recently # of western converts have been doubling/tripling.
@87Philips So the strenuous details of the Qur'an remain somewhat of a hidden Gem even though there are people trying to publish the very details of Qur'anic Arabic. In my opinion this does not contradict any definition of God. If God was all powerful you could then say he could just tell us that there is a God face to face thus the whole world would be believers. This renders useless the notion of life being a test which is the principles of certainly Islam. Peace.
@87Philips Now despite being in perfect harmony with Science unlike alot of other religions it is not a book of science, never claimed to be. It is a book of guidance with signs - including bits of science, fulfilled prophesies, linguistically superb poetry etc..English translations whilst they are ok - they are subject to human error but the message does seem to get across since recently # of western converts have been doubling/tripling.
@itsmrfz1 People in the West also leave Islam, or stop praciticing. Increased media attention plays a role too. Furthermore, the Qur'an is absolutely NOT in perfect harmony with Science. Please do not let yourself be brainwashed by Islam miracle claims. The Qur'an is in opposition to Human evolution, it claims Noah and the flood (c'mon), it claims there was not a single case of homosexuality before Sodom and Gomorrah (7:80), it claims that the Earth was created before the stars etc. etc.
@87Philips More people join Islam then leave, and my point about that was that English speaking people can still relate to the Qur'an even though its in complicated Arabic. Now as far as your claims - without getting into too much detail none of those contradict the Qur'an at all. Infact some actually support Islam for instance for example - the S & G story. The city of sodom was unearthed recently.(cont)
@87Philips The Qur'an states the destruction to be volcanos and earthquakes - German archaelogist Keller :"Their destruction came about through a great Earthquake which was accompanied by explosions, lightning issue of natural gas and general conflagration..and that great layers of lava have been deposited on the surface and craters of extinct volcanoes exist in the area".
@87Philips Also you said about homosexuality not being around, firstly it was Lot that said that to the homosexuals and even then it contradicts nothing. Now as far as HUMAN evolution it is rejected - but again this does not contradict Islam as there is a long way to go to prove this "theory". Noahs ark is actually another miracle of the Qur'an as unlike the Bible it does not say that the whole world was wiped out which is proven false.
@87Philips And..? Evolutionary process doesnt mean anything - in fact an attribute of Allah is "the evolver". Human Evolution on the other hand is FAR from being a fact. Then not to mention we can postulate a Teleological/Cosmological argument for God's existence.
@itsmrfz1 Dude I dont think the Qur'an is very scientific at all to be honest. I think these are all just claims. And actually one of Muhammad's closest followerd was Harith Ibn Kalada who previously studied at a Persian medial school. The embryology in the Qur'an is very similar to that of Galen interestingly.
Do you go to the UCL Friday Prayer? Because I was thinking about going there this week lol
@87Philips I've read a very thorough paper about Galen and his embryology in comparison to Qur'anic embryology about if it was plagiarised and it strongly concluded that it wasnt and did give sound reasons - the orders and specificities mentioned in Arabic lead to a more detailed response in the Qur'an.
@87Philips Futheremore the plagiarism argument doesnt quite work in my opinion as if somebody wrote the Qur'an (bearing in mind its a holistic book) then why didnt he copy anything thats totally wrong from what the Greeks said like the water cycle. Naah I dont - I go to the London Central Mosque for friday prayer. Lol you should still go, but be careful everyone's gonna try behead you since we're "taught" that ;)..Scott Hall fan. Nice.
@87Philips The Qur'an specifically refers to a selection of people and particular place and says the ark will rest on mt.Judi. Excavations have confirmed a giant oceanic flood in this iran/turkey region and even evidence of an outline of the ark itself which is still ongoing. The Qur'an furthermore does not state the Earth was created b4 stars(unlike genesis) - in short it does not state the chronological order - as much as the so called rebuttal sites want to show you.
@87Philips There's absoultely no point criticising when you've not read everything in context. From the plants having genders, the communication of ants, the mother's gene determining the sex of the baby to the detailed account of embryological detail confirmed by Dr.Keith Moore whos embryological text books are studied across universities in USA and Canada do not brainwash me in the slightest.
@itsmrfz1 Dr. Keith Moore has published 8 differen edition of this book and only the 3rd one refers to embryology in the Qur'an as a miracle. This book was published in the 1980s and has the names "Osama Bin Laden" and "Sheik Al Zindani" in the Thank You List. This special "Islam edition" is worth less than toilet paper. I study at UCL and they have five different editions of the book in the library.
@87Philips I also study at UCL ;)..And LOL. Can you not put 2 and 2 together? He has specifically said that when a a group of Muslim students approached me and showed my the Qur'an with the Arabic verses that it would not have been able to be known at the time of the prophet.
@87Philips Now I actually didnt even know he made an islamic edition I was actually referring to his personal opinion. It doesn't matter if he thanks the Qur'an in the book - as the Qur'anic description of embryology is exactly how it is today. We dont need a thank Islam book - i actually dont see the point. The content still remains. Orly trillion times before eh? I have actually and I think I'll stick to my divine Holy Qur'an thanks!
@itsmrfz1 You know I checked almost all of these alleged miracles in the Qur'an and I believe they are all nonsense, sorry. You can do the same with other books, e.g. Moby Dick is a prominent example. And surely if there is an Almight creator he would not tell us about the Communication of Ants, that would be silly. There is no Muslim scientist who every made a scientific discovery directly from the Qur'an, they are only interpreted in retrospect.
@87Philips Yes because a book written in the desert 1400 years ago by an illiterate man .. has no contradictions, has scientific and historical accuracies, is a book of reason, has been preserved by man as its easy to memorise and is on a league of its own linguistically - confirmed by Muslim and non-Muslim arab literature scholars is just a book....You keep eluding to it BEING a book of science. It's a holistic book with signs and a life of guidance for humans.
@87Philips First read everything, understand the language of Arabic and then come and criticise things for yourself instead of relying on websites to do it for you. I implore you to be sincere. Peace.
@itsmrfz1 Well in some cases I actually emailed prominent Arabic speaking Muslims such as Tim Winter to help me confirm. Furthermore, it is strange that an almight creator would write a book in some ancient arabic language that today many native speakers find difficult to understand. So I have to get a Phd in ancient Arabic in order to understand God's timeless message... what a great revelation.
@87Philips Again you're missing the point. The message in the Qur'an is very clear and very straightforward hence why I mentioned the number of non-Arabic speaking people converting to Islam or practising the faith. Only 18% of the Muslim population are Arabs. If the "message" were so hard then this wouldnt be the case - because if you actually bothered picking the book up you'd get it. Now in relation to the details of the Qur'an, why should it be presented to you?
@87Philips You should have to work for it. And in any case when I mention the complexity of Arabic its only to defend claims that non-believers constantly postulate and suggest because one translation says this then it must be vague therefore has no credibility.
@87Philips Some people on the other hand who do not grasp Arabic see the science to be miraculous. I personally feel the need to understand Arabic grammar and the language itself to appreciate whats actually written. But thats just when I explore the details of the Qur'an - the fundamentals are as clear as anything.
@itsmrfz1 Exactley. The fundamentals are there is an almighty, undefined something that created the entire universe, e.g. every Galaxy, every atom, electron, DNA - all these amazing things. And one day this something decides to write a book. And in this book he threatens people with physical violence if they don't obey him. Yeah I got it
@itsmrfz1 Indeed, you are wasting your time. Stop quoting verses in the Qur'an that I have heard a trillion times before and instead buy a decent book on Human Evolution. You may actually learn something about the real world
If Prophet Muhamad was deluded, or genius crazy man. Why he never ask people to worship him ? There is no deluded man who worry that in the future people will worship him like Jesus. And he even never let anyone to make any picture of him. The truth is the truth and a liar is alway a liar too, no matter the best human being was sent to guide to the right way.
If Noah, Abraham, Jesus, etc could not safe this kind of people, P. Muhamad era will face the same kind people too.
Brother Green, Quran was from allah, and Allah will protect us. Unbeliever is always like that since the first prophet came. Because this kind of people, Tora & bible are not pure anymore. Now, in 21century, Qur'an still has the miracles....That's why P.Muhamad was sent for us.
The question is, If Allah never sent P.Muhamad ? Do you think Allah will let us to follow broken message ? (Tora, bible) I don't think so...
Those kind unbeliever, always make story since Abraham, Jesus, era etc....
You take some VERY vague bits of poetry and ascribe some scientific meaning.... what you say is utter rubbish!!! Can't you hear how ridiculous it sounds when you watch this? If not you are seriously naive!!!
I am not Islamic ... but I think Islam is a very spiritual religion... I am not a religious Fanatic either BUT I AM A SPIRITUAL WOMAN... I have met many beautiful Islamic men & woman, many of whom when I communicate with I truly feel a spiritual presence of Divine Order; Humble Loving Honorable Humane presence.
One can not Judge Islam on the actions of a few who have strayed into their reality but once was a humble servant of Islam... & when clear will come back...smile
If the Koran is so full of scientific discoveries hidden in the lines of religious dogma, why did none of the millions of Islamic scholars ever discover them? Why were none of the Imams to compose a single technical paper or peer reviewed scientific document based on koranic scripture? The 'scientific miracles' are actually miracles of obtuse, gilded interpretation of mundane observations and rehashed common knowledge.
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."
ALL bibles are false and man made. They are ALL full of conrtradictions, evil, rape murder, slavery etc....... What good has religion done??? It is the biggest cause of war and death... It's time for us to get rid of religion.....
The so-called 'miracle' of Surat Al-Anbiyya is an immensely crude depiction of the Big Bang. And, of course, it's also found in other mythologies; notably, in the Hindu myth of the Hiranyagarbha breaking in half and forming Svarga and Prithvi (Sky and Earth).
At the same time, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a physicist worth his salt that would think that it's an accurate depiction of the Big Bang theory.
If he is angry - then he can only blame himself for giving his creation a book (The Qur'an), that is quite clearly flawed, confusing for many people, contradictory and clearly lacks absolute clarity and certainty.
It even mentions some very interesting historic facts unknown at the time, makes claims about Jesus and Mary that Christian historians have proven, corrects Biblical anachronisms, and despite mentioning a great deal of natural phenomena, did not get a single thing wrong, but is uncannily in agreement with much modern science.
Each of these may be proven with some research on your part.
"makes claims about Jesus and Mary that Christian historians have proven"
Yeah. Like the infant Jesus preaching Islam while he's still in diapers. At the same time, Christian historians, like William Lane Craig, claim to have evidence that proves Jesus' death and resurrection, contradicting the Islamic belief.
Then again, Allah did perform a deception just to make it look like they crucified Jesus, didn't he?
"...natural phenomena, did not get a single thing wrong"
Hm. How about Surat Adh-Dhariyat, verse 49?
'And from all things, we created pairs, they ye may reflect.'
The Arabic word in the verse is 'zawjayni,' which means 'pairs' or 'couples.' The same root is used for the word for wife/husband.
Given that, why is it that the predominant life on this planet, bacteria, are asexual, and so are not 'created in pairs?' Not to mention viruses, archaea, many types of fungi, etc.
@BjornPalmen U r so ignorant Another name for space is heavens this infinite space is not infinite but finite Only God knows what exists beyond this! One Day we all will know the truth! Peace!
You obviously have faith issues within your self that has nothing to do Islam, Christianity, Buddhism or any religion.
I am not a religious fanatic but I do have respect for peoples right to religion if that's what they need; I may need it some day... smile.
The Bible is full of DECEPTION & has been tampered with throughout millenium mostly to benefit the Israelite & later the FAKE AshkeNAZI Jews. But there are still TRUTH in BIBLE one just has to be more clear within themselves.
And this is from reading the Qur'an itself. The idea of God torturing good, decent people - just because they refused Islam and found a better way to live their life, is representative of a violent, spoilt, petty bullying psychopath. This may sound like only my opinion, but this opinion is formed through reading the Qur'an with mind, brain, logic, reason.....all of the things that God apparently gave us.
Can Allah really be angry with us for coming to this conclusion? lol.
The Quran is anythin but how you descreibed it. It speaks to both mind and soul, tells you to think, ponder about the creation, about yourself, about your purpose. It describes God as the most merciful, who answers the prayer, and tje most just. One who blesses you continuously, but most people are not thankful. The Quran speaks about human nature, gives moral guidance, lays down laws, yet with all this, it is unparalleled in spirituality, and its recitation is sublime.
This is where we have to differ, I cannot accept that good honest people will be tortured in hell fire for all eternity just because they 'refused' Islam. How is this an acts of mercy? This cannot be a God that is merciful. It literally doesn't make ANY sense. What rational people view as evil, and what people like yourself view as evil are probably two different things. Allah via the Qur'an seems contradictory, psychopathic and more.
Once again, rejecting the truth is a major offense, especially when based on arrogance. But I understand where you are coming from. The point is, God assures you of his justice and mercy repeatedly, and that he multiplies good deeds, and forgives bad deeds.
Dean, for someone to be humble, and seek the truth by researching different religions, using both mind and soul, and praying to God for guidance, it is not possible that they end up not Muslim.
"I can point you to many men who are far smarter than your guys, and accepted Islam." I don't believe that but It's subjective so I'll leave it be. You are still missing my point. Allah will torture his creation in hell for eternity - simply because they refused Islam. How can this be merciful? I agree that evil people and evil doings should be punished, but should a good individual be punished in the hell fire just because they rejected Islam? lol. No. But yet this is what the Qur'an says.
Dean, firstly, Hell is for those who once Islam was made clear to them, they still reject God. We don't believe that somebody who never heard of Islam, or only hears that it is a religion of terrorists will automatically go to hell. The message has to reach them undistorted - And God is the most just of judges in the end.
Also, most scholars believe hell is indeed eternal, though some highly respected scholars believe it is finite, due to the wording of some verses in the Quran
The main crux of Islam is your purpose of life. To look around you and see the beauty of creation. Look at your own body, your heart beating, blood flowing, countless organs, your senses, your mind ... all of which you never asked for, but were given. Contemplate that you were once a tiny cell that developed to grown human.
How can you possibly stand there and claim this is all a mindless, blind, pointless accident?
Look deep within your soul, and ask whoever made you for guidance.
I can point to you many many men who are far more intelligent than Abdur Rahmeem Green - who viewed Islam - and denounced it as FALSE. They refused to accept it because they believe it is ridiculous - so you have to view the other side too. My point regarding mercy and hell has gone completely over your head - which is no surprise since most Muslims argue with emotion, not logic or reason.
The point is, mercy takes precedence, God said this repeatedly. people will be forgiven for countless wrongs, and only those who truly deserved it end up in hell. It is SUPPOSED to be a bad place, deterrent for evil.
I can point you to many men who are far smarter than your guys, and accepted Islam. It is not about brains alone, you must use your soul too - and yes you have one.
You must use both intellect and soul sincerely, only when you neglect one or the other will you be misguided.
Also, the problem seems to be that you see hurting other people as evil - which it is - but rejecting God as not evil. It is evil to reject the one who has given you everything, the health, mind, body, world, family, existence that you take for granted ... who constantly blesses you.
From your perspective you may not see that, but it is very evil.
Hell may not be a palatable idea, but the point is God is the most merciful and just, we trust that .. relegating the judgement to a higher court.
It simply doesn't make any sense. Muslims also claim that Allah loves his creation more than a mother could ever love her child. Yet, as I point out again, the Qur'an states very clearly that if you do not accept Islam - you will suffer an unbearable fate. So - I beg the question : Would a mother torture her child for hours on end - or even for as long as she lived? Islam makes no sense. Period. And the simple truth is Allah does not sound merciful. He sounds like a psychopath.
The Quran speaks to both mind and soul, and you must use both, with humility, to find the truth. And God guides those who sincerely want truth.
Look around you, look at your own body that you take for granted... Evolution or not, how can you possibly believe that everything is ultimately just a blind accident? Look at your beginnings, a tiny cell that became you. Mindless accident?
Muslims claim Allah is most merciful, in fact they claim he is the most merciful and caring - yet the Qur'an teaches very clearly, those who reject Islam will suffer in the hell fire for all eternity. How can Allah be most merciful and loving, when he is stating here that you will be tortured for the rest of time if you don't accept HIS religion, which by the way, is extremely flawed....?
He either is merciful - or he isn't. This is an example of how contradictory Islam actually is.
There has to be punishment. Otherwise, do you expect someone like Hitler to just "check out"?
That hadith about God more merciful than a mother specifically clarifies that point, that only someone who completely deserved it would end up in hell, and that God is all knowing, forgiving and all just, so nobody will be dealt with unjustly. God does not wrong the people, they wrong themselves.
This hell business is an emotional argument in the end, an excuse.
There has to be punishment. Otherwise, do you expect someone like Hitler to just "check out"?
That hadith about God more merciful than a mother specifically clarifies that point, that only someone who completely deserved it would end up in hell, and that God is all knowing, forgiving and all just, so nobody will be dealt with unjustly. God does not wrong the people, they wrong themselves.
I understand people don't like the concept of hell, but it is an emotional argument
Logic? Wow, you are seriously uneducated and deluded. All I can offer is that you go away and study different forms of thought - away from Islam. Study every aspect of Philosophy, even brake down your own religion - and if your heart is true, you will discover that Islam is quite laughable - and the Qur'an is a beings work, not a supreme being.
Well Deanboy, I did this. I think know about many religions more than most of their own followers. Of all religions, Islam wins hands down. I have seen countless people who went through the same analysis of religion, and practically all found Islam to be the truth - like the man in the video.
And really the whole idea of atheism is really strange. How can you believe that the wonder around you, and your own mind, is the product of mindless blind pointless accidents? That is absurd.
What if that IS the point to life? For that matter, maybe there is no point to it at all. Just because you or him or anybody else believes something, does not make it true. Just because you are unable to accept the fact that there are many questions we do not have the answers to does not mean you should just accept whatever other answer was provided. After all, it can still be wrong.
All I'm saying is those that accept islam, do so without considdering it to be wrong also.
Just because you can't wrap your little brain around the idea that things just happen for no purpose, does not mean some crazy man 1400 years agao was telling the truth.
People lie every single day. If Muhammed lied about gabriel talking to him, then all of Islam is a lie.
Any honest person would conclude that the life of the Prophet Muhammad, and the revelation he brought forth is not one of a liar. He clearly believed in what he preached.
And what you said is very silly, almost like saying just because it is absurd and against every fibre of your being, doesn't mean you shouldn't accept it.
How can you believe you have no purpose? That there is not account? That you just make babies and die!
Crazy people believe in what they preach as well, but that does not make it real.
And it's not against every fiber of my being, nor is it obsurd. Why should I simply accept a person (Muhammed) at their word. He was a master at the spoken word there is no doubt, and there are a lot of people like that. Hitler, Neopoleon, Ceasar, Alexander, Obama, etc. etc.
The Quran claims to be the word of God. And every honest test you place on it, you find it passes.
It IS against human nature to believe that we are an accident. And it is irrational. You can only accept it if you willfully blinded yourself. Truth is clear.
Actually islam is the worst one.
MetalReigns2 5 months ago
Welcome to poverty. Islam is shit, being muslim is living in darkness of sharia law and poverty,
all the muslim countries are failed state. Fuck Mohammad, Allah and Islam.
All muslims have a terrorist mindset. The positive contribution to world is nothing.
Kiss your mohammad's dick assholes.
TheBooks912 7 months ago
I bet, adhur doesn't live in the middle east!
DD826 8 months ago
I wonder how many religion he had before Islam and how many he will have after?
liduq 8 months ago
And lastly suicide is prohibited in the Holy Qur'an dickhead:
"DO NOT KILL YOURSELVES" (Surah an-Nisa 4:29).
And most of those suicide bombers kill innocent Muslims so how the hell could they represent us you stupid piece of shit? You are dumb and deluded and will burn in hell for eternity, Insha-Allah.
truebeliever786 9 months ago
arseneltic - Another retarded deluded Islamophobe racist bitch who hides behind a monitor like a pussy and does nothing in real life.
61% of the Holy Qur'an isn't about disbelievers shithead. Less than 10% of the Holy Qur'an uses the word disbeliever dumbass.
That pedophile lie has been refuted here (watch?v=tXaw9UZlK_I).
And the sex-crazed lie is bullshit as well, since most of his wives were old widows and he only married them to unite the warring tribes of Arabia and to take care of them.
truebeliever786 9 months ago
I cannot believe that people still believe in the scientific miracles in the Qur'an. They are so extremely vague,like to big bang verse could mean a million different things. Some verses are even wrong, e.g. 7:80-81. People like Raheem Green, Zakir Naik, etc. do not make themselves believable by referring to these silly miracle claims all the time.
87Philips 11 months ago
@87Philips The thing about specifics in the Qur'an thus relating to scientific "harmony" / "miracles" in the Qur'an requires an understanding of Arabic Grammar and the language holistically for you to truly appreciate these signs. Many words in Arabic have dual/multiple meanings its not like English. I too were a bit sceptical about the science but when I dipped a bit more in the grammar of Arabic I found alot more clarity and alot less vagueness about the many many scientific harmonious verses.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 This counterargument is quite weak IMO, because I know an Arabic native speaker who said he doesnt even know what these "miracle seakers" are talking about. The verses are vague and ambiguos. I expect more from an omnipotent "God" (whatever that means)
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips And there are Qur'anic Arabic scholars who do resonate with the scientific accuracies found in the Qur'an. Qur'anic Arabic is not Arabic. Arabic is pretty much based on the Qur'an - which is the noblest form of Arabic. The verses are not ambiguous at all when you explore Qur'anic Arabic. If you're sincere, I read quite a good document illustrating the complexity and specificities of the language but not sure how to copy the link here.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
Respond to this video... Now despite being in perfect harmony with Science unlike alot of other religions it is not a book of science, never claimed to be. It is a book of guidance with signs - including bits of science, fulfilled prophesies, linguistically superb poetry etc..English translations whilst they are ok - they are subject to human error but the message does seem to get across since recently # of western converts have been doubling/tripling.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips So the strenuous details of the Qur'an remain somewhat of a hidden Gem even though there are people trying to publish the very details of Qur'anic Arabic. In my opinion this does not contradict any definition of God. If God was all powerful you could then say he could just tell us that there is a God face to face thus the whole world would be believers. This renders useless the notion of life being a test which is the principles of certainly Islam. Peace.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips Now despite being in perfect harmony with Science unlike alot of other religions it is not a book of science, never claimed to be. It is a book of guidance with signs - including bits of science, fulfilled prophesies, linguistically superb poetry etc..English translations whilst they are ok - they are subject to human error but the message does seem to get across since recently # of western converts have been doubling/tripling.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 People in the West also leave Islam, or stop praciticing. Increased media attention plays a role too. Furthermore, the Qur'an is absolutely NOT in perfect harmony with Science. Please do not let yourself be brainwashed by Islam miracle claims. The Qur'an is in opposition to Human evolution, it claims Noah and the flood (c'mon), it claims there was not a single case of homosexuality before Sodom and Gomorrah (7:80), it claims that the Earth was created before the stars etc. etc.
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips More people join Islam then leave, and my point about that was that English speaking people can still relate to the Qur'an even though its in complicated Arabic. Now as far as your claims - without getting into too much detail none of those contradict the Qur'an at all. Infact some actually support Islam for instance for example - the S & G story. The city of sodom was unearthed recently.(cont)
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips The Qur'an states the destruction to be volcanos and earthquakes - German archaelogist Keller :"Their destruction came about through a great Earthquake which was accompanied by explosions, lightning issue of natural gas and general conflagration..and that great layers of lava have been deposited on the surface and craters of extinct volcanoes exist in the area".
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips Also you said about homosexuality not being around, firstly it was Lot that said that to the homosexuals and even then it contradicts nothing. Now as far as HUMAN evolution it is rejected - but again this does not contradict Islam as there is a long way to go to prove this "theory". Noahs ark is actually another miracle of the Qur'an as unlike the Bible it does not say that the whole world was wiped out which is proven false.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 Evolution is a fact just as gravitation is a fact. The theory of evolution is debatable and so is the theory of gravity.
We do not know exactly HOW we evolved, but we do know THAT we evolved.
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips And..? Evolutionary process doesnt mean anything - in fact an attribute of Allah is "the evolver". Human Evolution on the other hand is FAR from being a fact. Then not to mention we can postulate a Teleological/Cosmological argument for God's existence.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 Dude I dont think the Qur'an is very scientific at all to be honest. I think these are all just claims. And actually one of Muhammad's closest followerd was Harith Ibn Kalada who previously studied at a Persian medial school. The embryology in the Qur'an is very similar to that of Galen interestingly.
Do you go to the UCL Friday Prayer? Because I was thinking about going there this week lol
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips I've read a very thorough paper about Galen and his embryology in comparison to Qur'anic embryology about if it was plagiarised and it strongly concluded that it wasnt and did give sound reasons - the orders and specificities mentioned in Arabic lead to a more detailed response in the Qur'an.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips Futheremore the plagiarism argument doesnt quite work in my opinion as if somebody wrote the Qur'an (bearing in mind its a holistic book) then why didnt he copy anything thats totally wrong from what the Greeks said like the water cycle. Naah I dont - I go to the London Central Mosque for friday prayer. Lol you should still go, but be careful everyone's gonna try behead you since we're "taught" that ;)..Scott Hall fan. Nice.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips The Qur'an specifically refers to a selection of people and particular place and says the ark will rest on mt.Judi. Excavations have confirmed a giant oceanic flood in this iran/turkey region and even evidence of an outline of the ark itself which is still ongoing. The Qur'an furthermore does not state the Earth was created b4 stars(unlike genesis) - in short it does not state the chronological order - as much as the so called rebuttal sites want to show you.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips There's absoultely no point criticising when you've not read everything in context. From the plants having genders, the communication of ants, the mother's gene determining the sex of the baby to the detailed account of embryological detail confirmed by Dr.Keith Moore whos embryological text books are studied across universities in USA and Canada do not brainwash me in the slightest.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 Dr. Keith Moore has published 8 differen edition of this book and only the 3rd one refers to embryology in the Qur'an as a miracle. This book was published in the 1980s and has the names "Osama Bin Laden" and "Sheik Al Zindani" in the Thank You List. This special "Islam edition" is worth less than toilet paper. I study at UCL and they have five different editions of the book in the library.
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips I also study at UCL ;)..And LOL. Can you not put 2 and 2 together? He has specifically said that when a a group of Muslim students approached me and showed my the Qur'an with the Arabic verses that it would not have been able to be known at the time of the prophet.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips Now I actually didnt even know he made an islamic edition I was actually referring to his personal opinion. It doesn't matter if he thanks the Qur'an in the book - as the Qur'anic description of embryology is exactly how it is today. We dont need a thank Islam book - i actually dont see the point. The content still remains. Orly trillion times before eh? I have actually and I think I'll stick to my divine Holy Qur'an thanks!
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 You know I checked almost all of these alleged miracles in the Qur'an and I believe they are all nonsense, sorry. You can do the same with other books, e.g. Moby Dick is a prominent example. And surely if there is an Almight creator he would not tell us about the Communication of Ants, that would be silly. There is no Muslim scientist who every made a scientific discovery directly from the Qur'an, they are only interpreted in retrospect.
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips Yes because a book written in the desert 1400 years ago by an illiterate man .. has no contradictions, has scientific and historical accuracies, is a book of reason, has been preserved by man as its easy to memorise and is on a league of its own linguistically - confirmed by Muslim and non-Muslim arab literature scholars is just a book....You keep eluding to it BEING a book of science. It's a holistic book with signs and a life of guidance for humans.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips First read everything, understand the language of Arabic and then come and criticise things for yourself instead of relying on websites to do it for you. I implore you to be sincere. Peace.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 Well in some cases I actually emailed prominent Arabic speaking Muslims such as Tim Winter to help me confirm. Furthermore, it is strange that an almight creator would write a book in some ancient arabic language that today many native speakers find difficult to understand. So I have to get a Phd in ancient Arabic in order to understand God's timeless message... what a great revelation.
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips Again you're missing the point. The message in the Qur'an is very clear and very straightforward hence why I mentioned the number of non-Arabic speaking people converting to Islam or practising the faith. Only 18% of the Muslim population are Arabs. If the "message" were so hard then this wouldnt be the case - because if you actually bothered picking the book up you'd get it. Now in relation to the details of the Qur'an, why should it be presented to you?
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips You should have to work for it. And in any case when I mention the complexity of Arabic its only to defend claims that non-believers constantly postulate and suggest because one translation says this then it must be vague therefore has no credibility.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@87Philips Some people on the other hand who do not grasp Arabic see the science to be miraculous. I personally feel the need to understand Arabic grammar and the language itself to appreciate whats actually written. But thats just when I explore the details of the Qur'an - the fundamentals are as clear as anything.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 Exactley. The fundamentals are there is an almighty, undefined something that created the entire universe, e.g. every Galaxy, every atom, electron, DNA - all these amazing things. And one day this something decides to write a book. And in this book he threatens people with physical violence if they don't obey him. Yeah I got it
87Philips 10 months ago
@87Philips Actually you dont get it. And Im quite dissapointed I wasted my time on somebody as ignorant as you.
"They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it" Surat At-Tawbah
The more you hate, the more we grow. Salaam.
itsmrfz1 10 months ago
@itsmrfz1 Indeed, you are wasting your time. Stop quoting verses in the Qur'an that I have heard a trillion times before and instead buy a decent book on Human Evolution. You may actually learn something about the real world
87Philips 10 months ago
If Prophet Muhamad was deluded, or genius crazy man. Why he never ask people to worship him ? There is no deluded man who worry that in the future people will worship him like Jesus. And he even never let anyone to make any picture of him. The truth is the truth and a liar is alway a liar too, no matter the best human being was sent to guide to the right way.
If Noah, Abraham, Jesus, etc could not safe this kind of people, P. Muhamad era will face the same kind people too.
ceploktube 1 year ago
Brother Green, Quran was from allah, and Allah will protect us. Unbeliever is always like that since the first prophet came. Because this kind of people, Tora & bible are not pure anymore. Now, in 21century, Qur'an still has the miracles....That's why P.Muhamad was sent for us.
The question is, If Allah never sent P.Muhamad ? Do you think Allah will let us to follow broken message ? (Tora, bible) I don't think so...
Those kind unbeliever, always make story since Abraham, Jesus, era etc....
ceploktube 1 year ago
You take some VERY vague bits of poetry and ascribe some scientific meaning.... what you say is utter rubbish!!! Can't you hear how ridiculous it sounds when you watch this? If not you are seriously naive!!!
chh5555 1 year ago 2
may ALLAH bless u
islamisrising 1 year ago
Those amazing statements sound a lot like some of what was recorded much earlier in Genesis.
W9k9h9 1 year ago
Islam only your way in this live ^_^
Courageous567 1 year ago
I am not Islamic ... but I think Islam is a very spiritual religion... I am not a religious Fanatic either BUT I AM A SPIRITUAL WOMAN... I have met many beautiful Islamic men & woman, many of whom when I communicate with I truly feel a spiritual presence of Divine Order; Humble Loving Honorable Humane presence.
One can not Judge Islam on the actions of a few who have strayed into their reality but once was a humble servant of Islam... & when clear will come back...smile
This video is great!!!
SiNaoia 1 year ago 11
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Look up on you tube:
" Muhammad sex scandal from the koran and hadith "
and
"Muhammad and Zainab sex scandal"
littlelion1964 1 year ago
If the Koran is so full of scientific discoveries hidden in the lines of religious dogma, why did none of the millions of Islamic scholars ever discover them? Why were none of the Imams to compose a single technical paper or peer reviewed scientific document based on koranic scripture? The 'scientific miracles' are actually miracles of obtuse, gilded interpretation of mundane observations and rehashed common knowledge.
muslimwhacker 2 years ago
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Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814
ahmalala 2 years ago
ALL bibles are false and man made. They are ALL full of conrtradictions, evil, rape murder, slavery etc....... What good has religion done??? It is the biggest cause of war and death... It's time for us to get rid of religion.....
Kubota71 2 years ago
@Kubota71 Word!
Sofakulern 2 years ago
I disagree that there can't be liars who are also deluded. I see them all the time on YT alone.
4thHorsemanRides 2 years ago
There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His last Messenger
theSblackburn 2 years ago 3
The so-called 'miracle' of Surat Al-Anbiyya is an immensely crude depiction of the Big Bang. And, of course, it's also found in other mythologies; notably, in the Hindu myth of the Hiranyagarbha breaking in half and forming Svarga and Prithvi (Sky and Earth).
At the same time, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a physicist worth his salt that would think that it's an accurate depiction of the Big Bang theory.
Zdrazy 2 years ago
If he is angry - then he can only blame himself for giving his creation a book (The Qur'an), that is quite clearly flawed, confusing for many people, contradictory and clearly lacks absolute clarity and certainty.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
It even mentions some very interesting historic facts unknown at the time, makes claims about Jesus and Mary that Christian historians have proven, corrects Biblical anachronisms, and despite mentioning a great deal of natural phenomena, did not get a single thing wrong, but is uncannily in agreement with much modern science.
Each of these may be proven with some research on your part.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
"makes claims about Jesus and Mary that Christian historians have proven"
Yeah. Like the infant Jesus preaching Islam while he's still in diapers. At the same time, Christian historians, like William Lane Craig, claim to have evidence that proves Jesus' death and resurrection, contradicting the Islamic belief.
Then again, Allah did perform a deception just to make it look like they crucified Jesus, didn't he?
Zdrazy 2 years ago
"...natural phenomena, did not get a single thing wrong"
Hm. How about Surat Adh-Dhariyat, verse 49?
'And from all things, we created pairs, they ye may reflect.'
The Arabic word in the verse is 'zawjayni,' which means 'pairs' or 'couples.' The same root is used for the word for wife/husband.
Given that, why is it that the predominant life on this planet, bacteria, are asexual, and so are not 'created in pairs?' Not to mention viruses, archaea, many types of fungi, etc.
Zdrazy 2 years ago
@IslamicGoldenAge There is absolutely no need to separate the heaven from the earth.
Earth is a planet rotating around the sun, there is no heaven, only infinite space.
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
@BjornPalmen U r so ignorant Another name for space is heavens this infinite space is not infinite but finite Only God knows what exists beyond this! One Day we all will know the truth! Peace!
moeazysgc 1 year ago
@moeazysgc Another name for space is heavens?? Good space!
BjornPalmen 1 year ago
@Deanboy2007
You obviously have faith issues within your self that has nothing to do Islam, Christianity, Buddhism or any religion.
I am not a religious fanatic but I do have respect for peoples right to religion if that's what they need; I may need it some day... smile.
The Bible is full of DECEPTION & has been tampered with throughout millenium mostly to benefit the Israelite & later the FAKE AshkeNAZI Jews. But there are still TRUTH in BIBLE one just has to be more clear within themselves.
SiNaoia 1 year ago 2
And this is from reading the Qur'an itself. The idea of God torturing good, decent people - just because they refused Islam and found a better way to live their life, is representative of a violent, spoilt, petty bullying psychopath. This may sound like only my opinion, but this opinion is formed through reading the Qur'an with mind, brain, logic, reason.....all of the things that God apparently gave us.
Can Allah really be angry with us for coming to this conclusion? lol.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
The Quran is anythin but how you descreibed it. It speaks to both mind and soul, tells you to think, ponder about the creation, about yourself, about your purpose. It describes God as the most merciful, who answers the prayer, and tje most just. One who blesses you continuously, but most people are not thankful. The Quran speaks about human nature, gives moral guidance, lays down laws, yet with all this, it is unparalleled in spirituality, and its recitation is sublime.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
to refuse Islam= refuse the idea that there is no god but Allah and he is the one and only
and this is the biggest sin ever....the ONLY sin that Allah is not going to forgive
in return if you acknowledged that he is one and only God and ask for his forgiveness , he will forgive you once you ask
there is no greater mercy than that !!
moonykamal 2 years ago
refuse Islam= refuse Allah's judgment about what Allah thinks is best for you= you think that your judgment is better than his ??
Who knows better than the one who created you??
moonykamal 2 years ago
This is where we have to differ, I cannot accept that good honest people will be tortured in hell fire for all eternity just because they 'refused' Islam. How is this an acts of mercy? This cannot be a God that is merciful. It literally doesn't make ANY sense. What rational people view as evil, and what people like yourself view as evil are probably two different things. Allah via the Qur'an seems contradictory, psychopathic and more.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
Once again, rejecting the truth is a major offense, especially when based on arrogance. But I understand where you are coming from. The point is, God assures you of his justice and mercy repeatedly, and that he multiplies good deeds, and forgives bad deeds.
Dean, for someone to be humble, and seek the truth by researching different religions, using both mind and soul, and praying to God for guidance, it is not possible that they end up not Muslim.
Only prostrating to God can give you peace
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago 8
"I can point you to many men who are far smarter than your guys, and accepted Islam." I don't believe that but It's subjective so I'll leave it be. You are still missing my point. Allah will torture his creation in hell for eternity - simply because they refused Islam. How can this be merciful? I agree that evil people and evil doings should be punished, but should a good individual be punished in the hell fire just because they rejected Islam? lol. No. But yet this is what the Qur'an says.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
Dean, firstly, Hell is for those who once Islam was made clear to them, they still reject God. We don't believe that somebody who never heard of Islam, or only hears that it is a religion of terrorists will automatically go to hell. The message has to reach them undistorted - And God is the most just of judges in the end.
Also, most scholars believe hell is indeed eternal, though some highly respected scholars believe it is finite, due to the wording of some verses in the Quran
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
The main crux of Islam is your purpose of life. To look around you and see the beauty of creation. Look at your own body, your heart beating, blood flowing, countless organs, your senses, your mind ... all of which you never asked for, but were given. Contemplate that you were once a tiny cell that developed to grown human.
How can you possibly stand there and claim this is all a mindless, blind, pointless accident?
Look deep within your soul, and ask whoever made you for guidance.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Deanboy2007: Muslims also claim that Allah loves his creation more than a mother could ever love her child.
No, Muslims don't claim that .
Muslims claim that Allah loves his believing servant more than a mother could ever love her child.
prbf2 2 years ago
I can point to you many many men who are far more intelligent than Abdur Rahmeem Green - who viewed Islam - and denounced it as FALSE. They refused to accept it because they believe it is ridiculous - so you have to view the other side too. My point regarding mercy and hell has gone completely over your head - which is no surprise since most Muslims argue with emotion, not logic or reason.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
The point is, mercy takes precedence, God said this repeatedly. people will be forgiven for countless wrongs, and only those who truly deserved it end up in hell. It is SUPPOSED to be a bad place, deterrent for evil.
I can point you to many men who are far smarter than your guys, and accepted Islam. It is not about brains alone, you must use your soul too - and yes you have one.
You must use both intellect and soul sincerely, only when you neglect one or the other will you be misguided.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
again Dean, just think. Doesn't justice have to be served? How can evil go unpunished?
How can you believe the wonder around you is an accident? blind mindless forces?
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Also, the problem seems to be that you see hurting other people as evil - which it is - but rejecting God as not evil. It is evil to reject the one who has given you everything, the health, mind, body, world, family, existence that you take for granted ... who constantly blesses you.
From your perspective you may not see that, but it is very evil.
Hell may not be a palatable idea, but the point is God is the most merciful and just, we trust that .. relegating the judgement to a higher court.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
AsalaamuAlaykum, brother InshaAllah add this video to the campaign.
"What do you LOVE about ISLAM?" Campaign for ALL Muslim's!
spiritlite 2 years ago
It simply doesn't make any sense. Muslims also claim that Allah loves his creation more than a mother could ever love her child. Yet, as I point out again, the Qur'an states very clearly that if you do not accept Islam - you will suffer an unbearable fate. So - I beg the question : Would a mother torture her child for hours on end - or even for as long as she lived? Islam makes no sense. Period. And the simple truth is Allah does not sound merciful. He sounds like a psychopath.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
The Quran speaks to both mind and soul, and you must use both, with humility, to find the truth. And God guides those who sincerely want truth.
Look around you, look at your own body that you take for granted... Evolution or not, how can you possibly believe that everything is ultimately just a blind accident? Look at your beginnings, a tiny cell that became you. Mindless accident?
Is your only purpose is to pass genes and die?
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Muslims claim Allah is most merciful, in fact they claim he is the most merciful and caring - yet the Qur'an teaches very clearly, those who reject Islam will suffer in the hell fire for all eternity. How can Allah be most merciful and loving, when he is stating here that you will be tortured for the rest of time if you don't accept HIS religion, which by the way, is extremely flawed....?
He either is merciful - or he isn't. This is an example of how contradictory Islam actually is.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
There has to be punishment. Otherwise, do you expect someone like Hitler to just "check out"?
That hadith about God more merciful than a mother specifically clarifies that point, that only someone who completely deserved it would end up in hell, and that God is all knowing, forgiving and all just, so nobody will be dealt with unjustly. God does not wrong the people, they wrong themselves.
This hell business is an emotional argument in the end, an excuse.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
There has to be punishment. Otherwise, do you expect someone like Hitler to just "check out"?
That hadith about God more merciful than a mother specifically clarifies that point, that only someone who completely deserved it would end up in hell, and that God is all knowing, forgiving and all just, so nobody will be dealt with unjustly. God does not wrong the people, they wrong themselves.
I understand people don't like the concept of hell, but it is an emotional argument
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Logic? Wow, you are seriously uneducated and deluded. All I can offer is that you go away and study different forms of thought - away from Islam. Study every aspect of Philosophy, even brake down your own religion - and if your heart is true, you will discover that Islam is quite laughable - and the Qur'an is a beings work, not a supreme being.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
Well Deanboy, I did this. I think know about many religions more than most of their own followers. Of all religions, Islam wins hands down. I have seen countless people who went through the same analysis of religion, and practically all found Islam to be the truth - like the man in the video.
And really the whole idea of atheism is really strange. How can you believe that the wonder around you, and your own mind, is the product of mindless blind pointless accidents? That is absurd.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Another mentally ill Muslim.
Deanboy2007 2 years ago
if actually you listen to him to the end, and put aside your intense loathing for religion and Islam, he is a very logical man.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Either one is non-Muslim or Muslim.
I like this Muslim because he is not an apologist. Many of todays Muslims are, unfortunately, apologists.
InsusceptibleMuslim 2 years ago
AsalaamuAlaykum, Alhamdulillah thanks for the video , MASHALLAH.
May ALLAH guide us All , Ameen.
May ALLAH reward you, Ameen.
JAZAKALLAH KHAIR.
spiritlite 2 years ago
Alhamdulillah
DritaIslamit 2 years ago
He looked at the different religions, to see which one he thought was real, but he did not considder that none of them were real.
kellerr13 2 years ago
actually he did if you listen to his whole story elsewhere, but found atheism quite absurd - that our point in life is just to make babies and die
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
What if that IS the point to life? For that matter, maybe there is no point to it at all. Just because you or him or anybody else believes something, does not make it true. Just because you are unable to accept the fact that there are many questions we do not have the answers to does not mean you should just accept whatever other answer was provided. After all, it can still be wrong.
All I'm saying is those that accept islam, do so without considdering it to be wrong also.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Keller, of course there is a purpose. It is very silly to say all this just happened, and you will die pointlessly
Most those that accept Islam did consider multiple beliefs, and Islam made the most sense, so they accepted it.
One God, who blessed you with all you have and take for granted, and tests you in life.
Read the Quran friend,
peace
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Just because you can't wrap your little brain around the idea that things just happen for no purpose, does not mean some crazy man 1400 years agao was telling the truth.
People lie every single day. If Muhammed lied about gabriel talking to him, then all of Islam is a lie.
kellerr13 2 years ago
Islam has the answer to every question.
What do you wanna know?
If you wanna discuss if islam is real the truth or not you go to go to the Quran.
You should discuss the Quran.
And nothing else.
AfghDude 2 years ago
Don't make the mistake of thinking I know nothing about Islam. I have studied it for 15 years.
kellerr13 2 years ago
wohooo didnt laugh that hard today xd
u r funny
can you be serious now?
AfghDude 2 years ago
Any honest person would conclude that the life of the Prophet Muhammad, and the revelation he brought forth is not one of a liar. He clearly believed in what he preached.
And what you said is very silly, almost like saying just because it is absurd and against every fibre of your being, doesn't mean you shouldn't accept it.
How can you believe you have no purpose? That there is not account? That you just make babies and die!
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Crazy people believe in what they preach as well, but that does not make it real.
And it's not against every fiber of my being, nor is it obsurd. Why should I simply accept a person (Muhammed) at their word. He was a master at the spoken word there is no doubt, and there are a lot of people like that. Hitler, Neopoleon, Ceasar, Alexander, Obama, etc. etc.
kellerr13 2 years ago
The Quran claims to be the word of God. And every honest test you place on it, you find it passes.
It IS against human nature to believe that we are an accident. And it is irrational. You can only accept it if you willfully blinded yourself. Truth is clear.
IslamicGoldenAge 2 years ago
Muhammed Claimed it to be the word of god. I say he lied, he made it up as a way to seize power.
It is irrational to assume it is not an accident. Truth is not clear.
kellerr13 2 years ago