A New Kind of Christian- Brian McLaren (1 of 3)

[endlesswonder22]

I'm just wondering: to the people who are so quick to shout, "Heretic!" -- do you actually ever read or listen to what the man has to say? Do you ever listen to anyone else's views or ideas? Or are you only parroting what you heard someone else say? Or are you so assured of your own views (or those you've been systematically told and therefore accepted) that you won't even consider listening to anyone else?

[endlesswonder22]

It's okay, folks. Martin Luther was considered a heretic at the time too.

"Yesterday's heresy is tomorrow's dogma." -Madeleine L'Engle

[originaltbyrd]

this man is teaching heresy.

[theemurf]

Expert professor in cult apologetics refutes new age 'Christian' guru Brian McLaren with scripture:

watch?v=HLob34NUBF0

McLaren is no different from the post-Crowley counter culture movement of the 1960's. The 1960's were more inspired by hard core satanists (of which Crowley is king) than by peace. Timothy Leary for 1 said he believed he was carrying on the work started by Aleister Crowley. Yet McLaren's theology is eerily close to the same new age doctrines of a movement, spawned by Satan.

[stop08it]

I know there were many false prophets in Paul's day but I wonder if there has been such widespread apostasy as what we are seeing in the church today? I want to get out of here...seeing "pastors" willingly leading people astray like this makes me angry....this world is such a mess but then i know that there are so so many that were as lost and in a dark place like I was and are looking for an answer...it's only because of God's mercy we are not already in the thousand year reign of christ today.

[theNCGstudios]

Brian is doing a good job, but unfortunately, I don't think most are really interested in listening.

[theemurf]

@theNCGstudios If the bible is true, McLaren is not doing a good job, as he goes against the bible with his twisted doctrine. However, if he's actually trying to move people away from the bible deliberately by twisting scripture, then remember, the bible states, no truth is of the lie.

Have a look at this guy, professor of cult apologetics Dr. Ron Rhodes, he refutes McLaren with scripture; watch?v=HLob34NUBF0

I really hope you find this helpful, God bless...

[YouTubricant]

@theNCGstudios It's the sad, sad truth.

[joeforHistruth]

A New Kind of Christian?.....Same old heretics.

[joeforHistruth]

@dliberty1988 Don't want to do that, just expose their damning lies.

[FORMETOKNOWONLY]

So we have people espousing a Christless and Bibleless form of Christianity. Incredible.

[Strefanasha]

the map for everything we need is in the Bible. the new kind of christian these emergnt types want is someone who does not believe anything

[daveme7]

I guess he is some what right except in the military a mad is defined as a graphical represaentation of the earth's surface as seen from above.Of course on Google Earth I can show you where I got woundedthe first time in Mosul and can show right about the place I was nearly killed in Talafar. Preach the word of God as if that would be the last thing you would ever do-imagine if we started reaching like that!

[uschopper2000]

Sin is sin. Period. You speak the truth in love. Nowhere in scripture do I see that sin is acceptable. The answer is the same now as it was then. Side note, there is a litaral hell. Jesus said much about it.

[uschopper2000]

Sin is sin. Period. You speak the truth in love. Nowhere in scripture do I see that sin is acceptable. The answer is the same now as it was then. Side note, there is a litaral hell. Jesus said much about it.

[SwordofManticorE]

The name of this video is wrong. During the times of Acts to 500 ad Universalism was the doctrine until Rome condemed it and killed anyone who believed that God will save all His creation. To call this " A new kind of Christian" only confirms to those who believe in the doctrin of death that universalism is a cult, when in reality it is the opposite.

[MrCairokid]

Beware of false prophets, like Brian McLaren. What is wrong with the old Christianity? We still need repentance from sin, through the blood and the cross of Christ alone.

[Lrothtube]

Romans 16:17-18 (New International Version) 17I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.

[Lrothtube]

This guy is off his heresy rocker, we have been warned of this, read II Timothy 4:3 , that is what the real God says. This guy is coming up with fables. This is what the emergent church does, it tries to reinvent God and the Scriptures in order not to offend anyone with the message of Sin, Hell, Repentance and the Attoning Blood of Christ. If we are not sinners, and God doesnt hate sin, then why did Jesus have to die for us. Study the Emergent Church, you will find this man there. It is lies

[Boosteroid]

This poor man is extremely deluded. We should pray for him.

[john146only]

I have read about you in Jude and 2 Peter....

[allison098]

Amen ambassadorinchainz

[MrMill2010]

the law keepers used to quote the laws...........so i say he desires mercy not sacrifice

[stevebellspopology]

Critics, he's talking about cultural understanding and relevance - he's not attempting to preach the gospel here, which is why he 'has no bible for any of this bull...'. The Bible doesn't teach much about culture and society in the 21st century. Take this for what it is - a lecture on understanding and engaging our world in order that we might share the message of Jesus. As I understand it, this is not meant to be a gospel message in itself.

[hoffabrando]

This bloke is a wolf; he uses human philosophy, to get you to except a lie,

His resigning is full of holes, why because all who claim to be Christians are not all Christens, there are sheeps and goats, wheat and tears till, Jesus comes, and the harvest is the end of this world, so dont let this wolf; deceive you, Col:2:8: Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

[gjsterp]

Hoffabrando:

People who claim to know God's plan for them always amaze me.

To understand God's word is one thing, but to know God's plan for them is another.

The best one can do is 'hope' to know God's plan concerning an individual soul.

Anything else is to claim to know God's mind.

Who can do this, honestly?

You?

Seems a little egotistical to me.

[hoffabrando]

gjsterp

You can kill the messenger and thats fine but you cant kills the message, Psalms:53:1: The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

Proverb:1:7: The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

[gjsterp]

The Bible as a whole holds the best damning evidence against the Christian Religion.

Knowledge was first obtained by those brave souls who questioned church dogma, at the peril of their lives.

We should thank these 'freedom' fighters.

If the church had its way we all would be living in the 'Dark Ages.'

They don't call the time after that the Enlightenment for nothing.

[hoffabrando]

I agree, with some of your statement, an argent church, that usurp the political systems of the earth, and informed their religious beliefs, but you call them Christians, I dont,

A Christian is a follower of Christ, they are taught to love their enemies true Christians died at their hands also. You will know them by their fruits

[gjsterp]

@hoffabrando you wrote:

"You will know them by their fruits"

Like no one but Christians produce 'good fruits."???

How egotistical is THAT?

How elitist is THAT?

You think one needs 'Christ' to do good works, be honest, be compassionate?

THINK AGAIN !

Christ is not needed for any of these things.

Your Jesus also said something about humility.

Can you find any in that head of yours?

[hoffabrando]

Proverb:23:7: For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he:

I was talking about christians kiling christians,

Killing people in the name of god,

What you think good or evil is your opinion and you have the right to it,

[gjsterp]

hoffabrando:

Christians were made to believe that they would go directly to Heaven if they died in a 'Holy War" - The Crusades.

If people believe in absurdities they are more likely to commit atrocities.

Loving ones' enemies does not seem to be one of Christians favorite sayings of Jesus.

The idea of an afterlife cheapens this life.

One is more likely to hang on to their last and only dollar.

Life should get the same consideration.

[hoffabrando]

Dont be fooled by the name Christian, the political religious system that you are talking about has put to death millions of bible believing Christians, eg inquisitions lasted for centuries, and wars,

Joh:18:36: Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. Ro:14:17: For the kingdom of God is righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

[martlut]

@hoffabrando the political religious system and just what is this never herd of it ... Hoffy must be a member of one of those crazy grops that make up conspirecy theorys

[hoffabrando]

martlut

Yes you know nut case, YOUR IN IT,

Ex:20:4: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above

Ex:20:13: Thou shalt not kill.

Ga:6:7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

[martlut]

@hoffabrando Ex:20:4: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above NOW TURN two pages to Exodus 25:18 KJV And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat and put on the holiest place in all of Israel..

I thought you said , God said not to make any Statues

[hoffabrando]

MARTLUT

1Co:15:56: The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

1Jo:3:4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Jas:2:10: For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Ac:18:13: Saying, This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the law.

[martlut]

@hoffabrando

Numbers 21:8 God commands Moses to make the bronze serpent which we learn is a symbol of Jesus Christ (John 3:14). And when the children of Israel Looked at it they were healed.. How about that silly God violating his own Commandments .

[hoffabrando]

MARTLUT

1Co:15:56: The sting of death IS SIN and the STRENGTH OF SIN IS THE LAW.

1Jo:3:4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.

Jas:2:10: For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet OFFEND IN ONE POINT, he is GUILTY OF ALL.

Jas:2:11: For he that said, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, said also, DO NOT KILL. Now if thou commit NO ADULTERY, yet if THOU KILL, thou art become a TRANSGRESSOR OF THE LAW.

Catholic Inquisitions

[martlut]

@hoffabrando When it came to Solomon and decorating the Temple with all those statues..Numbers 8:4, 1 Kings 6:18 Images are carved. Just in the Temple Vail alone their were scores of Images .. 1 Kings 7:25,29 Images of lions and bulls are carved to support the base of the temple

There were images of the cherubim angels in the temple (1 Kings 6:23-31) and God blessed the temple (1 Kings 9:3).

[hoffabrando]

MARTLUT

You are putting your ides in to the bible. If you wont to quote the bible good,

But let it speak, I dont need you to try to explain to me, why you transgress the commandments of god, blind Freddy knows, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS FULL OF GRAVEN IMAGES, AND MAKE A TON OF MONEY FROM IT.

[martlut]

@hoffabrando kind of reminds me Of A catholic Chuch following the Command of God and not a barren Protestant church

[hoffabrando]

MARTLUT

THE 4TH

Ex:20:8: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.Ex:20:10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:

The authority of the Church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changedthe Sabbath to Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own authority. — Cannon and Tradition, p.263.

Proverb:30:6: Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

[gjsterp]

"The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers."-- Denis Didero

I have no intention of killing anyone.

I would like them to question honestly WHY they believe what they do.

I have read the Bible, and if the paper was softer I would use it to wipe my...

[hoffabrando]

Yes I agree Communist USSR and Communist China They are just great exemplas,

OF THE HUMAN MIND.

[hhiibbss]

more like off the wall

[landenhar]

HE HAS NO BIBLE FOR ANY OF THIS (BULL)

[daveme7]

Preach the gospel and Mark those who do not carry the doctrine of Christ and have nothing to do with them. The bibvle is timeless and a living document that changes the hearts and minds of men. Do I hate Muslims? Do I hate gays? Nope but that does not mean I do not preach the gospel. I served in Iraq and can say I have met more Arab Muslims who were kind and engaging. Peronally do not blame an Iraqi for fighting us-I would do the same if someone invaded America.

[k4coastie]

listening to this guy puts me into a "tropical depression"

i'm feeling very pro-choice all of a sudden...

[Gen0sphere]

"Off the map" is an understatement.

[helms1966]

No wonder this guy writes book, he is horribly boring! WOW! His writings are so off base. He really needs to stop smoking crack or whatever.

[TheEndtymsnatzal]

HELL BOUND

[franciskneebone]

If I happened to be having lunch with Brian, this week, what one question should I ask him?

(all the fruit cakes on both sides of the street feel free to get fruity here, i won't be offended)

[daveme7]

Too bad I missed this. My question would be why did you lie about fundamentalism and loiberalism as he defines fundamentalism as based on modernism and because of this we must leave modernism to post modernism but yet everything he and most emergents teach can be learned by reading the works of liberal modernists.

[tomfooleryprod]

McLaren says we should treat with respect those we disagree with and try to understand their point of view. Jesus said to love our enemies.

Yeah, Brian McLaren is WAY off!

[moonjp]

cult

[amkaen]

Brian McClaren is aiming to widen the narrow way. He thinks God isn't serious about His Holiness, and that there is an expiration date on His teachings that we received from the Bible. Please don't be fooled by this dangerous man. Read the Bible, learn what Scripture says, and decide for yourself if he is in the center of God's teachings. Remember, even Satan can appear as an angel of light.

[Roguetune]

turn up the volume please

[weeweelegs]

I follow Jesus of the bible,

brian is teaching his own way,

satanic teacher

[ambassadorinchainz]

i agree with you TheChlk we do need to test everything but that does not mean that everything is going to pass the test. And the authority that we use to test with is the bible. The bible says there is a Hell(2Pe2:4,Lk12:5)and it says that Jesus died in our place, took our punishment, washed away our sin, defeated death, and imputed his righteousness to those who believe (2Cor5:21) Mclaren says he does not believe in either of these key doctrines taught in the bible...when tested he fails

[peacemetta]

Why does these two issues become so important in the history of Christianity.

1) Jesus died on the Cross for us

2) Jesus is the Son of God

It beats me.... HOW DOES THESE two things dictate the life of an individual. It makes the Afterlife SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than this life.

That's where the trouble starts and RELIGIOUS WARS are waged in the name of UPHOLDING THIS ONE TRUE RELIGION....

THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCAM, THE BIGGEST HOAX IN HISTORY.

[ambassadorinchainz]

1 Corinthians 15 says the gospel is "of first importance". The bible itself says the Gospel is the main issue so that would be why. And the bible does not over emphasize heaven over earth because that is dualistic and sinful but the world will be restored in the end. however for you to think that this life is more important than ETERNITY is kinda illogical don't ya think

[daveme7]

@ambassadorinchainz I always wander why emergents such as McLatren-why must they lie so much? Of course in the slickest of ways never giving names, but why does McLaren lie about fundamentalism and then speak about how we love God so much but then treat those who claim to loveGod as if we can only believe that which is certain when we as fundamentalists believe that we cannot prove is real?

[Plissken07]

@ambassadorinchainz

I'm sure he believes in a hell. I'm sure he doesn't believe in a fire and brimstone hell.

[TheChlk]

God is movement. Mclaren is merely trying to move with Him. Do not be stagnant. Test everything, keep what is good. Jesus would want you to listen and bring it before God, not to judge because you think you already know. _ Love you.

[maximus4165]

God is movement? huh? What is that supposed to mean?

[karnermm]

everything moves,everything vibrates nothing is at rest.GOD being the all,GOD is the source and IS all movement. that clear anything up? [lol-peace and health]

[weeweelegs]

Brian is a servant of satan, stay well clear.

[Jitpring]

Very true.

[Yarmisius]

Those jewish Hardhead religious leaders nailed jesus becasue he was talking TRUTH.

Brian is talking truth, i like his teaching.

You religious prick. brain washed church scum

start use your brain and study about jesus.

[maximus4165]

Spoken in love, I'm sure.