The curtain is open during that sequence. The curtains can only move at a given speed, and this does not change. What changes is the time between the front curtain starting to move, and the rear curtain starting to move. So, for a given set speed of the curtains, the shortest exposure times look as though the curtains dont even open. What is actually happening is the rear curtain starts moving so quickly after the first, the gap between them is tiny, and hence a short shutter speed.
Can someone explain why the camera has to open the aperture up and drop the mirror inbetween shots in burst mode? shouldn't you just be able to open/close the shutter repeatedly?
@aznpride481 because when the aperture closes to take a photo the amount of light through the lens is dropped alot, so you wouldn't be able to see very well through the viewfinder, set camera to f11 or something and press the DOF preview button on your camera to see how dark viewfinder is.
@aznpride481 Because you couldn't be able to look through the viewfinder while shooting...the aperture must be reseted in order to get full luminosity through the finder. this also allows the camera to constantly adjust the focus and exposure....
@aznpride481 Because you couldn't be able to look through the viewfinder while shooting...the aperture must be reseted in order to get full luminosity through the finder. this also allows the camera to constantly adjust the focus and exposure. Phase detection sensors and mettering only works properly with a fully opened lens.
@aznpride481 Because you couldn't be able to look through the viewfinder while shooting...the aperture must be reseted in order to get full luminosity through the finder. this also allows the camera to constantly adjust the focus and exposure. Phase detection sensors and mettering only work properly with a fully opened lens.
The reason you can't see the sensor is because the shutter speed is set to 4000 (possibly faster [if you don't know what I mean by 4000 then GTFO]) The gap in-between the curtains is too small to see, even when it's in slo-mo. Thus, it is impossible to see the sensor unless you slowed it down EVEN MORE. I did not however, know that the aperture opened and closed like that when you took a picture.
actually you can see the sensor ex(37, 53) but there are some motion blur even at that speed, the video was recorded at 5000 fps and the shutter was 1/4000
Yup. You see how on the left, the aperture blades squeeze in to make a small diaphragm? That particular diaphragm size is considered F16, which is really small and doesn't let in a lot of light.
@whispeeeer No, there is no "lightsensible paper". The sensor is between the first and second shutter curtain. It's a tiny slit that sweeps across the sensor plane.
You have to download the video and slow it down in your player, 5 or 6 times, to be able to see the sensor behind the curtains.
In this way, you can see the narrow space between the two curtains - while the second one is withdrawing and the first one deploying - and the sensor behind.
If I've ever felt genuine love and affection for an inanimate object, the Nikon D3 is it. The camera thinks faster than you do, so you never have to wait for it.
I know this happens at extremely superhigh speeds, but as seen from the video it can be improved: The diaphragm closes later than the mirror and there are some "wait" times. Maybe in the future we could see something like 50fps.
It could be nice if there was a special mode to shoot only with the courtain, keeping the mirror raised and the diaphragm closed while shooting, you couldn't see anything, no AF and the exposure would be kept the same but it would be good for various special situations.
but consider also the time taht is needed to read out the cmos matrix, also you can not open the shutter when the diafragm still moves or shakes. so with this system i doubt we see more then 15 fps. it will rather work in the way that the mirror stays up and the lens closed. so just the shutter works
Yes timing on a few things could be improved, but also keep in mind it has to be compatible with rather old lenses so there will be a limit in how fast the diaphragm can open and close. It really needs to open in between for metering to work. The mirror also has to come down for the AF to work. If you look close the mirror vibrates after it comes down. It needs time to settle. Canon learned the hard way when they pushed the timing and the AF on the 1D MIII became inconsistent.
It actually would be an interesting side by side. If would show that the 5D needs about twice the time for the mirror to move up and down. Don't get me wrong, the 5D is a great camera, but when it comes to performance it's a slug.
I shot some stage performances with the 5DII and the D3 parallel. Both delivered great quality photos, but the 5D can't keep up with the action. But then it also only costs half of the D3.
Does anyone else think on the left it looks like a woman's hand pulling down the second curtain?
davidschillervideos 3 weeks ago
And to think this happens 11 times a second. Simply amazing what humans are able to achieve.
150cameron 3 weeks ago
The curtain is open during that sequence. The curtains can only move at a given speed, and this does not change. What changes is the time between the front curtain starting to move, and the rear curtain starting to move. So, for a given set speed of the curtains, the shortest exposure times look as though the curtains dont even open. What is actually happening is the rear curtain starts moving so quickly after the first, the gap between them is tiny, and hence a short shutter speed.
Woodzifferus 1 month ago
at what point does the curtain actually open?
Nizzemanden 1 month ago
Can someone explain why the camera has to open the aperture up and drop the mirror inbetween shots in burst mode? shouldn't you just be able to open/close the shutter repeatedly?
aznpride481 6 months ago
@aznpride481 because when the aperture closes to take a photo the amount of light through the lens is dropped alot, so you wouldn't be able to see very well through the viewfinder, set camera to f11 or something and press the DOF preview button on your camera to see how dark viewfinder is.
ukguy 6 months ago
@aznpride481
i know exactly what you mean
in burst mode i think the camera meters the light for every shot in order to adjust exposure, also for the auto focus to work
but i dont know if the autofocus is that fast to measure the difference in position for every 1/10 of a second for a moving subject .
aretalha 5 months ago
@aznpride481 Because you couldn't be able to look through the viewfinder while shooting...the aperture must be reseted in order to get full luminosity through the finder. this also allows the camera to constantly adjust the focus and exposure....
manolocabezadehuevo9 3 months ago
@aznpride481 Because you couldn't be able to look through the viewfinder while shooting...the aperture must be reseted in order to get full luminosity through the finder. this also allows the camera to constantly adjust the focus and exposure. Phase detection sensors and mettering only works properly with a fully opened lens.
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@aznpride481 Because you couldn't be able to look through the viewfinder while shooting...the aperture must be reseted in order to get full luminosity through the finder. this also allows the camera to constantly adjust the focus and exposure. Phase detection sensors and mettering only work properly with a fully opened lens.
manolocabezadehuevo9 3 months ago
The reason you can't see the sensor is because the shutter speed is set to 4000 (possibly faster [if you don't know what I mean by 4000 then GTFO]) The gap in-between the curtains is too small to see, even when it's in slo-mo. Thus, it is impossible to see the sensor unless you slowed it down EVEN MORE. I did not however, know that the aperture opened and closed like that when you took a picture.
HedgehogStudios1 6 months ago
@HedgehogStudios1
actually you can see the sensor ex(37, 53) but there are some motion blur even at that speed, the video was recorded at 5000 fps and the shutter was 1/4000
aretalha 5 months ago
WOW ! all of this in 0.09 seconds ? awesome ....
detestosu 7 months ago 2
Oh, my, I'm getting a bit warm...
shmibbkid 7 months ago
Even if it really was a film based SLR, you wouldn't see the film frame, because the thin strip moving down is...to thin to actually see it.
Better make a vid with slower shutter speed, so it's more visible, making the space wider.
bsrules 7 months ago
Could someone please expain the f16 to me? its fstop, isnt it? i just dont know what it is :/ aperture? :S
graffitiskater111 7 months ago
@graffitiskater111
Yup. You see how on the left, the aperture blades squeeze in to make a small diaphragm? That particular diaphragm size is considered F16, which is really small and doesn't let in a lot of light.
123IOWNALL321 7 months ago
It looks so messy lol
ajc116 8 months ago 4
lot of stuff to hppend within 1/4000 of a second
0KJo 9 months ago
Boingongongooooing...
Boingongongooooing...
Boingongongooooing...
So that's where shutter blur comes from :p
SmalltimR 9 months ago
Oh damn... this is beautiful *.*
joshua25071994 10 months ago
cute :)
djspinacz 10 months ago
this is art *-*
brunnotozzo 10 months ago
Needs the music from Inception...which, coincidentally...
blickblocks 11 months ago
didn't know the curtain and blades wobbled so much.
jamescracksthesky 11 months ago 2
@danmartin6031 dude, the D3 sensor is digital cmos platform.
the one on the video is just lightsensible paper which is used in film cameras...
whispeeeer 11 months ago
@whispeeeer No, there is no "lightsensible paper". The sensor is between the first and second shutter curtain. It's a tiny slit that sweeps across the sensor plane.
danmartin6031 11 months ago
@danmartin6031 Dude! Thats a film SLR!
whispeeeer 11 months ago
@whispeeeer Dude! You're wrong, dude. Dude! Dude! Dude!
danmartin6031 11 months ago
Shoudl've used a longer shutter speed so viewers could actually see the difference between first and second curtain. But cool vid otherwise.
vesaaa 11 months ago
The music makes this video. Well done.
RaboKarabek 11 months ago
that's a film camera.
gnarlycharlie4u 11 months ago
no wonder they have shutter life, that looks violent
AQHackAQ 11 months ago 8
@AQHackAQ so much wobble
ttttiiiieeeessss 1 week ago
You have to download the video and slow it down in your player, 5 or 6 times, to be able to see the sensor behind the curtains.
In this way, you can see the narrow space between the two curtains - while the second one is withdrawing and the first one deploying - and the sensor behind.
cantododudu 11 months ago
What's the name of this song, please?
zuperbeef 11 months ago
Great video. Even some Canon fanboys came to enjoy the show.
HappyBirthdayBitches 1 year ago
too quick-_-cant see the cmos
samcth54 1 year ago
There is no way that this is D3, since the sensor is not even there. That was an analogue body :O. :)
whispeeeer 1 year ago
@whispeeeer it's there, it's just exposing a tiny slit as the shutter moves across the sensor plane.
danmartin6031 11 months ago
your music pisses me off
seethebright 1 year ago
@seethebright You're face pisses me off.
DTxOctavariumx 1 year ago 6
WOW amazing insight into the shutter curtain (but the music sucks dude haha)
tcsurvivor03 1 year ago
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dtmphoto 1 year ago
i like this music & the d3
nikond200semi 1 year ago
Yann Tiersen ftw! (Y)
OlliTheAwesomeone 1 year ago
i notice that the aperture size during exposure is always different, by a miniscule amount.
HelloNewYorkCity 1 year ago
@HelloNewYorkCity No, it's always the same by a minuscule amount.
Ok, sorry; I had to.. :P
SpeedFreakNO 1 year ago
que arrecho
jotxue 1 year ago
who is the singer on this? Excelent I almost wept when I see this :)
nexolavant 1 year ago
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quickshooter100 2 years ago 7
@quickshooter100 jezz me to, but i jizz over my d 300s ;-)
nikond200semi 1 year ago
is it the older 1.4 or the newer
jahuuja007 2 years ago
@jahuuja007 Older. it is D lens, the new is G lens
Hispanico1989 1 year ago
If I've ever felt genuine love and affection for an inanimate object, the Nikon D3 is it. The camera thinks faster than you do, so you never have to wait for it.
Go. Buy. One. Now!
GSYBE631 2 years ago
Yeah, once I've saved up 4 grand :P
robbybobby20009 2 years ago
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GSYBE631 2 years ago
that's actually quite a cool video
thatsamiam 2 years ago
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WYKOP KURWA
lolaska 2 years ago
I know this happens at extremely superhigh speeds, but as seen from the video it can be improved: The diaphragm closes later than the mirror and there are some "wait" times. Maybe in the future we could see something like 50fps.
It could be nice if there was a special mode to shoot only with the courtain, keeping the mirror raised and the diaphragm closed while shooting, you couldn't see anything, no AF and the exposure would be kept the same but it would be good for various special situations.
d4n131M3j14 2 years ago
but consider also the time taht is needed to read out the cmos matrix, also you can not open the shutter when the diafragm still moves or shakes. so with this system i doubt we see more then 15 fps. it will rather work in the way that the mirror stays up and the lens closed. so just the shutter works
valwit 2 years ago
@d4n131M3j14
Yes timing on a few things could be improved, but also keep in mind it has to be compatible with rather old lenses so there will be a limit in how fast the diaphragm can open and close. It really needs to open in between for metering to work. The mirror also has to come down for the AF to work. If you look close the mirror vibrates after it comes down. It needs time to settle. Canon learned the hard way when they pushed the timing and the AF on the 1D MIII became inconsistent.
videodaddy99 2 years ago
Mój szwagier zrobił kiedys szatkownice z aparatu
wieprz 2 years ago 3
It's so beautiful...
SeanThaBomb 2 years ago
Would be cool to see a Side-by-Side comparison with that and the Canon 5d and a 50mm 1.2L lens.
SurvivalReview 2 years ago
@SurvivalReview
It actually would be an interesting side by side. If would show that the 5D needs about twice the time for the mirror to move up and down. Don't get me wrong, the 5D is a great camera, but when it comes to performance it's a slug.
I shot some stage performances with the 5DII and the D3 parallel. Both delivered great quality photos, but the 5D can't keep up with the action. But then it also only costs half of the D3.
videodaddy99 2 years ago
awesome video. thanks.
xenonsupra 2 years ago
strangely compelling
colonelclaw 2 years ago
shouldnt the diafragm be closed to F11 before the shutter curtain opens?
estudio100rafa 2 years ago
It is...
JediNg135 2 years ago
So, you used Piaf to Edith this video ?
:o)
Alexvideoclip 2 years ago 119
lol... thanks for the laugh!
imtothen 2 years ago
@Alexvideoclip I don't see that Vieable
dahypero 11 months ago
@Alexvideoclip this is by far the greatest comment on youtube.
DelzieC 10 months ago
@Alexvideoclip : In fact it's made by Rina Ketty in 1938.
blouppytux 8 months ago
@Alexvideoclip
That's not Piaf but good pun.
Carnosaurrr 1 month ago
Beautiful !!!
Mr.lachland3,Thank you,very much !
signobit 2 years ago 20