Reply To JoeBot About Revolution

[Robin444C]

sup bud wanna give jenny craig a call fat fuck

[luvu2luvme]

did you know you have flouride in your water?why? because it makes the population submisive,read,watch news reels old newspapers,its all there for you to see,you argue points that you know very little about,you go on living in your own lttle world.

[luvu2luvme]

Democracy is a form of government in which the supreme power is held completely by the people under a free electoral system.

[luvu2luvme]

A constitutional republic is a state where the head of state and other officials are elected as representatives of the people, and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government's power over citizens. In a constitutional republic, executive, legislative, and judicial powers are separated into distinct branches and the will of the MAJORITY of the population is tempered by protections for individual rights so that no individual or group has absolute power.

[That80sGuy1972]

People rant and rave in the fundamentalist ideal of gun control being a good thing. What these FUNDIES (damn fools) forget is that places where carrying a concealed firearm DROPS violent crime... and it is proven. Journalists who interview prison inmates have even documented that criminals are PRO-GUN CONTROL. Why? Gun control won't disarm them, it disarms the law-abiders and makes them easy prey for thugs. Criminals don't care about laws... their victims do.

[noacole]

Wear a gun in your mouth.

[carloscachay]

Insult Fail

XD

[Goathead82]

Americans can be so Ignorant! All your freedoms aren't American. You didn't invent the light bulb! You didn't invent TV! You didn't invent the internet! You're fucking ignorant though!

Habeus Corpus was invented in England at a time when it was an absolute monarchy. So was the jury system. The USA would be like Argentina but for England. Fact!

NFI!

[XDarkMoleX]

You cant jugde people becouse there american thats stupidity beyond belief im american

[Rahab111222]

Right on

[danohrly]

The UK does suck balls

[That80sGuy1972]

Excellent.

I could rant and rave about some of the things you said but I don't want to preach to the choir.

I will refer to what Jefferson said about compromise in this issue. He said that those willing to give up their liberties for their own safety and security have no right to them.

As for your point of view on this, I can only say AMEN!

[ogapadoga]

Only Americans see cameras as a kind of threat.

Police are scared of journalist's cameras, and civilians are afraid of government's cameras.

[shinlupus]

***Only Americans see cameras as a kind of threat.***

Americans like to keep power in the people not in the leadership, any leadership, for very long. Police don't like being filmed because united offended citizens can usurps their perceived authority, American's citizens don't like government filming them because it usurps citizen authority. Where the whip is raised to the master, an attitude adjustment in the servant is needed... *shrug*

[ogapadoga]

Do you support CCTVs?

[shinlupus]

For who? Too protect your personal property? Sure.

For a government to constantly monitor, manipulate and control its population? No.

[ogapadoga]

CCTVs in public places.

I would support police using CCTVs in public areas where crime is often happening like alleyways, clubs, childcare centres etc. But definitely not pointing at someone's home.

I have no problem with CCTVs in public "invading my privacy" because i dont do anything private in public anyway. But that's just me.

[shinlupus]

"Crime" is the easy excuse, great for terrorists, no one would argue saving innocents from harm. What about when "crime" was being Jewish or being black, drinking from a white-only drinking fountain, still you'd be supportive? What happens when "crime" has nothing to do with morality? Public places do not belong to the government, at least here.

[shinlupus]

So I would say no, I do not support the concept in general, it depends on how and why the info learned is used. I am supportive where it used to keep people from violent or terroristic harm. I don't want to see a presidential candidate shop lifting back when he when he was 5. Certain rights to privacy out weigh the occasional terrorist caught in my book.

[shinlupus]

If we have to have one with the other, then I am not supportive, violating civil liberties for all is not acceptable not even to stop the rare terror act with Closed Circuit TV. Lastly FYI: A 2008 Report by UK Police Chiefs concluded that only 3% of crimes were solved by CCTV. That seems a hell of a bad trade off you are willing to make.

[ogapadoga]

CCTVs don't bother me much actually... unless i'm a target of government forces...which is unlikely.

But i do have to agree with you that CCTVs doesn't lower crime rate or solve a significant amount of crime.

[doucher337]

Regulated capitalism is an oxymoron. Capitalism either is or isn't, and in this nation (or any other I can summon to mind, for that matter), it's not.

[TheJolly8Baller]

I see no problem with my country's stance on keeping guns out of the equation. It doesn't eliminate violent crime but it does eliminate how a fucker wants to take me out. Given the chances without guns, it would be a fist fight: something either of us will walk away from.

We're not obedient to our government as you describe. It's that if we expect peace then we have to live by it. If we're violent then so will the means to control us be as well.

[TheJolly8Baller]

Further more, when it comes to world history, America has the equivalent of about five minutes worth. Since your War of Independence I don't think any American has dealt with institutionalised paranoia as a tool to fear being "taken over". It will never happen.

Time to let the fear go.

[shinlupus]

***It's that if we expect peace then we have to live by it.***

Some in your country felt that way about Germany and Hitler, but aren't you pleased today that others in your country didn't?

[TheJolly8Baller]

A history lesson as simple as that is it? Many were warned about Hitler long before he started invading.

The difference between armed soldiers and armed citizens in a democratic country is the level of control in the trigger fingers.

You live in a country where violence, it is always assumed, solves problems when it obviously solves nothing otherwise the problems would cease to exist with a pull of the trigger.

[shinlupus]

***It doesn't eliminate violent crime but it does eliminate how a fucker wants to take me out.***

Only if following the rules If a few don't follow the rules the only thing eliminated is you trying to avoid some "fucker" taking you out.

[TheJolly8Baller]

The whole point then in not arming citizens in the first place.

[simonodell]

In reality there are millions of 'lambs' for each 'wolf'.

[JaktheAtheist]

terrible terrible analogy.

[joebot1]

No worries, I took the vid in the spirit it was meant man!!!.

Peace.

[joebot1]

Well see, your proving my point. They are conforming to the codified law system man!.

Majority rule would simply mean that, majority rule!.

I think this is a semantical disagreement dude.

The rest of the video,I COMPLETELY agree!...apart from the part where you say we are obedient to our government...to us it seems that you guys are that way, but in different ways.

I think this shit just manifests it self in different ways man.

Murder rates are much lower too lol

[shinlupus]

***Murder rates are much lower too lol***

Haven't they always been among enslave populations? Take away testicles and the birth rate will fall too, what would be your point?

[shinlupus]

Freedom allows wrong choice, the population holding each man accountable for his actions. Slavery strives more to remove "wrong" choice: It is far easier to exploit, control and manipulate a people being dependent only on who is in power deciding "wrong" for the population.

[nckrver]

I know gun control is a slippery slope, but I don't think a new age type revolution would even require them. We legitimize the government. If things got really bad people would get up off their asses and demand things. Someone has to drive the tank over the protesting masses, and I doubt we would even need to throw rocks at them to get them to stop.

[OnyxMage]

Gun control is useless because somebody that wants to commit a gun crime really isn't going to be too concerned whether guns are prohibited or not. Plenty of shady places in the UK where you could obtain a firearm at a cheap price.

Having said that, if guns were made legal in the UK, I doubt that I'd be the first in the queue to get one.

[nckrver]

Surely decline in the ready-made availability of them helps though. If an easy walmart pistol isn't within reach it might just deter some crime. Anyone with premeditated motive to the point of searching for one in a "shady place" probably can't be deterred in the first place. I'd imagine it curbs suicide rates as well.

[OnyxMage]

Yeah, the suicide issue is certainly a valid point. Ultimately, a perfect society (if such a thing could possibly exist) wouldn't require guns at all, but our society is far from perfect. There is, sadly a lot of under the counter deals that go about; I know this because a guy I knew (who isn't known for his mental stability, I dare say) was thinking on obtaining an illegal firearm and if he hadn't have changed his mind at the time, he'd probably be obtaining one now.

[OnyxMage]

It's more easy to get a gun here in the UK than people anticipate.

[VonHelton]

Correct!

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